Hi, asking again if you have seen the Japanese movie Uzumasa Limelight? I think you would like it. It is about an old Japanese stuntman, who specializes dying in swordfights, teaching a young actress to perfom swordfights, and the changing times in the film indrustry. You can find it on KZfaq if you haven't watched it yet

@@jtilton5 I’ve heard of it but I haven’t seen it 🙂

@@JillBearup it's avalible now on KZfaq, as well as some streaming services, I think you will enjoy it.

@@jtilton5 It's a truly lovely film, and do recommend it as well.

@@jtilton5I'm definitely going to watch it this week, so thank you in advance for the recommendation. I'm looking forward to seeing it.

Well said!

I also do armoured medieval combat and a couple other other martial arts, and I have the highest respect for stage combatants. I've done enough dance and attempted enough katas to realize I am TERRIBLE at being choreographed. It's competely different skills than actual combat, and though most of my medieval combat is done for an audience (we're a relatively small group and we haven't figred out how to "score" matches without people gaming the system and sniping for hits that might not make sense in a real fight, so we let the audience decide if it's not evident to the combatants and the marshall), something choreographed would probably be a better show than us just trying to smash each other around. How to fight and potentially hurt people is a COMPLETELY different set of skills from how to fight and NOT hurt people. Doing a two-person kata with boken (wooden pactice swords) on the mats in the dojo is far more terrifying to me than going up against someone twice my size while I'm protected by my armour if I zig instead of zag because I'm trying to remember to do THE thing instead of just reacting and doing A thing.

What is a HEMA?

@@jannarkiewicz633 Historical European martial arts

I did a bit of amateur stage stuff (Renn fair shows, mostly) and one of the big things our instructor/manager taught was "telegraphing." You always did your best to telegraph the next move so your stage partner would know where you were going next. In a HEMA fight, this would get you chewed to pieces because your opponent would be able to read your moves and counter. HEMA and Stage Combat are not the same beast, and if you mistake the actor for a real fighter, then they've pulled off the illusion well.

I stir fried panoumi cheese and tofu yesterday with just some garlic salt. I put the tofu in the toaster oven to dry out enough for it. Just amazing.

my tummy thinks there IS such thing as too much cheese. however, my mouth disagrees fervently 😂

🧀

Agreed!!! More cheesy notation!!!...wait...More notation AND cheese?...hmm...got it...More notation! More cheese!

Hear, hear

And incited a bunch of fan fiction before it was ever a book! And I love the chaotic nature it came about so much. Jill deserves every success from it and I’m so glad thousands of us agree.

Amazing how that happened, am I right? I don't think she expected to have that happen either Life is truly strange

Captain.

To me that rather sounds like bloody good exercise!

Very interesting point, and I would point to the moving towards antiheros than traditional heros as one of the main reasons.

@@NemisCassander I'm not sure ... I can read it both ways. Either it's the antihero thing or else they're trying to show that, while the hero is prepared to engage in violence, they don't enjoy it.

Hey now, that was awfully well-said! And I agree about Basil Rathbone, looks like he was about 43 when the movie came out, the breeze in his hair did a lot for him. Basically an athlete as well.

Bad guys smile and sometimes laugh maniacally. Good guys brood.

You can thank Akira Kurosawa for that, and his movie Yojimbo. Set the framework for the modern action movie

Blame it on Sabatini, Hollywood was just being faithful to the source material. 😝

​@@mbryson2899 faithful to the source material just this once

With very “propah” English accents, too 😉

@@ErnestLordGoring Depends on how much Scots heritage we have . . . .

In the great movie "My Favorite Year", Peter O'Toole, who plays a Flynnesque character, Alan Swann, riffs off this when he tells the protagonist-Mark Linn-Baker, "You know what they say-'You can count on Alan Swann, he will always let you down'."

@@tonyjanney1654 I met Mark Lynn-Baker. He was washing pots and pans in the Yale Law School dinning hall. Even then, he said he was going to make it in Hollywood.

Flynn and Niven shared a house for awhile. They called it "cirrhosis by the sea."

@@tonyjanney1654 There's a fight scene for Jill to analyze. The end scrap from My Favorite Year;).

Interesting. I read Nivens’ “Bring on the Empty Horses”. He devoted an entire chapter to Flynn, even made the end note about him. He certainly didn’t gloss over his alcoholism or penchant for young girls, but other than that, it seemed from Nivens’ view that they were great friends.

M'Anakin Skywalker would have been great for this one due to the "I hate sand" line.

M'Anakin Pieporker for the Pigs in Space version

Listening to Peter Blood try and explain why he bought Arabella was…even more awkward than the bit where she tried to explain why she bought him 🤣 It’s not even a played straight “miscommunication” because they KNOW they’re messing it up, they just don’t know how to fix it.

Absolutely; we must have more samples! 😁 (And of course, more cheese)

@ErnestLordGoring Well said! I seconded you by trying to open her eyes to the possibility of saving up for her own ANGEL INTERCEPTOR...which may well take more than one additional experiment!

'Lizard brain' is actually a common colloquial term referring to one's instincts or primal feelings. Used as though people have several 'brains' or manners of thinking. Big brain=complex logic / Monkey Brain=short term gratification / Lizard brain=Run or Eat

@@classicslover Hello Classic! Yes, I suspect she’d have to challenge Brandon Sanderson to afford an Angel Interceptor. *However*, a sequel would probably raise enough to buy Lady Penelope Creighton-Ward’s Rolls Royce…

@ErnestLordGoring Excellent idea!!! I could see Jill in that!!! = ) Trying to guess how many people are wondering what the heck we are talking about. =)

👍

Pretty good name for a band of pirates, too!

@@seanmorgan1759 I don't think people would take you seriously with that name. ... and people underestimate Piratical Shenanigans at their peril! Bwahahaaaa!!! ☠

@@ObscureRP Exactly! Something something all warfare and deception something! ☠

ottercorrect?

Not even if she were to deny cheese? 😮😮😮

@@seriousmaran9414not even

@@seriousmaran9414. No one can deny cheese 🧀

Why do I feel this comment stream is straight from some alt-reality version of “Monty Python and the Holy Grail”?

@@ErnestLordGoring >D

I'm STILL giggling! 😂

Prisoner of Zenda?

@@what4hats Which version? The 1937 Ronald Coleman/Douglas Fairbanks Jr., or the 1952 Stewart Granger/James Mason version. Or both, and compare them?

Was thinking the 1937 version. But a comparison would be interesting.

@@what4hats And of course, one simply can't overlook the 1980s version with Peter Sellers...

Having spent many holidays on beaches as a kid, and later some kenjutsu training on sand, it burns your legs out incredibly fast. It's not for the faint hearted at all.

I loved that one too!

Another of my favorite Pirate Movies

The Black Swan (1942) has one of the best last lines of any movie. Watch it! 🥰

The final phrase where he fights George Sanders with Maureen O'Hara bound to the table in the foreground is cinematic brilliance

Never thought I'd encounter other Black Swan fans. 😀

@@shenencalhar I saw it for the first time a couple of weeks ago, primarily due to my soft spot for Maureen O'Hara in action movies, and thoroughly enjoyed it

Yes, please 🙏

All this you might have said and more

@@weswolever7477 If you were a man of wit and letters. Of wit, you have none. As for letters, you need but 3 to write you down: A-S-S. Ass. Love that movie. Took me a second.

@@weswolever7477 Then, as I end the refrain, thrust home!

And my wife loved it so much for our wedding she and her professional seamstress sisters designed Elizabethan Court dresses (patterns from scratch) with her in pearl encrusted French silk (two trains, one 18 feet long for the wedding and one 3 feet long for the after ceremony dancing) and three ladies-in-waiting bridesmaids in Black, Purple and Royal Blue velvet and embroidery. Males in White Tie and Tails (I got to wear my medals!) and off to honeymoon. Six days short of nine months later our first son was born...and Christened "Geoffrey" after Flynn's character, Geoffrey Thorpe. (My wife adored Errol Flynn...vibes!)

Was going to recommend this one. It is my favorite Flynn movie and I love the final sword fight

Holy shit! I never realized "in like Flynn" was referring to Errol Flynn

@@ZamboniZone And now it makes sense.

I'm curious, why was going offline not done in French style? Is it a result of the restrictions of Olympic fencing? Edit: for the second question mark.

@@eldorados_lost_searcher French fencing might have offline attacks, I just learned under a gentleman with an Italian style background and he definitely showed a few! It was interesting because he was in his 70s when I trained under him and the folks that taught him had been in their 70s and 80s when he was receiving his lessons. Essentially, he represented probably close to a 150 years of fencing and his style reflected a mindset towards fighting with sharps or not having modern fencing scoring systems. Distinct parries and definitive attacks were emphasized so judges wouldn't miss your scores. I think stepping offline and thrusting your opponent made it very clear who hit whom. Staying online is probably slightly more efficient and when you are more concerned with simply hitting the opponent faster and not worried about the judge missing a score, stepping around is just as necessary! I am not an expert so this is just my opinion and I definitely defer to anyone with more knowledge! :)

The best.

@@swampert564 Cough-Jeremy Brett-cough

That's a fair pick. I prefer the 30/40's movies to the 80/90's shows but it could certainly be reasonably argued in either direction. I can't help but picture Rathbone when I think of the character but Brett certainly put quite the stamp on it.

He's pretty darn good.

​@@swampert564I love both but I think Brett is more true to the source material and I probably give them the win by a nose, likewise Nigel Bruce was a delightful Watson but both Burke and Hardwick gave him a more faithful turn. Basil Rathbone was great at everything, including his guest starring roles on Jack Benny's radio show

It just MIGHT be my favourite show ever. That or Hogan's Heroes. I alternate the series 😃

Definitely! One of the best sit-coms along with Dads Army and Allô Allô

Another vote for The Prisoner of Zenda

Did you hear that Christopher Lee was almost wounded because Oliver Reed was going at him without regard to the choreography, and Lee was hampered by his eyepatch?

@@eldorados_lost_searcher To quote one of the other swordsmen (it might have been Christopher Lee, but I have a feeling it was one of the stuntmen) in that film "Oliver Reed fights for keeps"

​@@eldorados_lost_searcherThat . . . totally sounds like Oliver Reed!

I remember watching it in the theater and knowing that it was going to be good just from the opening credit sequence

@@weswolever7477 Same; I think I saw it at the base movie theatre at RAF Lakenheath when it made the AFEES circuit. Loved the choreography because we had never seen such "visceral" sword fights before. I have tried to find a copy to see how time has changed my memory but the film has been remade so many times...

Those are counter beats, Levasseur is trying to bait a reaction from him. It is intentional, honest! (At least in that part)

@@JillBearup Rathbone has a tendency to do this in his other fights too, but he's usually good at making it look like he's trying to psyche out his opponent. But banging away for 10 seconds straight just looks ridiculous.

Oh my gawd, you're right! 😅

Yup, biiiig difference between fighting, and looking like you're fighting without anyone getting hurt.

I remember watching a video that included a sword match, kendo I think it was. It was some circling, a couple probing swing. And then swing swing, point. It was exciting and interesting, but not entertaining.

Curtiz and Flynn didn't get along well, but they could make some good films.

@@eldorados_lost_searcher The true sign of a professional is being willing and able to do your best with people you don't particularly like.

@@ghost307 Considering that Flynn allegedly threatened Curtiz with a sword when he saw that Curtiz had had the safety sleeves on the swords removed, I'm not sure if I'd classify their relationship as professional.

Honestly as far as Flynn doing crazy shit goes, threatening Curtiz for making the movie more dangerous seems down right reasonable. Obviously wildly unprofessional from either of them but I digress.

Everyone should have walked off the set until the actor stopped treating a deadly weapon as a toy. Deadly weapons should ALWAYS be treated as deadly weapons. I'm looking at you, Alec Baldwin.

Never let someone gaslight you into disbelieving your lizard brain. Your lizard brain is usually correct.

'Thank you, Bernard.' 😆🥰

It’s enjoyable - to quote Sir Frank - “in a cumulative sense, taken globally”

​@@ErnestLordGoring'At the appropriate juncture; in the fullness of time . . .'

He was quite the character to put it lightly. At best a skeevy, womanizing, hard partying lunatic and probably far more shady than that if anything. He certainly was a fun performer though.

LOL...in real life your "used car salesman" was conned by his ex-wife and "friends" like Bruce Cabot financially like there was no tomorrow, so your "lizard brain" is way off. You don't like the guy's style, that's ok, but don't invent things because by all records Flynn was extremely trusting and generous with his friends and that cost him a lot in the end.

Patina oft as not,

Oh yes 🥰

How annoying! I hope they manage to fix it for you.