Syed Muzammil Shah with some explosive revelations about Pakistan-India Relations

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• The History of Pakista...
Anchor, Journalist and Thinker, Syed Muzammil Shah, comes back o the podcast for a detailed overview of PTI and Imran Khan's politics; we go into the history of Pakistan, comparing it with India, to see where they went right, and where we went wrong, and what can both countries learn from each other.
• The History of Pakista...
Is Imran Khan Anti-Establishment?
Why Pakistan struggled after 1947?
Does Pakistan even want good relations with India?
Find out this and more on this week's episode of The Pakistan Experience.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
01:11 Muzammil joining Bol and Imran Khan's narrative building
13:50 Establishment’s mistakes and loss of power
23:57 Supporting PDM vs Supporting PTI
28:47 PDM’s operation against PTI and Anti-Establishment Politics
37:41 Imran Khan’s health and Democracy
44:50 How Pakistan began
54:00 Military’s role, separate electorates, Pakistan’s relationship with Religion
1:04:04 US Aid & Ayub Khan, Musharaf’s fake secularism, and the 1965 war
1:13:42 Relations with our neighbors and India and Abhinandan
1:20:32 The COAS position, Pakistan’s declining geopolitical status and our inability to compete economically
1:28:35 Moral stances, conflicts of interest and things India has done right
1:39:53 Pakistan’s identity crisis a real issue?, are economic issues the root of all problems
1:49:09 The TTP and the Establishment
1:58:50 18th amendment, a step back in 2018 and the suffering of Pakistan’s politicians, and university politics
2:08:40 Urdu as a national language and the Pakistani identity and cricket with India, the dream of an open border, secularism and identity politics
2:24:35 IK’s stance on Covid and his savior complex
2:40:56 Summarizing what we need to learn

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@ThePakistanExperience Жыл бұрын

Watch the full podcast with Syed Muzammil Shah: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h7aEgbFhmN-cpoE.html

@shammore5572 Жыл бұрын

What did you discussed about modi , is not factually correct he don't represent radical thought, we learn how to live with radical Islamist thought form thousand of years , in fact Islam is radical itself, their is no moderate Islam, if you go through hadis ans quran, Islam as it is radical 7 century ideology or dark age ideology, we have studied iran sorry parsia afganistan kashmir, if you weak you can't coexit with Islam

@shammore5572 Жыл бұрын

Muslim can be a good person but who ever following Islam fully he eventually become sucide bomber 🤣🤣 ISIS and there is no difference between pakistani and not all but most of indian muslim, so we take precautionary measure to stop Pakistan like daily bombing sport in India , if you think whoever taking such measure to stop Pakistan like situation then you are free to think , only modi can handle radical jihadi type muslim

@gaganahuja07 Жыл бұрын

The dumb host didn't even know it's own country's misadventures and despite that, India didn't react the way we could've.. yet he is questioning India on some random missile misfire. Modi is not Pro Pakistan, why we should be? What have you guys done anything to deserve that? Get real,vsee where you stand, what have you been doing over the years.

@nachiketavajasrava5 Жыл бұрын

Calling Modiji a sworn radical is like calling Pigamber a sworn peace keeper. The only place islam can bring peace is GRAVE.

@Anil_Antony956 Жыл бұрын

This person has zero Geo-Political Knowledge zero knowledge on whatever he speaks he can't even back it up with the data or reality.. Just wear suit and speak rubbish.... Just like clowns of bollywood do..

@TechyGauravYT Жыл бұрын

3:02 A Pakistani guy calling PM Modi dogla & hypocrite is the funniest thing I've heard all day.

@thisisron7994 Жыл бұрын

You cannot expect all positive comments from Pakistanis,, lets appreciate that atleast some one from pakistan is talking about historical facts and not what general pakistanis are taught in regular classes

@sandeepkosta5750 Жыл бұрын

Correct

@glitchboi3537 Жыл бұрын

Irony hai ji

@samyakhp4353 Жыл бұрын

@@thisisron7994 truth needs to be pointed out. Your happiness for your expectations being met by the pakis doesn't outweigh the importance of truth. They are still not correct

@kuldeepvirk4591 Жыл бұрын

In the end he is a typical pakistani.

@CGT127 Жыл бұрын

Modi visited Lahore on December 25th 2015 and within 7 days Pathankot Air base attack happened and in September 2016 URI attack happened and after that modi changed his policy towards Pakistan from defensive to offensive and its successfully isolated Pakistan diplomatically all over the world 🌎.

@umairsqu Жыл бұрын

modi never islolated pakistan. it was other external factors like pakistan getting much closer to china. pakistan's utility in afghanitan diminishing for the west etc. infact, modi will ruin the fabric of india like zia did it for us.

@fanaticghost9755 Жыл бұрын

Nice observation and research bro 👍. India can not trust Pakistan. They're just back stabbers

@lovemunday Жыл бұрын

He did not turn his position from defensive to offensive but he turn offensive with defensive. In other words We won’t start anything but if you start we may end what you started . Thanks to Ajit Doval Sir & our FM.

@FarhanYoutube283 Жыл бұрын

He was always offensive and his hateful speech against Muslims and Pakistan won him the elections and hr will keep doing it because he has nothing else to sell.

@SK-yw6xr Жыл бұрын

From defensive to Offensive defense policy.... and not offensive policy... As stated by hon'ble NSA, Shri Dovalsab...

@ayushs6099 Жыл бұрын

Modi visiting Pakistan at peak of his popularity risking his political career was a "political" move but Pakistan returning Abhinandan because they had no option is a "peace" gesture... Bhai ab kya hi bole

@mrudulaization Жыл бұрын

Aur Hume laga pakistani sudhar sakte hai… 😂

@muhammadnofilansari1259 Жыл бұрын

Well I would like to humbly disagree with you on the point you have made about the Pakistani establishment having no choice and they returned Abhinandan under pressure, that was certainly not the case, Pakistan returned your fighter pilot because that man was an active soldier and he was treated as per the LAW of Geneva Conventions otherwise If this was not the case then why didn't Pakistan returned Kulbushan Yadav? your Spy From RAW. As a Pakistani, I definitely agree that the Pakistani elite and the deep state have been proven to be catastrophic for us but Our army is the single most powerful functioning body of our state (which obviously hinders the prevalence of democracy ) even your Gaurav Ariya admits it that Pakistani army is the most powerful body of Pakistan and the book "The Spy Chronicles of RAW, ISI & the illusion of peace " by both of our spy chiefs. Your spy chief praised ISI as one of the most well-functioning Intelligence agencies within its resources and he admitted that Indian intelligence agencies never succeeded in convincing an ISI agent to work in their interest. In the end I will admit that we should learn democratic principles and the path toward homeland success from you guys because you guys have really earned it and we are currently failing at it. Sadly

@mlg1279 Жыл бұрын

@@muhammadnofilansari1259 Khulbushan was a retired person. Also, he was arrested in Iran. If Abhinandan was not handed over, pa-kistan would have been bom-bed the very next day. Your army knew it - that's exactly why he was handed over

@Countryfirst657 Жыл бұрын

@@muhammadnofilansari1259 yes we all indians believe that Pakistan army is the strongest body of Pakistan but not more than india ... Major gaurav never said the Pakistan army is more successful than the Indian army ..... Do you really understand the difference between a surgical strike and a spy case(which was not proven till date in international court) .... Surgical strike means war 1.Hamid mir Pakistani senior journalist 2.Hasan nisar Pakistani senior journalist 3.Hamid bashani kashmiri lawyer 4.Anis farooqui Pakistani senior journalist 5.Ali kuli khan Rt.lieutenant general Pakistani army...... 6.Ehtisham arshad nezami Pakistani political analyst 7.Sibt e yayha naqvi former Pakistan diplomat 8.Imran khan your ex prime minister .9.Roedad khan Pakistani politicians 10.ahmad quarashi journalist Some Pakistani books 1.Inside the Pakistani army 2.crossed swords 3.a history of Pakistani Army 4.eating grass-the making of Pakistan bomb They all are Pakistani's with big name who admitted indian army success.....go and read

@Countryfirst657 Жыл бұрын

@@muhammadnofilansari1259 I will tag you more names if you want ......

@mollyv4908 Жыл бұрын

Modi took a huge risk when he visited Pakistan, not just from his party but even opposition was annoyed. It is naive to think that foreign policy of India changes as govts change. There is a history of 60 years of proxy wars by Pakistan which nobody in India dares to disregard. Modi frittered away his political capital in order to start off on a clean slate with Paksitan. But of course how could Pakistan's real rulers allow their shops be closed down by peace?

@rutvikrs Жыл бұрын

Even if India and Pakistan resolve their issues, even if Pakistan dissolves as a state the root of the discord remains intact. The refusal of the subcontinent Muslim to reconcile with his Hindu past and identity.

@siddhantk4985 Жыл бұрын

@@rutvikrs you identified root cause of the problem my friend.

@saranshgupta9119 Жыл бұрын

@@rutvikrs u hit the nail brother. Moreover muslims are same in India n Pakistan. Anyone who thinks indian .muslims are different is nothing but a coward secular softy who can't even stand up for his dharma.

@parodyfied1053 11 ай бұрын

proxy wars are by india as well, say the entire thing dont spill biased bs

@viratyadav2213 10 ай бұрын

@@parodyfied1053 brother if you go back long enough, you'll find it was Pakistan which was always adamant on starting conflicts with India. In 1947 Akbar Khan sent Qabalis along with soldiers of Pakistani army in Kashmir. Ayub Khan started the 1965 war, but ISI and Pakistani Army hid Operation Gibraltar and Operation Grand Slam from your country and only told you "shaatir hindu ne raat ko lahore par hamla kr diya" or something. In fact the war had already started By pakistan in Indian administered kashmir when India did this. 1971 was your own fault. India was backing Mukti bahini because what your army was doing in east pakistan was creating a refugee crisis in a poor underdeveloped India. Then you gave a India a reason to jump into the war by conducting Operation Chenghiz Khan. Even after this defeat, the pakistani army started this military doctrine called "bleed India with a thousand cuts". 1999 We all know this. Atal ji and Nawaz Sharif signed the lahore declaration but your Pervez Musharraf started infiltrated Kargil. Now you keep supporting proxies in kashmir and also softly support Khalistan movement, but you expect India to not do the same in Balochistan? Forget about Bleeding India with a thousand cuts. Pakistani army is doing that to pakistan instead of India.

@tkp1528 Жыл бұрын

The difference is Pakistan has school books declaring India and Hindu as enemy but in India we are not taught any such nonsense. Hence there cannot be normalization.

@rutvikrs Жыл бұрын

Arey bhi why make it out to be a textbook thing? Just look at our own.

@Rahul_Singh100 Жыл бұрын

@@rutvikrs Do u think anyone who doesn't have hatred for Hindus which Pakistani education syllabus teaches can be a bureaucrat in Pakistan? Certainly not.

@rutvikrs Жыл бұрын

@@Rahul_Singh100 I am asking why even cross borders? Look at the way a Deobandi or Barelvi describe non Muslims and their beliefs. The textbook is a post facto justification and a symptom of self hatred for their identity not the root. The Indian Muslim kid who doesn't have access to the Pakistani textbook has the hatred of Hindus.

@Rahul_Singh100 Жыл бұрын

@@rutvikrs yes, they do but I'm talking about Pakistanis and the role of their school textbooks that further emboldens this. In India atleast few muslims can see through that BS.

@banditonehundred Жыл бұрын

Don’t worry, RSS is doing their best to indoctrinate Hindu kids as well.

@jaspalsingh695 Жыл бұрын

If India wanted to take Pakistani territory or undo Pakistan, India could have easily taken East Pakistan and merged into India but no, India let East Pakistan be free, India didn't take even an inch of East Pakistan..

@parvadhami980 Жыл бұрын

India should've taken a bit along the "chicken neck"

@jaspalsingh695 Жыл бұрын

@@parvadhami980 yes I agree, that was a good opportunity

@rutvikrs Жыл бұрын

This is precisely the difference, we want to maintain and they want to consume. This isn't as shallow as textbooks and a few religious organisations.

@vibhu9725 Жыл бұрын

@@parvadhami980 chittagong port and the coastline would have been a better deal.

@aqz2000 Жыл бұрын

India tried that taking Pakistani territory in ‘47, ‘65, ‘71 and ‘99. Except for success in east Pakistan due to a civil war. India despite its vastly large mimimtary and relieves has failed to achieve any considerable success against Pakistan. Now go and look at how much territory india has lost to China. Forget about ‘62. During Modi’s so called chest thumping reign, territory, India has lost 1,000 sq km [390 sq miles] of territory to China without a fight.

@ayushs6099 Жыл бұрын

It's incredibly naive of you to think Congress or any party other than BJP would've had any different forign policy against Pakistan after Mumbai , Pathankot, Uri , Pulwama ..Unlike the accidental missile launch from India .. these attacks actually killed people. 14 years after declaring him dead Pakistan risen Sajid Mir from the dead to get out of FATF grey list. So unless you think the APS attack or the recent Peshawar blast was conducted by RSS or RAW .. idk why you act so surprised that Indians hold resentment towards Pakistan. A little introspection wouldn't hurt ,Shehzad

@saptarshipaulchowdhury1786 Жыл бұрын

Spot on Ayush. I guess introspection is an alien concept in Pakistan.

@ramya0526 Жыл бұрын

Well said

@youtubewatcherdesi Жыл бұрын

With all due respect, Modi's visit was not optics. He was genuinely trying to reduce Pak threat. If anything Pak Army has always trying to subvert any progress by civilian govt.

@kingafridi-Separatist7777 Жыл бұрын

I really Hate Your Profile Pic. Kindly change it. We hate Army

@kingella9672 3 ай бұрын

Chal jhoota

@Indicthoughts898 Жыл бұрын

The host needs to develop his logical reasoning and understand his biases a lot more before he can be taken seriously.

@amankharb2401 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I like the podcast but in some cases I've noticed that he's bit influenced by the propaganda about the actual situation in India with respect to Pakistan

@rajatagrawal2143 Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@shahabuddin2802 Жыл бұрын

The host is far more unbiased and open minded than all political commentators in India combined. Lmao you guys are the last people who should be complaining about this.

@ic9771 Жыл бұрын

@@shahabuddin2802 Right now , Paxtanis are the only ones who believe you'd come out of the mess you're in , intact. If you think it's delusional , it isn't. Way back in 1971 on the morning of surrender by the Pakistan Army in Dhaka , Dawn ran a headline quoting Niazi saying they're winning & they would never surrender. We know what followed then as well as what'd happen now . We actually want every Paxtani to continue in the same vein as Niazi both the 1971 version & the current one which is why these 2 gentlemen & their petty biases aside are s bit disturbing to watch. I say a bit disturbing as we're sure these gentlemen have a limited audience . The awam is mostly hooked on to who else but Niazi & Niazi.

@amankharb2401 Жыл бұрын

@@shahabuddin2802 Again proving my point. Do you even know all the political commentators in India to make such statement? Develop a thinking of your own instead of putting people on pedestal, even good people which I'm sure both of these are. Every single person has their own biases, me and the other people here got a hint of them and pointed out for the sake of better discussion. It doesn't discredit the host or what he's trying to do for you to be such defensive about him that you put him above all the commentators of an entire nation.

@ashishchhabra4153 Жыл бұрын

"In general... modi koi pro pakistan admi toh nahi hai na....."😂 Bro, forget modi why would an indian have to be pro-pakistan? Or even an iranian, afghani, srilankan have to be pro pakistan. No wonder why every policy of pakistan is in shambles be it economic, foreign, security policies.... with this kinda thought process.

@parodyfied1053 11 ай бұрын

so what he didnt say he has to be one

@akabeast31 11 ай бұрын

@@parodyfied1053 our bhai Goodwill gestures to kya hi ginwa diye bhai ne... hum bhi kini Parliment, Hotels, Army Bases, Army truks uda de our unko unka ek soldier return kr de to bass sab maff...

@parodyfied1053 11 ай бұрын

@@akabeast31 firstly learn to use proper hindi ya phir apni gaon ki language ma baat kr lo no prob, i didnt understand a word you said, bhai to pehle baat krna seekhle sahi se, secondly mene bas yahi kaha ke he didnt say modi has to be pro pakistani, ye ashish bhadwa khud apni bullshit bana kr us pe hi hate kar raha chutiya gandu admi

@aksghazi868 Жыл бұрын

As a Pakistani. It deeply angers me how there's mostly Indians at most of these videos and very few Pakistanis. Really hope one day more of us realize how indoctrinated we are.

@anshchaturvedi7221 Жыл бұрын

It all sums down with HYBRID MILITARY DICTATORSHIP.

@pradhyudh Жыл бұрын

We are 8 times your population 😅😅 and there is no shortage of loons here too

@dummyinc Жыл бұрын

Indians are actually more interested in geo-politics, so you see all of us here.

@BeE_AriyaN Жыл бұрын

That's the harsh truth mate. We Bharatiya even watch hateful videos about us also just to get the perspective & understand the world better. Whereas average Pakistani watchers don't even watch slightly critical videos about their nation (I'm saying this in general). Curiosity matters Boss!

@dummyinc Жыл бұрын

@@pradhyudh cant always be the case.

@viklondon3466 Жыл бұрын

The host is deluded. 3:28 why would Modi be pro-Pak? Pak plays stupid games and expects a favourable Indian PM? Why? And 4:28 handing over Abhinandan was not a good will gesture. India had military on high alert and Pak was told in no uncertain terms. Pakistan capitulated.

@SoulAndDust Жыл бұрын

Bhadwa keh raha hy hum ne badi tameez se deal kiya india ki hrr aggression ko, jab ke reality ye hy k inki auqat he nahin rahi larny ki bheek bhi nahin mil rahi kahin se inko larna kya sangeet se tha. 😂

@RohitKaul-TheRealOne Жыл бұрын

My dear, you talk about missiles from India and Pakistan being a peacenik. Consider missiles as a first minor retaliation to the decades long terrorism funded and supported from Pakistan in Punjab and Kashmir. What Pakistan was used to was a soft Indian state under Congress which did nothing and kept on getting hit per bhutto's thousand cuts on India. One missile attack rattled you guys and you became peace Nik's, really? Now imagine if the same was done much earlier, may be we wouldn't have had terrorist activities in Kashmir and Punjab. Btw I am Kashmiri who along with 500000 others had to become refugees in our own country due to terrorism sponsored by Pakistan. Don't forget that.

@RohitKaul-TheRealOne Жыл бұрын

At the same time, I do acknowledge that you two probably along with may be a dozen more in Pakistan have at least what we call common sense. So kudos to you. I am fan of you two for sure.

@TruthPrevailz Жыл бұрын

These guys are delusional They are trying to see the truth but are poorly read. Will take them time to see the truth.

@rakheethakur1814 Жыл бұрын

Bro even though they are acting like some geopolitics expert there hatred for Hindus and India is indoctrinated in them ,just waste of time to argue with Radicals

@SarthakSabharwalMusic Жыл бұрын

These two (especially Syed Muzzamil) are among the very few critical thinkers in Pakistan who challenge the narrative of the Pakistani establishment. But critical thinking is a mindset and a journey, not a destination. It's not easy to view the world from a completely impartial lens, especially when you've grown up indoctrinated by the Pakistani state, media and education system.

@HumanistFirst01 Жыл бұрын

The release of Abhinandan was never a goodwill gesture by Pakistan. Pakistan couldn't afford to detain and imprison him.

@protograde2723 Жыл бұрын

India is not a spineless state like Pakistan. We stand true to our ideals and values no matter which party comes to power. That's why we are growing.

@djrandomwalker7656 Жыл бұрын

Modi tried but then pulwama, uri and pathankot happened. Balakot was a response to that, we targeted the terror camps, whereas pak retaliated with Swift retort and Targeted military positions, which they missed. Missile was mishap and regrettable and everyone in indian establishment accepts that, as it puts india in bad position and no one wants that. The missile could have hit civilians , although it didn't have warhead but kinetic energy could have caused damage.

@savageboi3491 Жыл бұрын

The BJP government doesn't have RADICAL Ideology. Congress has mainly Minority appeasement approaches (mainly Muslims) and The INC also thinks Muslims are the only one in the minority. They were so blind in Muslim vote bank that they created a big void for majority and other minorities (Jains, Buddhist, Christian etc.) And BJP government filled that void. Right now, BJP is doing what a party should do in democracy to win the election which is take majority in your side. Moreover, there is a famous statement given by S. Jaishankar "You can't expect us to be on table by putting gun on the head." In which he clearly means that Pakistan government and army both have to think in single pathway that which is DONT DO CROSS BORDER TERRORISM and resolve the issue and that's the only option Pak army and government have.

@justanotherperson2576 Жыл бұрын

BJP definitely has a radical ideology, but only as an item to sell so that it can buy votes. It's playing with fire!

@dsouza7206 Жыл бұрын

Bjp is redical, fundamentalist ,anti secular and hindutva promoter. 99% of its leader want hindu rashtra and frequently raise the topic every now and then. Days are not far when Hindu rashtra will actually come to existence. After next election it'll be in full force and will eventually dark days will start 🤡

@abcxyz5618 Жыл бұрын

Yes you said right brother. You totally summarised allt hings.

@kashutosh9132 Жыл бұрын

Typical bjp and sangh supporter What Pakistan did in past - the same thing we are doing now It is contemporary to debate of language imposition and religious polarisation + making a theological state Aankhe kholo The appeasement and lies made by bjp is unparalleled

@cooldudeimr Жыл бұрын

Congress was appeasing Muslims and bjp is appeasing Hindus... But I guess now it's all good as long as bjp appeases hindus

@krishcapricorn Жыл бұрын

Handing over Abhinandan wasn't a good will gesture by Pakistan State, they were obligated to do so under Law(International) but even though they were reluctant so Indian State had to armtwist Pakistan State to make the so called good will gesture.

@TruthPrevailz Жыл бұрын

India fights with its military. Pakistan uses terrorists.

@umairsqu Жыл бұрын

not really. it was always meant to be a goodwill gesture to show the world we are peaceful. indian arm twisting seldom works.

@BeE_AriyaN Жыл бұрын

@@umairsqu good joke

@akashvalsan6609 Жыл бұрын

Tange kaamp Rahi thi maathe pe tha paseena

@deveshrawat154 Жыл бұрын

@@umairsqu *how can you forget ayaz sadik comments on bajwa, tange kappri thi maathe pe paseena tha , khuda ka vaasta isse chorrdo raat 9 baje India attack krne k mood me hai* ... *Uske baad sabse bade chootiye wo jo kehne lg gye imran khan ko noble peace prize do* 😂😂😂

@s9ka972 Жыл бұрын

Pakistan 🇵🇰 - India 🇮🇳 relations wouldn't have this bad if Democracy won in Pakistan over Miltary intervention.

@randmht9976 Жыл бұрын

Keep dreaming.

@Striker-jg9kv Жыл бұрын

Yeah BCz every inshallah mashallah oinking politician of islamic Republic of hira Mandi Pakistan who btw wins BCz of the blessings of Jamaat i islami , JeM , TLP , are such nice secular fellas 😂😂😂

@KingKong-lb3vh Жыл бұрын

the sheikhchilli mindset is equally spread over both the jhumuriat and amiriat alike

@prashantkatti118 Жыл бұрын

Really. Zulfikar Ali Bhutto was an elected prime minister what happened. You guys hanged him. Same with Benazir Bhutto.

@truthseeker6041 Жыл бұрын

Pak ideology would have the same still. They can't move beyond kashmir .

@zulaikhaduggal2870 Жыл бұрын

And all my dreams shattered when I realized we have been befooled by the state.....Our minds have been indoctrinated by Islamization, Kashmir bny ga Pakistan, Jihadism...and what we have got? Minds wandering for an identity?? crisis??? We have never tried to improve relations with India or Bangladesh sincerely. We should learn especially from India and Bangladesh....where they are today? And where we are? We have driven backwards in times...even before when Islam was born. And we should apologize Bangladesh for what we have done to them. Acha hua wo alg ho gy..Jan chuda li hmse... Or sbse ghtya treen hai hmari Foreign policy

@user-cq8hw3ni7g 10 ай бұрын

Wow your also duggal , from haryana ?

@divyanidutt958 Жыл бұрын

“Modi koi pro-pakistan aadmi toh nahi haina yaar” bhai, konsa Pakistani pro Indian hai? 😅 is it important for Indian to be pro-Pakistani? Appreciate most of your discussions but be rational, that’s what is expected of you.

@mollyv4908 Жыл бұрын

Foreign policy experts are perplexed why a powerful India is not pushing a weak Pakistan or launching a frontal skirmish to settle scores( ref Kamran Bokhari interview). If the tables were reversed and Pk was in a much better position than India, do you think they would have exercised such restraint? History shows otherwise. Misadventurism has been the hallmark of Pakistn policy; it is another matter that each of their adventures has only pushed them further into quagmire.

@kool_cj380 Жыл бұрын

Is this you molly 😅

@rahulkapur687 Жыл бұрын

Muzammil bhai you said it right with that question... 'did we have an option?'... Absolutely not, and Imran and your armed forces knew that clearly! They'd been warned by the Americans that India was ready to attack within hours if Abhinandan ji was not returned. If you remember, this topic was discussed by a member in the Pakistani Parliament. India has been backstabbed enough times in the past... Modi ji has said enough is enough! Good talk 🙏🇮🇳

@kamrankhan-qm6hb Жыл бұрын

We are sorry to india and ashamed how pakistan started all wars against India.

@INFOWORLD-hv4ki 3 ай бұрын

True bro..

@poojan423 Жыл бұрын

To be honest it was more exhausting for India to maintain relationship with Pakistan. It's much easier now to ignore Pakistan. However much India tried Pakistan always backstabbing India so its waste of our energy to maintain relations with Pakistan. It was Pakistan who ended trade with India. Modi tried to have good relations when he first became PM. He invited Nawaz Sharif for his swearing in ceremony and also went to Pakistan to meet Nawaz Sharif but what we got? Lot of terrorist attacks. It's better now not to have much relations with Pakistan. India has long left its Pakistan centric foreign policy. Biggest problem of Pakistan is its education policy. Most people are so radicalized that there is no hope for the country. Few sane people leave country and settle outside. As a south Indian I don't have any connections to Pakistani culture. In a few years even North India will stop identifying with Pakistani culture whose ancestors might have connections to Pakistan.

@ujwalkumarbhatkar7233 Жыл бұрын

Relationship between india & pakistan is unpredictable ...existence of pakistan is depends on "hindu hates, find islamic "culture " & deny ...even the world is taking disadvantage of this tension ...

@shivam2761 Жыл бұрын

Pakistan never want to admit that thier foriegn policies and radicalization has led them to this situation.

@caldivov6676 8 ай бұрын

I am indian and i love syed muzammil so much.

@anujay81 Жыл бұрын

Basic funda is that a Disproportionate Army needs a perpetual enemy to survive and thrive and India was made Ajali Dushman.

@prabhavchoudhary Жыл бұрын

If you are a Pakistani I just want you to ask yourself what would Pakistan do if you are in India's position (economy,miltary, geopolitics, etc.) and you are in Pakistani position and India in yours (bankruptcy, economy, etc.)you would attack next second to capture KASHMIR.

@looneydesi Жыл бұрын

As Pakistani. Personally I think ( unpopular opinion ) kashmir belongs to India. Pakistan needs to stop supporting all those “ peaceful groups” in Kashmir let India handle them. Sadly that will likely never happen. As our military needs money. I don’t think this Kashmir issue will ever be solved in my lifetime.

@prabhavchoudhary Жыл бұрын

@@pkdl8228 true! And it is also true that many Pakistani folks think that India wants to capture Pakistan. It is just not true, most of us literally don't care. Pakistan is slowly becoming irrelevant for us. Sadly Cricket and the historical Nostalgia is the only thing we can compete in.

@harlowida Жыл бұрын

@@looneydesi it’s obvious you’re a radical pajeeet LOL

@KishuSingh-re7cu Жыл бұрын

2:21 I have never seen a Pakistani telling this truth on a social media...keep it up

@akshay_wakodikar Жыл бұрын

Watch Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy video

@prerakh Жыл бұрын

Good discussion hope to see more pakistani intellectuals. All d best from INDIA

@rishabhchaurasia3482 Жыл бұрын

The person in front of Syed Muzammil is very weak in geo politics his senses are way too mainstream like every normal Pakistani. He doesn't introspect things beyond what he reads and been fed by western or Pakistani media. Where I salute Sayed Muzzamil. I might not agree on few things he says but his view point is by in large then so called high profile diplomats.

@pratikwaghma Жыл бұрын

You guys far better than main stream media. unbiased view's and facts ✌️ ❤ from india.

@ThePakistanExperience Жыл бұрын

@rohitmohite758 Жыл бұрын

These Bastards called our PM has Radical Ideology is this unbiased? Almost 90% Pakistani People are against India nd this is what makes them Terrorist for us

@GauravBeast730 Жыл бұрын

They all are the same ... never ever trust Pakistan ...

@GauravBeast730 Жыл бұрын

They will backstab you

@pratikwaghma Жыл бұрын

@@GauravBeast730 don't care. These guys trying to educate their people what is right and wrong. We should appreciate them.

@HarshSingh-vl2pe Жыл бұрын

Ek do saal ka aur intezar hai bas, uske baad dekhte h Pakistan kaha h 🤣🤣

@johnd5235 Жыл бұрын

Goodwill is when you have a choice to do or not to do and still chose to do to achieve a good outcome. Goodwill is not when you have no choice or do something out of fear. Even the so called smart analysts seem to have half a brain if they cannot understand this basic thing.

@rakheethakur1814 Жыл бұрын

4:20 if Pakistan would have retaliate that time then I am pretty sure that you would have lost POK

@rakheethakur1814 Жыл бұрын

@@zaryabbaloch2970 Pakistan occupied Kashmir or what you call as Azad Kashmir

@619ry7 Жыл бұрын

Forgot pok they will lose Balochistan as well

@aryanrajagyatsax4727 Жыл бұрын

Pashtun and Baloch as well 😂

@faddyartist7436 Жыл бұрын

@@aryanrajagyatsax4727bhai konsi bollywood movie daik rehe hu?

@kabirr3088 Жыл бұрын

What you do out of compulsion isn’t a goodwill gesture 😂

@rahulanand2142 Жыл бұрын

It is true, we as Indians accept we are radical in the case of Pakistan and if needed we will become hypocrites.

@ahteshamazam4650 Жыл бұрын

I don't know, why Pakistani's are so much observation with wing commander Abhinandan? They are saying that we returned Abhinandan back to India after a cup of tea..... But they forgot the history, my lovely and great country India returned 90000 Pakistani's soldiers back to Pakistan after approx. 2years of feeding and giving them all kinds of treats . Please Pakistani, just think about what my country did for your country but in response what you people gave to my people: 26/11, parliament attack, major wars, Pathankot attack, Akshardhan temple attack, proxy wars and so on......

@rohansaligao169 Жыл бұрын

The restraint was not due to choice but compulsion. The poor economic state of the Pakistan was the primary reason why it could not take a tough stance.

@theempiricist389 Жыл бұрын

Does Pakistan want a good relationship with India?? Lol, I think the window for this kind of question is long gone. Right now it's the question that does India give a damn about what happens to Pakistan?? I don't think India needs Pakistan in any case! A country with a dead soul can only be a burden on India! We are doing quite well without Pakistan! Side Note: I listened to the whole podcast for almost 3 hours, it was a good talk with still a lot of misconceptions from both the speakers! But it's a bit late don't you think guys??

@debudada Жыл бұрын

Our dharma teaches us to first try for peace at any cost , but it also teaches to totally annihilate the enemy if they dont understand the value of peace , that's what Modi did.

@onsight1318 Жыл бұрын

Its always a delight to hear from Syed Muzammil Shah, truly a gem of a person. As a Indian its always refreshing to hear his perspective.

@ghalibhassan7047 Жыл бұрын

You both are the real gem who are taking political intellectuality to a next level. Kudos!

@ThePakistanExperience Жыл бұрын

@santkabir7932 Жыл бұрын

@@urrasscal8380 inke naani ki kahanio me sirf😂😂🤣🤣🤦🏿‍♂️

@aekanandchoudhary Жыл бұрын

Suno abhinandna ko wapis tumne darr ke mare kiya hai koi ahsaan nhi kiya Aapke ek mantri ne parliament me bola thaa India 9 bje atteck kar wala hai Aur tum to kuch nhi karte, Kashmir me terrorist bhej masum kashmiriyo ko jaan lete ho Un designed terrorist sabse jayada pakistan me hai

@kanika7255 Жыл бұрын

Hahah ayaz sadiq is that man and fawad chaudhry accepted the fact that pulwama attack was done on the orders of imran khan such a shameful thing

@aekanandchoudhary Жыл бұрын

@@kanika7255 yes and they are say modi doglapan karta hai 🤣 Inko pta nhi ab inki nhi chalne wali ab jo pmo me bheta apne style me jwab deta hai, that's why pakistani crying all time on modiji's

@soumyakayal4608 Жыл бұрын

If you're saying "Israel ne bohot julm kiya hai Palestine per", that means you don't know history and present issue of Israel.

@prajeetk Жыл бұрын

They knows everything.. Bss wo soch hai naa.. Musalman wali. Kuch bhi kaar lo sacchi dekhi nhi jati..

@chetnasingh7747 Жыл бұрын

Yaa umaaah ki problem only muslim ki problem hi dikhti hai kahi ki bhi ho baki koi mre no problem

@jawaharlalbansal1062 Жыл бұрын

When Modi became PM,he was having vision for India for 2047.He came to Pakistan to sharif to get friendly will Pakistan,but once Modi knew the anti India attitude of Pakistan army,it closed its doors for Pakistan.

@akashvalsan6609 Жыл бұрын

My message on behalf of INDIA:- INDIA doesn't want ANY kind of relationship with PAKISTAN. Take care of POK, we will take it whenever we are ready.

@aamerabbas Жыл бұрын

Very insightful comment. Which one of your two brain cells did you utilize to come up with such intellectual commentary?

@zainmemon6346 Жыл бұрын

Lets be sane.. US couldn't take over Afg even after 10 years of intervention. Russia couldn't do that either. How on earth would you take on Pakistan (POK in this case being an integral part of Pakistan), knowing the fact that neither are you close the US or Russia in terms of power, nor is Pak as weak as Afg???!! so stop being that naive after getting rich recently! Pak is weak economically.. but that doesnt mean that you'd get an easy walk over when it comes to war! It amazes me when indians like you start nonsense comments when it comes to kashmir.. bro that aint so easy.. we dont have dollars.. and you guys have many.. so logically, you wouldn't want to lose your billions of bucks by starting a war, while we on the other hand have nothing to lose at all! Peace!!

@vishvajitkumar9497 Жыл бұрын

right

@ratnadeepsharma964 Жыл бұрын

Tu kaun hai loude “on behalf of india” waale? Jaldi jaldi “on behalf of india” likh deta hu… phir jab 10 likes aajayenge toh school ke dosto mein hero banjaunga. Duddu peeke soja saale “on behalf of india” waale varna mummy pitai kardegi.

@rajhsalgam2083 Жыл бұрын

There is no other country in South Asia that’s more interesting than Pakistan! Political drama and events everyday are more unpredictable than TV soap ops

@AlokKumar-ib6pe Жыл бұрын

Syed is really a very smart thinker I never miss his videos,😅

@angrybruce4770 Жыл бұрын

Will have to say. Syed has very clear and sharp mind. Thanks for the video

@ThePakistanExperience Жыл бұрын

Watch the full podcast with him: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h7aEgbFhmN-cpoE.html

@rocker563 Жыл бұрын

I think you are confusing all incidents. Modi coming to Pakistan he had a choice not to come to Pakistan. Modi invited Pakistani PM on his first swearing in ceremony he had a choice not to. In terms of other points you raised: 1. Pakistan was pressurized to return abhinandan. Had they not returned there would be set of other military answers that'd be executed by the Indian Government and would lead to bigger scale of confrontation that Pakistan could not afford. 2. Missile going into Pakistan case: it was Pakistan's diplomatic failure to round up support for a joint investigation. Because Pakistan has no geopolitical relevance anymore. And on top of all of this goodwill gesture is initiating something good when either of the parties are not expected to happening of such a thing. But in both of cases mentioned it was expected rather the goal of Indian side to achieve this outcome. So they succeeded in it.

@SushilSinghwar Жыл бұрын

Missile test ke liye bheji thi😂😂 safal ho gaya test 😂😂

@srilathasb498 Жыл бұрын

Muzzamil sees India and Modiji from pakistani lenses . he doesnt know the reality of India. He is no different from other Pakistanis.

@ManojKumar-wf4vs Жыл бұрын

I am biggest fan of Syed Muzamil Shah about his brilliant knowledge and analysis.

@skyvoz Жыл бұрын

Inke population mein India especially Hindus ko lekar itna zahar bhara gaya hai ki koi samjhdar Pakistani bhi kuch accha karne ka soche na to nhi kar sakta. 😬

@abuzaramjad8081 Жыл бұрын

Lots of love to you from lahore 🇵🇰 I watch your channel on regular basis your content is unbiased and highly appreciate it is very beautiful for all of us Pakistani kudos to your team who made such effort

@ThePakistanExperience Жыл бұрын

❤

@sr.1972 Жыл бұрын

You have electricity to watch? Lol..

@crankboost Жыл бұрын

@@sr.1972 kyu zaleel kar rha h unko😂

@abuzaramjad8081 Жыл бұрын

@@sr.1972 han electricity toh ha but kabhi Teri behen ki gaand ma electric shocks deta hun hun saath yaad aya gaye ka gosht bhi toh khana ha

@abuzaramjad8081 Жыл бұрын

@@crankboost hahahaha dusre ka ghar Nazar rakhne ki bajaye gobar apna Socha tumhare han Kya chal raha ha Tum logo ki economgy GDP ka 85 percent ameero ka ha baqi sirf brchare gareeb 15 percent Jo ya soch kr zinda hain ka Balochistan Sindh gilgit seperate honga 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 stay hating us we don't care 😘

@tol-mol-ke-bol Жыл бұрын

I get it what Syed said here that Modi took a political risk by making a surprise visit to Lahore, but the vibe in the air in India upon learning this news then, was that India took it all in a broadly understandably-positive side of things.

@rgproduction9940 Жыл бұрын

Ghias bhai we need more shorts focused video like this ❤❤

@ThePakistanExperience Жыл бұрын

Done❤

@midhunksd4017 Жыл бұрын

Here in india people knows how relationship maintained between hindu, islam, Christian and sikh community's. But pakisthan is a nation build by the name of an Islamic nation. Since born and bought up from there common people always hates internally to hindu and other community.. They don't know how that kind of a interreligious brotherhood works out. As a common indian i wish to give a hug to pakisthani person and increase one more brother in company. But the thing is that the bro to am hugging will be always doubt me since am a hindu born in india😂🫂

@pankajbala3618 Жыл бұрын

Thank God km se km kisi Pakistani ko ko to smjh aya k Modi ji ne bhi indo pak peace ke liye effort Kia tha .🙏🙏🇮🇳🇮🇳

@jvsuryanarayana 9 ай бұрын

Both of these men are free thinking, agile and unchained to religion.

@ajazmir3092 6 ай бұрын

Syed muzamil shah , is really a great analyst I am from Jammu and Kashmir , a proud Indian Pakistan ne Apna dewalia nikaal diya duniya k har jagah apna chmacha ban k. Pakistan army wants to become the army of ummah , Pakistan army is the most dangerous and dirty mind army. We the people of Jammu and Kashmir are proud Indian and want our POK back.

@shivamiltiwari9541 Жыл бұрын

tumhe abhi rss and hindutva ki ek percent bhi samjh nahi by nature hindutva is based on law of universal cohibition ....hum to chiti ko bhi ata dalne wale log hai ....aur agr kahi muslims se issue hai to wo isiliye ki indian subcontinent k muslims are highly fundamentalists and obsessed about their religion ..........u are saying something like prithavi raaj chauhan was radical but u forgot to mention why he needed to be radical if ghori had not invaded ????????? You must rethink who was the aggressor in first place ab Kaho ki Defence bhi polite hoke kare to ye possible nahi .......... baat Darsal ye hai ki Tum logo ko problem ye hai ki tumhari Philosophy ko accept kar le and live with it ......

@aparna657 Жыл бұрын

Wonderful podcast, it’s always a treat to listen to your podcasts and Syed Muzammil. Shehzad, why would Modi be pro Pakistan..for that matter why will any Indian politician or any Indian be. If it is not pro Pakistan, it’s not anti either. India is just trying to do it’s own thing, if need be it will try to protect its own interests and isolate Pakistan at international level. Pakistan did not try to be friendly with India at any point of time, if it did not retaliate because it was not capable enough to..not that it did not want to. India has moved on from the enmity with Pakistan. India is looking itself at much bigger level and trying to push the economy to higher level.

@lakshaythapar1 4 ай бұрын

Nobody is daring to become a pro pakistani. Eventually it will be obnoxious to them. Look at your opaque political structure and foreign policy.

@ashwinbenegal Жыл бұрын

Not returning Abhinandan would’ve caused a bloody war for Pakistan, not India!!

@21stcenturylucifer Жыл бұрын

spitting facts

@kunalrajput8855 Жыл бұрын

3:25 kya aap ye bol sakate hai ki koi pak pm pro indian tha es baat ki koi sence hi nahi hai

@shoonysoch9661 3 ай бұрын

India in peace ,not having relationship with Pakistan 😂😂

@PajKar-is6zh Жыл бұрын

Every Indian PM wants to establish a good relationship with Pakistan because it is in our long term interest. So what's Modi like or not like personaly doesn't matter.Do you think we like Taliban or Britain for that matter. No we don't but it doesn't matter because establishing a good relationship with Afghanistan as Britain as a country serves our long term interest. And our interest are supreme. Period

@tilakmahto8179 Жыл бұрын

Zia told lies that Russia wanted to reach warm waters. Russia already had access to Iran's ports. It supported the take over in '79

@chinmay4331 Жыл бұрын

Non aligned movement was not an alliance. But yes, NAM countries were left alone by both USA and USSR.

@ashsharma3169 Жыл бұрын

Great intellectual discussion and realistic!

@rishivashista6714 Жыл бұрын

Now today’s situation is such that we don’t think Pakistan can remain integrated in upcoming years

@rabikurmi8174 Жыл бұрын

India se missile galti se gya.it was just an mistake by army personnel and india sacked those army personnels.tell me yours.you did kargil did you sacked those personal who did this or make them accountable.no way...

@bharatahir792 Жыл бұрын

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@nas009 Жыл бұрын

what movie or book they were talking about?

@ThePakistanExperience Жыл бұрын

Charlie Wilsons War

@aekanandchoudhary Жыл бұрын

seakh chhli ki baten, how you can say doaglepan me modi aage ye ward bhi Pakistani use kar rhe jinka pura desh hi doglepan ki wajh se aaj kaha aa gya hai 🤣🤣

@Playerone1287 Жыл бұрын

Bro not to offend but modi kafi intelligent hai wo bolta kuch aur hai krta kuch aur hai, jaise 2014 ke pehle ramdev aur modi ne foreign investment ko bahut criticize kiya tha aur 2014 k baad khud FDI ke liye har desh ghum rha tha

@SK-qx5xn Жыл бұрын

@@Playerone1287 fir b ayega to modi hi

@praweengupta4612 Жыл бұрын

Muzammil sir... 👌 love and respect from india ❤️

@UmeshSagarOfficial Жыл бұрын

It's so interesting to see all this geopolitics from Pakistani angle

@kartikri Жыл бұрын

Good to see short excerpts from the channel. I find it hard to make 90 mins or 2 hours to watch full videos. Bit of feedback for the channel. Quality content no doubt a rarity from Pakistan.

@rajiblochanacharya4162 Жыл бұрын

Knowledge ki kami hey anchor main 😂😂😂😂

@agnosticatheist4093 Жыл бұрын

Please make a podcast on VIP culture and accountability of bureaucrats In our Sub Continent Society 🙏 more power to you brother

@anjangogoi7686 Жыл бұрын

This guy seems sensible. I think if he becomes the PM of Pak , things could become better for Pak...also India Pak relations.

@rutvikrs Жыл бұрын

If the economic situation was somehow reversed with India facing a default and Pakistan being stable, what would be happening in Kashmir and Punjab?

@MohitSharmaxp Жыл бұрын

Look as an Indian I know when you or India tried to get the relationship good pakistan always backstab us. And since imran Khan cut all ties we've been doing very well without worrying about you at all. Now we're on the point that even if Pakistan have good relationship with India or not our goal is set. So being friends is beneficial for pakistan and being a foe is a total loss. Choice is yours but even said that baggers can't be choosers:- shehbaz Shareef(2022)

@openreview1271 Жыл бұрын

Did we have an option 😂

@CocoTube11 Жыл бұрын

Good will gesture is more valuable when it’s made from a position of strength.

@Modric-nk9oq 3 ай бұрын

Abe tumhari missiles tho khud ki buildings pr gir jaati hain bhai😂

@neelj5155 Жыл бұрын

Aur ek India khada kar diya?? Host looks like typical so called intellectual of Pakistan.... Thoda thoda padhai likhai karo yaar....

@sathvikayendluri2005 Жыл бұрын

One question i really don't understand why should modi be a pro pakistani why would anyone be a pro pakistani i am an indian i am a pro india person that is how world works

@swatigupta5674 Жыл бұрын

Tumhara pm humare modi ji ko gali deta tha aur phir kehta hai ki india humse baat nahi karta kon se pakistani school me ye sab sikhate hai. Aise chalti hai duniya

@bdnr8346 Жыл бұрын

As a Bangladeshi I support Syed Muzzamil Shah talks

@santkabir7932 Жыл бұрын

N as an india i m laughing ....he is a pakistani....same mindset😂😂🤣🤣

@Drkp23 Жыл бұрын

Imagine if India’s situation is similar to present pakistani situation… like severe economic crisis, severe political crisis, serious security situation… then definitely Pakistan would have attacked India and try to get Kashmir

@atravellerssong 7 ай бұрын

Shehzad seems to have one-sided opinions. The more young, enlightened and educated minds like him stick to historical denial, the more they seem to moonwalk into the past full of blunders. As an Indian, I am throwing good vibes Pakistan's way, like me most Indians wish well for them, despite the historical hiccups and the neighbourly squabble. Embracing the truth is crucial, so let's drop the blame game on Indian leadership if Pakistan aims for progress. Thumbs up to Muzammil for facing facts and keeping it real!

@farazkhan7035 Жыл бұрын

very good journalism. keep up the good work.

@ThePakistanExperience Жыл бұрын

🙌

@neelj5155 Жыл бұрын

Historically I agree with you.... Lol, bhai toda circle of learning badao yaar.... Gaand phad dete , agar Pakistan se Abhinandan vapas aaya naa hota toh.. cause there was lot rage in the public at that time....