A real stand up dude

Jamie is just a genuinely good dude. Met him in person at a skate shop last week and he just had a conversation with me. Crazy he was my childhood hero

Too bad he had to lose it all to get to this point. Admitting the failings were largely on him is not something 99% of businessmen ever would admit

It’s just his perspective. He’s a little biiiiiiithc

wow, tough business but its global now, especially with the Olympics, in this game the brand matters so much!!! things that don't make money today, make a ton later on!!! keep on doing what you doing chief!!!

I could listen to this guy talk all day long man, the combo of him and Cole made this my favourite episode so far.

100 percent agree!! Dude should write a book about business or even about his life.

Yeah, this was a great conversation. Most skaters would've glossed over all the business details and told a half-assed story to save face.

​@@migueljimenez5165yeah maybe he should write a book about Ed Templeton, and then Templeton should write a book about Steve Rocco.

I'm 29 and have just got back into skating to skate/scooter/bike around with my son, you should hop back on fr. I've done team sports, music, all kinds of stuff but skating is the perfect union of physical and artistic skills.

Dude for real

I quit skating when I was in my early 20s because I was going to school and working full-time. Now I'm in my mid 30s listening to a few skate podcasts and wishing I hadn't ever put the board down. It is interesting to get perspective on what was going on behind the scenes.

@@jacobsims8307same, 29 getting back into it. Teaching my kid a little. Just got treflips back

I second this!! Thank you!

Same, fallens we’re really good and they had super grippy flick 👌🏽

Same+snowboarding

always saw Fallen as kind of a poser brand tbh. lots of kids at my school who didn't skate would rock them to "look cool". not hating on the team or the people behind it, but it's just really hard to break that kind of reputation. Ride the Sky was a dope video. I still remember some clips from Gilbert Crockett's part. but there were just so many skate shoes in the early 00's and this brand didn't bring a lot to the table. when I think of Fallen I just think of skate shoes that I would find at Kohl's or something. another reputation failure. on the other end of the spectrum, Nike has done a good job of creating a premium brand and garnered a lot of respect despite being so mainstream. it really defies the laws of "cool", but that just speaks to how well they have executed in such a niche market. despite being a publicly traded company, they managed to assemble one of the best teams and have stayed dialed in to the community and have a good idea of what's hot. say what you will, but janoski's were so iconic when I was growing up. and now we have the dunks with their limited releases and streetwear hype. I don't know. just interesting to ponder how such a bloated corporation with a bunch of different athletic divisions has managed to do so well in the skateboarding industry.

I had the purple Chris Cole Fallens back in the day, shouts to my mom lol.

@@mattbob1995as a skater in the 90s, Vans and Airwalks were viewed as the poser/newbie skate shoe - because they were “big” brands. Nike was for basketball. Have a hard time seeing a skate shoe created by an actual skater as a “poser” shoe, especially compared to a big corporate brand like Nike.

got offered flow of supras and said no hahahahaha shut up

@natedawg__7673 I really did. Wasn't my style let alone I had a leather pair. Didn't fit my style or skating

@natedawg__7673 also when I tried the pair, they still tried to make me pay half for the pair they wanted to me try lol. Definitely didn't feel like a team shop rider for Damage at that point

I liked Supra because of Muska, but their durability and build quality was trash.

I always had to get my fallens off the internet/catalogs, the shops never had them.

It is that’s the problem and the community doesn’t support the companies enough

Half of the problem, and I was guilty of it too, is the skate community thinking anyone is "corporate" or a "sellout" if they tried to actually make a company that prospered. Like my 17 yr old mind couldn't comprehend that trucks, decks, and wheels, shoes and grip tape doesn't come from a magic fairy. Takes a lot of investment, lots of money on marketing, and lots of blood, sweat, and tears for these companies.

@@BrettStubbs exactly! Can’t talk shit then don’t wear core companies that’s how i think about it

​@BonesDMS4life and even Danny Way's I think it's his brother Damon who works at DC. Without a CCS and Zumiez, a shoe company cannot survive

@@Relentlezz41 yep and that’s the truth especially the small companies

Gaps huge

Right then admitting he took 1 mil from the company for his own home ( I'm guessing to purchase more property or invest ) dude was the reason the company went down lol

a lot of ppl took advantage of Jamie's nice-ness and genuine love of skating. MUSKA and Kalis being the 2 biggest ones who used him. fck Kalis as a person ya he built up Love with Stevie but he's not a good friend.

@@eatassonthefirstdate Mike Carroll seems kinda douchey too, cant people be cool and good at something as well? is that not possible lol

@@eatassonthefirstdate why what happened?

@@AstralHiGH oh dude 4 sure the guys who own Girl are 4 sure d-bag ish and way full off themselves. they're from San Francisco though lol so That's probly why 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

JT gave me his barely skated deck at Pacific Drive in ‘99 (unsolicited) it took me a minute to register what just happened. “Live fast” written on the grip and I skated that proudly. Nice guy for sure.

I'll open up about stuff if you respect me bro?

@user-qj9dw6tn8y I wouldn't take that chance. I can think of a few things one could open up about that would yield the opposite effect.

@infinitescenarios like what? I am 36 years old an sleep with a Teddy bear an wet my bed still also a virgin ? Who would judge me about that. Respect is what I'll get . Would you respect me if I told you one more thing

@@user-qj9dw6tn8y That's all fine and dandy so far.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Skating is competitive. When you’re an up and coming skater it might be uncomfortable taking on a teammate you know could surpass you. Chris ended up being a cool dude, but they didn’t really know how he would turn out back then.

I've always felt Chris Cole's style was suited more to the fresh gear he used to rock. For some reason the hesh look appears incongruous with his style, to my eye. I recently saw an old 411 where he was rocking the fresh gear and was reminded how good I thought his style was when I first became aware of him, and I'm actually a hesh guy. I think it would have been cool to have just the one fresh dude on Zero and Fallen, but I guess they didn't think so.

Oh the new Fallens are garbage…

And he got that pop!

He's been 32 for 20 years

Totally a vampire

Same here man I really want to get some troopers again, hated seeing big brands take over the market and push out all my favorite skater brands.

And you still don't. No one said it was true just what they thought, pay attention.

​​​@@anthonynunyabizness9989jamie said that John literally said he didn't want him on zero but knew Jamie wanted him but once he got on fallen John said he didn't want to be on 2 teams with Cole. They literally DID say that. Pay attention.

Are they talking about alley Boulala

@@TheJdog18 John Allie.

@@TheJdog18 no, its Allie..Jon Allie.

I wanna know that too. I couldnt find anything. Side note: theres a small landscaping company here in my small city of 300k people and it has the fallen footwear logo....it bothers me when I see it haha

There's also a trucking/shipping company that had the eagle outline graphic like 20 years before Jamie used it for Zero.

Who was?!😊

Who was?

Zero bullshit

Eldy wasn't there to talk golf haha