bro just casually slid that in

​@@FloatingLeaf-ke7lfayo

Why I will always appreciate Main Man, he will do some semi-serious analytical breakdown guide video and then just casually slip in some outrageous shit lmao

Imma not new, but sidestep still such a hard thing (purple ranks, steve)

​@@keyji3822it's about matchup knowledge. Stepping randomly will get you killed, but if you know a characters key moves often don't track to one side then that's the side you should step, like ssl vs Kaz is usually pretty rewarding and likely to work

@@keyji3822 Bruh I feel you. I remember watching mainman talk about stepping the sneak 4 thing and then for whatever reason, not being able to sidestep at all. I straight up kept flinging the stick to do it but it just never happened. I can step the while running fine though

​@@smugaladdin8372 Bro i have many hours in tekken i love practicing and learning new things in Tekken 8 but the specific tracking example ( one move tracks only to one side) is cancerous. It should be removed. The move should be either homing or not hominge. Moves like b 4 of feng witch have homing properties but they dont have the homing spark that is cancerous

Long term player, dragunov and king are rword proof

I think it's because ever since Tekken 5 DR his moves always take a bit of time to do.

Be careful of the counter

@@angryassyrian5627 TMM literally explained in the video that keep out works against Dragunov because of poor reach and limiting his options for getting up close where he is strong. All the characters in the game have both fast and slow moves, speed really isn't the issue here.

Grappling only works in close distance

😂😂😂 dragunovs new combo is more of a liability than a perk so punishable

Dickjab is really good apart from it being a low

Dickjab losses to Hopkick, its a mindgame you wanna stay away from otherwise your eating free damage from a Panic option.

@@OmegaXF from what joey fury said on brian_F recent video.. Most Hopkicks are airborne from frame 9, so +2 dickjab should win

Also you can sidestep a lot of frame traps. Watch Anakin play Reina most recently, it happens all the time

@@Guitar-Dog this is true however, I find it rare to dickjab while I'm +2. Majority of the time, you will dickjab to escape pressure, not to enforce it.

im praying on your character downfall🙌🙌

Nobody cares

I hope they don't nerf Dragunov too hard, as well. He's such a great character, I rather enjoy fighting against him. He's nowhere near as obnoxious as Launch Leroy was.

Dragunov will get nerfed even more 100%. It doesnt matter if thers good counterplay. As long hes played that often and pople still steal wins with him, it doesnt matter. Namco will come to the conclusion that despite the counterplay, hes too opressive.

Even if he is nerfed into the worst character again, I will play him. His moveset is just fun.

All

Until I win….

Every one available.

He’s not even that hard to fight against

All of them

He had the same in T7 in season 1 before the community cried like they are now and he became bottom tier and never played. Sad to see the same happening again just bcos people are lazy and bad.

@@PacketOfCerealHis damage is too high, he has the highest damage optimal combo in the game. Other than his damage, I’m fine with the character.

​@@crackededge9351Yeah they gotta nerf his damage by like 30%

Tekken 7 season one lol. I understand, you re young so you dont remember.

​@@AntharTruefrfr. He was super strong when T7 first came out on consoles. Got deja vu seeing jdcr play drag again when t8 released 😂

​@@AntharTrue people thought JDCR surpassed Knee for a hot minute during those times😂

@@jellypunk1495LITERALLY. I’m in ruler ranks myself and drags are free wins right now.

Exactly im in blue ranks and I absolutely destroy dragunov… people just lazy and don’t want to get in the lab and figure it out.. most of his moves are a simple side step.. there’s way more characters people need to worry about

He’s not unbeatable he’s just strong

tekken fans will do anything to not play tekken

Looks easy in practice mode

Right, and cd4 is so much harder to apply effectively now, even at the corner, due to ssl being such a strong option.

Duck her pokes and interupt then sidestep other shit. That's how you beat Reina basically.

Duck punish sentai 3, thats pretty much it

Ur at an advantage bc nobody knows the match up bc nobody plays kuma

Alisa pls 😭

I need how to heat jun with alisa im getting mashed on like crazy it never feels like it’s my turn

@@xbgsheikiii3593 time to spam power crush

Nah she's straight up busted, her damage and range are absolutely insane.

@@angryassyrian5627 haha yeah she def needs some tweaking. It's just funny given their relationship

@@jasperslavone1275 oh lmao yea that's kinda funny.

​@angryassyrian5627 the point went right over your head I see 😅

Hilarious 😅 too silly

im kind of late but as soon as you see the animation you can hopkick or do a similar move to beat both options. you can also flash duck and WS launch him if youre quick enough to react

Buzz light-year meme

There’s a lot of new players

That’s exactly what I assume people try and do after I mindlessly spam WR2 and b1+2 and then they eat CH 1,2,1 heat engager into wall combo and die for it. Just step him like TMM says and make the Dragunov have to actually think. (For reference, I’m a Paul main who just picked up Dragunov for fun because I made a skin for him that looks like the Joker)

He's a massive scrub killer. A lot of players are new/bad, refuse to learn, and cry constantly all over social l media for nerfs because it has worked for them in so many other games. This is what patch culture has wrought. It's why I was so glad SF6 said no major balance for 1 year, and I wish Tekken had done something similar. It forces people to actually learn, adapt, and explore the meta and push their charters, instead of just crying for nerfs and hiding tech to avoid nerfs.

@@Saskaruto16 exactly what i say people are just lazy and don’t actually want to learn the game then they get mad when they get destroyed online.. i started at tekken 5 and there wasn’t nearly as many tools we had to learn a matchup.. this game offers everything u could think of to beat and learn other characters

@@Cutthroat__ Yeah it's really frustrating to me that patch culture created this, this group that just doesn't even try to learn. They never should have been catered towards. I hugely admire SF 6 for deliberately not playing into this patch culture at all for a years, and forcing players to learn and develop like we used to have to do in every other game.

Any arguments?

I think you’re forgetting that Jun has a 36 damage 10f punish that wall splats for like 75 or more damage and can be done from crouch, and she also can make basically any traditionally unsafe move -9, and she can easily recover all of her gray health with either one combo or just use her stupidly long ranged heat smash

@@metsu-satsu4280 I can create a 30 minute video explaining why he is the best character in the game but your yellow ass wouldnt get it.

I am from the future and dragunov wins Major after the balance patch

That's why it's called new players, sherlock

@@thegoldexperience8340 Then they should stop talking like they know anything. Take the time to learn, not bitch.

He is busted and rightfully should have his damage nerf. Drag wins games in two interactions. Land a Df2 from a side step using the best movement speed in the game. Take the guy to the wall with the best wall carry in the game and on the oki mix up if the opponent ducks because they’re afraid of the crazy new lows that take 50% health in 3 hits then you kill them with a i14 mid that leads into the best wall combo in the game.

@@hyunchong02 if youre talking about busted damage then you must know about jack 8 crazy dmg too. one of dragunov weakness is he lack good and fast homing mid moves. i think for now drag's damage and wallcarry is his only strong point, and i dont know what you mean by movement speed but if you're talking about best movement then it belongs to either lili/azucena and dont forget even if he has a new low its -15 on block its risky but rewarding. if u cant handle his mix up then consider hitting him with a dick jab/crouch jab or do a sidestep right

@@Abu-ir8vt Some female models may have better lateral evasion due to smaller hitboxes, but drag has the best has the best back dash in the game. drag's wall combo needs to get nerfed and so does db 3+4 and FC 1, 4. FC 1,4 is low risk at -13, but gives WAY too much advantage. DB 3+4 can't be stepped at +5 or greater and basically can't be whiffed with a range of 2.8; -15 can't even be punished well by some characters(poor steve). Make it crumple or -19 and let it make it more steppable, because homing at +5 is unreasonable when Drag is ALWAYS +5 or more.

@@hyunchong02 if youre only talking about drag wall combo then no its not busted, but if you get wall throw and the wall combo then yes, it is op. db34 only track ssl but it does not track SSR how do i know? because i lab him and the FC df1,4 is not -13 if u got the 4 it means that that your fc df1 hit somebody and it is -13 if your df1 got blocked, which is easy to punish and i dont know about giving him advantage. if someone is at -13 then it cleary means that hes on disadvantage. and db34 is steppable just do sidestep right and continue to sidewalk

@@Abu-ir8vt yeah I’m talking about the throw combo, it makes ducking dragunov at the wall an instant loss. Db 3+4 can’t be stepped if Drag is +5 or greater which is what makes it busted, you just loop it into itself and at +7 your interrupt option has to be i12 or faster which isnt substantial enough to justify the risk of the Drag just staying within his frame advantage for follow up. Yeah, I know the follow up for 4 doesn’t come out if blocked, but that’s just semantics, you’re always gonna buffer the 4 anyways making the whole thing effectively -13 and on hit gives +7 advantage into an unsteppable low slide or steppable mid axe kick mix up making it a pseudo hellsweep-like vortex at only -13 on block.

yeah man, drag deserves some love after being so stupidly garbage in t7 for 6 years.

Also some things, early in t7 grabs don't have tracking, now in t8 grabs are homing, so many drags use grabs for counter sidestep. Another thing in t8 is cheap system, in t7 you can take on block drags hits, and don't have damage for it, now ff3 for example did damage on block equal df1 on hit. Drag have 14 frame punisher in t7 he doesn't have it, his damage around wall become big, he had many mids but than he use low, he lost his initiative, now he has +frame lows, which allow press he more, his mid homing make little stronger, has guarantee on contrhit, he had poor hitbox his mids, now his b4 hit grounded, so many weakness then he has in t7, is dissapear. I am dragmainer in t7, in t8 he become more stronger

I agree the universal changes do help him, he has good throws and now they track. The better damage on walls and on CH, liked DF3+4 and DB3+4 guaranteeing stomp is just nice. Higher risk gives higher reward. The buggy stuff for sure needs to go, like the sneak 4 guarantee after certain combos, and b4 after the throw. He is still very counterable and short range so that makes me just wonder if this is early game hate and his popularity will die down as time goes on

Two new lows that may be the best in the game. DB 3+4 has too much range and does 25 damage, so what if it is -15. By the time the opponent starts predicting and blocking it, you probably already landed 4 and got 100 damage and now Drag has conditioned you to duck more and land the highest wall combo damage in the game from an i14 mid. FC 1,4 is basically zero risk at -13 and on hit goes into an interruptible and unsteppable slide for 46 damage.

So if I throw DB3+4, and it hits, I get 25 damage and +7. That’s great, but to be launch punishable, meaning I’m probably gonna take 60-110 damage if my opponent is sharp, have a range someone can back dash out of, and it has 0 evasive properties, sounds pretty okay to me personally. The slide setup after FC 1,4 is really neat, never thought of that, but slide is -6 on hit. Sure you got 46 damage if all that lands, but you just lost your turn too, and risked getting punished in twice in the process

@@orangenoun7148 db 3+4 doesn’t whiff, it has better range than d2 since drag has the longest legs in the game and if drag has enough +frames(which he usually does) it can’t be stepped. If Im Drag, I’m throwing that shit all day, just do the math. What is your block % for fast unseeable lows? If it’s above 25-33% and then congrats you may punish drag for more he hits you, but with a rate that high you probably duck too much and will get hit by many of Drag’s mid which are some of the best in the game. Also the slide is now -0 on hit, which is perfect for Drag since his movement is the best in the game. Drag’s busted I know the match up well from a buddy I play with daily and it’s really apparent to me the Drag’s I see even past Fujin were carried their by Drag’s high damage output since most are lacking in their fundamentals compared to others of the same rank.

Win rate is such a bad statistic Especially in fgc It should be win rates in Tekken god + minimum