AND THE WINNERS ARE.... Reviewing the The Best eMTBs of 2024

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Our sixth annual eMTB Shootout and Group Review was certainly one for the books! Once again, our crew had the lucky opportunity to travel to an amazing new trail network - Howler Bike Park in Branson, MO. We compared 14 electric mountain bikes on Howler’s trails to give you the low-down on the best eMTBs on the market. The trust placed in us by our viewers, readers and the bike industry are not taken lightly. Though it adds a fair bit of stress and pressure to an already stressful undertaking, we couldn’t be more thankful.
When we founded Loam Wolf in 2017, we made a pledge to be as honest and trustworthy as possible and that cornerstone remains. Knowing that readers work hard and save money to make large purchases based, in part, on our words weighs heavily on us and we strive to give you the best information possible. We hope that our 2024 eBike group test offers you insight, knowledge, and food for thought as you consider your next eMTB purchase. Whether it be one of the 14 bikes reviewed here, or something else.
Our crew would also like to take a moment to extend a huge thank you to Schwalbe Tires and Fox Racing for returning to sponsor our eMTB Shootout. Their support was greatly appreciated as we took on the heavy load of putting this project together. Thanks to Schwalbe we were able to outfit each and every test bike with a set of Soft compound Magic Mary 2.4 tires in the Super Gravity casing. Fox Racing stepped up and ensured that our riders didn’t just look good on the trail, but also had trustworthy protection from head to toe. We didn’t have a single issue with our shoes, knee pads, kit or helmets. Having gear and product that we can trust and not think about lets us focus just on the task at hand, reviewing bikes! So, thank you to Fox Racing and Schwalbe Tires for helping us with product and means to tow along a camera crew, and feed 8 hungry crew members and transport 14 eBikes across the country. Without their support - and of course the support of our fans and viewers - this would not be possible.
Thank you and let’s get on with the show!
-Drew and TLW Crew
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00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:42 Ari Wire Peak
00:06:13 Canyon Strive:ON
00:11:05 Polygon Collosus
00:16:19 Salsa Notch
00:22:52 Superior EXF
00:28:07 Ari Timp Peak
00:35:10 Cannondale Moterra SL
00:42:30 Giant Trance
00:49:53 Norco Range VLT
00:55:46 Orbea Wild
01:01:28 Pivot Shuttle LT
01:05:58 Pole Sonne
01:11:06 Propain Ekano
01:17:41 Rocky Mountain Instinct
01:25:22 Final Bits and Awards

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@ldeanda Ай бұрын

Thanks! I bought a pivot lt last year thanks to your input appreciate your hard work help me more than my dealer went a size down also and very happy

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

Oh wow, that is so generous and we are so grateful! We're gonna buy some burritos for the crew thanks to you! We're happy to have helped out and glad to hear you enjoy the bike! Drew

@jap7856 Ай бұрын

I need to get one of those "Not A Real Mountain Biker" t-shirts

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

Maybe we need to bring back a limited run!

@douglasalexander4348 27 күн бұрын

@@TheLoamWolf I just stick a disabled sticker on my mates back 😅

@sandywar Ай бұрын

I’m fortune enough to own an Orbea Wild. If l’m not riding it, I’m thinking about riding it.

@graysquirreltreeservice7299 Ай бұрын

❤exactly such a bad ass bike makes my levo feel like a dinosaur

@brendan1 Ай бұрын

Love my Orbea Wild M11! Glad you guys still love it too! Also, it's literally the quietest bike I own.

@thomasbobby7444 Ай бұрын

Best Trail eMTB - Cannondale Moterra SL1 Most likely to recommend(All Rounder)- Ari Timp Peak PRO Best Value eMTB - Canyon Strive:ON CFR Best Racer Pick - Orbea Wild M11 Custom Best Downhill bike - Nocrco range VLT C1 Best Versatilke eTMB - Pivot Shuttle LT Team XTR

@andrewvickers5565 Ай бұрын

Really appreciate the time and effort that you've all put into doing the shootout videos!! How about doing an ultimate shootout by pitching the previous year's winners against each other?! I'd love to see how the winning trek rail (the model i have) stacks up against the latest bikes!!

@robdrew596 Ай бұрын

I watched every minute of this video and in the end got an "everybody gets a trophy" sort of feel. I understand you were able make several brands happy but based on the scores given on each bike along the way, I think you should have chosen a clear winner IMO. Thats said, thanks for putting in the work to test a lot of bikes, I know its not all fun.

@howarja Ай бұрын

I've got the Strive. For the money, unless your professional, it's the best bike I've ridden. I've ridden my friends' Wild Peak, and Orbea. They've ridden my Strive. They wish they bought the strive and saved the money.

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

By selecting the five award winners, we hoped to offer more value to viewers who are looking to make a purchase as each of the bikes selected are quite different. For example, even our own team wouldn't agree, while 2 testers would take the Orbea, two other testers agreed that it was awesome, but they'd rather have the Shuttle LT for very different reasons. We felt that by picking ONE winner, it would do a disservice to riders of different types who may buy that one bike, only to be disappointed because it's very much NOT the best bike for them. Want a lightweight trail machine? - Cannondale. Sharp and fast bike? - Orbea. Ultra-plush downhill brute? - Norco. Solid all rounder with value in mind? - Ari. Premium all rounder? - Pivot. No one of these bikes is the best in absolutely every aspect. All do kick ass, though! Thanks for watching and we hope that helps clarify.

@mikeh9949 Ай бұрын

With how bikes are these days I couldn’t see how they could select a clear winner as each rider has a different style and feel. What I might find awesome you may not, kinda like the Superior, one gave it a 5 and was like it didn’t work for me, while the others were like it was good and rated a 7.25, etc. It was great that we got 4 different views for each bike. Seems like they really liked the Ari for a non-mainstream brand (8+ rating).

@gingerb36 Ай бұрын

It’s good to have all four of you with rider input, makes for a balanced review. Top work guys

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

Thanks very much. Glad you enjoyed it.

@jaredthompson13 Ай бұрын

Nice! I was at Howler during your last day of shooting. Cool to see you guys there in my neck of the woods.

@bradjohnson236 Ай бұрын

I've had numerous high end ebike's. Santa Cruz, Intense, Orbea, Pivot. All the noise in my head disappeared when I got the Wild. Stunning bike...even when just having a slow day. .

@graysquirreltreeservice7299 Ай бұрын

I agree I love mine so fast and turns like nothing I have ridden

@totalglitch 7 күн бұрын

I'm a Santa Cruz fanboy always have been bc of the customer service and warranty. I have an orbea avant and love it. But with all of these companies sales dropping and some going way side I want to make sure I have a company that will be sticking around, our dealer quit selling orbea bc when COVID hit it was impossible to get them in stock. I'm looking at the heckler not the SL and also Ari. But the nikolai Saturn 16 is also on my radar and it is sick but only a 5 year warranty. How close is the heckler to the wild and the Ari? Thabks

@AZMTB Ай бұрын

500 miles on my Wild M10 (with an EXT shock) and I still LOVE THE THING.

@theparkourdude6976 Ай бұрын

Is the motor noise noisy or distracting?

@graysquirreltreeservice7299 Ай бұрын

Rocket 🚀

@tmwei396 Ай бұрын

I was just in Branson last week. Didn't get to ride there but did catch a show. Then proceeded to ride at Eureka Springs, Arkansas, and now in Bentonville for a week of riding.

@freendeed8410 Ай бұрын

Just missed y'all at Howler. Was there the weekend before and came back for a 'Glamping' tent weekend the day after you finished and rolled out....the Underbite Enduro weekend. Great review,...we watch it all. Superb job guys. Glad you enjoyed our local bike park, Howler Bike Park!!

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

Thanks so much for the kind words and bummed we missed ya for a high five! Howler is amazing and we can’t wait to come back.

@MrCrazeDawg Ай бұрын

Have my strive on underdog for couple of months now. My first e-mtb, got it on Sale with biggest battery for just 5k euro. Pretty happy with the bike :D Agree on the brakes part, DB8 are ok brakes untill they are not, hence my shimano xt coming on them from my old acoustic strive.

@sjones6177 Ай бұрын

Great content per usual! Thanks Loam Wolf!

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoy it and thank you so much!

@andrewgreenwood8727 Ай бұрын

Great show guys !!! Very unbiased & neutral like it should be !! Very enjoyable!!! See you next year for another shoot out !!!!!!

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

Thank you very much! Hopefully we are you again before then!

@EMTBAFV Ай бұрын

It would be good to see some more heavier rider's on these shows as alot of us getting back into it say after few years n few lbs extra the suspension is nightmare to get the sag set up!

@Stankbait68 Ай бұрын

You guys were instrumental input into my Yeti 160E purchase. Love the reviews here, and even more stoked you tested in part at Coler before the tornado came through. It's gonna be a long time before things are great here again, but we still have plenty in reach to go ride.

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words, and glad we could be of help. The Yeti is definitely a ripper! Hopefully things recover well around Bentonville, we'll be looking forward to coming back!

@curtisgoodwin8962 Ай бұрын

Great video as usual from this crew! A bit disappointed to not have the SCOR LT Z series here … it’s a shredder!!

@TheAngryHusky Ай бұрын

Very informative. Nice job

@toddhughes6953 Ай бұрын

Didn't know you guys were at Howler. Would have love to come and say hi

@ldeanda Ай бұрын

As always excellent review would have love to see major brands like other years ( Specialiazed trek santa cruz)

@stevesagerson710 Ай бұрын

Great job guys. Appreciate the hard work.

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

Much appreciated!

@SamsBikes Ай бұрын

Amazing work guys!

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

Thanks buddy! Appreciate it.

@BigCountry1125 Ай бұрын

I wish you guys would’ve had the canyon strive CFR with the race motor coming in at 8,199 to see where it held up against the other higher range, priced bikes

@jordanmackay3568 Ай бұрын

Would of won by a mile

@Turd_farmer Ай бұрын

Can we get a Shuttle LT vs 160E comparison? I was set on buying a 160E because I love my SB160 so much but looking at the geometry of the Shuttle LT along with the praise you guys gave it is making me second guess my choice.

@Stockfish1511 Ай бұрын

No Trek rail and turbo levo?

@octodadmtbmartyrichards2862 Ай бұрын

Needed to included Merida 160 e

@VanIsleNeil Ай бұрын

Still loving my YT Decoy MX. Thing is a friggen beast!

@randyellison6652 Ай бұрын

Same, no love for YT!

@stevesmith8991 Ай бұрын

Hi there looking for a bit of advice I'm new to mountain biking 57 and approx 95kg I've narrowed my choice down to 2 bikes the orbea wild h20 and the rise h20 or maybe the 10 if I can find any of them at the right price, thanks

@fernandom6811 Ай бұрын

Great reviews! ❤ can you test the Marin Alpine! Latest model & the runout model! Thanks! 😊👌🏾

@Steveriknows 19 күн бұрын

I went with the Rocky Mountain Instinct Powerplay C70 because I have a dealer and support right here in West Kelowna. Hoping it will be a reliable climbing monster and allow me to ride trails my aging body had passed on before.

@allentufts5185 Ай бұрын

Great review and thanks

@kostak2171 Ай бұрын

Great review guys! Thanks for the hard work! Which bikes would you say were your favorites for making the trails feel poppy and the best for jumping all day?

@mikeriley1475 Ай бұрын

I’m very happy with my cdale trail se. Never see much press on the se, but it is a fun bike to ride on mellower trails.

@Ca11MeBubba Ай бұрын

Bought a Rail 7 Gen 2 last year that came with the Db8 brakes with shimano pads & rotors. Until recently, I'd agree that they were bad. Took way too much force to get adequate braking. Then I bled them and threw on MTX Gold pads with Galfer rotors. After bedding...so. much. grip! And with far less effort on the fingers.

@AC-ww6nf Ай бұрын

My choices are Suprerior Exf on the budget side Norco LT or ARI Timp on the high side.

@ultimatist Ай бұрын

Nice review!

@donaldlemens9673 Ай бұрын

I just bought a Levo comp aluminum for $5600 seams like it would do very well in the budget or most categories for an all rounder? It's a 23-24 model

@graysquirreltreeservice7299 Ай бұрын

Absolutely my daughter just got one for 3600 new

@vashon100 Ай бұрын

seems

@johnh4650 Ай бұрын

Dude... You bought the best $5600 bike out there. Living in Bentonville and its awesome rental options all year and Bikefest options, my buds and I enjoy trying out the latest. The Tubo Levo Comp Alloy STILL ROCKS!

@redgetheedge7212 15 күн бұрын

@@johnh4650 Really good bike, but much better if you kit with better parts than original.

@NATURALBORNSHREDDER Ай бұрын

Best comparison review!. Ari timp peak vs Pivot Shuttle Lt, looks like shuttle is higher so potentially less pedal strikes, which would you guys pick for dh on rough desert tracks? I ride a lot of tech too but also high speed and jumps, both would probably work but which has better support is probably the deciding factor. Or kenevo sl since 145 pounds might be fine but gotta test that one.

@ajandlucy Ай бұрын

Do you guys personally ride full power or light emtbs? You were obviously a fan of the relay. Half of our group have moved to lighter weight bikes. Curious as to what the loam wolf team personal rides are.

@jeanmarc_in_Hudson Ай бұрын

Beautiful document! Thank you guys for making it. 👍 Did you guys swap that shirt?

@gpearce11 Ай бұрын

It's a shame you couldn't get the new Marin Alpine Trail E Bosch. Still a great roundup, of course.

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

Yes sadly they didn’t have one in time as this was filmed before it came out.

@XGames199 Ай бұрын

You guys are definitely the best of the best at doing eMTBs reviews!!! I have a question for my Scottish brother Robert, If you went to the bike park and just wanted to jump anything and everything which bike would you choose...Ari Temp peak, Or the Pivot shuttle, Or the Orbea wild?

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

Hello Mr XGames! I’d choose the Ari as a pure jump/park rig out of all on test. Orbea and Pivot would be tied, with the Orbea being a better “attack bike” and the Pivot a more comfortable and poppy bike.

@XGames199 Ай бұрын

@@TheLoamWolf Cheers mate👍

@deadbirdwalking1159 Ай бұрын

Regarding the SRAM Powertrain system, did you guys do any sort of tuning of the power levels in any of the two modes or run the default tune? Via the app.

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

We modified all of the bikes' Turbo/Boost modes to be full max. Our goal was to level the playing fields by putting everything to full power and maximum assist to see how they compared.

@kennedymkoba Ай бұрын

What a great content, am a fan from Perth, Australia.

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

@premierpoolcare6486 Ай бұрын

Love my Canyon Strive Underdog. Price point is amazing too

@darranjacobsen4366 Ай бұрын

I am in the market as my legs and body are going away fast (broken back, then neck). I am leaning toward the Strive after watching. But two questions, 1st, how "fast" are these bikes, are they going to tear up most trails, or are they just above pedal assist? 2nd. with the Strive in mind I was confused, you stated it has one of the smallest batteries, but later said it is not the most aggressive, but great for doing it all and covering miles really well. If I'm understanding this, does that mean the battery is more than capable of working all day? TY for putting in this work

@redball4093 Ай бұрын

Excellent video and details.

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

@EMTBAFV Ай бұрын

Great reviews! That Polygon is doing to many shorts on here for being "THE BEST EMTB EVER MADE" All i have been seeing this week on that brown painted bike with performance fox 38s bit outdated for 2024 i have them on one my bikes and fit 4 on an other take fit 4 factory over performance anyday.

@hobblyjig Ай бұрын

I just ordered the Ari Timp Peak Team spec, and it’s all your fault. I love that they let me mix brands and get the new Fox 38 Grip X2 fork with the Rockshox Vivid Ultimate rear shock. Their Team spec of that bike is absolutely insane. I’m giddy as a schoolgirl in anticipation. I’ve been watching the eMTB market closely for over three years and finally feel that I’ve found a bike good enough to get me to pull the trigger. The thing that put me over the edge was your other video where you talked about how the new EP801 motor is improved to the point where you don’t really notice big differences between that motor and the Bosch system. My only complaint with the Ari bike is that I wish the integration of the electronics was a little more sleek but that’s not enough to keep me out of the game any longer. Thank you for the great perspective you’ve given us with your videos!

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

Thank you so much and we truly hope that you enjoy the bike as much as we do! Have fun and shred many laps.

@porroco Ай бұрын

I m in for a 2025 change, i own a 2022 yeti 160e ep8 & i m looking to replace it either for a 2024 same but different or another brand, i would love to see santa cruz bullit in there i own one btw just want to hear a 2024 review of bullit cc

@geoffreypease3585 25 күн бұрын

Great reviews! Any way you could include transition and specialized bikes to compare ?

@Bottomburbsburnbums Ай бұрын

Surprised you even included the Pole, must have been recorded a while ago.

@L.Mo.04.11 Ай бұрын

Loved this series. However, being an emtb review, I would love to see range/elevation figures. It doesn't have to be a scientific test since there's ton of factor that affects this (ie DU, battery, tires, suspension, rider); just some real-world results would be great. Also interesting why Schwalbe didn't supply Eddy Currents since they advertise those as eMTB specifics.

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback and what matters in a range publication. We have spent waaaay more hours than you could imagine discussing this topic and how we could do a good job of it. We ran EC tires a couple years ago, they are good but depending on the conditions, there are other tires in their lineup that are also great.

@sotry123 Ай бұрын

If a canyon requires mutiple tast rides on different sizes to get the right size and its a direct to consumer brand, do you expect people to buy multiple sizes? I get that a med works for you but you gotts subtract a point or two for sizing

@andreas8425 Ай бұрын

Thank you for the nice review 🎉 I Like the Color from Orbea, is it the Blue Carbon view?

@marcopaganotto9125 Ай бұрын

It would be very interesting to see you testing the bikes using the same dampers, both front and rear, as well as using the same tyres too. This way, you'll be able to evaluate the unique component of the package, the frame, and it should provide a more accurate understanding of each systems differences I'm thinking. As you guys know, riding the same frame, switching between different dampers, produces very different ride feels each time. Food for thought!

@johnyates6753 Ай бұрын

Love watching your reviews guys but no Specialized, Trek or Santa Cruz? Bit of an odd choice of bikes!

@trillbill9378 Ай бұрын

I think they wanted bikes that actually offer decent value instead of just paying for a brand name. I totally see where you're coming from but also found it sort of refreshing to see some different bikes/brands instead of the typical Trek/SC/Specialized that everybody reviews.

@brum293 Ай бұрын

I wonder the same and would love to see an explanation from Loam Wolf if they can. When it comes to Specialized my guess is they’ve already reviewed the Levo last couple of years and afaik there’s no change to the bike this year.

@gpearce11 Ай бұрын

They've also reviewed those Levo, Rail, and Heckler at least once each over the last few years. None of them have been noticably updated since their last review, so there probably wasn't much point including them again.

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

Exactly. We’ve already included these bikes in previous shootouts; we don’t think they represent the pinnacle of performance in the eBike market currently, and they haven’t received updates recently. We only have so much time and resources to put into these shootouts, so try to select bikes at the top end of performance or new bikes we think are interesting.

@mattshepherd3412 Ай бұрын

@@TheLoamWolfI think people are wondering how these bikes stack up against the Rail, Levo etc. It would have been nice to here you guys say if these bikes are any better than bikes released 3 years ago.

@bfranco1519 Ай бұрын

Hey what pedals were you guys running? Same on all the bikes?

@martinschwartz7342 Ай бұрын

I really wanted to buy a Rocky Mountain emtb since they started making ebikes. Unfortunately, there are no Rocky Mountain dealers anywhere near me, in Cleveland, Ohio.

@Nickat1ne707 Ай бұрын

I got an altitude a couple months ago, it's a fuckin unit. Everyone I've let ride it has been pretty blown away too.

@NDemanuele1 Ай бұрын

As always, nice job with the video! I'm curious why you didn't include the Ibis Oso? Maybe it's old already? I'm curious about the Rocky Mountain. I always hear issues with their Ebikes as mentioned here with the clutch and overheating? Are these causes for concern? Or are these just one offs? Other than that they seem like great bikes and I'd like to demo one.

@antonyb Ай бұрын

great review

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

Thank you!

@PedalHeadz Ай бұрын

I DIDNT KNOW THEY HAD FIRELINE AT HOWLER! LOL I THOUGHT I WAS NOTICING SOME VIDS FROM COLER IN THERE!

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

We did a like day trip to Bentonville after a gnarly rain storm…ha ha

@obiwun32 Ай бұрын

Ha I noticed too. Good bit of Coler

@apatriotofhopedanjohn4781 Ай бұрын

My ABSOLUTE FAVORITE BIKE is the POLE but I have the VOIMA and you don’t have to remove the battery to charge…. My Favorite bike. PERIOD.

@vashon100 Ай бұрын

Isn't Pole bankrupt?

@robertgifford1678 28 күн бұрын

Nice review its great to see the ebike market growing. Aside from performance there is another aspect of ebiking that needs some discussion. This is service after the sale. What happens when you buy a bike that fails to perform from a defect? Your 10K plus jewel in the garage becomes a turd. What the manufacturer does in these situations makes or breaks the bike. It doesn't matter that my Rocky mountain C90 has 108nm of torque, fox 38 fork, big brakes and nice tires if I can't ride it 300 miles without it spending weeks at the shop. If you can't call the manufacturer and that manufacturer doesn't stand behind and support their dealer network the bike is junk. I have had a disappointing experience with Rocky Mountain and I own two Ebikes from them. I have heard other support issue with several other companies. This area needs more discussion because its real and its not talked about. The after sale performance of the bike and the company behind it are what you actually live with.

@1970madre Ай бұрын

You missed one of the most interessting Bikes 2024 : Nicolai Saturn 16 MGU ( with Pinion MGU )

@LukeBuzzard Ай бұрын

That would have been cool!

Ай бұрын

Would have liked a review on the Crestline RS 180, maybe on the next shootout. Good job guys!

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

Us too. Maybe next time they’ll want to send us a bike… thank you for the kind words. Glad you enjoyed it.

Ай бұрын

@@TheLoamWolf You are the best!!

@michaelprince3248 Ай бұрын

Seems like a lot of bikes in both prices ranges were left off. Would love to hear why Specialized and Santa Cruz and Transition did not make the list.

@acarter028 Ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly. The repeater and heckler are both high on my list. One thing I also would love covered is serviceability for us home mechanics.

@douglasalexander4348 27 күн бұрын

1994 my Kona Explosive cost £1,300. No suspension whatsoever, and no motor and crap tyres and brakes. That was an insane price at the time. Bought last years e160 at 1/3 off. I had a huge choice of bikes at that discount. Are this years that much better against the savings ? Would I notice anyway ?

@bullseye0112 Ай бұрын

You labeled the timeline as Rocky Mountain altitude not instinct. Cool to see you guys test this out

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. All that talk internally comparing the two had our brains fried… appreciate you pointing it out.

@bullseye0112 Ай бұрын

@@TheLoamWolf I'm sure that was a lot of bikes. Thanks for taking the time to do these tests with a bunch of the lads to see what's what. Otherwise lots of people would just be running blind not knowing what to get

@theparkourdude6976 Ай бұрын

What happened to the specialized levo? Did I miss it? Or is this the first year since 2022 that the levo hasn’t been in the shootout??

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

It was not in this year's shootout as it remains unchanged from the last two years we tested it. Still a very good bike, we just felt it was time to make room for some fresher options.

@bongobob7079 Ай бұрын

@@TheLoamWolf So it's not actually "The Best eMTBs of 2024" as the levo would be there. Good to know.

@theparkourdude6976 Ай бұрын

@@TheLoamWolf ok, thanks!

@roddas26 Ай бұрын

@@bongobob7079yeah your right. It's the bikes we tested in 2024 and what we liked. Not the best bike.😂

@adampalma3765 Ай бұрын

@@bongobob7079Specialized rider = wanker alert

@SilverbackOrangutan71 Ай бұрын

This is perfect

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

Thank you.

@naludog8087 21 күн бұрын

Why were Specialized, Yeti, and Santa Cruz excluded? All great bikes and top volumn sellers. Love your channel....Aloha

@TheLoamWolf 19 күн бұрын

Hello thanks for the kind words and watching. We’ve given some more in-depth responses to this question already but in short, they opted to sit this year out as perhaps updates are coming or the bikes are unchanged from previous year’s showings where we tested them. Thanks again for watching.

@marcopaganotto9125 Ай бұрын

Currently riding a Cube 160 which cost $4185 (£3300) and I personally don't think anyone needs to spend any more. So when you see bikes twice the price, but with lower specifications, it leaves me thinking just how much are we being robbed!

@LCNismo Ай бұрын

Broke people problems. I’ll pay for the weight overall. But I would never buy an e-bike until I have too.

@nniaho Ай бұрын

@@LCNismo I think Marco is pointing more to the fact that e-bikes in the 4k range are so good that you shouldn't double the price and get really diminishing returns. You have to be really rich or ride a ton if you want to justify a 8k bike. And have no other expensive hobbies

@dgw6448 Ай бұрын

Cool motorbike review

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@bryangreene4969 24 күн бұрын

What about the YT Decoy core 4 and 5? Ohlins and factory Fox suspension for a decent price?

@onetime242 Ай бұрын

For the reviewer who gave the Pole a 7, someone needs to remind him it’s not a trail bike. It’s a DH oriented e-bike that climbs like a billygoat and shreds DH like a hot knife through butter and it should be rated based on its performance ability for that category. If it’s the most capable and confidence inspiring e-bike up and down, it’s the winner in my book. Also, it looks the best by far!

@user-kk9ez9hg4z Ай бұрын

Interesting....I think the look of Pole is totally a deal breaker for me. No matter how fantastically it rides....I can't imagine purchasing a bike that looks like Pole. But you clearly have totally opposite opinion. We are all different I guess.

@fzr1000981 Ай бұрын

Bankrupt so it doesn't matter, buy a Crestline which is as good or better

@lokmtb8503 Ай бұрын

I completely disagree. Bikes should be rated by people for what they like and dislike about the bike. That's the upside of a round table review session is that you get different perspectives. Also it's a bike shootout so bikes are being compared for how they performed in the circumstances of the test and rated against each other.

@TheBen034 Ай бұрын

Would have been good for you guys to review the Propain Srech!

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

Stay tuned!! Later this year.

@topchoice1621 Ай бұрын

I really want you guys to stop saying budget bikes just because they only cost 6k and under that’s quite not budget but I get it overall good stuff and all the bikes are good no matter what anyone says

@henrymosier181 Ай бұрын

I’ve never looked into e-bikes, do budget models exist in the 2-3k range?

@marcopaganotto9125 Ай бұрын

Here in the extortionate UK, I picked up a Cube 160 with a RockShox Zeb for £3300. That's still a huge amount of money, but unbelievably, is a very good price when you look at the alternatives.

@equi Ай бұрын

Its relative.. a budget emtb is 6k lol

@equi Ай бұрын

@@siriosstar4789 no, i was saying, a budget mtb is prob 3k, whereas, relative to the TYPE of bike it is, a budget emtb is 6k.. dur. Just ask chatgpt next time: “In the context of the discussion, the term "relative" is being used correctly by @equi. The point they are making is that the concept of what constitutes a "budget" bike is dependent on the type of bike being discussed. - For a regular mountain bike (MTB), a budget model might cost around $3,000. - For an electric mountain bike (eMTB), a budget model might be around $6,000. Therefore, @equi is asserting that what is considered a "budget" bike varies depending on the specific category of bike. This use of "relative" is appropriate because it acknowledges that the concept of being budget-friendly depends on the context of the type of bike.”

@equi Ай бұрын

@@siriosstar4789 umm ok. Again, for an emtb, budget is around 5-6k. Whether you can afford a budget emtb is another matter all together. Budget doesnt mean “something everyone can afford,” since its relative. Within the emtb category, bikes on the cheaper end of the spectrum tend to be 5-6k, hence, these are “budget.” Yes, a budget emtb is still very expensive to some people.

@rickyshipe6188 Ай бұрын

Please do a review of Howler!

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

It’s coming soon!! Stand by.

@JH-bf7hv Ай бұрын

I would have liked to see the higher end Canyon Strive On Cfr Ltd at $9000 compete against the Orbea wild and Pivot LT

@Mockle07 10 күн бұрын

Exactly what I thought. I get that they needed a spread of spec/price but going by other reviews the Barel spec version would be right up there with the Wild and Shuttle LT.

@abelramos8983 Ай бұрын

Birthdays Christmans TLW year shootout

@totalglitch 7 күн бұрын

Where is the santa cruz heckler/heckler sl??? Awesome you choose or howler hit you up to do that video there.

@JohnnyKnutsville-qd6rx Ай бұрын

Please do a review of GasGas enduro model

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

We tried hard to get a hold of one for this shootout, but they didn't have stock for us. We'll try get a solo review going when they do.

@chadhertz4092 Ай бұрын

No Levo this year?

@stevemiller3471 Ай бұрын

No Specialized turbo levo? No Santa Cruz? YT?

@romma11 Ай бұрын

Superior goes for less then 4500$

@calastro2577 26 күн бұрын

Yo in ur opinion what bikes better pole voima or pivot shuttle am team

@georgedaswani9155 Ай бұрын

Is there a reason why the Transition eMTBs were not included?

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

The new Repeater PT is priced above our $10k cap, and the old Repeater wasn’t a bike we deemed a contender. It’s solid, but doesn’t kill it in any aspect.

@darrenjones3681 19 күн бұрын

Is this filmed in the uk? If not which bikes are if any available in the uk ?

@kodj06 Ай бұрын

No Specialized ?

@Nickat1ne707 Ай бұрын

2 questions boys, why did you guys use a giant stance and not the reign ? And also why an instinct and not an altitude?

@77rockcity Ай бұрын

💯

@LiveStoked 16 сағат бұрын

Late to the party but small critique, i didnt like that instead of listing the bottom bracket height on every bike sometimes you just listed the bb drop instead. I prefer when the comparable metrics are comparing the same thing across the board.

@TheLoamWolf 15 сағат бұрын

Thanks for the input and we'll work on making sure we try to keep all metrics the same, or offer both across the board. Thanks for watching,

@simonr23 Ай бұрын

How come now Merida or Cube entries?

@marcopaganotto9125 Ай бұрын

20 years ago, if someone had said that in the future, mountain bikes would cost upwards of £10,000, I'd have said "Nah, you're nutz!"

@taylorhickman84 Ай бұрын

crazy you can get a motorcycle for less

@3000KTM Ай бұрын

yep & our wages would stay the same 20 years onwards

@LCNismo Ай бұрын

Broke people problems

@user-kk9ez9hg4z Ай бұрын

@@3000KTMI don't know where you live but minimum wage got more than doubled last 20 years where I live (WA). Not saying $10k is reasonable price for bikes tho.....

@ammonjuffe Ай бұрын

@@user-kk9ez9hg4zwhere I live in Utah minimum wage has gone up from $5.15 in 2004 to $7.25 now in 2024

@leeroberts9091 Ай бұрын

How does this video only have 500 likes after 12 hours?

@IIISentorIII Ай бұрын

Half the world is sleeping and the others are out there like myself and riding our Bikes.

@QuakFu Ай бұрын

Love this (and last years) shoot-out but feels like you left a lot of brands out? Specialized,Transition, Santa Cruz, Trek, Creatline just to name a few. Why?

@TheLoamWolf Ай бұрын

First up, thank you very much! We invited just about all of those brands you listed. We can’t really say too much but, many of them have been unchanged for a couple years now, so you can assume whatever you’d like from that…but, we did ask and are always open to brands sending bikes, but understand if they don’t want to be included and possibly wait for another opportunity down the road.

@QuakFu Ай бұрын

@@TheLoamWolf The politics of who wants to be included in what was my guess, but it is too bad as many of those bikes (even a couple years old) may still be very relevant and competitive. Anyways keep up the great content