Drake’s Ghostwriters + BBL Drizzy, J. Cole & Cash Cobain “Grippy,” The Music Industry Exposed + MORE

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0:00 - Can conscious rappers get in their sexy bag?
5:52 - Can guys go on girls trips? - Memorial Day weekend recap
24:29 - J. Cole’s verse on “Grippy” by Cash Cobain
35:18 - Alleged leaks of the reference tracks for Drake’s “Mob Ties,” “Ratchet Happy Birthday,” and more
1:02:31 - Drake’s verse over Metro Boomin’s BBL Drizzy beat on Sexyy Red’s “U My Everything.”
1:10:03 - Sexyy Red’s place in Hip Hop today and if she’ll stand the test of time
1:21:51 - The extent to which reference tracks put a stain on an artist’s legacy
1:28:54 - The Justice Department’s lawsuit against Live Nation and slave agreements in entertainment
1:58:13 - SaVon calls out Pierre for bring a hater
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@PookahPayed Ай бұрын

We need a "Drake's Ghostwriter's Songs," playlist on Spotify ASAP

@Left4Bed151 Ай бұрын

Ngl, Savon looks like a Neyo reference track

@E-vanstyless Ай бұрын

nigga this is an all time comment😂😂😂

@user-ec5ux1je1n Ай бұрын

Ayoo 😂😂

@kenechi-k Ай бұрын

Omfg 😂😂

@Left4Bed151 Ай бұрын

He must get so sick when a miss independent asks him to come closer

@kevonwalker92 Ай бұрын

I’m rolling 😂😂

@rudigomez Ай бұрын

In Quintin interviews he said he initially didnt know drake was going to take the Tracks, he thought he was going to get a verse from drake…

@Jruemac15 Ай бұрын

No way

@TMACBENZ21 Ай бұрын

Reggie didn’t listen to the reference track lmao, Vory literally says “rara and dada” in the track, that wasn’t a Drake idea

@Jruemac15 Ай бұрын

“Drake is trying to do an impersonation of Drake” definitely makes sense

@IssuesTurn Ай бұрын

The Goal of a reference track is to get the gist of the song and flow, of course the final product will sound better, one’s not the final version

@Dizturb3dwun Ай бұрын

the issue is he claims to be a rapper that writes his own music. Using reference tracks is WAY worse than having ghost writers. Cuz you don't even need to figure out your own lyrics, flow, beat, inflection, intent, portrayal. You just flip the rhymes at the end (and he doesnt even seem to do this much). This is literally Drake gettign called out for being a "Studio" rapper, not a real rapper. Also, the man lied to Lebron's face. What the fuck

@KDASH201 Ай бұрын

@@Dizturb3dwunworst than him implying he wrote these songs he implied he wrote THIS specific song on LeBron show. He is the liar that Kendrick was talking about

@drudane82 Ай бұрын

I was going to say the same thing. Finished product vs unpolished product will always sound better.

@dabombyon Ай бұрын

Another way to look at this....Aubrey Graham is a phenomenal actor and DRAKE is his oscar role!

@shaamlowery2632 Ай бұрын

Thank you someone said it

@itsdacj Ай бұрын

Another way to look at this is, every artist, including your favorite rappers, use writers and reference tracks. This is common in the music industry.

@fizzychizzy Ай бұрын

⁠@@itsdacjstop the CAP! I’m tired of people throwing this comment out without naming names and adding proof. Rappers are not R&B singers or pop stars. So don’t mention Beyoncé or Whitney or even MJ. Their selling point has always been their vocal ability. They could easily make an album of cover songs in the height of their career and sell millions. These rappers can’t sing. No one is paying a bunch of money to hear autotune Drake sing out covers of Beyoncé or Whitney songs. Kanye is a producer and like most producer/rappers, he had ghostwriters. It’s common. No one that is being idolized for their pen has reference tracks coming out in clusters every 3 years like Drake. Just cause that is how Drake does it doesn’t mean you can put that on everyone else. If the reference tracks existed, they would have leaked by now. It’s too many Drake Stan’s out there right now that are trying to cover for their boy. The internet is desperate for a Jay Z, Eminem, or Nas reference track where they literally copy bars. They want the same tracks for all the female MCs too like Nicki and Megan just to prove a point. Especially with the amount of animosity traded online. Stop the cap.

@xoioioioioio8084 Ай бұрын

NO, rappers can't reach some pockets with chorus and hooks, it's what they need writers for, not for their rap verses. Be fr, rappers don't pen a lot of their choruses, even Royce said he doesn't care if an emcee, gets help with a hook or chorus, just not your verse.

@alexsosick863 Ай бұрын

Its kanye fault. Thats Drake biggest motivator and Kanye said himself he plays a role in the rap game and sadly a half black Canadian thought he would do the same.

@earlgreysweatpants Ай бұрын

Taking the “Drake has ghostwriters” conversation and reshaping it into “Drake gets help, and I’m not mad at him bc he makes everything better” is a really lame conversation to have about the subject matter.

@earlgreysweatpants Ай бұрын

There’s a reason the JBP has stood out and garnered an audience in these last few months- they actually have had something to say in regards to the Drake stuff (except Ish) and aren’t just trying to play it safe or appease that camp

@evansu007 Ай бұрын

I disagree I think this stance is a fair one. It’s ok to outsource and sauce it up. You think metro really did that whole 2piece project with future from scratch??? Mad samples and sauced up fx, composing and drums.

@IceDizzy Ай бұрын

@@evansu007 he didn’t sauce up anything. The flows, cadences, and even most of the lyrics are literally another artist. And you can’t compare that to production which has almost always been collaborative vs Hip Hop where it’s always been an L to have writers. Which is why Drake even talks about it in a way that downplays how much help he’s getting and obviously uncomfortable when addressing it.

@Delvotron_ 27 күн бұрын

💯💯💯

@meshlaw5757 Ай бұрын

This is a podcast! Long ass pod but definitely consumable. Opinions are put across honestly yet not trying to downplay an individual. Love it.

@dopocc Ай бұрын

This is the most positive podcast. Your open-minded and respectful conversations are very inspiring and great examples that more creators should follow. Thank you, much respect to all and big blessings. All the best!

@kikidymon Ай бұрын

Aubrey Graham is a wonderful actor bc he put on quite a show for almost 15 years as the Rapper Drake.

@iDewThis4Yu Ай бұрын

Aye S/O to yall. The pod has gotten so much better..especially Alex..I use to couldn’t stand him on the Mike but now he funny af😂

@kaofounder Ай бұрын

8:20 "He gon hold me down and give me the super shine on the baldy!?!?" AAAYYYOOOOO

@ThisCurrentCulturePodcast Ай бұрын

Drake is Teddy Ruxbin...put a reference tape in his back and lips sings it

@jasongranfelt6438 Ай бұрын

I think asking which sounds better is unfair considering drakes versions are polished mixed and mastered. While the references are typically very rough cuts. But I do think it’d be fair to assume drakes would sound better in the end. None the less still don’t think it’s a valid or sound argument

@Lologirl236 Ай бұрын

💯 agree with Alex. It matters because we all thought Mob Ties was a very personal track, not just a pop song, but something meaningful written by Drake gettin at Kanye. But it was mostly written by someone else! And that bodybags bar is the best part, written by somebody else! I don't care if Drake performed it better. I'm finally done. Still enjoy his bops, but he's no goat for me

@shaamlowery2632 Ай бұрын

Can’t put him in the same Tier as Jay z and Nas as a MC he’s a pop star

@itsdacj Ай бұрын

@@shaamlowery2632Jay-Z and Nas have both used writers. GTFOH

@shaamlowery2632 Ай бұрын

@@itsdacj you sound fuckin retarted go pull Up a reference track from them then bitch

@toledoatkins Ай бұрын

@@itsdacjplease please post the link to anything close to proof of what you’re saying

@itsdacj Ай бұрын

@@toledoatkinsKanye West produced a reference track for Jay-Z for the track Lucifier where Jay-Z uses the flow and some of the bars. Nas has actively worked with Quentin Miller, a known writer and ghost writer.

@xizkx3376 Ай бұрын

So I am a faithful spotify listener. This is the RARE time that I watch on YT and we see that "lineup" SaVon barber tried 🤣🤣🤣🤣 knew there was a reason for mixing it up this week

@dashinthrulife Ай бұрын

Reg was floatin on that So Icy!!

@dopocc Ай бұрын

Vory should be considered for the next Rock n Roll hall of fame induction

@Churchboi49389 Ай бұрын

Cole made “Foldin Clothes”, that Grippy joint ain’t too far off.

@lreez977 Ай бұрын

Naw grippy is way worse by comparison at least fold clothes was about his lady lmao

@Churchboi49389 Ай бұрын

@@lreez977 oh, i agree. I just think both are horrible songs.

@Rodricktyrone Ай бұрын

lol folding clothes is right up his lane tho. Regular ass shit tryna be a good husband. Simplistic song but its his lane

@dbd516 Ай бұрын

Telling Regi she gotta “nig a lil bit was tears” 😂😂 ..Alex was spitting facts on the capitalism point 🤝🏾 classic episode

@MrRy84 Ай бұрын

Regi is looking so perturb about the drake reference ties😢😢

@Br0NZ0 Ай бұрын

Now the barber doing that was a straight flagrant 2 foul violation 😂😂😂 OMG!!!

@kohfu__smoov Ай бұрын

yo that intro throwin me off SaVon you gotta switch that lol you can be " sa with the clean slate" or something but the pause into the "N" .... ( also s/o to P referencing rhody and my home turf's terrible driving that actually happened to me one time and somebody who saw us driving had called the police on us homie threw something out the window at me blew a red light trying to fishtail me)

@Rodricktyrone Ай бұрын

The way yall dissed logic on a double entendre is crazy 😂😂😂😂 1:19:28

@karimsings4098 Ай бұрын

They definitely still sell Wrigley's gum. Also, Etra, Orbit, and 5 gum are Wrigley's gum.

@tonymontez2358 Ай бұрын

50:23 y’all making it seem like this is new information that Drake has ghostwriters meek told y’all this years ago and y’all ignored it now it’s resurfacing we questioning it naw we been knew lol 😂

@greaterthanharrowk1679 Ай бұрын

Grippy is so bad its almost good. P.S. Regi's got a great voice.

@TheBlackShepherd Ай бұрын

😭😂 Big P called the cops one her 😂

@Investandwin Ай бұрын

Savon gotta change his barber for that lmao 🤣

@elias.236 Ай бұрын

🚗 🚗 🚘 "you know what? I gotta call the cops on her." 🚔 "YOU'RE SUCH A KAREN!" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@premiumdre5228 Ай бұрын

I think I've watched 250 out of the 260 episodes of this pod and today it has struck me... Ms Regina is extremely fine and has the most versatile looks.💜

@r0mediddy Ай бұрын

I just listened to the Cole verse, I’m cracking the F up. It’s not so much the sexual nature of it, the verse itself was just mid. He said he’ll take her kids to Disney and pay a little extra so they can meet Mickey. 😂😂😂🐭

@ThisCurrentCulturePodcast Ай бұрын

43:35 - shocking folks really felt gangster vibes from Aubrey on any level

@hidamarie93 Ай бұрын

I know this my second comment however I gotta say bruh what dude said the tree of life tatt, I think his name Savon is, he dropped gems, as a parent when I heard him say you need to update your parenting I been sitting wondering if I’m failing because I’m trying to update lol, but that right there thank God man sometimes you need to hear that from people you listen to because it hits different 🙏🏾

@williamhunt7285 Ай бұрын

Why is it that this podcast doesn’t play the audio to music Joe Budden doesn’t have an exclusive license to this music and many other podcasts with small smaller audiences. Don’t have license to the music so I’m not understanding why I’m listening to a podcast about music when I can’t hear music.

@mrswerveon Ай бұрын

He got sued for that Rappin 4 Tay verse. He had to pay $100,000. He got sued another time for the same thing.

@gabr131s9 Ай бұрын

I’m a big Drake fan and have been for years. But hearing the amount of reference tracks he has used over the years is kindof crazy! Still amazing artist but it does tarnish his legacy a bit. This all reminds me of how when he was coming out, he went on to flex to do a “freestyle” but was literally reading off his blackberry phone while pretending to freestyle the song 😅 The delivery and flow is phenomenal but he is definitely not freestyling, so it’s corny, but it’s kind of hard at the same time. And then at the end he runs out of lines to keep rapping / or his phone battery ran out. Pretty much sums up what Drake is like, talented, great voice, kind of corny and gangster at the same time. If he wrote push ups / family matters he is still a beast rapper and one of the best, i wouldn’t say he should stop rapping

@hozayb4196 Ай бұрын

Podcasters in hip hop waste so much time stating disclaimers... "But shout out sexxi redd" ... ""Dont get me wrong Drake makes amazing music" Just critique something without the backtracking.

@Dizturb3dwun Ай бұрын

I wonder who he referenced on the sexxy red track

@rudigomez Ай бұрын

I don't care if any Artist uses writers... But if they do, you can't say you are nice with the pen anymore… when we keep finding out its not your pen like 6-7 years later…. Are the time stamps written by someone else? You can't say yes or no with certainty…

@iameNeRG Ай бұрын

1:18:44 comment when you hear it

@Jruemac15 Ай бұрын

Asking who did it better btw vory and Drake is proof he doesn’t want to get into the actual conversation which is btw him and other rappers like Kendrick and greats like Nas and jay and how he tries to put himself in front of them

@gailrogers5750 Ай бұрын

Savon you're wrong. They still sell Wrigley's gum

@tposeuntilww3153 Ай бұрын

What happened to the other guy that used to be on here

@dlo615 Ай бұрын

Soooooo we gonna act like mob ties is a vibey song? Dawg lets be real this kinda bad

@Bigb_10 Ай бұрын

Might want to double check that misinformation. Drake said and has always said his written every lyric on all his “TIMESTAMPS AND CLASSICS” not every record on scorpion🤣

@goodfella1401 Ай бұрын

Drake stole a whole verse from Lisa "Left Eye" Lopez, from Rappin-4-Tay (the artist Regi is refering too), Ma$e and an artist called Joe Milly. Drake steals more from other artists than he has number 1 hits

@traceatroj240 Ай бұрын

He does it better because he has the foundations raid out to him, so yes it becomes easy to change somethings here and there

@omaricalhoun1797 Ай бұрын

Just saw Reggie IG…😅 I didn’t know she bad bad!

@Deewhite3 Ай бұрын

I love not being a hip hop fan that’s listening for the vibes and not scathing hot hip hop bars because I didn’t have a problem with Cole on the song I thought it was a vibe 😂 probably the reason I don’t care AT ALL about the Drake references

@philosopherking7869 Ай бұрын

This how you know the Drake downfall is accelerating. I’ve never thought the reference songs for Drake sounded as good or better this year. Also never thought the reference artist should have kept the song. Cash Cobain should have kept Calling for You. Partynextdoor should have kept Ratchet Happy Birthday. Vory should have kept Mob Ties. The first part of Vorys Mob ties is better than drakes first part/first verse.

@kaofounder Ай бұрын

Drake did the right thing. If he suddenly stopped hanging with Sexyy Red, he'd be clowned for that too.

@AnaAnaAna Ай бұрын

This.

@dishurd Ай бұрын

Savon said “I don’t know what mos def is” …. Wtf

@PacmanTransport 17 күн бұрын

Drake literally got on Lebron podcast and said he wrote Mobties after the Pusha T beef. Said he took the pusha t energy and put it into the album. And literally lied through his teeth.

@3ddyBsounds Ай бұрын

Artists that make a living or whom have done reference tracks for big artists are, a lot of the times, promised a shot for their contribution. It's not necessarily that they dont have the sauce/talent & or the complete package. Most of the time they dont have the team............

@Whit_23 Ай бұрын

I love Alex’s takes on Capitalism because he’s speaking all facts

@jayd6068 Ай бұрын

I’m not even mad at grippy. It’s catchy and just a fun song. Not always what I want to hear from Cole but the song ain’t bad. Much better than SexyDrake song that was released.

@ChefOG_Ra Ай бұрын

Dont save him, he dont wanna be saved 😂😂Its hilarious that people still say that he has songs he wrote or that he wrote for other people. Who has been in the studio to say that he's ever wrote anything? How do we know the songs he "wrote" for others isnt pulled from a pool or reference tracks? Always trynna shoot him some bail, as if they have the knowledge to say that he does write. "Why believe you, you neve5 gave us nothin to believe in."

@mrsnakey289 Ай бұрын

Everyone says drake has wrote a lot of artist and then they got on to name rnb acts. Name me a rapper who he has wrote for!?!

@fizzychizzy Ай бұрын

I disagree about Megan thee Stallion. Megan has been popular for a very long time. In fact, Megan has one of the most loyal fanbases because they face tons of opposition on all sides and they still show up. Megan is not the example you want. Furthermore, a national arena tour suggests that this assessment is off. They didn’t put all the tickets everywhere on sale. They put tickets on sale in specific markets that are not heavy on hip hop or maybe southern rappers.

@jayrobbins7386 Ай бұрын

Most rappers are liars One minute Drake writes everything, next he has a team of writers. One minute Cole is ready to slaughter anybody, next minute he’s apologizing.

@goodfella1401 Ай бұрын

Saying Drake's version sound better as a point to defend Drake is so dumb. A reference track is a first draft of a song. So if you have good writers, good producers and good engineers of course the second draft will usually sound better. That doesn't mean that the person who gave them the first draft doesn't deserve all the credit because they did the hardest part. Actually coming up with an amazing first draft for them to then work on instead of Drake coming up with a new song from scratch

@tonymontez2358 Ай бұрын

1:28:41 at this point how y’all know drake ghostwriters aren’t really the ones ghostwriting for the people drake says he wrote for everything is questionable now u can’t brag about ghostwriting for others when u have a ovo sweat shop cooking up everything that ain’t his pen that’s left overs from the ovo writing room 😂😂

@traceatroj240 Ай бұрын

I love the grippy song..... But i think because of everything the people we just expecting something from Cole

@bigswint9314 Ай бұрын

I feel like that's not the first song to come back with

@PookahPayed Ай бұрын

Nah, I can't respect a rapper with a ghostwriter. It's one thing to write notation or even a script together for a video together, but the actual VERSES? Even HOOKS I'm fine with as long as it's a feature collaboration, as long as you're not DBOWING THE ENTIRE HOOK AND VERSE 🫠 On top of that, the reference tracks being leaked are from former Drake beefs. Wait til yall understand that DAYLYT shit with Back to Back

@DSuelo Ай бұрын

Send Drake all the reference tracks and ghostwriters he needs. If Drake don't rap or sing these songs, we don't want to hear it. 😀🔥

@HildaRendon-xr7zl Ай бұрын

Baddies don’t like Savon’s energy

@manuelolvera8706 Ай бұрын

You can’t be respected if some of your songs were partially created by someone else😂🤣…almost like that shi was there and you took it.

@itsdacj Ай бұрын

So Kanye and Jay-Z can’t be respected?

@manuelolvera8706 Ай бұрын

@@itsdacj They damn sure not my goats but I get you.

@toilettisha122 Ай бұрын

Saying Drake’s version of Mob Ties sounds better than Vory, is you podcasters still trying to help Drake. His monotone rap style is not always the better version.

@Alloyd876 Ай бұрын

😂he cant do no controlla part 2. Wi nuh like Drake.

@aweshumandy Ай бұрын

Vory's version of Mob Ties was better

@daneciajohnson6650 Ай бұрын

Nahhhhh nahh He can’t keep skating by with these excuses “Drake makes everything sound better.” Because Future could have slid on Mob Ties. Thugger coulda slid on Mob Ties. Travis coulda slid on Mob Ties. Gunna coulda slid on Mob Ties. Yachty coulda slid on Mob Ties. I know objectivity is important. But thats an excuse thats been used far too long, and too often for someone like Drake who has touted his longevity as evidence of his greatness.

@fiknbeyo Ай бұрын

All this ghost writing talk makes me wonder what y’all think about Snoop coming out on club shay shay not too long ago to say and confirm that JayZ wrote Still Dre

@PacmanTransport 17 күн бұрын

Dre is a producer not a rapper. Never has Drake tried to claim the GOAT rapper title

@hidamarie93 Ай бұрын

This borderline is irritating, let’s make this clear, there’s a difference between referencing and plagiarism. Before anyone come @ me here’s what I’m wondering, why in college we learn the difference between referencing and plagiarism and get taught that it’s not acceptable, and in hip hop we are saying it’s ok here because it’s art, but if you were to make a copy of a painting and sell it as real And get found out you a con artist, bruh come on, there nothing wrong with ghost writers, what’s wrong is when you con people and plagrise work, and say you are the original it just makes you wonder, why would you hide that, you only hide stuff your insecure about period, so if your pen isn’t elite cool, you can’t have bars like I would have all your fans if i stayed on conscious ish, and your pen is not the one who saying that, Actors don’t go around saying I wrote those lines, they may improv and they say which lines were improv and I may be going to hard but I’m personally irritated with this because being a creator you put your everything into something, that’s like birthing a child and giving it to someone eles and they telling your child I birthed you, lol you be like mofo you ain’t birth nothing if you could birth so easily then why you tap me to do. I’m sick of these symatics, you either did it or not and if not that’s ok just own up to it, simple as that. 🤣

@yoolay527 Ай бұрын

I kno pierre did not name sisqo and beyonce nicca drake is a so called RAPPER you dont here rap reference tracks

@itsdacj Ай бұрын

Literally every artist uses writers and reference tracks.

@darniesha9396 Ай бұрын

Stop glazin

@MrClbrown33 Ай бұрын

Savon is a cob slobber..... sorry bro. As a rapper/emcee/lyricist and you crying about wanting your respect as such!?? Drake is a Pop star that raps. He isn't Hip Hop for real.