I love dead body hitting in fighting games and I really hate when games don't include it or remove it with a patch. In Persona 4 Arena Ultimax, if you finish a round with at least 50 meter you get unlimited meter to do whatever, aside from supers, so you can mash One More! Cancels or EX moves for a second or two. In the older BlazBlue titles you could THROW dead bodies. That's probably my favorite post round disrespect.

Legitimately surprised you didn’t mention the Lethal League games, which ONLY allow you to directly attack your opponent after the round ends. You can juggle and throw them for a few seconds and it’s amazing

I remember when Color Edit was a semi-regular feature in fighting games and not completely removed in the name of making easy DLC packs.

Post KO combos are a staple "system" in Soul Calibur and I hope it's never removed.

In Lethal League Blaze it's basically customary to juggle the opponent you just turned white. It's funny, harmless, expected and it's part of the reason why I love the game.

The ultimate post-ko flex: after a KO in ST Ken can crazy kick forever if he repeatedly 1 frames them

On X-Men Vs Street Fighter and Marvel Vs Capcom, when winning with Gambit, I would try to perform his Royal Flush super as the screen paused to catch the in-between frames of the start-up (if done right, it’d look like he was doing his own version of the D-X chop) or the moment right before execution to see the cards in his hands. Always loved that pose.

Spamming tech between stocks in melee 😎

I wish FGs had Dark Souls' gesture system, so you could communicate with your opponent mid match without having to set up voice chat. Doing gestures in the time after you kill an opponent in PVP but before they vanish is the best feeling.

This was a really specific chance to show off the post round stun state and character loss scream of Soulcalibur as a series. Doing Nightmare stomps on X and watching her stun animation loop was always really funny. That and the post Ring Out self Ring Out.

it reminds me of the moments between stocks in platform fighters like melee or rivals. people tend to spam tech skill, whether it be platform movement or multishines or something like that. You're right these little moments tend to give a lot of personality.

Yes!! More fighting games should consider adding in this feature! The ONLY reason that I’m not spamming the entire Them’s Fighting Herds dev team with messages about this every single hour of every single day is because I don’t want to beat a dead horse.

In melee, spamming tech skill in between stocks.

I really like being able to juggle the opponent's body when they get knocked out in Lethal League

It's a known fact that if you don't corpse-hop or ring yourself out at the end of the round in Virtua Fighter, that round doesn't count 😆

I particulary like falling off stage in Soul Calibur after i ring someone out... or if i see the chance in general.

A shame you didn't bring up Soul Calibur, especially in how they allow stage walkoff by removing edge collision

The best part about the MK "Finish Him" moment is if you're already mid combo, you can keep the combo going as long as you can and then afterwards, finish them off normally with whatever you want. Making them watch that last combo, into whatever else you do is peak expression, especially if they instead do last combo into brutality.

Quick aside, it was actually Virtua Fighter that started the whole character customization thing. Everyone seems to give credit to Tekken for that. I guess that's what happens when your game is the more popular one.

I always come away from your videos with a little bit more love for the minor aspects of fighting games!

Chip specifically in +R post round super is amazing. both of them.

I prefer postround mashing like in 3rd over fatalities from MK. You can't really show your personality with a few predefined cutscenes. And requiring specific input makes fatality more "meaningful", more disrespectful, which is not good imo.

It's an interesting topic. Personally one of my favourite examples of post-round actions is the post-round taunt in 3rd Strike, mostly because due to taunting actually giving benefits in normal gameplay but what benefits taunts do give does not carry over between rounds the post-round taunt unlike the normal gameplay taunt serves no benefit and is there just to show off your character's taunt before their win animation. It just hits differently when you know it can be justified in the match as "Q just wants more health and taunting is actually part of his meta" or "Ken wanted to have extra damage on his next combo" but when it's post-round it's just a taunt, nothing else.

I like doing ky's 5k at round end, just because it looks so dismissive. Like, "let me push this thing out of the way so I can go do something more interesting".

this is such a huge part of why i enjoy mvc1 and nobody talks about it like it makes winning so extra

it's not enough to just get KO'd in VF, they gotta 3-string your corpse out of the ring too

It honestly takes salt away when I get beat up in Killer Instinct and they combo me for another 30 seconds

I have a few different ones for 3rd Strike. Chun-Li: overhead somersault, Akuma: light punch into fierce juggle, Twelve: double back medium kick (AKA the Russian squat dance), Elena: super jump, Sean: basketball taunt, Hugo: secret Poison taunt, and Q or Alex: light kick.

Played a ton of Soul Calibur II with a coworker. He's got a really good Mitsurugi and I have a mediocre Nightmare, but our matches are usually super tense. If I win a round and need an extra moral pump, I'll stomp his character on the ground after the KO just to hype me up XD

I’ve made the conscious decision recently that whenever I win I will wiggle as quickly as can. I gotta boogie on the opponent

I agree very heavily with this, I know it's a lot of work for very little payoff but I wish Smash had more victory screens because something a lot of people miss is that you can choose the victory screen using the d-pad and it goes unappreciated but it is a form of expression. Whenever I play Melee and win with Peach always always I select the "Oh did I win?" Victory screen

My main concern after a round/game is over is being able to move on quickly, either to rematch or to leave. I don’t like fatalities or KI ultras because they make me sit there, win or lose, when I really just want to move on. I’m much more ok with the short, one or two attack post game stuff like in 3rd strike. Juggle me for one more hit, whatever, just don’t waste my time.

In X-men COTA, the start button between rounds is essential. Since it's 1v1 rounds, players can carry the opponent to the corner and start the round with a great position advantage.

I love in smash bros melee how player are schmoovin' af when they take a stock

I really love how this channel focuses many overlooked aspects of fighting games

It really is the little mechanics like dead body punching, taunts, mercy, etc. that can make a game stick out in your memory. Mentioning the parallels between game genres actually brought me back to my Team Fortress 2 days, where for a short period post-game the losing team members would throw their arms over their heads in surrender while the winning team got to hunt them down with critical damage. I have so many memories of crit-rocketing entire teams after getting a clutch back-cap victory or managing to completely dodge the enemy fire coming at me after a loss, that even if it rubbed salt in the wound pretty often, the fun and memorability of the mechanic ended up winning out completely in the long run.

Oh boy, I was actually wondering what's it called for when, after a death juggle, you just keep juggling your opponent for that one sec betwern matches to show them you had the win anyway. Thank you.

I don't play many fighting games. But I've watched all of your videos. You make VERY good content!

In the SFEX series, you can even super after KO, and it will not cost any super bar, nor it will do the super-freeze. You can spam Shinkuu Hadokens over your opponent's defeated body, or even miss Level 3 Super grabs on them for about 4 seconds.

Post round freedom is one of my favorite parts of soul calibur and it has so much depth depending on your character and the condition of your victory. Flailing yourself off the stage, practicing JFs, or just beating up on someones limp character adds so much.

i think more games should have mk's mercy system, getting to give the opp a tiny chance of coming back and then either beating them again or them actually coming back and beating you was really cool. i really like the way certain brutalities in that game are directly tied to the mercy system too to do even more to grief the other player

I hate that they got rid of post KO hits in SF4. There are some rare occasions where you can get a special cancel or fadc to git after the KO, but it isn't the same.

then in KOFUM when the fight is over for the last team menber, the screen goes to white and go to the victory screen, skipping the normal victory animation.

MKX has a really good version of this with Brutalities. You can continue a combo long after a match finishes and even uses grabs to extend them, all ending in a quick, stylish finisher.

Killer instinct's ultra combo comes to mind, it's basically the punching bodies concept turned into a silly mini game, since the length of your ultra combo ends up depending largely on your combo skill and how much metre you had left over at the end of a round

In Fighterz, I love hitting the opponent with any j2H that launches just to see the character fall all the way down. It's also fun to hit a fujin follow up as Anji post KO.

Something similar in smash is when you take a stock and you can taunt, wave dash/land on platforms, practice character specific tech etc.

I adore that you showed Black Jugger footage! I'd recognize that ol' hunk of coal anywhere!

Soulcalibur was always such a fun game due to this SC3 for the Ps2 in particular, had a glitch that was just so fun to do. Not only u are able to keep hitting your opponent (and everytime you do so they do their ko scream again) but if done right, they will scream again during your win screen for some reason. It even works for yourself if you suicide via ring out after winning, in which case your character will scream audibly AND visibly while doing their win pose

When playing SFV, I love the beginning match character starts, and don’t ever skip them myself, but I understand if some opponents prefer to get right into the match. However, if they then don’t skip the round win pose, it feels like they’re rubbing my nose into the loss. It’s almost enough to make me salty. Also, if they take way too long to accept a rematch after winning the first, it feels like they’re dunking me on their stream or something. Paranoia? Perhaps.

One of the cool things that people do in melee is flexing techskill between stocks People really go crazy with what they can do in a few seconds

I must say I love all the content you've put out regarding fighting games but I also love all the doom metal you put in your videos! Absolutely love it, and it gives your channel a unique feel!

Great topic, paired with Windhand like a fine wine. Never knew I needed a fighting game x doom/sludge channel but I'm here for it.

Being able to freestyle a combo on a dead opponent in Soul Calibur 2 and Skullgirls feels good

It's certainly an interesting take on it that I hadn't considered. There's a reason I like watching this channel! Excellent work as always. ^_^

It's like shooting all your rounds into the sky after winning in apex legends

i hope this channel blows up its so good.

Smash has a good idea when they added special zoom. You got hit by a strong, easily avoidable attack, and now time will slow and the camera will briefly zoom in to show exactly what happened. Now you feel humiliated and the audience is popping off at you. All of this technically doesn't directly affect gameplay, but it does make a difference in mind games.

You make great videos man, honestly

Your channel has the sickest chunes I love me some windhand

Jojo HFTF has a really interesting "punching bodies" mechanic mid round. You can't attack in round transitions but you can do anything else. You can set yourself up positionally, pick to start the round in stand on or off, or (my personal choice) taunt. However, taunting carries a massive risk in that if your taunt is too long, you can get punched round start. It then becomes a shopping cart dilemna situation and it's fun to see whether they'll punch me in the face or not or even taunt back. Additionally, if you are really good and really evil, you can make the game play the death sfx twice by landing a killing blow while in a grab animation. It's satisfying and disrespectful, but requires a useless setup.

All of your videos are great! While I definitely can vouch for the Punching Bodies technique working on me a little bit in certain games and messing with my mental (especially Strive where there doesn't seem to be a clear way to actually do so), you did help me realize that I do totally have a tell in that game - whenever i win a round as Anji in Strive, i ALWAYS try to throw out a shitsu/butterfly. it feels like i'm thanking them for a good match :) And you made a great point - honestly, just the control after a round end should be standard in every game! I really like the idea of, if you press start at round end, you take manual control again. It could also add an interesting sort of side-effect where an overly confident player could press it a bit too early, and, especially in a competitive setting, end up costing them the match (assuming they press it long enough to open up the start menu).

A really stupid favorite of mine is, the eternal, the ever-amusing. Purposefully launching yourself off the stage at the end of a round in Soulcalibur.

Another great video. Player identity is probably the most important thing in competitive games, especially fighters. Never thought about how much I missed fighters.

This is super fascinating because your reasoning is exactly why in games like Tekken 7 I turn the ability to act post-round off. If I drop a round, I don't want to give them that momentum or chance to test their execution, and I'd rather throw their rhythm off when they try and nothing happens. Plus it's sort of a mental reset, the round ends, it's over, on to the next one. Choosing not to act when you win can send a message too!

Was going to say something about Melee, but it's been said. So GREAT video!

Very thoughtful video. Thoroughly enjoyed~!

I love how you get to choose between respecting or taunting your opponent after a KO in Mark of the Wolves

if there was post-K.O. gameplay in Street Fighter V, i would either do a standing heavy punch into hundred hand slap on my opponent's corpse for a quick 6 hits from my e. honda, or i would do a stomp command normal and then whiffcancel it into a command grab motion "ooh she's gonna stomp me- ...oh she whiffcancelled it"

Honestly, smash does this really well. Nothing makes somebody more on edge than multishining between stocks

I've found that in Strive if I win with a throw I'll Roman cancel. I don't even know why.

This is something I never really thought about but it really is a small thing that means a lot. I was honestly a bit upset when I found out I couldn't use Axl's timestop super once the round ended because I just think the pose looks cool.

Soul Calibur was the BEST at this!! Every time you hit your opponent you’d get to hear their death scream again and it was so hilarious XD

Killer Instinct has a great version of this, you get a fuckin musical thing that happens if you do it

Two of my favourite ones are the post-win flexing in Fortnite and the gap between stocks in Melee. In either one you can decide to either do the usual tech flex or you can go for a bit of mental damage with an emote or taunt. Personal favourites being constantly walk turning in Melee and emoting a knocked opponent in Fortnite whilst their teammate runs to stop you from finishing them off.

Idk if most people would count it as a fighting game, but in Lethal League and Blaze, the community calls the after round body hitting “Corpse Juggling” and there’s even a small community around it. A mod was made that would let you spawn a corpse in the training room to practice and mess around with. A lot of players juggled differently and it was cool cause it definitely took some skill!

Astonished you made an entire video on this topic without footage of a melee player multi-shining and ledge dashing at mach speed between stocks

this is a great video my usual criticism of this channel is how nearly all content is aimed at mid-to-highlevel concerns. but this is a great take on emphasizing something that both high and low level players can really get behind (and if you want to be a flthy capitalist about it, something companies can pounce on and monetize to some degree). post round freedom to hit bodies or even just hit a couple extra buttons a la SF4 is always fun. a clever studio could even find ways to incorporate those moments into the design, letting people use unlockable/purchased taunts, some of which might loop in a funny way, like when you spam certain dances in League of Legends i personally have never heard the argument that stuff like this in BM but i think you do a good job in dismissing that notion. as long as you have the ability to crouch people will teabag you, there's no getting away from it. better to harness it, let players use it, and maybe even give the downed player something fun to do like roll around or give the winner the finger guns or something. have fun with it! the comparison to battle royales is a good one, too. by design you almost never win, the games themselves are very complex, but low skill players come back for months or even years because there's other ways to have fun than winning just a great vid all around!

in melee and smash in general you get to express yourself a lot during the 2-3 second respawn doing crazy tech and flexing your movement, it really works as an intimidation but also helps some to keep in the flow

My fav has to be Lethal League, which lets you get a full combo on your opponent each stock you take. Getting more than one hit, however, is extremely skill intensive, so it’s an amazing way to flex.

I was really hoping you'd mention post ko in lethal league, there are character specific combos you can do on your opponents dead body that really flex your skill and execution, can also show a lot of expression while doing it. Also can be tilting mid match when you have to watch your whited out body get tossed around for 7 seconds before you can do anything about it

I'm surprised you didn't include Big Band trumpet from Skullgirls. Now THAT's a way to express yourself in a fighting game!

I absolutely love this in SoulCalibur, where they make the death noise over and over Alongside that i'm not someone who jumps into the pit with the person who got rung out, I just crouch bc i ain't doing that lol

In GGST you can RC the SLASH screen and do whatever

in Them's Fightin Herds you have 2 seconds to still do a full combo + super if available, and if you stay in the air even extend it until you hit the ground. Makes for really funny things to do like post round super, mashing air buttons or literally carrying them to the top of the screen with Velvet's wind

in melee when you get a star ko, you have a lot of free time to do whatever you want before they come back on the next stock. some people do execution practice but it can be funny to just stand there, taunt or do silly movement options that wouldn’t be useful in match

This is something I definitely noticed when I came from Third Strike to USF4 and SFV. If I end the round with any of Necro's launching moves like throw, LP hook, anti air in the corner I get some time to show off a cool juggle, a large part of Necro's corner game (even some that are specific to post-KO slowdown). It's fun an cool to do and also lets me practice a large part of Necro's corner game, even if just a little.

Great video! Post-round shenanigans are one of my favorite parts of SoulCalibur

In Sonic the Fighters, you have full control after winning the round. I use this to teabag or to finish my combo because of muscle memory and/or to squeeze lemon on the wound. To add to this, there's a replay of the last few seconds of the round where you see yourself or the enemy getting beat up, and you also see whatever you or the opponent did after the round ended. Most skip the replay to get to the next round quicker, but sometimes I want to watch the replay to see how I lost or to copy a combo my opponent did, although it's usually skipped anyway by the other person. Sometimes I make the opponent watch the replay if they're the type to not skip the replays, just to make them see their loss. I also do this for people I know will skip the replay, but it's worth a shot, right? Unfortunately, Bark can't crouch, so he can't teabag. When I'm playing Bark and I want to disrespect the opponent, I spam the down button to teabag but since Bark doesn't crouch, he's just standing there staring down the enemy lying unconsciously on the floor. I either do that or I jump around to disrespect.

its not meaningless.. its mental warfare, its nerve release, its respect or disrespect, its anything.. its actually equivocally meaningful.

Whatever that electric wizard stoner doom sounding song in the background is goes crazy, good shit

Cool video topic and well-justified.

My friend plays Dante, and whenever he gets the win he ALWAYS without fail pulls out the "funny gun" which is Just him holding down 236P or Multilock. "I only do it cause it pisses people off!"

Love this analysis

Deffo your best vid yet!

I never knew about the arcade pressing start thing , that’s awesome

I gotta say, this video has perfectly captured what my hangups with SFV have been after a year. There's no way to really communicate during random matchmaking before or after rounds. I didn't realize thats what bugged me until recently and then this video dropped.

In melee is pretty common to spam tech skill while you took a stock from your op before they respawn. Usually is just a small practice or a flex, but there's a reasonable amount of times where the player dies due to missing some tech, and that's pretty funny

Sorta surprised you glossed over MK, namely, brutalities. Their remake into condition based quick (in comparison to a normal fatality) kills was a super clever way to add hype to a match. They're unique animations that don't take a ton of time (or don't have to) and let your opponent know "not only did i beat you, but I did this minigame while I did it". They often flow super well and feel like a nice "punctuation" to the end of a match. Even if you're on the receiving end it can be cool to see as well. I'm hoping to see some game expand on it more. Just crazy things you can do only in a brief post win state with unique animations. Make it linked to "not dropping the combo" like brutalities so it's not just time for teabagging and I think you get a good inbetween of "well there's a taunt button so lets annoy people" and "no you're not allowed to do anything"

As someone who favors Mvc2 post KO combos this vid hits different and byfar one of my favs.