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Then & Now

Then & Now

3 жыл бұрын

#wokeism #cancelculture #woke #cosmicskeptic #carefreewandering #douglasmurray #winstonmarshall #piersmorgan
Wokeism? What is it? Is it a force for good, for bad? Is it political correctness gone mad? Is it really everywhere? Or is it a red-herring? A New MccArthyism? Puritanical? Cancel Culture? Dogmatic?
This idea of being woke - of wokeism - appeared seemingly out of nowhere. Does it have a history? What’s going on under the surface? When you strip away the noise.
We’ll look at the history of the term, how its related to political correctness, ask whether it goes back further, before thinking about what I’ll describe as the broadening of the public sphere, and the cancel culture debate.
After surveying the history, I look at three quick case studies: ‪@carefreewandering‬ ‪@CosmicSkeptic‬ and Winston Marshall from Mumford and Sons
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Sources:
Geoffrey Hughes, Political Correctness: A History of Semantics and Culture
Angela Nagel, Kill All Normies
www.vox.com/culture/21437879/...
unherd.com/2019/10/woke-gq-re...
www.nationalreview.com/2018/1...
P. Bourdieu, Dinstinctions
Then & Now, Bourdieu
Clay Shirky, Here Comes Everybody
Natalie Coulter & Kristine Moruzi (2020): Woke girls: from TheGirl’sRealm to TeenVogue, Feminist Media Studies
Jurgen Habermas, The Structural Transformation of the Public Sphere
Tom Nicholas, Whose Afraid of the Online Mob?
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Pierre Bourdieu Photo: Bernard Lambert, CC BY-SA 4.0, creativecommons.org/licenses/..., via Wikimedia Commons

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@ThenNow
@ThenNow Жыл бұрын
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@hpalpha7323
@hpalpha7323 2 жыл бұрын
the terms "woke" and "redpilled" originally had the exact same meaning (being aware of the inconvenient truth about society), but depending on who adopted the terms their meanings changed into mocking insults
@giniwelle
@giniwelle 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe true wokeism is the friends we made along the way.
@jeromewright93
@jeromewright93 Жыл бұрын
We are all Woke to our own injustices. Being Truely Woke is to be aware of the injustices others suffer.
@chewygal69
@chewygal69 2 жыл бұрын
Conversation has disappeared and now all I see is everyone raging and reacting. I don't think people should be canceled, these incidents should be seen as a teachable moment. We need to sit down with each other and have a conversation and listen to each other.
@tim290280
@tim290280 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a few criticisms of Moeller's take on Wokeism, but I agree with other commenters that you've kinda gotten his argument wrong (if I remember correctly, it wasn't just a "religious" thing, but a tribal thing, so in group/out group signalling). That said, I agree that wokeism criticism is just a rebrand of a very old tactic to play the victim card and avoid criticism of bad ideas from (generally) terrible people.
@DoctorZomboo
@DoctorZomboo Жыл бұрын
Watching this one year later and it's only been getting worse and more confusingly used! I saw a menopause awareness campaign labelled as "woke" the other day!
@penjorebhutia2815
@penjorebhutia2815 2 жыл бұрын
While I agree with the origin of wokeism relating to the habermasian concept of 'public sphere' but the fact is that wokeism has its limitations. Wokeism as taking place currently, has become a form of performative act, a trend. That's why all these multinationals who don't give a shit about minorities or transgender people, will be so eager to co-opt the rhetoric of pride and diversity. Amazon can play the woke rhetoric of racial diversity, all the while destroying union efforts by its own employees, the most vulnerable of whom are the racial minorities themselves. In short, the problem with wokeism is that its superficial and not honest regarding the problems and its solutions.
@Jimdixon1953
@Jimdixon1953 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe the English cancelled Joan of Arc by burning her at the stake. That’s one campus debate that went wrong.
@kwxba5760
@kwxba5760
never read a comment section where people missed the point of the video this much. the video is clearly a critique the use of "wokeism" as a term in conservative spaces, not a critique of whatever these people think wokeism is in the comments like let's be serious
@derp195
@derp195
I'm autistic, and half of this video was an explanation of why I get in trouble with other progressive people even though we hold the same opinions on the actual issues.
@garysantos7053
@garysantos7053 Жыл бұрын
“If liberty means anything at all it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
@stephenbedford1395
@stephenbedford1395 Жыл бұрын
I used to think 'woke' was a state you entered after finishing sleeping for the night. Now I'm just confused...
@intellectually_lazy
@intellectually_lazy Жыл бұрын
sometimes i feel like the people who told me i was wrong for doing or saying shitty things helped me to become a better person
@Alex-mn1fb
@Alex-mn1fb Жыл бұрын
The undeniable right-wing fearmongering aside, to pretend that progressive politics have not "jumped the shark" in a lot of ways, is very unwise at this point. No matter its admirable goals, it became in a lot of ways performative, dishonest, and routinely abused for personal and selfish goals. It needs a lot of course correction, and more then a bit of internal criticism, which it does not allow.
@spiffenage1
@spiffenage1 Жыл бұрын
I The Americans had a spate of "cancel culture" going in the 1950s. Senator McCarthy s witchhunting against so called communists drove many talented artists from the USA.
@SeekingApatheia
@SeekingApatheia 2 жыл бұрын
Your interpretation of Moeller is far more "bizarre" than anything he said.
@lordtugboat
@lordtugboat 2 жыл бұрын
I've been such a huge admirer of your channel ever since you put out your video on Derrida/post structuralism, and (back when I had the funds), supported you on Patreon. This is the first time I've seen you post a video that didn't engage with the arguments being critiqued. I don't know who two out of the three of KZfaqrs being criticized, but I did watch the carefree wandering video and nowhere in this did you engage the main problem with wokeness, as he sees it--it's that it's a language game that anyone can perform.
@JM-us3fr
@JM-us3fr 2 жыл бұрын
I think “woke” is just a new word for something old. The young use it because it’s trendy and the old use it because the young use it and so is therefore scary. Tale as old as time.
@Songriquole
@Songriquole 2 жыл бұрын
The passage on Goerg Moeller is odd, given that it's preceded by a bit which mostly agrees with his analysis, the bit on political ideas, moral stances, being part of social mechanisms much like those ruing fashion, meaning it's part of a performance. Your analysis and that of Moeller largely overlap in this sense, with the bourdieusian (if that's a word) perspective. Of course you focus on Moeller's claim on civil religion, but this claim he's making is supported by this bourdieusian/sociological analysis of political ideas also being performances, appearances presented to the public sphere. To me it never seemed like Moeller was critizing wokeism by punching down (especially given he makes the same critique about conservatives - in this sense he'd be punching "up" as well, if he was punching at all).
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