Ran like Secretariat for 4 races, legend!

Yes, but the horse was highly likely on PED's.

tbl4r1 that owner not allowed on drugs

@@tbl4r126 i agree. seems likely he was juiced

Drugs are a wonderful thing

@@kitsunedao3895 you must have bet against him.

​@@greatwhitisheven after mortality, naysayers. Conjuring attention only feeds their dismay. Karma, will never enchant them to success. God bless, Arrogate, Amen.

Greatest performance enhancing drugs...

I did I singled Arrogate I was all over Arrogate Big Baffert fan I couldn’t believe he was 11-1 Baffert is the Greatest pace of the race is the key to any race Speed rules Bullet Bob

I think the spectators were stunned seeing a Mike Smith/Bob Baffert go off at 11-1 win emphatically like a 1-1 favorite

JerGer918 Maybe 🤷🏻‍♂️

Shades of General Assembly in 1979

You missed Secretariat then

@@TR-vr5pz I’ve seen the replay of the race many times and yes Secretariat’s Belmont win is special but I wasn’t alive back then. I did watch this race live and without a doubt nothing before 2004 or after this race has come close to this.

@@ezequielcrespofigueroa2047 not even close and the horse was drugged--its a no contest

@@TR-vr5pz how do you know?

Arrogate foi o único cavalo que me fez lembrar do lendário Secretariat em Kentucky Derby. iniciando em último lugar para chegar em primeiro. O tempo foi de 1:59:40!! Record.. Arrogate 1: 59,36 !! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iahlmLemu5usoWQ.html

JO Tobin 1977 Swaps General Assembly 1979 Travers They probably belong somewhere on the list too

@@DanielSong39 Secretariat's son: General Assembly, 1979 Travers exactly 2.0 minutes

Now he has Seize the Grey on his sire list.

Although his Travers win was incredible, his Dubai World Cup win tops it. He just shouldn't of won that race yet he did.

I'm so conflicted about Arrogate. During his winning streak of 4 G1s, I came to think he was the only dirt horse I had seen -- along with Spectacular Bid -- who "might" be as good as Secretariat. And Arrogate remains among my top 10 ten favorite racehorses -- the ones I've rooted for the hardest -- which is a different thing than ranking him being amont the greatest. But then he finished up a short career with 3 straight losses, 2 of them embarrassing performances. Psychological burnout? Did he just despise Del Mar? Even before the questions came up about Baffert, I was ambivalent about Arrogate making the Hall of Fame based on performance in four races. And even before the questions came up about Baffert, I was opposed to Justify, with a 6-race "career," no wins against older horses, and (so far as I can remember) no wins against horses as good as Chrome or Gun Runner, going into the Hall of Fame. The best horse I can remember Justify beating was Shaman Ghost. I've long thought too much emphasis is put on the Triple Crown. As things stand now, I don't think either Arrogate or Justify deserves the Hall of Fame. Prediction: Arrogate won't make it. Justify will. I will be disgusted the day Justify does. But if Arrogate does make it, I'll be ambivalently gratified.

​@marysueeasteregg Arrogate was never the same after Dubai. Apparently he lost 90 lbs after Dubai and his grooms said he wasn't the same horse after. Bob Baffert said himself (love him or hate him he has alot of experience around racehorses) said that after Dubai he didn't want to run anymore. But Baffert himself said that Arrogate was the most talented horse he ever trained, but that he simply lost interest in racing after Dubai. I heard someone else say he hit his head on the gate in Dubai and was a nervous wreck after. I don't know if that is true or not, but the fact remains Arrogate was not the same horse after Dubai for some reason. However, his level of talent for his 4 famous races is almost unprecedented.

It was how he won & breaking the track record that u have to say WOW! That was total domination!

Good point. Thanks!

maybe so... but in the entire history of the Travers... nobody has ever run it faster...... when every horse starts out.. you could say they also came out of nowhere. Arrogate has proven himself.

It means the horse proved worthy! it means we all agree he proved amazing.

They don't call it the Graveyard of Champions for nothing

And Mr big money himself Mike Smith!

John,whos the best 3 year tonight in the US? I say Songbird....

+paul patane Lol. I believe u are right about that with Songbird! Or maybe Arrogate? Btw, let me know when these donkeys get to the 16th pole! Wow. Alot of no show performances today in this race

Im taking nothing away from Arrogate,but too me Song Bird has a crazy good resume. Would love to see her head to Classic

+paul patane It would make no sense if Songbird were to run in the distaff. Against Beholder? Songbird vs Chrome & Arrogante would be fantastic!

I'd like to see Songbird take on the boys, she's handily beaten the other fillies.

Arrogate was a freak of his kind.

Maddi Me Too. and my Name is Maddie! lol

Ilove horses123 lol what's up😁

Nothing XD

Madd i

What

And it was!

About what?

Having backed him in the Derby, I salute your magnanimous spirit but abstain from joining you.

@@waremblem3405 Time proved paul patane right ultimately. BCC and Pegasus World Cup winner, Horse of the Year, almost 16 million dollars in earnings. He'll make the Hall of Fame. And he's got off to a terrific start as a sire, though that's a separate issue from his quality as a racehorse.

That’s right and that’s why secretariat is the greatest of all time!

Mike Warren he’s the best horse in history

@@mikewarren1401 Juiced up horse that the public were conned into supporting. Forego was the real horse of 1973. Raced into his 7th year and broke records and carried all kinds of damning weight.

Chrome is A Rocket Out the Gate and will Have the Lead!!

Think Chrome could sustain the speed? Be pretty sweet to see Chrome, Frosted and another horse battling it out on the lead.

Yeah, that was a little odd. I also wondered why Mike Smith pushed Arrogate so hard when he was ten lengths in front and the wire was approaching. I don't know if he knew the track record was within reach or if he teaching him to finish a race like you said, but it was a bit quizzical.

To answer you. Smith said that he never ran through the wire in his previous races, and was geared down. This time they wanted him to run through the wire.

And break a 140 year track record!

It looks like its happening!

Well stated, its a shame what happened to this horse. The dope plus the eacort provided by the jockey on Baffert's other entry American Freedom made Arrogate win look far better then it actually was

Breaking News! Exaggerated just reached the 1/4 pole. Lol (yes I am being sarcastic. Now 2-10 on a fast track.) and I believe CREATOR is mounting a bid even though the race is over.

Breaking News! Exaggerated just reached the 1/4 pole. Lol (yes I am being sarcastic. Now 2-10 on a fast track.) and I believe CREATOR is mounting a bid even though the race is over.

Ya. i couldn't believe all the hype on Exg and Kent D on a dry surface. Suckers bet at 2-1

Im glad I wasnt losing my mind. GOV Malibu went off at 7-1. The morning line of 12-1 made no sense. horse ran a traffic filled Belmont and 2nd place finish in Dandy and was 12-1. uhhh. He ran okay today,made a move on turn. i think Clement will put him on the turf.

I was surprised to see Connect 12-1 and Gift Box 23-1. That really surprised me,the public didn't like the Curlin Stakes. They were right.

Hey, did Arrogate ever hit the board in the Breeder's Cup? lolol.....

Frosted won the Whitney, but didn't set a record in it. He set a record in the Metropolitan Handicap, run at Belmont.

Fukkk no not here in saratoga

He came. He saw. He conquered.

Have YOU seen it yet? The rest of us did....

Its not a good question, Arrogate is miles better than Pharoah. Times dont lie.

Huh? Of course Champions should face eachother, that's the whole point of a championship.

uh what? That makes no sense at all.... how does a champion become a champion if they don't race against the best there is? You want to make a horse Horse of the Year because he/she consistently beats allowance horses????Good grief...

Whoa, burn --no low-hanging fruit safe from the clutches of you

Come oooon. You know that almost every record time came as a horse was 3 years old. It is not right an old, tired 50 years old man race against a 23 years old. That is it.

There is only 2 years difference. I would bet a 23-year-old Bolt against a 21-year-old of your choice.

If it works...

Bob's three year old boys, in particular, are the best around for my money. From Silver Charm to Arrogate with a couple of all-time greats in between like Pharoah and Point Given. Dortmund had a heck of a three year old season, losing only to Pharoah. Another staple of Bob's stable is that his boys are typically big and muscular. Todd Pletcher usually goes home with the Eclipse Award but there's no one better than Bob.

Excellent. There are the one-hit wonders and he well may end up as one of them on that dreaded list.

I think we got our answer in the Breeders' Cup today. :)

We sure did! Comment (above) CANCELLED!

Yeah, folks got totally carried away --extraordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds and all of that

So, I guess people didn't get ahead of themselves? lol

Not until Arrogate proved he was an all time great. By then what gun runner did was irrelevant

@@playitsafe20 Arrogate won 4 big races, 3 of them against open company Gun Runner won 5 big races, all of them against open company So Gun Runner actually won more big races in his career.

@@DanielSong39 Nothing against Gun Runner, but his races fall far short of the historical impact of Arrogate's world-shattering performances. Arrogate was a shell of himself when Gun Runner defeated him. It is indeed unfortunate Arrogate was unable to sustain longer his all time great performance level. Gun Runner simply never performed at an all time great level. Gun Runner was a very good performer but could never compete at the level Arrogate achieved multiple times. Simple fact.

@@playitsafe20 Arrogate had higher peak value but Gun Runner did win more big races. These animals are fragile creatures and longevity is also part of the sport.

@@DanielSong39 Except Arrogate's wins put him in a class with Dr. Fager, Secretariat, and Seattle Slew. Gun Runner's serial wins are nothing of the kind.