Real Talk About Mathematics Graduate School

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In this video I talk about mathematics graduate school. I talk about various factors that you should consider when applying to graduate school. These are practical considerations that I think are worth considering. I hope this helps someone out there. Do you have any grad school experiences or advice you want to share? If so, please leave a comment below.
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@navierstokes2356 Жыл бұрын

The size does matter. - The Math Sorcerer

@TheMathSorcerer Жыл бұрын

LOL

@chthe-e9706 Жыл бұрын

I’m really in love with math. Currently starting a degree in computer science and been following your channel for a long time now. Keep bringing the love of math to others my sorcerer! ❤️

@TheMathSorcerer Жыл бұрын

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@youMatterItDoesGetBetter 7 ай бұрын

How's the degree going? Just started my 3rd year myself.

@chthe-e9706 7 ай бұрын

@@youMatterItDoesGetBetter specializing in artificial intelligence by the time we speak :3; I hope you’re doing well

@treeleaf2089 6 ай бұрын

@@chthe-e9706 im a cs major too, i think i'll switch to math thought since i like it more, ai uses alot of math so you can prolly do both

@chthe-e9706 6 ай бұрын

@@treeleaf2089 indeed the perfect combo 👀

@jjstiller959 Жыл бұрын

You really enlighten people man.

@TheMathSorcerer Жыл бұрын

Thanks man. I hope this video helps people:)

@ChuffingNorah Жыл бұрын

When I did my Ph.D. in the UK, way back when, we luckily did not have to do extra examined classes. I don't know if this has since changed. You could attend any classes you wanted which were germain to your work, but it was never compulsorily. However, you were expected to produce a report at the end of each of the 3 years which had its own little Viva by a dept Prof. If you failed to pass muster each year, you were out on your ear. You really were on your own; none of that happy undergrad collegiate malarky; the only point of contact was a one hour per week meeting with your supervisor (If you were lucky!). My supervisor went on sabbatical for a year which really didn't help my plight. Getting a good supervisor is crucial in the UK. If they're duff you're struggling. I also supplemented my meagre grant from the Science Research Council by taking Maths tutorials with the undergrads & supervising Labs in Matlab & Physics. Happily, I passed my final Viva (after a rewrite) and got my Ph.D. But it was very much hard work, and you have to be really commited to earn your degree, shunning all distractions. Also, you have to decide very early on what it is you want to research; to waste time at the start is fatal. I know this is easy to say but I've known fellow students who have crashed out early as they didn't have a clear perspective on what they actually wanted to do. But such is the lonesome life of the Grad Student. I hope that wasn't too depressing!

@404TRUCKERTV Жыл бұрын

Certain careers like Math, Engineering Healthcare and Tech, really doesn't matter which school you attend because the skills are very respected and are in demand. Attending a decent top 50 state school would be enough.

@DavidRamirez-ww5kv 10 ай бұрын

I attended TexasA&M and graduated with a BS in Civil Engineering. It was hard but I overcame. Our mindset was that we were going to run the world because we would have the knowledge to solve society’s problems. Many people I knew in school, approximately 35% did not make it.

@winterrobot9605 Жыл бұрын

Awesome advice. One thing I've learned about trying to live up to parents' expectations, is that their expectations for you are formulated as if they're playing a Sims game. Usually very idealistic and very unrealistic. Always best to advocate for your own limits and abilities.

@dAntony1 Жыл бұрын

Good content. I'm in the process of applying for graduate schools for Mathematics right now. I agree with the content, there's for sure more to it than applying to the "best" school. I'm 30 years old finally finishing up my math degree and stability/location have become the most important to me, I'm not trying to move to an entire new state and start over again. I have a desire to move back home to be around family after being gone for about a decade now. All the programs I've applied to are fairly small compared to the biggest state schools. I can see why having the options with a large and diverse faculty is nice; however, I've come to like smaller programs since it's what's allowed me to build great relationships with the faculty which has been helpful when looking for recommendations, career advice, or just having good personal conversations. The only real downside I've run into with smaller programs is funding can dry up and when that happens research opportunities, non-required classes, or equipment gets cut. Anyways, I'm really excited to see if I any program will take me so I can start learning more.

@srikanthtupurani6316 Жыл бұрын

We should be able to estimate how much we can handle. We should be clear about that. There are students who passed phd course work with c grade but did excellent research. Anything can happen. In case of pure math we cannot judge students based on grades. Some strange things can happen like a student with c grade in subject may excell in that subject. Geniuses like terrence tao did such tough courses in princeton when he was just 16 years. He struggled in the course work and faced unpleasant things. Now is the top most mathematician in the world. Anyone who faces subjects like measure theory pointset topology for the first time won't be comfortable. Pure math takes time. We should not expect quick results.

@69erthx1138 Жыл бұрын

Appreciation/validity of pure maths is tough to come by indeed. As you address as well, people with real talent (like Tao) can be overwhelmed. I believe some of this lack of understanding resides in a social attitude, "the infamous blue collar attitude" toward anything involving theory, whether it be in maths or even philosophy. My friend Ryan, who's working on a 3rd PhD (his background is engineering/physics) has a stern opinion about pure maths, in his words "Pure math is a bunch of bullshit man...them maths has no application man, yeah man." He's from Dominica, so he has the Bob Marley sound. I was quick to tell him that he has little natural creativity, and no art appreciation to speak of, this may very well play into his "utilitarian attitude" toward pure maths.

@milesrout Жыл бұрын

I strongly disagree with this. A student getting Cs in maths has big problems and is definitely not ready to go further. That doesn't necessarily mean they'll never be ready, but they aren't ready yet.

@milesrout Жыл бұрын

@@69erthx1138 I'm sorry but nobody in the world is doing a 'third PhD'. Don't make up false stories online.

@69erthx1138 Жыл бұрын

@@milesrout Maintaining a kind and respectful attitude, I can't claim to know everyone in the world that's in a PhD program or how many PhDs they hold or are working to obtain. IMO, it's bit brash to make such a statement. And unless you actually know/know of my friend Ryan, your claim that I'm making up "false stories online" is rather presumptuous and quite rude. Oh, and just to mention, he's also a practicing dentist (as one of his doctorates is in dental materials research). So don't forget to brush/floss twice, very best.😁

@jloiben12 2 ай бұрын

I think this is even more important at the PhD level. The specific professors at the school is so important at the PhD level. It is hard to do the specific research you are interested in doing if no professor at that school does that research

@TheMathSorcerer 2 ай бұрын

Great comment thank you!

@AngelMedina-eh1rb Жыл бұрын

Wow! A lot of things in this video I haven’t considered. Very helpful advice because money and planning ahead in applying to graduate school is something that students think that will fall into their lap, but that isn’t true…. Great job in giving us a wake up call

@badonkadonk8212 Жыл бұрын

Based💪🏼 love ur content!

@chrisallen9509 Жыл бұрын

4:53 “Size does matter” Me: Damn… 😔 The Math sorcerer: …for graduate schools Me: So you’re saying there’s a chance…

@TheMathSorcerer Жыл бұрын

LOL!!!!! took me a second lol

@69erthx1138 Жыл бұрын

I used to dream of getting a PhD in applied maths from Princeton while I was sleeping in classes at UNF in the early 90's. Concerning the size of the department and your personal career goals, a larger (theory group) will usually give you much greater opportunity to get you work published.

@RoscoesRiffs Жыл бұрын

Brilliant. I earned a master's degree thanks to a full-ride fellowship in another discipline, and as was yours my experience was one of total immersion in the academics. During that 18-month stretch, I managed to do hard physical exercise daily, which helped me keep sharp during the late-night and wee hours of research, study, and academic composition. Also, I took a three-hour break one day, the day after the committee accepted my thesis, to watch ONE movie at a theater: ROBOCOP. I'm still amazed I read a book every single day -- about topics you couldn't drag me to be even slightly interested in today -- just to keep up. Grad school is a-whole-nother level of intensity. 😎

@RyanG3105 Жыл бұрын

Great content! I agree with weighing the program size a bit more heavily. If I were to change anything about my PhD experience (I would not because of relationships I made) I would have chosen a larger program.

@valeriopagnotta7873 Жыл бұрын

In Italy we have the so-called "3+2". A three year cycle of undergrad called "triennale" And a two year cycle called "magistrale" And only after you finish the secondo tranche you can try to pursue a PhD. I just finished my triennale and I have taken some classes of magistrale in a different university in the South. I have realizing, warching this video, that in my choice I have followed all the steps suggested by you. 😀

@MultiAndAnd Жыл бұрын

For undergraduates the best is having good teachers, which are not always the best matematicians. One should look for "the best places" just when one looks for a phd or a post doc in order to learn from the best and be "pushed" a little.

@ottoomen5076 Жыл бұрын

I'm feeling better about Zill's Differential Equations after getting through CH1. The chapters are getting better. The examples are very diverse. I had to review some integration by parts strategies!

@bookert2373 Жыл бұрын

I went to Berkeley in 1970 for grad school - people told me at the time Cal Tech had a smaller program which might limit one’s thesis topic choices. My experience was not the best - with 300 or so students, there was great competition to impress potential thesis advisors, leading to people not asking questions in class (you don’t want display any weakness) and professors who naturally sped through material to get to the ‘advanced’ stuff. It wasn’t Berkeley’s fault, it was mine for not realistically assessing my abilities at that time. I had my NSF Traineeship renewed for the second year, but I turned it down and got my PhD in a smaller program at another UC. Even though I had gotten straight A’s, taking 3 math course and German during my last 2 years as an undergraduate, I can’t agree more with the advice you should take a hard look at who you are as a student/learner when deciding on a graduate program.

@raul0ca Жыл бұрын

You mentioned Texas A&M. How can undergrads know how schools rank and which schools are good in what before they begin a search. Also maybe include a typical day for a math grad student at your university. Classes taking, classes instructing, meetings, studying, etc

@TheMathSorcerer Жыл бұрын

Search for NRC rankings in Mathematics, or, search for AMS group 1 and group 2 schools. Group 1 are the best. Group 2 are also very good. Hope this helps:)

@ianmorgan7906 Жыл бұрын

Could you make a video of where you went to grad school? And what you did research in?

@srikanthtupurani6316 Жыл бұрын

If students want to do lot of courses and want to learn math in the first 1.5 years of phd going to mit is better option than princeton. It depends on many things. Undergraduate students from mit are too good. They are capable of finishing phd in less than five years. They learn things in a hard way in their undergraduate course.

@aikidograndmaster1781 Жыл бұрын

Princeton does not require 4 classes , in fact the whole Masters and PHD program in Math does not require any classes ,Although most students take a class or 2 in their Theses area .First year graduate material is learned by students primarily through independent study ...This is all public knowledge , I am surprised you are not getting this stuff correct.....

@birdiewolf3497 Жыл бұрын

Idk about a large math department. For my undergrad I went to a school with a HUGE math "department" and department is in quotes because it was not actually a department it was a faculty. It was enormous and deeply impersonal. I wouldn't want that for grad school. The smaller the better honestly. Would love to have that connection that was missing in my undergrad.

@TheMathSorcerer Жыл бұрын

Great comment thank you !!!

@joshbullis2322 Жыл бұрын

I’m a senior rn about to finish my BS in math. I’d like to go to earn a masters/PhD but I’m scared I wouldn’t be able to handle difficulty of the program

@audxc Жыл бұрын

It will be challenging no matter where you go. If you are someone who can solely dedicate everything fibre of your being then apply to tough schools. If you are a normal person that is well adjusted apply to schools where you will be happy with the faculty and Living situation. Hope this helps!

@corbinwilson3781 Жыл бұрын

Hello, I’m currently a math major in my sophomore year of undergrad. I’m 18 and honestly I really love calculus, it’s the reason why I chose math over engineering. The math itself is fun and also I don’t care for physics. I am currently going to a junior college (2 year college) but I know after this summer I will have to transfer to a University. I live in Arizona so I was thinking ASU or U OF A. However I’m worried about funding as I don’t want to finish college off with a lot of student debt. I’ve been looking at online options as well thinking that it might help with tuition and housing prices. Any advice for students in my position?

@mikelolis3750 Жыл бұрын

These graduate school videos are always helpful. I am a senior pure math undergraduate student from Greece and this winter I will be applying to grad schools in the US and getting a bit of insight from people who have actually attended is very nice. I wanted to ask you ( or any other commenters who feel like helping out) how important the GRE general test is for the process. A lot of the unis don't require it ( or just flat out don't accept it) and the TOEFL and GRE Math tests have already cost me a lot of money. Do you think I should take it nonetheless or will its absence not really hurt my application? Thank you for the advice ( sorry for the long comment lol)

@TheMathSorcerer Жыл бұрын

You should take it since some schools require it. Unless of course you are only applying to schools that don’t need it.

@wafaalajmi4289 Жыл бұрын

@@TheMathSorcerer Which one do you suggest to take, the general or the math one?

@dpandit8565 Жыл бұрын

Hi, Is it possible to get into decent MS math programs either pure math or applied with someone with BS in information technology with AS in Math( Cal 1,2,3, Linear algebra, Differential Equation, Discrete Math ) Thank you for the great content as always!

@ezrixb2349 Жыл бұрын

Preparing (a few years in advance) for applying to grad school. Do you have any advice for students who wish to study abroad? Also, I’m not sure if you’re aware of the channel CHALK with Nathan, but he’s got a lot of excellent math grad school related content. Might be worth a look if you’re interested in making more content for would-be math grad students, or really for anyone looking for more advice.

@TheMathSorcerer Жыл бұрын

Oh cool I will check out that channel. Hmm studying abroad is harder. I looked into it when I was applying but it seemed harder to get funding. It's doable, but it takes more research and work I think.

@dimitrioskalfakis Жыл бұрын

well said with bitter truths for any science/engineering major :-(

@1jamesreed Жыл бұрын

Is there a report for statistics departments similar to AMS for math departments? Thank You? DO you have a phd?

@javiermd5835 7 ай бұрын

I’m glad in Europe it’s a lot more straightforward.

@Lokie-cd2hw Жыл бұрын

What are your thoughts on a M.A. vs M.S. in mathematics, especially as a terminal degree?

@TheMathSorcerer Жыл бұрын

There is no real difference I think. I've looked at various programs and I haven't noticed a difference at all.

@mokamoka9048 Жыл бұрын

Can you talk about students loan after graduation and how possible that could be repaid?

@sifatahmed1413 Жыл бұрын

Love from Bangladesh

@adnanpz7465 Жыл бұрын

Sir please make a similar video for BS Physics or Physics graduate program that how much math should we learn being a physics graduate?

@ashharkausar413 Жыл бұрын

ALOT.

@anniesizemore3344 Жыл бұрын

I have really gotten into math. Watching a lot of videos on calculus. I set up an account on a university in the state to fill out applications for non degree classes. They told me I could take 4 classes as a non degree student. I plan to take all math classes and see how it goes. They told me the classes would prepare me for the BS education program. Told me they'd look at my transcripts then and get it set up. I really only want the math classes.

@W81Researcher 24 күн бұрын

BS? Not grad?

@anniesizemore3344 24 күн бұрын

@@W81Researcher I'm not sure if you are replying to me but it sent me a notification. I'm happy with a BS in education with specialization in math program. I'm also happy just taking math classes on Udemy and taking classes as non degree student online at colleges in my state. Its not like I ever intend to teach it. I just want to do it for the math classes and because I like to keep busy with some project

@W81Researcher 24 күн бұрын

@@anniesizemore3344 this is about grad school. So you will need a grad degree to be a college instructor/prof.

@anniesizemore3344 24 күн бұрын

@@W81Researcher So? I was probably commenting on something he said in the video when I made that other comment about college looking at my transcripts and taking all the math classes I can take. I probably wasn't necessarily commenting on graduate school. I only want a degree to teach algebra to junior high or high school kids

@W81Researcher 24 күн бұрын

Is university of tennessee chattanooga a deadend masters option given its in a phd system?

@HiiImChris Жыл бұрын

im just curious how many hours per day do you generally do math related works? and what is it split up into? like do you just pick random subjects to practice? OMG what if, ok hear me out, you have a freaking jar with a variety of really random subject matter questions and you pick a random one and see if you can solve it without being able to touch up on the subject

@TheMathSorcerer Жыл бұрын

the jar idea sounds fun:)

@Elodie70786 Жыл бұрын

Am first again

@drticktock4011 6 ай бұрын

It's about the prof/person you want to work with...not the school (name). People in the (research) know will know.

@W81Researcher 24 күн бұрын

So how do I find them?

@drticktock4011 23 күн бұрын

@@W81Researcher what do you want to study? Then try to find schools and then prof that showcase articles. It will take some time to get a feel for who is doing what and who does it well. It's like going to a party...you don't know anyone and those people have been having ongoing conversations for years. It'll take a little time and work on your part.

@W81Researcher 23 күн бұрын

@@drticktock4011 mathematics. Pure math

@W81Researcher 23 күн бұрын

@@drticktock4011 I would like to research real analysis. UTK didn't think my Math grades and classes were strong enough. Even though I had only three non As.

@Elodie70786 Жыл бұрын

I will always be first

@TheMathSorcerer Жыл бұрын

so fast!

@Elodie70786 Жыл бұрын

I watch almost all of your videos 👌👌👌👌