I really wish they'd ban Karn from Pioneer. Being able to fetch whatever card answers the current board state is both powerful and frustrating (for the opponent). Add to that the ability to shut down artifact based decks and the fact the card is a x4 in one of the decks that has been Tier 1 for more than one year, it really makes me wonder why they haven't taken action already.

Thank you for touching on pauper, and giving it the respect it deserves

My biggest issue with Sheoldred is she turns drawing cards in black, which is normally accompanied with a down side, an upside. Black normally needs to sacrifice life or permanents to draw cards. Sacrificing permanents is already used with cards that provide upside when they die, and Sheoldred just lets those decks stabilize against aggro decks. Changing life loss into life gain when drawing cards is self explanatory. She further makes the one ring even more of a nuisance.

The irony of The One Ring is that it's optimally broken when you put four of them in a deck. You can then repeatedly reset your Burden Counter life loss simply by playing a new copy, either from your hand or the graveyard. There's so many of them around these days, WotC should simply errata away its laughable "Legendary" Artifact label. Either that, or make The One Ring truly singular - errata it to be Restricted in all formats.

I’m not surprised the 1 ring was here But I’m shocked orcish bowmasters wasn’t mentioned at all when it’s arguebly the stronger card

Unholy Heat should have dealt 4 damage instead of 6, and still would have been good.

Was interesting to hear you take into consideration bans for the pauper format as most people don't usually acknowledge it when discussing lists like this. Your editing for your video was nice, but I think you should have used the back side of Valki's card "Tibalt, the Cosmic Imposter" over the token it generates. It would help people who don't know the card see what it did better and why it was a real threat of a combo.

4:22 the other side of tibalt cosmic imposter is a planeswalker, that's an emblem with the same name lmao. I'm surprised nobody is reviewing these videos.

Just wanted to hop in and say I LOVE these videos as the editing is great, the topic interests me, you talk about cards in a concise yet detailed way, and your videos aren’t extremely long however I also want to say that me (and my dad) really like the videos you’ve made about cards that might be broken/are broken (like this video or the video where you talked about cards that could be broken) great stuff :)

This editing looks fantastic. Keep the good work!

17:03 was not expecting this in a Duel Logs/Mana Logs video, but I fucking love it

I remember when flame slash was scary

Some of these cards don’t have a chance of being banned…but I always enjoy hearing people make the case. Good video!!

Ay, good calls on #3 & #2.

i really like the more in depth explanation! a little bit of a miss to only show the emblem and not the walker itself while talking about violent outburst into tibalt, but i really enjoyed the video overall!

Urza's Saga is an enchantment as wel. This makes it easier to interact with than you make it out to be if it were just a land, enchantment removal works on it as well.

As a Sheoldred enjoyer myself, Sheoldred needs a ban

jegantha is just thrown into loads of decks because the companion cost is essentially nothing, but the actual impact it has on games in general is extremely low. I don't think I've ever seen a game decided by a jegantha companion in hundreds of historic/explorer games on arena the one ring and orcish bowmasters are both insane, I wouldn't be surprised to see them banned in the weaker formats

So glad to see you are making magic content now

I enjoyed the video! Two things I will mention; first, the card shown for Tibalt, Cosmic Impostor was the emblem he created, not the backside of Valki. Second, Rakdos (black-red) Midrange is no longer a meta deck in Standard, tho Esper Midrange and Esper Legends are.

As a master duel player I can’t believe there’s a card that lets you play cards you own that aren’t in the current game…

Could you do a series on some of the most notable errata that have happened, why they were necessary, and their impact on the game afterwards?

I love learning about this stuff because it's all over my head.

Great vid

Apart from the omission of Nykthos I think it's a great list! Really nice explanations too, Evoke elementals have been a barrier to me bothering playing Modern, sadly. All the amazing low mana creatures available in modern, just for them all to be turned off by Fury, Grief and Solitude

Talking about Companion, I'd definitely agree that it's been a problem but I think that's less to do with the mechanic itself and more with the balancing. The companions who have been a major issue have all had very easy to fulfill restrictions, so it's really not a major cost to use. But some of the lesser played ones like Keruga, Zirda, or Obosh are fine because their deck building restrictions are actually pretty significant. I'd like Wizards to legitimately take a look at the mechanic again, but using more narrow and restrictive companion clauses to really make people have to think about their decks and to incentivize decks that aren't as common. On the custom mtg subreddit I saw a cycle of companions that all restrict you to only using basic lands of that color, which not only means being significantly harder to splash other colors, but even utility lands aren't an option. Something like that could make the mechanic really interesting while making sure decks don't just slap a companion into their sideboard because they could already fulfill its restriction.

Urza's saga is also an enchantment, cards like March of Otherworldy Light can exile it permanently for as little as one white mana. Disenchant also works.

you should have what format in the title I assume its modern but who knows Edit: Now it seems like your talking about every format but I come from a commander format so i was a bit confused on power lvl on some cards

I have a deck where Sheoldred is a fairly early blocker (mid-long range) that eventually goes infinite if I untap with a specific card in play

"Because it's always Emrakul" lol

I'm not sure black red midrange is still the deck to beat in standard, probably esper at this point or maybe even golgari

Can you do top cards banned in every format by how good they would be if they weren’t banned in every format

The Ring is seeing a ton of play in Omnath decks in modern, which have been putting up the best results with The Ring. If it gets banned, that would be the deck to get it banned

Video idea, maybe you could cover the cards that are banned in all formats because of controversial/offensive artwork, names, etc? You could explain what exactly the issue is with the card, and maybe delve on if the cards would be any good even if they were unbanned

It will be interesting to come back in a year or so and see how many cards on this list got sent upstate. I don't play Magic, but Karn just seems like a potentially obnoxious floodgate.

I would actually be OK with the one ring if it was a max 1, or if playing the second copy didn't allow you to dodge the damage from the counters. It's the fact that the only thing that kills the one ring is the second one ring, that makes you immune for a second turn that is so frustrating.

If they ban Fury The One Ring can stay since DnT, Humans, aggro decks and even possibly Spirits will keep it in check for sure. Also Brazen Borrower will be back in the format. The community always seem to target cards with high price tags. First was Monkey and then Solitude when MH2 came out. The One Ring should not see the hammer since in November some new LoTR product is set to be release and that is one of the chase cards. Honestly for me the issue in the Format is Fury, the rest of the decks are well balanced. I really didnt get why the mention of murktide. Murktide decks in modern have a high chance of wiffing due to the low land count. You do not know how many mulls to 5 I have needed to take just to get scam to 3 cards. When the deck works like a charm it does, but it is not always the case.

Although some formats lack good land destruction since Urza's Saga is also an enchantment wouldn't you just run enchantment removal? Especially when there are modal enchantment removal spells like Light of Hope, Feed the Swarm, Broken Wings, and even blue has things like Stern Dismissal to bounce Urza's Saga back to hand.

The irony that red getting absolutely drug for having a slight color pie break for unholy heat- just being good enough to actually play, and yet green is choking on all the card draw

Replace experimental synthesizer with Orcish Bowmaster and Im with you. Surprised you didn't meant Sheoldred's synergy with the one ring, as the life gain from draw practically wipes out the downside. Speaking of the one ring, it's pretty funny to me that the legend rule actually helps it, as casting a new copy is one of the best ways to reset your burden counters if youre having trouble keeping up. But yeah, between Sheoldred, 1Ring, and Bowmasters, it feels like everyone in MTGA is pretty much running either Black or a combo with black (including me, rocking white in it for boardwipes like white suns twilight and some seal aways as its one of the best things I found to get rid of Opps 1Rings) and whoever gets their 1Ring first ends up running away it most the time. One honorable mention for a card thats still kind of low key but I think will start to get more outspoken hate in the future is Palantir of Orthanc. At first I thought it was only good for decks with big mana stuff in them, but now I find myself putting it in everything and being glad I did. With that said, not sure I'd put more than one or two in a deck as with the legends rule its not a card you want 2 of in your hand as its rarely removed and thus one will be a "dead card". And Ill die alone on my hill knowing few others agree but paradox engine needs to go. Not for balance issues, but fun factor. The card may as well say "Your turn last 20 mins, and your opponent will probably scoop even if playing half to all your deck doesn't win outright"

Couldn’t you use fade into antiquity to exile urza’s saga?

I was expecting fable of the mirror breaker to be on this list. It's a very powerfull card in modern, and sees play in a variaty of decks, from rakdos scam to 5c creativity. This goes to show how powerfull it is eventho its a 3 mana spell in modern. The problem comes in pioneer, where a 3 mana spell ain't really that expensive, as with urza saga, there's no good way to answer fable, and you have to deal with it, or it will run away with the game. This is a problem for midrange decks in pioneer, where in te match up usually wins the deck who manage to play more fable of the mirror breakers, and unless its counter there is no reason not to stick a fable in place.

I play a deck with Sheoldred, and lemme tell u, she's an amazing creature to have in Black right now, but she's not close to being as broken as she seems This Standard has removal seeping out the ears. Anytime I play Sheoldred it's pretty much a cointoss whether or not she gets removed once I pass turn. At that point all I got was a 2 life burn for 4 mana. And even if she does survive, unless I drew the perfect hand and have my draw engine out before turn 4, or my opponent did, all she's doing is giving me a 4 life swing every turn (cuz at that point, boards are usually developed, so you're not risking attacking with her), which is pretty fair for a Legendary 4 drop. The ideal scenario in which Sheoldred is the deciding factor of the game is when me and my opponent both have our draw engines out for the lategame topdeck war, and they don't draw into their removal. This happens like 10% of my games.

Urzas Saga is an Enchantment. Big part of the reason new Boseiju is so good

Minor nitpick, when you mention "making as much mana as possible with bounce lands," bounce lands don't make extra mana since you have to return a land to your hand to play one. So turn 1, basic land, turn 2 bounce land, turn 3 basic land you have 3 mana available just as if you played a basic land 3 turns in a row. The use of bounce lands is to have access to more colors of mana, not more mana. Violent Outburst should get the banhammer because it hinders card design. Any card designed has to be viewed through a lens of "can it be abused by Violent Outburst," which used to be one of the key reasons to ban a card.

Unholy Heat? Not a chance…it’s far from broken. Requires other conditions to be met and isn’t nearly as versatile as lightning bolt as it can’t go dome. Most of the other picks are debatable. Grief/Fury in Modern would be the most obvious and Karn/Sheoldred in Pioneer. The others are highly unlikely imo.

3:33 The prof. Used this combo with the 6th Doctor instead in his latest Doctor Who Shuffle up and Play episode literally a few hours after this video was posted. BROKEN🤣🤣🤣

The One Ring needed to go immediately. I understand their push for it, but good lord. Sheoldred doesn’t even seem as bad, seeing as you can’t slot her into literally any deck like the ring. Violent Outburst doesn’t need to be hit. I feel like Footfalls has a good place in modern.

Isn't Urzas Saga an Enchantment too? So a sideboard with an enchantment removal should be fine to deal with it.

Grief is more likely to be banned than Fury. The play patterns are awful.

If my opponent is playing a companion I should get to look at their deck prior to the game. Not that I suspect people are cheating the requirements (I play arena where it isn't possible) but to add an additional downside to playing one. The way it is worded it would make sense that somebody playing one would have to reveal their deck. I play Jengatha in my boros convoke deck bc it is a free roll. If I had to reveal my deck I'd take it out. I almost never pay the 3 to get it and I don't think I've ever cast it.

Demolition Field against Urzas Saga?

Amazing!!!!🤩🤩🤩

Mastermind's Acquisition can fetch any card from exile or your sideboard

It missed grief and bowmasters.

If the one ring ever gets banned, they need to include a clause that the "true" one ring is not banned. One person has it, and they can choose to use it. I think it was post malone that bought it, but i never really checked.

Companions getting banned in vintage is because restricting them does nothing at all as they can still be ran in the companion slot since you don't have to draw them as you have them every game. If you had to draw into lurrus and such it would be a restriction target at most and is worse than a lot of other restricted cards.

One Ring and Reckoner Bankbuster (in standard( have shown that WOTC didn't learn its lesson from Smuggler's Copter. Strong, colorless, and repeatable card draw breaks format diversity.

Why is it that on Arena all LOTR cards are banned in standard?

I'll admit to not playing modern, but other than their cards - Karn is assuredly the worst! A four mana "answer everything" button is just wayyyy too good. Not to mention, unlike Sheoldred, there's basically no counterplay unless ya' (literally) counter him while he's being played. Plus, being colorless & fetching mostly colorless wishes, the deckbuilding cost is shockingly low.

Agatha's Cauldron. Cheap infinite combos shouldn't exist in Standard. They're gonna do the typical Wizards thing and ban cards around it instead of the actual problem.

Synthesizer is definitely powerful in pauper, but not ban worthy imo. Lotus petal and Monastery swiftspear, however, should get banned in pauper.

More or less I think the only card here I agree with is Fury. The evoke elemental cycle are all game warping in comparison to everything else on this list. They were by far the biggest mistake of Modern Horizons 2. Delver was an overtuned fair deck that gets broken by unfair card draw in the format. But the Evoke cycle prop up toxic play patterns, many times in unfair ways. Ah yes, getting double Thoughtsiezed stripping away answers and they simply get a beater on board too? Sounds cool. Oh, you cleared my board and are left with an actual damage threat too? Haha.. Yeah... _EXILED_ my creatures and you have a life linking stabilizer!? Heck even endurance is an overstatted menace that becomes gate keeper against graveyard decks... Subtlety is basically the only fair one. You also heavily up-talked how scary Urza's Saga is, when it has "Enchantment" tagged on for Force of Vigor and a ton of other cards so they gain the text "Strip Mine the Urza's Saga Player and Laugh."

The ring will not be banned until after it leaves printing, which lotr is evergreen; this means it will be legal for at least two more years. In fact, wotc even said they want it to be around for a while because it SHOULD be in as many decks as possible.

The problem with Sheoldred in standard is that if your deck has any black mana at all, you should be playing 3 or 4 copies. Period. And it loses any sense of fun after... 3 years (?) Before rotation.

Some players do definitely appreciate having 1 specific card be always available and playable even in a 60 card 1v1 format just because of the character on that card. If Companion isn't the way to do that, is there another way it could be done that is balanced?

It's probably because the shop I play at only has Commander on Fridays, but I never see anyone playing a deck with a companion, so I'm not sure who these people are that are complaining about them.

Sheoldred in standard has never felt oppressive to me tbh. Not all that hard to deal with imo

Don't get me wrong, I don't like Urza's Saga as a card, but the argument that it can't be interacted with is disingenuous. There are TONS of 1 and even 0 mana interactive spells which can deal with it, from Haywire Mite, to Force of Vigor, to March of Otherworldly Light, to Boseiju, Who Endures as a completely uncounterable way to deal with it. Not to mention Bloodmoon/Spreading Seas. I personally believe that Urza's Saga is a major problem as a card, but there ARE ways to answer it. The issue is that those ways are too format warping for a healthy meta.

Um... actully. Mirror of Fate can grab up to 7 face up exiled cards into your library. Now it's usully not used for that, but it can.

If murktide gets banned imma cry. I was surprised you didn’t touch on any of the efficient white removal like solitude, pending and binding but I guess exiling shit for cheap is what white does

Treasure Find will also bring back any card from exile

The one ring is fine. It hits the board until turn 4. If it hits faster, you need to ramp into it which means you are building your deck around it and that’s already restrictive. The problem is that modern right now is slow. It’s not a turn 4 meta anymore. If that was the case, the ring would be useless. Murktide regent can be dealt with by using graveyard hate.

The One Ring should have had a ward cost like Sauron.

You need to specify what format you speak on for each card. Because this was just confusing

UMM ACKTUALLY- Yeah, Kaya's emblem-in addition to being hard to pull off-only works on Legendary cards. Though I guess that means it would work on Karn...

I feel like ive heard this guys voice on like four different channels.

Break the Ice. works just fine for me vs urzas saga.

Can't enchantment destruction take out the saga as well?

"only 2 other cards can retrieve cards from exile" you forgot Kaya the Inexorable

The interaction between Cascade and Suspend spells bothers me a bit. It always seems to me like a card that doesn't have a casting card at all shouldn't be able to be hit by Cascade, because that's obviously not the same as a card having a casting cost of 0. But I guess it's just been ruled otherwise?

Mana Logs puts a video of cards that should be banned, considering Nerfed Versions from Alchemy/Historic and having the One Ring in 10th place. Just days later, The One Ring and Orcish Bowmasters receive a Alchemy Nerf

The problem with pitch spells is that to make them reasonably fair, you need to keep the card advantage higher than 1. Grief is a 2 for 1 using the evoke cost, and a 3 for 2 using scam. Still fair on card advantage. Fury is often a 2 for 2 using the evoke cost and can be a 2 for 4 or 3 for 8 using scam. Pyrokinesis also has the first problem, but it's basically a strictly worse version of fury, and it doesn't hit planeswalkers.

You guys know that you can target Urza's saga with enchantment removal as well? Which every Deck runs at least in sb. Besides that I really don't see any reason why Urza's Saga is on this list. The only two cards on this list, I would consider as banworthy are Karn and Ring. Maybe. But most likely not.

Urza's saga is definitely not the biggest problem in modern right now...

No bowmaster ban?

Agree with all except unholy heat. Yes 6 damage is a lot but there is a delirium requirement and also there are already better removal in the format like prismatic ending and fatal push so having an almost hard removal for red isn't too bad.

Honestly I never understood the fact that in later chapters of urzas saga you can still use earlier chapters it makes a little sense if like urborg or yavimya or what ever are out but the fact you can be like going to chapter three of urzas and be like i tap it for mana when no other saga does this😊

TLDR: Modern's broken and the Modern Horizon sets were a mistake

Urza's Saga is pretty busted, but can't you use enchantment removal on it since it's an enchantment? I think it's a little easier to interact with than the video made it out to be, but just because a card has answers doesn't mean it's fair. Card should probably go anyways

Cool video for the most part, but Saga is not as big of a bogeyman as you make it out to be. You kind of just ignored half of the type line and forgot to mention that it's an Enchantment as well as a land. It gets heavily punished by Force of Vigor, Wear and Tear, March of Otherworldly Light, etc etc, which all become above rate land destruction spells when targetting an Urza's Saga. Urza's Saga doesn't even make it to the top 50 most played cards in modern and you placed it at the top of your list, while The One Ring is the 7th most played card in the format (seeing play in nearly a third of all decks as of today) and you placed it 10th.

Legit stopped playing magic because every standard has a card that clearly hasn’t been through enough R&D. The game wants to keep draining your pockets but the lack of quality is a joke

Isn't it great how Wizards have nearly completely power crept out almost every fair deck in Modern and Legacy? Decks whose sole purpose is to punish unfair strategies THEMSELVES are being punished by unfair strategies, Thalia is unplayable against a Bowmasters/Fury meta and even actually unfair yet easily disrupted strategies like storm can't win against a two-drop that is universally maindecked. MH2 and LOTR have blown decks indicative of poor format health from being annoyingly overpowered to nigh unbeatable.

Basically cards printed right into modern have a way higher chance of being a problem

Karn ban for pioneer would be great It's a good ban ad it preserves the cards that make the deck iconic while also getting rid of degenerate play patterns. Karn also sees plenty of play outside of pioneer. To me pioneer is a format where cards can still have their time in the spot light even when they don't match up to current legacy or modern standards. This is the reason why I am absolutely for a karn ban but hesitant for a nyxthos ban.

I still have no idea how karn hasn't been banned anywhere. Its such a poorly designed planeswalker that a best of 1 sideboard had to be programmed in.

Jegantha has not been a problem in any game I’ve seen

The problem with The One Ring is in the text box they didn't say a deck can only have one in it. In The Lord of the Rings there was one ONE one ring.

Im surprised orcish bowmasters or grief wouldve been on this list. Would def prefer to see a grief ban pver fury

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