What is Natural Family Planning?

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Жыл бұрын

There are many misconceptions about Natural Family Planning. Elizabeth addresses what is Natural Family Planning (also known as NFP or Fertility Awareness Method) and tries to debunk some of the misconceptions.
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@cateclism316
@cateclism316 Жыл бұрын
The kind of self-control to save oneself for marriage is similar to the kind of self-control needed to practice NFP. Our culture is so decadent that self-control is considered "repressive" or harmful. I heard a lot of this in college.
@TheologyoftheBodyInstitute
@TheologyoftheBodyInstitute Жыл бұрын
Certainly a call to self-mastery, sacrifice, and love!
@crazyedswonderfulworldofso9370
@crazyedswonderfulworldofso9370 Жыл бұрын
I like your enthusiasm Elizabeth. Great video!
@Rivers9679
@Rivers9679 Жыл бұрын
This video gave me a new perspective on sex and my sexual energy.
@Electric_
@Electric_ Жыл бұрын
You’re exactly right that people don’t trust God, and want to take matters into their own hands. I believe contraception to some degree shows how much a person loves and trusts God and their spouse. Using it shows you don’t love the other person enough to embrace them in their full capacity as a human, because you fear a loss of time or money down the road. Of course there are some exceptions here, but those are not the norm.
@ellisrhoades9895
@ellisrhoades9895 Жыл бұрын
Protestant Christian here. I enjoyed the video and found it helpful, but the argument for why NFP is different from, say, using a condom, ultimately fails in my eyes. The reason you stated for the difference seems to be: in NFP you're allowing natural processes to let God do what He chooses with your body rather than using something unnatural to take that opportunity away from Him. But couldn't that argument be used, like... everywhere? Especially in medicine? What if God is using the opportunity of the way your body functions to give you a rare disease that will eventually end in the amputation of a limb? Wouldn't it then be "meddling" to use an unnatural medicine to stop that? Or even if one used a medicine or surgery to take away something most people would find advantageous rather than disadvantageous... would it be sin to use that medication or have that surgery, since it deprives God of the opportunity to use that natural attribute? Let's take this extreme case---say you have a rare mutation that, 75% of the time, kills the patient. But 25% of the time, it gives them drastically improved focus, or drastically reduced need to sleep, with no downsides. That would be something good that would benefit the Kingdom of God. It's a natural process, so one should not cure the condition---one should not deprive God of the opportunity to bless with that 25% chance, right? The idea seems fair enough on its own until one applies its reasoning to other medical situations. I'm open to correction here, but this idea of "natural vs unnatural" seems self-defeating to me.
@Electric_
@Electric_ Жыл бұрын
@@ellisrhoades9895 well there’s a glaring difference here, which is that medicine healed people as Christ healed people. Condoms actively prevent humans from existing because we want to have sex without the consequence of sex, we want to use another person for sexual pleasure and delete their procreative abilities because they’re not convenient to us. The issue isn’t unnatural meddling so much as it’s active rejection of a part of yourself, your spouse and potential children. NFP can be done with an evil heart too. If you are avoiding kids to buy a vacation home or because you want more time to play video games, that is probably an illegitimate use of it. But when people have good reasons to avoid having more kids, at least temporarily, at least their sexual interactions are fully accepting of one another and children. When contraception is used, the sexual act is rendered evil and selfish, it is inward, focused purely on pleasure, and not a spirit of mutual self giving and full acceptance. Protestant Christians universally condemned all contraception until 1930’s. Calvin and Luther believed it to be absolutely damnable behavior, akin to murder. The Anglicans authorized it first, and other denominations slowly followed. If God is the same yesterday, today and forever, then those who follow Him should reasonably have a consistent morality that cuts across centuries. Protestant leaders of one century should be in lock step with those of the next century, or else how can you trust protestant leaders today are correct on critical matters?
@mysterypersontwentytwo3262
@mysterypersontwentytwo3262 Жыл бұрын
@@ellisrhoades9895 I agree with you that justifying NFP solely on the means of "natural vs unnatural" doesn't have much merit. There are, however, other reasons as to why it is acceptable whereas contraception isn't. I understand you're Protestant, but the Catholic viewpoint on sex (as we are discussing Catholic doctrine) is that it must be both unitive and procreative at all times. Unitive of the spouses, but open to new life. NFP allows one to avoid pregnancy, while still being open to it. Think about what you're saying with your actions. Using NFP is like sending someone an invitation although they are unlikely to show up, but you will still be happy if they show up. Using contraception is like sending an un-invitation saying don't come. We also have to remember what our actions say to our spouses, the marital acts says "I want you totally", whereas introducing contraception adds the stipulation "except that part". We lie through our actions. One great resource that explains this all very well, and what I kind of cited here, is the book Made This Way by Leila Miller and Trent Horn. Hopefully this gives you something more to think about. God bless!
@ellisrhoades9895
@ellisrhoades9895 Жыл бұрын
@@mysterypersontwentytwo3262 But if you used NFP perfectly and every time you had sex there was no egg present, it would be literally impossible to get pregnant. Whereas, even using contraception perfectly will still give you a chance for pregnancy if the egg is present. What you just said actually does make sense to me---the idea of intent and trust in God. But I see no real difference in intent between NFP and contraception if in both cases one knows there is a chance for pregnancy but ultimately does not want to get pregnant. Even contraception "gives God a chance." I have heard of Trent Horn, perhaps I'll look into the book you mentioned.
@mysterypersontwentytwo3262
@mysterypersontwentytwo3262 Жыл бұрын
@@ellisrhoades9895 I see what you mean. I think a big distinction is also the intent behind it. There is nothing wrong with having sex in marriage, there is nothing wrong with abstinence. Contraception, as mentioned, introduces an outside barrier that impedes within the procreative aspect of the marital act. It's definitely a struggle to understand. My advice is to take this to prayer and ask God about it, and definitely look into that book! It covers so many issues so eloquently. Again, God bless and have a good one.
@marktapia8327
@marktapia8327 Жыл бұрын
Is Blaise a baby or a cat? I legitimately cannot tell from the sling.
@w4in
@w4in Жыл бұрын
Baby
@TheologyoftheBodyInstitute
@TheologyoftheBodyInstitute Жыл бұрын
Most definitely a baby. lol
@kylealandercivilianname2954
@kylealandercivilianname2954 Жыл бұрын
People have sexual problems because their hearts are fundamally broken. It has nothing to do with "controlling urges" and has everything to do with despair and loneliness. As someone who faces temptation everyday it is just a symptom of feeling lonely and sad. Whenever I am most happy is when those urges are non-existent.
@jaqian
@jaqian 11 ай бұрын
It's both. When you are young it's about control. Also as an adult you need to recognise when you are the most vulnerable and when temptation or boredom or stress kicks in.
@guillaumeparent6599
@guillaumeparent6599 Жыл бұрын
This video is confusing. Family « planning » cannot be natural. If you use temperature or calculations to avoid union with your partner certain parts of the month, it is not natural. It is less grave than chemical or physical contraception, but it is the same distortion of natural human behaviour, the intent is the same. Also, women usually have more libido during ovulation! If two partners want to unite without any grave danger, and abstain from union, they are using contraception. But if a couple agrees to abstain from intercourse for Lent, but has intercourse after, especially during the fertility period where women have naturally higher libido, this is perfectly healthy and good!
@liborhlavac2181
@liborhlavac2181 Жыл бұрын
It depends on how you understand the meaning of "natural". If "natural" means to have sex when you are having the highest libido than natural is to not plan anything and to not put any barriers nor contraception and to have as many children as possible... But NFP is an invitation from God to ask Him every day for His plans to our lives and family size, family goodness. And if we see there is a really serious reason why to not have other baby we have an opportunity to not be single for the rest of our life but to have joy and benefit from spouse communion.
@arundathirose7563
@arundathirose7563 Жыл бұрын
You do realise woman can still have high libido during things like menopause and also you are tracking what is naturally there.
@jamieweiss7897
@jamieweiss7897 10 ай бұрын
I do think that the Catholic view on human sexuality makes some good points, but I think that they err - they literally make an error - on the side of caution. A few Protestant points to make here: 1. Contraception is not a new phenomenon. Barrier methods were known in the 1st century. The "pull out method" was practiced in the 1st century. Yet neither Jesus nor the New Testament writers discuss them at all. The silence of scripture here is notable. Yes there is the Old Testament story of Onan but his sin wasn't the pull out method, it was failing to make his late brother's wife pregnant, a violation of Mosaic law. He would have sinned in the same manner if he had abstained as well. 2. Dr. West seems to indicate in his various videos a belief that separating the unitive and procreative aspects of sex within marriage is permissible when God separates them, just not when we artificially do. As I understand it that is the rationale behind NFP: "taking advantage" of the infertile periods which God has, ostensibly, ordained. What then prohibits oral sex? Does that not take advantage of a natural option that God gives us to experience the unitive act without procreation? There is nothing artificial about oral sex. It is as natural as NFP. Or what about when a husband performs oral on his wife? If Dr. West believes that God intentionally designed the body (rather than it being only the result of evolution) then why did God give women an organ (the clitoris) whose sole purpose is sexual pleasure? This organ plays no direct role in conceiving or pregnancy (other than making sex more desirable for the woman). Is he aware that it is possible for a woman to have an orgasm from breast stimulation alone? It seems that in these matters God has separated the unitive (and yes, pleasurable) aspects of sex from procreation. If Dr. West is sincere in his claim that "when God separates the unitive and procreative dimensions of sex it is permissible" then why this inconsistency. 3. The truth didn't change in the 1930s when Protestants started overtly accepting contraception, but our scientific understanding of conception, pregnancy, etc. did. We now have a much better understanding of how egg and sperm work. We have the scientific understanding to know that preventing an egg and sperm from joining is not the same as destroying a new human genome. Ejaculating into a condom is no different from abstaining from sex during the fertile period in terms of biology. This can prevent us from sinning by using abortifactent methods. 4. Not every woman has a clockwork/predictable cycle, thus making NFP an unreliable method of enjoying the unitive dimension of sex if procreation isn't an option (such as realizing that you don't have the resources to care for an additional child). 5. It is possible, when a husband and wife know each other's bodies extremely well, for men to have multiple orgasms. Not multiple ejaculations, but a man can learn how to have an orgasm without an ejaculation. This doesn't involve any artificial means as well. If anything it's mostly mental. I've done it. Dr. West seems to think that the only way a man should orgasm is to ejaculate into his wife, but what of male orgasm that doesn't produce ejaculation? Hypothetically a couple that has reached this level of sexual proficiency could have sex during the fertile period and just not take it to ejaculation. How is this different from using a condom? (To be fair, this is a mostly hypothetical example, as in practice the ejaculation-less orgasms typically lead to an orgasm with ejaculation later on in the "marital embrace" but I think it still shows that God gives us many legitimate means to separate the unitive/pleasurable and procreative dimensions of sex). If anything I see it as God's reward for taking the time and discipline to master one of his greatest gifts - human sexuality. Much like mastering the art of cooking allows us to enjoy the pleasurable aspects of food more greatly, sex is an art and mastering it leads to greater intimacy and, yes, pleasure within a marriage. But another main reason I am convinced that the Protestant position is correct is the lived experience I have. My wife and I have two wonderful children who we adore, but recognize that we are not equipped to handle more than that, so I had a vasectomy. I see it now as I saw it then, as a way to sacrifically love my wife, undergoing the procedure (which is rather simple and not very painful, you're a bit sore for a day or two) myself rather than subject her to a more invasive surgery, or hormonal methods (which I don't like due to their side effects). Rather than our sexual relationship "devolving" into me seeking pleasure from her as an object, or her doing the same for me, if anything our physical intimacy has deepened. I enjoy sex more when I know she is enjoying it. She has told me (and demonstrates) that she feels the same way. Our marital embrace is an absolutely spiritual union, and I firmly believe that the strength of that intimacy does reflect the way that Jesus loves the church. I've listened to Catholic speakers claim that contraception leads to the opposite outcome and damages marriages, but it simply isn't true, I have lived experience to the contrary. Finally, a common Catholic argument views contraception as the cause of rampant sexual immorality in our society today. There is a philosophical point to be made: just because something permits evil, or even makes doing evil easier, this does not make the thing evil itself. For example, drunk driving is a crime and a sin. Should we ban cars? Should we ban alcohol? Or should we recognize that the responsible use of cars is fine, the responsible use of alcohol is fine, it comes down to how they are used. Finally I will say, I have considered here and there if I should join the Catholic church. I have ultimately decided not to and while this is not the only reason why, it is a major one. I can't join a Church that holds that my wife and I are living in sin because of a deeply personal choice that we made, which benefits our marriage, that we prayerfully considered, asked for guidance from the Holy Spirit, examined the scriptures, and found no basis in scripture for it being a sin. It's not that we decided to tolerate a little sin, it's that we believe in our heart-of-hearts, after much reflection and consideration, that the Catholic church is in error here.
@MrFluffykat
@MrFluffykat Жыл бұрын
Excuse me....I don't remember asking GOD for. a sex drive
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