Don't come with this bullshit Marquéz was at that time was a lightweight and Mayweather was a Welter a lot of fucking weight...

You are forgetting, Floyd cheated for this fight! Fraud, er, i mean Floyd DELIBERATTLY came in 5 Ibs over weight for their agreed upon catch weight limit, hence, he was much bigger than Marquez when they entered the fight!

Mayweather cheats and all his fights are fake. You can't pretend he is a real boxer when he just cheats every time he gets in trouble, bends down and puts his entire upper body and back of his head to the opponent. It's basically exiting the ring and nobody seems to have a problem with it because people are dipshits.

"But Floyd was back in form in the next few rounds." No he was back to avoiding shots by cheating.

Man......do I ever feel like a jerk now. Haha. A minor blemish on an excellent video. You have nothing to be ashamed of.

There's a really good book on that out there. ;-)

@@jamielondon6436 what's it called

@@MBUOffical Footwork Wins Fights by David Christian.

Every time I finish sparring it astonishes me how he could avoid being hit so much. People don't realize how hard that is

Even if I don't like him, I have to give the deserve credit where it belongs.

To be honest ever since this fight happened Marquez applied some of the science behind this fight with Floyd and realizing the some of the strategic footwork; hence he later applied that in the 4th fight with Pacquiao by knocking him out

Nah, you're wrong. The fight that looks more impressive as time passes is the victory or Canelo. Canelo is arguably the best P4P now, and Mayweather made him look downright silly. Class dismissed!

@@mollkatless Agreed

Respect you!

@@mollkatless respect to you!

I like pac man BUT HE KNOCK HIM THE FK OUT

If study their history they shouldn't have a 4th fight. 4th fight is unusual in boxing

@@maivveatherjr9821 cause Pacquiao is a risk taker

@@lightningjimmyjoejohnson8499 pacquiao never had a decisive win against marquez that is why he felt obliged to give him rematches.

@@mr.brightside6576 that’s the thing. Marquez was arguably Pacquiao’s biggest rival due to how close their fights were. You could say Pacquiao felt obliged to give Marquez numerous rematches, but he chose to fight his toughest rival when he could have fought somebody else who didn’t give him as much problems.

His reflexes and react time. Were unforreal. Even in his late 30s he was still faster then everyone!

I think it's more like preemtive prediction rather than just relex. He limits his opponent's attacking options with his usual defensive stance and predict where they will strike next, thus being able to react before the strikes come. He is probably the best boxing tactician ever.

@@aclock2 it’s both, because against pacquiao (at 38) he showed, while he can still be affective when his reflexes deteriorate, it’s not the same… and it’s noticeable!!

But he limited his opponents' weapons. Boxing is trash compared to mma. Where he would die.

@@Delt4_Cr4wfish He would just employ a different defensive tactic for MMA.

@@KickingAssDaily come on it's not 2 kilos that will give you that much of a advantage

@@TheChattounet dude your a fool mayweather sure fooled you dummies Marquez came up like 2 or more weight classes he never fought that heavy ever in his life that’s why he was so slow mayweather came in even heavier cause he couldn’t make weight or didn’t bother to make weight. So on fight night Marquez was overweight and fat and Floyd was at his natural weight he probably outweigh Marquez by 10-15 lbs

@@TheChattounet marquez gained 17 pounds, and was in the wrong weightclass

@@thore589 true but it was with this weight that he ko'ed pacquiao. So he was still a very dangerous fighter

He gave Marquez a boxing seminar the same way he did Canelo with 15+ lbs weight advantage using pure bboxing skills

Man me too. It never gets old

old man Dmato was too fast with that counter straight and body jab

you have to pair the mental side with floyds condition - he was always, always in such perfect shape for his fights if he could help it. he was a complete maniac with his physicial conditioning, he loved to train extremely hard to be the best. you put his mind on top of that and boom, you have the perfect boxer. best boxer ever. he really was the best ever, I think.

@@phaeryen Yes, Floyd never quit training. He trained every day, regardless of if he was fighting or not. He also never drank, never smoked and ate a clean diet. Most fighters were constantly yo-yoing in weight, which is terrible for your body, but Floyd was like a thoroughbred. He always stayed in fight shape, so as the fight went on, he stayed strong as his opponents faded into helplessness. You can see a great example vs MacGregor. Floyd could attack at will when Connor couldn't even raise his hands anymore.

That's not true, you gotta remember they have a corner that helps them pick out their tactics. Not taking anything away from him.

@@Legend354.Floyd was an instinctive & high IQ boxer so he didn’t need much coaching, he just knew what to do & wouldn’t listen if they didn’t have the right advice. But if u watch Roger in the corner a lot of times he just said “just keep doin’ whatcha doin’” 😂

You don't watch enough boxing, it happened many times

@@justvibing2497 i prolly understand what im watching better than you tho.

@@david.amuiki you clearly don't lol

@@justvibing2497 yea well i wont waste time debating with a keyboard warrior that prolly doesnt even understand whats going on in a boxing match, have a great day and keept fighting with your screen !

@@david.amuiki I'm not trying to disrespect, just stating my opinion. If it bothers you that's your problem, I would say the same thing to your face. You think I'm attack you because you see what I write, but if you see my expression you will clearly see I'm just saying my opinion respectful. I feel you don't shit about boxing that's it, saying oh internet warrior is first grade. I don't get your angle broski, understand that you can't let people opinion make you emotional lol

why dont jus marry floyd n move to San Fransico

u fool, sounds like u cant defend urself

Bradley?

@@itbeonlikedonkeykong, ahhh. No

Yawn

He cherry picked Marquez knowing he was going to make Marquez come up a few weightclasses so he would be slow, Marquez only settled into welterweight after he fought more frequently at welter vs pac

Floyd got hit some in this fight in some of the close range exchanges in the earlier rounds but he adjusted.

@@Ap-nv1hk He was out of the ring for almost two years and this fight was supposed to be with Pacquaio who was ranked as the #1 pound for pound & Marquez came in second. This was in 2009 when everyone started to ask for the Mayweather vs Pacquaio fight and that’s what Mayweather tried to do but when Bob Arum stopped it he took the second best. By the way Pacquaio & Marquez were the same size but everyone claimed that Mayweather cherry picked Marquez & at the same time they were asking for the Pacquaio fight!!! Also you have failed to mention that Marquez was the one who called out Mayweather. A cherry pick indeed…lol

@@crypto2162 exactly...these tards are delusional.

@@Ap-nv1hk boy stop being a hater he didn't cherry pick

Especially after sitting out of the ring for 48 months etc.. Floyd Mayweather is unique and built for the sport on a champion level.

@natturner-xo2rb Do you think Floyd or Marquez didn’t juice 😭.

Floyd’s prime was 2001-2006. He was on top 10 years after his prime.

@@moneymoney5431 true. A fighter can be dominant out of prime. Look at George Foreman and Archie Moore. But he still didn't Fight anyone when they were in their primes

No. His win against Marcos Maidana in the rematch and José Luis Castillo in the rematch… Those were much more impressive wins

u fool, u probably get wet dreams about floyd, LOL

@@noemoreno2635 you're mad he whooped your boy

Because Floyd trains year round regardless. Still amazing. Only Floyd and Jordan can take two years off. Come back in their 30s. And be the best again. It's inhuman.

mayweather was a welterweight and marquez was a lightweight,mayweater made him move up 2 divisions!!!then he had the nerve to not make weight,mayweather just wants to run away to a decision.

@@fernandoharo8357 this is false. It was Marquez who offered to come to 147 in the post fight with his bout with Diaz. They then agreed to 144 with a penalty clause for coming in over 144 but still the 147 max was in place. Floyd was at 146 so he hit weight...but he didnt hit contracted weight and marquez chose to take the 600k instead of telling floyd to go sit his ass in a sauna. And Marquez himself said he would never be able to beat floyd...the weight didnt matter.....and u clearly didn't see the fight as floyd stood in front of Marquez alot in this fight Dont lie

@@fernandoharo8357 he’s not a welter he picked that weight to fight at

Answer:it wasnt easy at all , but floyds a fighter like all the other fighters and beat him with his mind and heart , gave a master a masterclass in boxing skills alone

@@fernandoharo8357 you forgot to say Mayweather came from super featherweight, but when Floyd fought Canelo, nobody ever said that Canelo was naturally bigger than Floyd, Floyd and Marquez was closer to weight than Mayweather and Canelo, so let’s keep gearing excuses,

Man it’s always an excuse with Floyd y’all said manny can beat Floyd but manny and Marquez had 3 wars and the 4th time manny went to sleep Floyd beat Marquez easily I don’t care about Marquez moving up in weight or nun of that Henry Armstrong held titles in 3 different weight classes at the same time hall fund and excuse every time it’s cloudy he beat cabelo at 36 canelo was too young but Oscar beat Chavez sr at 23 u clowns wasn’t saying nun

This kind of argument rests on whether you're on a certain side of the weight class vs skills debate. To me, the making weight point is a very moot, nit-picky slight on Floyd's win. It guarantees nothing. Contracted, I understand is a legality issue but the fight itself, was pure tactical superiority. It's not like Marquez would've magically landed the shots he missed if only he was a bit lighter. Floyd is just that much better. You don't move up weight classes just because you gained weight like it's a right of passage, obviously, skill is king. Marquez fought great fight I'm sure anyone else at the time would've been trapped in a brawl with Marquez if they fought him that day. Marquez knows Floyd is just on a different. Look it up, hear what he says himself about Floyd.

A year off of boxing isn’t long. Over 2 is and if anyone ever boxed. Changing weight is a big factor especially when it’s a higher weight. So a lot of factors can be put in play but overall skill and experience is what made them almost even despite those physical factors

@@c.galindo9639 he was out for nearly 2 years (21 months) before this bout.

@@c.galindo9639 they were almost even in skills and experience though Floyd had an edge there as well. They were not even in size speed or styles for the match up.

Not for me. Mayweather fought an inflated lightweight and mayweather also missed weight which takes away from the victory. Mayweather looked huge compared to Marquez and Marquez never had the style that would trouble mayweather anyways. Marquez had to fight aggressive cutoff the ring and throw volume, that wasn’t Marquez style. Counter puncher vs pure boxer the pure boxer will win unless the counter puncher has the power to put the boxer away.

@OshawaStateOfMind eventually you will realize Mayweather himself is an “inflated lightweight”. Marquez is just short. Frame for frame there really isn’t much of a difference.

@@SlMBA. mayweather was the bigger fighter there’s no debating that. That’s like saying Tommy hearts and mayweather are the same size but tommy is just taller.

@@OshawaStateOfMind you are missing the point Floyd turned professional at 130 pounds hes not a legitimate welterweight. Tommy Hearns won a world title at light heavyweight.

@@SlMBA. Floyd moved up in his 20s bro and had a bigger frame to grow into, look at the weigh in for mayweather vs Marquez

You're completely wrong... Marquez went up to 147 chasing Pacquiao for a 3rd fight... He called out Mayweather in hopes of beating him to force a 3rd fight with Pacquiao...

It's called a pull counter.

Better breakdown would be either Hopkins vs Trinidad or Wright vs Trinidad.

As far as today’s boxing goes he is seen as a master but throughout boxing history. He is a boy amongst men like many other boxers today

@@c.galindo9639 I wouldn't say he's a boy. He's not the most skilled boxer true and he's overrated but "boy"? I don't know.

@@haroldpierce3270 compared to the entire history of boxing he is a boy

@@c.galindo9639 Floyd is top 5 all time. His boxing is in the history books. The only boxers who have arguments against him are Ray Robinson, Ray Leonard and Ali. He is EASY inside the top 5.

@@moneymoney5431 top 5 based on people who go by hype and record more than performance and skill level. He wouldn’t rank amongst top 10 realistically against the best of the best boxers ever

This was around the same time when Manny-Floyd fight interest was picking up steam and Manny was as more or less the same size as Marquez… and then Marquez competed at 147 after the Floyd fight and KO’d Manny as well…

​@@AyeYoBoxingWithMadiba Let me Educate You. Floyd moved to 147 in 2006 while Pac and Marquez was still at 130. . - March 2008: Pac vs Marquez fought the 2nd time at 130 - July 2008: Pac fought at 135 for the first time - September 2008 Marquez fought at 135 for the first time - December 2008 Pac fought Dela Hoya at 147 . Pac from 2008 to 2010 fought at 130, 135, 140, 147 and 154 while collecting Belts . Why would Floyd who is been at 147 for more than 3 yrs picked Marquez who just moved from 130 to 135 less than a year at 135 to fight him at 147? . . Remember a 42 yrs old Pac in 2021 who is a natural lightweight who was inactive for more than 2 years? - - - Did Pac decided to fight someone at 135? Pac go after The TOP Welterweights . - Spence pulled out from the fight. . - Prime Floyd who is a natural 147 decided to cherrypicked Marquez who just moved from 130 - 135 to fight him at 147. lol . . You see the difference? . . ESPN First Take - Floyd Mayweather Jr Had Banned IV Before Pacquiao Fight! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h8eUlcibmsCchJ8.html . TMT - The Medication Team . .#xylocaine #lidocaine #illegalIV2015 #lowTEratio

@@Drifter101z I already gave you the reason why Floyd fought Marquez: 2008 is when the talks of a Manny-Floyd started because Manny had just defeated De La Hoya at 147, who Floyd beat in 2007. So when Floyd came back after two years of inactivity, he choose to fight Marquez. Marquez was ranked 3rd P4P at the time and was seen as more or less Manny’s biggest rival. Manny jumped to 147 from 135 to fight an non-prime De La Hoya and everyone praises Manny for daring to be great. But when Marquez does the same thing (jumping to 147 from 135) to fight Floyd, you criticize Floyd for it and don’t give Marquez credit. Why is there a double standard lol? And you do realize that Floyd is a naturally smaller guy as well, who started his career at 130 lol? Manny, Floyd and Marquez all started at lower weights but moved up and competed, and ended their careers at 147. So when you talk about weight, why is it only a positive thing when it comes to Manny but negative when it comes to Marquez and Floyd lol? Next time you try to have an argument with someone, please be concise and come with facts. You’re being to biased

@@AyeYoBoxingWithMadiba Nope 2008 was not the year people wanted to see Floyd and Pac. U need to know the TIMELINE . Pac fought Dela Hoya in December 2008 - So early 2009 was the year when people started talking about Pac vs Floyd. . Remember what happened in May 2009 during the weigh in of Pac vs Hatton??? Do you know? . Floyd received a lot of Hate by announcing his fight against Marquez during the Weigh ins of Hatton vs Pac, . . If Floyd Started at 130 then dont forget Pac started at 106. lol But thats not how u analyz their natural weight weight. its not smart. . Is Floyd a natural superfeather weight (130) in 2009? . Would it be Ridiculous for FLoyd to fight someone at 130 in 2009 just because he started at 130 more than a decade ago in 1996. lol It doesnt make sense. . BTW you dont chose your next opponent base on the Pound for Pound Rankings. . . lol It consist of fighters from different weight Divisions. . Its like Usyk choosing the No. 1 Pound4Pound right now who is Inoue. . . lol . Why Pick someone at 135 while theres a lot of fighters calling out FLoyd at 147. lol .

@@Drifter101z Manny-Floyd after Manny beat De La Hoya (December of 2008), which still means it started in 2008… but arguing over the particular start date doesn’t really matter because the idea of a Floyd-Manny fight still started after the Manny-De La Hoya fight, which is what I stated lol. Floyd receiving hate for announcing a fight is a normal reaction from his detractors so I don’t what point you were trying to prove with that lol. And no, Floyd isn’t a natural 130 in 2009, but he was still a naturally smaller 147 since he came up 4 divisions rather than starting at 147. I have addressed all your argument points/questions and I have already gave you a reason why Floyd fought Marquez (which is backed by what Floyd said himself), but yet you strawman my argument and deflect the questions I ask you. So let me ask again, why is there a double standard for Manny going up to 147 from 135 and Marquez going up to 147 from 135? Why is weight only a positive thing for Manny but negative for Marquez and Floyd? Please don’t duck these questions 😂

Well, it *does* have obvious flaws, chiefly the lack of lateral head movement to one side (as well as lateral movement in general being more restricted) and a heavy reliance on straight punches (hooks don’t have as much behind them due to the narrow, bladed stance). That said, a good fighter knows his own weaknesses and works around them-same as in most any fighting style. Like most everything, there’s a give and take.

all guards have their flaws!

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@@HAYAOLEONE m she u

Lol Mexicans smh

Always hating on black fighters. The reason Floyd won is because he's better dummy

Exactly. Floyd fanboys will ignore this fact. Only special boxers can move up in weight and be successful. Marquez ain't that guy.

You forgot to mention that Floyd was away for almost 2 years and that evens it out .

Not the only

@@BadselS who then else

@@Kkiller1rt Bob Fitzsimmons won titles at middleweight and heavyweight. We can also include James Toney but his win over Ruiz was overturned.

He beat nobody.

Yeah yeah its a criticism that has some merit, some even discount the amazing win entirely which is absurd, but the fact remains no one ever did this to Marquez not before or after not even at this weight when marquez officially moved up the following 3-4 years after this, its also worth noting Floyd has literally never weighed more then 150 for like any welterweight fight, heck against Canelo he was like 152 -154 max and Canelo was 167 for example and that was at Junior middle officially, this welterweight fight like had Floyd weighing in at 148 for Marquez max! still a demerit to technically keep it from being perfect for sure but enough to discredit or make this anything less than an amazing win absolutely not. I know what ya mean though and yes Floyd was wrong to break that 144 contract intitally.

@@danielhicks4826 I don’t think it wipes out the achievement but it’s one of many reasons Floyd will never be the pure fighting champion I see in others of the era. Everything was calculated to inflate his victories even though post De La Hoya it was a business insuring that every decision he made would result in wins that would keep people questioning his skill. Waiting for Manny to age, fighting very young or very old and not prime fighters. It’s a shame because Floyd is a legend and I can’t really get down with him.

@@goforward8697 Yah I know what your saying I got ya, I just look at it like this, that all just means he's not Ray Robinson, or Archie Moore, or Ali, and several others, bu5t he still at the end of the day has a great resume regardless even if it could have been even better- and it could have been- it's still pretty much better then just about everyone else in his era and the one dude who maybe has a better resume than him- Pac- he also beat post prime or not- personally I blame both for those failed bs negotiations in 2010 both sides egos refused to budge Pac over some Npo I won't do testing 2 weeks out from fight night crap and Floyd his usual antics, so that one went both ways far as i'm concerned, but yeah Floyd missed a few fights that woulda moved him up even more, but even in a lot of the fights people call"cherry picks" for example fact is most of those guys were either title holders or top 2-10 rated at the time faced which means there anywhere from okay to good to great tro elite wins anyways as is. I cant put him above a Robinson or Ali or Moore and several others though absolutely not, but still makes him one of the best ever in the end anyways could be top 20 at worst more likely top 10 and ya dont get that high without having a very very very good resume or a great one in the end even if it could have been even better ya know what I mean. I think the only fighters of the past 40 years who for sure or probably had better resume then Floyd for example would be lets see Holyfield/Hopkins, maybe Roy Jones jr, though even he gets some crap for his resume at times even though its also incredibly good really even with him missing the big 4 fights at super middle of the era, then Delahaoya probably, Pac I suppose, and i'd say he and Whitakers resumes are either about tied or one has a slight edge over the other, I could be missing a few? but point is even with the what could have beens and what he should have done and his unfortunate personality/choices at times, he still in the end does in fact have a great resume and one thats literally still better than 9 out of 10 fellow greats of his era. I do know what ya mean though. It really is a shame he didn't get to face Mosley even from a few years prior or Delahoya as well to, but then again same goes for Pacx who faced significantly worse way more faded versions of those 2, but he also faced like Bradley 3 times and marquez 4 times and etc etc but just saying for example that particular thing with them went both ways, but Pacs other fights likely off set those post prime faded wins of his own in Mosley and Delahaoyas case, where as at least Floyd got to face a version of them that had some left at least ya know.

@@goforward8697 Fella, what you're doing is called dry hating; hating on someone while pretending to be complimenting them. First, if you knew much about fighting or ever actually boxed, you would know that there is NOTHING that you can do to "inflate" a victory outside of the ring. You either win or you lose, INSIDE of the ring. Second, how do you wait for an opponent 3 years younger than yourself to "get old"? All of you haters who always tell that lie never seem to acknowledge the fact that Mayweather is 3 years OLDER than Pacquaio. Also, if Pacquiao was so damned OLD when Mayweather beat him, how is it that a 40 year old Pacquaio was able to soundly beat a 28 year old Keith Thurman 4 years AFTER Mayweather beat Pacquaio? Second, you're trying to downplay and make excuses for Mayweather beating Canelo by claiming that he "fought very young" fighters. Fella, Canelo Alvarez was an undefeated champion with a record of 42-0-1 before he fought Mayweather. He was the most dangerous fight and fighter Mayweather could have fought at the time, he moved up 2 weight classes to do it and Alvarez still came in outweighing him by 15 pounds and got schooled. If he was "too young", and "not ready", how was he undefeated up to that point, and stayed undefeated for 8 years AFTER Mayweather beat him? How come he wasn't "too young" or "not yet in his prime" enough for all those other guys he beat? Your excuses are bullshit. As far as anyone questioning Mayweather's skill, again, this simply shows that you don't know boxing. People say a lot of things about Mayweather, some true, some not. However, no serious critic questions his skill.

@@acroyerx1193 haha no champ. It’s wet hating. I don’t like the man’s persona or his legacy. It was wormy. What I never criticized was his skill. He’s one of the best ever. I’m just not a fan of the way he played the game. A lot of old school fans feel that way about him. I hope that doesn’t upset you too much.

Sounds interesting. I would like to see that breakdown too

@@c.galindo9639 kzfaq.infocz9FBz6ncbM

I want to see him breakdown Maidana's legendary schooling of broner.

There is one already on KZfaq

@@DragonHeart613 there is a breakdown on KZfaq by another channel

​@@claycox3627 what's the channel?

@@mr.soystein7849 The channel's name is OfficeHanchoBoxing. The video about Maidana vs Broner is here : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o8VllZiHycq5mZc.html It's a very good channel, with great videos about Floyd vs Ortiz and Floyd vs De La Hoya, and many other fights.

yes agreed, sure Floyd fought a great technical fight, but the weight difference was huge and stylistically Marquez worked right into his wheelhouse (he had no choice against a bigger faster oppont) it has to be the first thing mentioned in this fight.

Floyd was way smaller than canelo Diego corrales Phillip ndou gatti!!! But u clowns don’t say shit !!! Hell y’all wanted him to knock out Logan Pauls 6ft 3 215 pound ass too y’all a have an excuse about Floyd everytime so wasn’t this around the same time y’all wanted Floyd to fight manny soon as Floyd won y’all woulda used this same excuse

But Floyd was so scared of Pacquiao that he retired multiple times and waited until Pacquiao lost a few steps before being man enough to fight him.

@@jmarra07 isn't Mayweather older than Manny?

@@jmarra07 Mayweather is older.

Same. Saw it live. A true masterclass

But all those fights are very close it could gone either way (if not robbery). Yet Floyd trashed Marquez like he's no BIG DEAL. Critics are using the size as an excuse but Marquez also move up 2 division and knock Manny Pacquiao out years later. Melvin Magramo move up 4 division and give Pacquiao a beating that most people believes that Magramo was robbed. (I hope that there's a video of that fight so I could judge it myself)

He knows, literally every single legendary fighter except mayweather and like 4 others 3 who have far far less quality resumes lose some fights it dont mean much, dont think he claimed he was undefeated to? Marquez resume speaks for itself no shame at all in him losing to Chrisa John or Norwood and the first fight dq loss in 93 totally irrelevant as well ya know.

@@danielhicks4826 IIRC, he said Marquez was undefeated. No shame in those losses, either. I've heard the John loss was a pretty bad robbery as well.

@@mattysquizzato7094 Did he? totally missed that. huh.

@@danielhicks4826 Yeah, I think so. He even made a correction in the comments section.

Ngl, I think everyone has a "i hate Floyd" phase, at this point you have to hate him before you love him. I know I did. lol

@@ren_lightfoot Nah everyone don’t got that.

Great boxer? Lol he was THE greatest and I'm not even his biggest fan

@@bunnyban5365 Disagree on that, but there's way too many metrics - and too many great fighters - out there for everyone to ever agree on that, I suppose. :-)

It’s not easy to understand. Only insecure racists tend to have an issue with him.

@@ritzkola2302 I don't think so, namely since most elite boxers are black, though it may play a role for some. I think it's at least in part his abrasive persona (whether that's real or acted) … and perhaps the fact that he's just that good that he must have beaten quite a few people's personal favourites. :-)

@@jamielondon6436 I know so, most elite Black fighters are hated too. And the persona excuse is just confirmation. Whites loved connor. He was the biggest star in the ufc because of his persona. Even white Americans. I was in the army and watched all the whites say connor was going to beat Floyd when they fought. The Black fighters that get the most love are the ones that died decades ago (for obvious reason: they didn’t beat anyone whites cared about and whites today weren’t around to hate them for whatever excuse they could think of) & dudes like Mike Tyson who says everything they want to hear (he’s made his waves attacking other Black fighters and giving all his life’s praise to a white dude and in general talking like he was raised white the stuff he says is weird and we don’t relate to much of it in our community but white communities resonate with it). Amongst those Black fighters he’s attacked is Floyd. No surprise when racists are quoting things to disrespect Floyd they flock to one of Tyson’s quotes. Naseem Hamed Wasn’t hatred for his persona. And he’s a foreigner. There’s no angle this can be taken where a double standard isn’t applied and goal posts aren’t moved. It is what it is. But I digress, it’s not easy to find a reason to hate him. That quote mainly belongs to racists.