How Nintendo Ruined its Western Studio | Gaming History

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The Obsessive Gamer

The Obsessive Gamer

29 күн бұрын

NST was a western studio of Nintendo, known for developing many acclaimed games. Upon starting work on PROJECT HAMMER, Nintendo involvement led to their downfall. Today we shall explore this.
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@BLAMigator
@BLAMigator 27 күн бұрын
So basically, it's the same as what happened to SEGA during the Saturn era.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 27 күн бұрын
Pretty much, but at least this was the one small instance of Nintendo screwing up unlike Sega haha
@GANONdork123
@GANONdork123 25 күн бұрын
Seems to be a pretty common thing for Japanese game companies.
@terrysyvertson9205
@terrysyvertson9205 27 күн бұрын
Basically they let it happen because they wanted it to happen
@sahahorria
@sahahorria 27 күн бұрын
That's right what I was thinking. Nintendo top brass are extremely cunning people, hence their success.
@STARSVeteran
@STARSVeteran 27 күн бұрын
I’m getting deja vu from Black Mass.
@Gernam12
@Gernam12 24 күн бұрын
I hope F-Zero 99, Bowser's Fury, and Mario vs DK is a good sign of the studio reviving.
@vianabdullah2837
@vianabdullah2837 27 күн бұрын
They recently developed F-Zero 99 and the Mario vs. Donkey Kong remake. Their first full games in a while.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 26 күн бұрын
Yeah but one is an asset flip and the other is just a graphical upgrade (not sure if they reused the code or not). I think the idea is a brand new game from there made from scratch
@ShadowEl
@ShadowEl 27 күн бұрын
It's worth noting regarding Pokemon Puzzle League that, from what I've read, NST did very little development work on it. Nintendo had already developed Panel De Pon 64 but decided to scrap it, and Nintendo of America decided to salvage it as a Pokemon project so NST in collaboration with 4Kids Entertainment reskinned Panel De Pon 64 as Pokemon Puzzle League.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 26 күн бұрын
oh that's interesting to hear. Might be a video in itself to explore in the future. Thanks for letting me know!
@BlueAmpharos
@BlueAmpharos 27 күн бұрын
0:33 I was excited for Project Hammer when it was announced:(
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 26 күн бұрын
Yeah same. Could have become a robust action game if it got proper love i'd think
@Reoko77
@Reoko77 27 күн бұрын
Im glad someones talking about the NST nintendo. They always get overlooked. I do agree with you on the fact the reason they failed was on both sides. Going overbudget on a mid game when at a time your just recovering from the lackluster sales of the gamecube would put things in perspective for the jpn side. Hey, if you gotta retool your game into something else to salvage whats there and it plays better, then i'd say thats a good thing. But on the other side, the jpn team not treating the west like equals for years would produce mid results. If they at least gave them some more good brand names to work on, it definitely wouldve helped on morale. Gave em star fox, f zero or some other IPs you haven't touched in years like star tropics. If they worked more closely with them instead of treating them like a 3rd party, things wouldve been better. Its a shame cause everyone lost in this. All that potential lost. Hell, maybe working more closely with them couldve helped the wiiu get better games out on it. Its a damn shame the missed potential this couldve had.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 27 күн бұрын
Honestly if they got Star Fox at that time instead, they probably could have worked some serious magic. A real shame
@therealjaystone2344
@therealjaystone2344 27 күн бұрын
Next Level Games is gonna be next on the list
@elio7610
@elio7610 27 күн бұрын
i am surprised it even still exists after all that.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 27 күн бұрын
I mean someone has to be dev support and a master of porting games
@ArmaBiologica35
@ArmaBiologica35 27 күн бұрын
Supposedly they were also gonna make a Nintendo 64 adaptation of Hatty Potter and the sorcerer's stone that was more based on the book than the movie.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 27 күн бұрын
Yep. A big shame that never happened
@LeonAlkoholik67
@LeonAlkoholik67 27 күн бұрын
9:58 Smoking in office 💀
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 27 күн бұрын
A lot more of a norm in Japan then you think... at least back then. No idea about now.
@LobotomyTC
@LobotomyTC 26 күн бұрын
Japan is way cooler than us about that.
@PrimeStarStudios
@PrimeStarStudios 26 күн бұрын
As much as I love Nintendo, I can't in good faith defend them here. They basically screwed over a studio that had hidden potential! Man, that sucks....
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 26 күн бұрын
Yeah for as good as Nintendo is, it sucks that they fumbled this hard here. Hopefully NST one day recovers.
@PrimeStarStudios
@PrimeStarStudios 26 күн бұрын
@@TheObsessiveGamer Same here, man! We can only hope.
@masterluisYTV
@masterluisYTV 26 күн бұрын
Very nice video! 💯 i am still waiting for that project hammer game
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 26 күн бұрын
Thanks! I don't think it's worth waiting at this point lol
@Shaqazooloo0
@Shaqazooloo0 26 күн бұрын
I think things might be starting to look up for them now though, having recently done F-Zero 99 and the Mario Vs Donkey Kong remake. Still small projects but now that Nintendo has a new in-house porting studio and shiver entertainment we might see some more stuff from NST now.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 26 күн бұрын
It's better than before ngl but it's still just an asset flip in one instance and the other a graphical update. Until I see them making a whole new game I can't say they have recovered yet. Hopefully your theory is correct though. Nintendo needs a bigger western presence
@napoleonfeanor
@napoleonfeanor 27 күн бұрын
You know, spending sooooo much on cut scenes before having a fun gameplay?
@ShadowEl
@ShadowEl 27 күн бұрын
Nintendo wanted a Western game...so they made it the western AAA way! lmao.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 27 күн бұрын
Which is kinda odd for NST to do since they usually were gameplay first in all their other project.
@napoleonfeanor
@napoleonfeanor 26 күн бұрын
@@ShadowEl It wasn't as bad back then. Companies still made gameplay before paying for cut scenes. That is really stupid.
@DylanYoshi
@DylanYoshi 26 күн бұрын
​@@napoleonfeanor Your logic makes no sense. The video outright states that the cutscenes were outsourced to a completely different company, which would allow the internal team to focus on the gameplay. The cutscenes should have had no impact on how the game played. And it's not like having a lot of cutscenes means that the gameplay is bad regardless. The Metal Gear Solid series is infamous for how many cutscenes it has, and its gameplay is pretty consistently awesome.
@napoleonfeanor
@napoleonfeanor 26 күн бұрын
​@@DylanYoshi​I said they spent the money for it before they had the proper gameplay. Especially Nintendo doesn't tolerate this as they focus on gameplay first. Metal Gear also had the gameplay first as it is a series. They just needed some changes for new games because the formula was already good. I also think the later games had cut scenes overkill.
@diegoestrada4389
@diegoestrada4389 27 күн бұрын
I think the entire Switch era has painted a bright future ahead of them. They barely did anything else in previous generations other than the obvious Mario vs. Donkey Kong games, but with the Switch, the amount of projects this time around have been the most that NST has ever worked on, and in the past few months now they put out pretty successful games like F-Zero 99 and recently the Mario vs. Donkey Kong GBA remake; I think with these there's a lot more potential now with the games they make, and also making Mario vs. Donkey Kong a really fun series again by bringing back the puzzle platformer formula as they've only been doing lemmings games and it got stale real quick, the remake is what the series needed to test the waters for the next game.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 27 күн бұрын
Well all they've been doing is development support, so Nintendo still doesn't trust them to work on their own like they use to. Granted maybe these are the first steps and hopefully they can grow again and return to their former glory
@BlueAmpharos
@BlueAmpharos 27 күн бұрын
0:23 If by "Hit" you mean the multiplayer, and not the single player with two bosses being fought over and over with minor changes
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 26 күн бұрын
We remember it for its multiplayer mainly :P (I still didn't mind the single player much either)
@danieljimenez1989
@danieljimenez1989 27 күн бұрын
This video completely overlooks the fact that NST developed F-Zero 99. So they're not rotting.
@OrchidEleven
@OrchidEleven 27 күн бұрын
that's insignificant in the scheme of what the video is talking about
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 27 күн бұрын
F-Zero 99 while it was "developed" by them, just know that it literally just the SNES game that they took, ported it (as they are the king of porting), and updated it (as they also are the king of that) to have mass multiplayer. This was not a new or original project and thus still fits exactly what i'm saying
@danieljimenez1989
@danieljimenez1989 27 күн бұрын
@@TheObsessiveGamer F-Zero 99 is not a port of F-Zero for the SNES, there's no code from F-ZERO in 99.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 27 күн бұрын
@@danieljimenez1989 the code may have been rebuilt but the assets all have been carried over. It's still using something as a basis. Not something that they built from the ground up
@mozydiaz8296
@mozydiaz8296 26 күн бұрын
@@danieljimenez1989 When you look at it it's exactly the same game 🤣🤣
@jess648
@jess648 16 күн бұрын
project hammer looked like s pretty average action game for the time minus motion controls
@jess648
@jess648 16 күн бұрын
>a good chunk of resources was spent on outsourcing cutscenes lmao truly a sign of a lost hidden gem that never got made
@garlandstrife
@garlandstrife 27 күн бұрын
Nintendo ALWAYS self sabotages their Western studios.
@user-be3qc7re9o
@user-be3qc7re9o 27 күн бұрын
I wouldn't be too sure about that. They are working with Next Level and Retro.
@therealjaystone2344
@therealjaystone2344 27 күн бұрын
@@user-be3qc7re9oafter battle league, I doubt the studio will last
@garlandstrife
@garlandstrife 27 күн бұрын
@@user-be3qc7re9o it’s just a matter of time.
@peluquin98
@peluquin98 26 күн бұрын
​@@user-be3qc7re9o its been like 7 years since metroid prime 4 logo was revealed ☠️
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 26 күн бұрын
Retro and NLG seem to be doing well though
@Adamtendo_player_1
@Adamtendo_player_1 19 күн бұрын
I’m a Nintendo fan and defend them a lot but I can’t defend them here.
@napoleonfeanor
@napoleonfeanor 27 күн бұрын
Didn't the Gamecube sell better in the West?
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 27 күн бұрын
yeah, but next to the PS2 and Xbox....
@Gewehr_3
@Gewehr_3 27 күн бұрын
People from Washington are very sensitive, Im not surprised they started crying racism after Nintendo Japan cracked down on them for a subpar product. Project hammer looked awful.
@fernie-fernandez
@fernie-fernandez 27 күн бұрын
Now imagine the case for MicroSoft & Valve…
@Vulpas
@Vulpas 27 күн бұрын
Yep, I laughed at that part.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 27 күн бұрын
Project Hammer may have looked mediocre, but I do think Nintendo HQ could have massaged it into a proper action game.
@Vulpas
@Vulpas 27 күн бұрын
@@TheObsessiveGamer I highly doubt it tbh. I saw no potential there.
@Zack-id1cl
@Zack-id1cl 27 күн бұрын
Pokemon puzzle league was trash tho
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 26 күн бұрын
Whatever you may feel about it, it is still nostalgic to many, so it stands haha
@zerobyte802
@zerobyte802 27 күн бұрын
Yeah well now they’re about to return the favor by SweetBaby-ing up the place like the rest of the gaming industry.
@Bored_Barbarian
@Bored_Barbarian 27 күн бұрын
Basically racism. Ouch. 😢
@Vulpas
@Vulpas 27 күн бұрын
waaaaah
@Vulpas
@Vulpas 27 күн бұрын
Based Nintendo, they should have stayed racist.
@NitwitsWorld
@NitwitsWorld 27 күн бұрын
Bruh…… 😂
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