DHF front DHR back no complaints at all. I'm accustomed to the arr sh1t momentary loss of grip with the dhf when leaning my bike. Gona give assi a try now though, you've convinced me

Assegai all the way. Changed from the DHF and never going back. Such a fantastic and forgiving tire.

Dfr front aggressor rear

Dhr2 front and rear. Open to options but dont wanna add rolling resistance

DHRII front and rear, all year around and all weather

There’s some debate about it actually being R for “rear”.

@@MiloLife for what else should it stand? And what’s the F in DHF for then?

@@MiloLife not really, maxxis confirm it to mean rear

Because it is.

@@rolux4853 freeride and race

^^^^^^^^THIS IS ME^^^^^^^^^^^

I'm just learning about tires so don't roast me lol but why run the DD in the front considering it takes the full brunt of the trail?

@@nyreppin1 your rear takes more abuse as it is being dragged down the trails especially steep rocky sections.

Ya im done with the DHF Front or rear the Assegai is a way better tire . I'll never put another DHF On my bike again ran 4 all the same pretty much .

I Found The DHF Abit Loose On the Cornering Transition Its Predictable But There

I just got som Morsa 2.6 for front...normally use DHF 2.3 so should be more grip?

I was thinking of going Assegai in the rear, and you just answered me before I could post the question... Thx! :)

@@techtoth1 If you ask me...for most conditions assegai is king. I find it's a superior tyre in almost every aspect compared to DHF/DHRII, except maybe really dry/hardpack conditions and rolling speed in the rear.

@@lucaspeters1463 I'm curious to try it for the rear. At the moment work is going so bad, that I'll have to stick to the Eddy Current until it becomes a qualifying slick... :)

I've seen people move their Assegai to the rear and pop a Shorty on the front for the wet months, and it seems to be a nice combo. Contemplating doing just that this Fall/Winter.

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I am pretty sure the exo/exo+ assegia are lighter than dhf counterpart. I’m running the exo+ maxgrip assegia/exo maxterra dissector combo and love it.

Hey man, great tire selection! Your conditions seem a lot like mine, I need to pedal about 85% of the time in very soft forest soil for about 8 months of the year. Very few real downhill sections and the few that are here last only for some seconds. I’m really interested in why you have cushcore inserts in your tires! You have soft soil and not much elevation, for what do you need that extra security? No offense, I’m just interested why one would choose them in conditions similar to mine. Yes I have bigger roots in between the soft soil, but it always feels like my tires alone can handle them without any problems. I have Santa Cruz Reserve Carbon wheels and I never hit the rim. I however have to say that I run fairly high tire pressure because of all the pedaling my trails involve. With too low tire pressure the pedaling gets very exhausting and annoying, so I sacrifice a bit of traction for better efficiency. I’m fortunate to have at least some jumps and drops, but I never thought about adding cushcore. I always thought it’s only for the hardest conditions where you hit super high drops and have big square edged sharp rocks, that go right through your tire and damage the bead of your rim. So can you please explain the benefits you get from riding cushcore in that type of terrain? What bike and what suspension travel you ride in your conditions would be very interesting to know too! I ride a Santa Cruz Tallboy V4 with 130mm in the front and 120mm in the back. Due to the Lower Link VPP the 120mm in the back feel more than enough for my conditions all while being super efficient while pedaling and having immense pop to use every little root or rock as a kicker to get air! Thanks in advance for your answer!

​@@matthewsailor6419 Hey Matthew. The comparable Assegai (29" with 2.6mm) is around 145g heavier. Totally negligible of course. Maybe some day I´ll put an Assegai on and say that its so much better... or not :D But for now my inner Monk is satisfied - I actually need to admit, that the dissector is exceeding my expectations man. Sick piece of rubber and exactly what I was looking for.

​@@rolux4853 Hey! Nah of course I don´t feel offended or so :D All good. I´ll try to explain my thoughts on that. I need to admit that I changed a lot at once because I was having a plan, and did not take my time to compare things 1:1 so I can only tell about what I think I feel. My bike is a 2020 stumpjumper evo 150/140mm - 29" tires. - A bit weak on the damper but an awesome combo. I also take my bike to parks or places where I can ride flowy stuff and rooty rutty enduro lines. But the trail bike would mostly be used here where I live and this has pretty much the scenario that you also describe. Well... But since I buy everything that I replace in "slightly lighter" I wanted to go the same route on the tires and made up my mind about rotational mass and also about how the weight of the wheels affect the acceleration of the bike. A problem was that here on this super soft soil and sandy parts I always sink in a bit and when the tire is too soft or when the knobs are too big, then I get even slowed down on the decent in a way that I can feel it. I wanted to get rid of that feeling that I´m always fighting against the resistance. I just tried to isolate the factors a bit. So I switched the tires to the Dissector and the DHF. Rolls faster, I can break traction easier when I need it and so on, without running smaller tire widths or high pressures in the tire. Why do I want to keep running lower pressures? I want my tire to hug every root, stone or whatever comes my way on technical climbs or the way down. I´m riding fast, but I´m no Reece Wilson who´s flying over everything with huge momentum. So the lower pressure gives me a notch more grip. This is also one of the reasons why I run the tires tubeless. You can go down with the pressure a bit. And why now cush core? The fist reason for me was, that the the core sits tight on the rim and does a really good job ad reinforcing the carcass. You don´t burp or roll the tire and corners became somehow more predictable for me. Secondly snake bites can always happen when you do not have much air between the tire and the rim and... with cush core this is no factor anymore. With that extra bit of security I was also immediately choosing different lines. A third thing was the idea to give the tire a different progression by decreasing the air volume but not the air pressure or choosing smaller width tires. Well yeah of course the rim protection is also a nice plus :) Overall I think I was kinda able to achieve what I was looking for as I was building up my new tires.

Sounds like Lysterfield. DHF is so bad there, I've washed out a few times due to the sandy nature of the tracks. Assegai on the other hand is awesome as it hangs on like crazy.

Yeah, shorty is very specific conditions only

Love the Dissector front or rear

Agreed!

Great. But I would put it in the back. Not Front.

fast rolling rear to compliment an Assegai up front is what the Dissector is best at.

Dissector f and Aggresor r here, too. Better rolling while still being very grippy

2.5 Assegai works really well on a 35mm rim

I' m running a 2.6 assagai on a 30 mm internal rim and love it have tryed it on a 35 and it was sick have two bikes almost identical one with i35 mm rims one with i30 front and i35 rear running 2.8 rear 2.6 front and its awesome the 35mm rims with 2.5 maxxis shortys f and r feels a bit harsher dont know if its the stiffer rims or the 60 tpi tyres the 120 tpi tyres feel more bouncy easier to jump and pop of stuff and i think they roll faster . Food for thought .

Totally! I've only been riding dirt bikes for about 2 years but one thing I've noticed between tires on mountain bikes and moto is that you have to keep rolling speed much more in mind for mountain bikes. Without an engine and only your legs propelling you up the hill, choosing a tire setup that keeps your legs and lungs happy on the climb is super important! -Mike

That 2.5 Assegai has been the gold standard for the last few years, you're going to be HOOKING up out there!! -Tor

Now Running Assegai F/R 2.5 DD MG F 23Psi 2.5 EXO+MT R 23Psi Tires Are AMAZING was at Whistler Yesterday 😎GoodTimes

DHR2 out back tends to grip nicely on corners, but even so will still get drifty on loose corners, and will deflect sideways off roots, but it's always predictable and pretty much any tire will do the same with varying degrees of predictability

This is actually a sequel to the Maxxis rear tire video we made last fall!

@@TheLostCo I know, and a shootout between all the brands wouldve been much more interresting. Because, well, see above, every other tire is a rear tire now. :p

Try a magic mary rear. Assagai front. Infinite engagement

Michelin DH 34 back 22 front is the best but heaviest combo to many

Assegai works really well in loose conditions.

I like the shorty in the dry dusty stuff seams to still work right up till its dead the dhf is good but nobs start tearing of when a bit worn assagai is really good right up till its almost smooth i think the shorty is faster than the assagai but the assagai is more consistant as you lean it over there all good but assagai is best even if its a bit slower rolling .

Certainly a bit lighter. I was hoping they were going to go more in depth on rolling resistance between the two. Vital did a test a while back and surprisingly the Assegai front and rear rolled further than the Minion combo did. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oMthiNx7t7_MeZs.html&ab_channel=VitalMTB

I have run all but the dhr s in every condition and i think the dhf does roll a fear bit quicker the other consideration is 120 tpi vs 60 tpi in same compound 3c i think the 120 tpi is faster rolling havent timed it just feels quicker the other cosideration is rim width as the wider rim makes for more grip more tyre on the ground but slower rolling ?

I actually prefer the DHF over the Assegai. I like the side knobs better. You just have to commit to turn the bike.

If you’re a big guy riding an ebike you should in be on DD or dh casing, it’s not a problem with maxxis tires you don’t have the proper tire for your application.

@@CalgaryDynastar I second that. All emtbs should be equipped with dd or dh casing off the jump. Lots of benefits and no drawbacks since tire weight really won’t be an issue.

@@matthewsailor6419 exactly, I don’t get why someone would worry about lightweight casings when pedaling a 40-50 lb bike, I’d be more worried about having a tire that can take the beating. Once my current exo+ are done I’m moving to DD on my 5010.

You can’t blame Maxxis when your clearly not in their „target group“ when developing these kind of „regular“ trail tires. The average male human being weighs between 70 and 85 kilogram and of course they develop their most common tires for this group, because they get the most customers. Same goes for suspension manufacturers and their range of adjustments. Luckily in this day and age they also develop tires that can withstand a hella lot of abuse, without the need for downhill casings! The DD casing is a prime example of that. It’s clearly a user error when you ride the exo casing while weighing that much. Go for DD and you get amazing tires that don’t have a problem with your heft. Don’t take it as „fatshaming“ or any other bullshit, it’s just the way how companies work. They have a specific target group where they can make the most money of. Naturally they develop most of there stuff for these people. In Mountainbiking that’s the averagely fit to mildly overweight male. Also I ride Exo and Exo+ casing in freezing temperature to -20 degree Celsius and I never ever had problems with cracking tires or anything like this - I never even heard of this. This winter I rode about 1200km on 29“ 2.6 Maxxis DHF Exo+ MaxxGrip in the front and 2.6 Maxxis DHR II Exo+ MaxxTerra in the back. I had good grip, average rolling resistance, absolutely no cracking and no folding side knobs.

@@rolux4853 I am blaming anyone who spec EXO casing tyres in EMTBs that are meant to be ridden on demanding trails.

Nah assegai is for noobs. If you know how to ride, dhf offers more

DHR II is going to roll better, Assegai is going to have more grip, especially in the transition. As long as you're doing your part, the Assegai is rarely if ever going to break loose when cornering. That said, the DHR II does seem to be predictable enough that it shouldn't be spooky or surprising once you've gotten the feel for it. Also, in a full lean, the DHR II is going to grab a little bit better with those more aggressive shoulder knobs. So Assegai = better grip throughout the transition, but will feel less secure in a full lean.

Dhr washes out more easily in the front so thats just on you pal haha

@@DandyHippo Thats not what I have experienced - besides it has the same side knobs as the dhf so I would be surprised if it behaved different when leaned - it rolls easier though due to the middle knobs .. Not sure why it washes out easier for you, maybe you are using dual compound instead of 3C maxxgrip or even maxterra??

Dissector side knobs wear very very fast. Found the Aggressor to be a much better alternative.

2.50 DHR II is for team use only right now since Maxxis sells 2.40 and 2.60.

I Run 2.5s F/R Riding Whistler in the AM WORKS AWESOME

The 2.60 sizes have a good bit more volume and a larger overall diameter compared to the 2.4/2.5. Generally this allows you to run a bit lower pressure for increased traction. Some people like the plush feeling but others like the more precise feedback provided by a narrower tire.

@@MaxxisTiresUSA thanks

They change tires depending on course. DHR2 on both ends was probably a faster, more park-like course and they're trying to pick up some rolling speed. For Leongang, a lot of em ride Assegais front and rear, or Shortys/Wetscreams if it's muddy.

Noticeable

Interesting

Did you run Assegai front of both front/rear ?

@@alexboo3512 No, only front. I used the DD Casing and Max Grip compound. Different casing and compound would be slightly better rolling I guess. Ran a DHF EXO + 3C Terra compound on the rear

PS: Just got a new bike. It came with Schwalbe Magic Mary front and Big Betty Rear and they are awesome tyres so far. Great grip and rolling resistance is reasonable. Previous new bike also came with different Schwalbes but was put off by poor grip and tyre life. Time will tell if these new ones last any better.

What do you run in the front

@@broncos_8964 Magic Mary 29" 2.6 Orange compound Super Trail casing, Bg Betty 2.4 rear same casing and compound as the front.

Magic Mary also has intermediate knobs, and is much more aggressive. It is probably the closest non Maxxis tire to the Assegai.

Schwalbe basically only have one front tire, the magic Mary. But therefore the MM is working fine in pretty much all terrain

Yeah, thanks, but the Magic Mary is a bit similar to the Eddy Current, which I already tried; I wanted to experience something different. A bit more "spaced" on the external.

Ok, I need to add that I went out after a few rainy days, and I must say the Hans Dampf performed really well. Probably the superdry terrain I encountered previously were not its piece of cake... But it wasn't for the denser knobs of the Eddy Current, too... Guess that kind of terrain is still to be worked out perectly by tire manufacturers...

It's not the first time I read online about inconsistency with the Hans Dampf and I don't see it as a popular tire in the Schwalbe line up. Magic Mary, Big Betty, and Nobby Nic seem more popular. I'd like to try a Magic Mary up front with either a Big Betty or Nobby Nic on the rear for more downhill riding, but I'm also quite happy with Nobby Nics front and rear as an all-around tire.

2.5 High roller 3c maxx terra is a great front tyre, for all Uk conditions. Works well in mud too

Running a HR II on the front / Rekon on the back for general all around trail riding.

@@raivkka4313 coolest thing bro, on my 2019 Trance Advanced 2, full carbon frame,wheels, bars, etc. I just threw a 2.6 Rekon 3c max terra, and a 2.5 rekon dual compound (longer lasting) in the back, and i roll insanely fast, and grip on the terrain like a freaking grip god. great combo!

@@raivkka4313 yeah im running a 2.5 HR II rear cus i pinched my rekon (need to plug it), and 2.6 rekon front

As long as you don't need to turn, the HR2s grand canyon sized gap between the center and corner knob makes it sketchy to corner on. Plus it has a much rounder profile even in WT version

We tend to recommend the Dissector as a rear tire. We think the Assegai would be a great option for a lot of traction on roots and rocks in dry conditions.

Aggreed i run the shorty in really loose dust or loose sand it works really well in oz.

While we generally do recommend a wider tire up front, the Shorty is a much better front tire than the DHR II (in most conditions) and would therefore encourage you to keep your set up how it is.

You have to commit to lean the bike. I ride a lot of loose over hard off cumber stuff and for me the DHF feels better. You don't have the transition knobs but the side knobs feel better.

Exactly, assegai is a good beginner tyre but feels boring and not so good on the lean

I prefer the Assegai so much that I haven't considered switching back so I've never thought about the wear compared to the DHF, haha. -Mike