Partition of India and the role of Quaid -e-Azam - Professor Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed - TPE

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3 жыл бұрын

Professor Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed is the Professor Emeritus of Political Science, Stockholm University, he has taught at LUMS and Government College, Lahore, as well. He is the author of "The Punjab Bloodied, Partitioned and Cleansed" and "Pakistan: The Garrison State", he is about to release his third book on Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah.
Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed comes on The Pakistan Experience to discuss why he believes Pakistan was created as a buffer state between the Soviet Union and India by the British and the role of Quaid-e-Azam in the creation of Pakistan.
Was Jinnah working with the British?
Did the Radcliffe Award favour India or Pakistan?
Who started the massacres in Punjab?
Why did the Sikhs not join Pakistan?
Find out on this week's episode of the Pakistan Experience. Probably the most important conversation on partition that you will ever hear.
The Pakistan Experience is a podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan, and Pakistanis, through the lost art of conversation.

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@Billumian47
@Billumian47 3 жыл бұрын
Dear Shehzad Ghias, I am writing again to thank you from the depth of my heart for this fantastic interview you did with me. It has elicited very great interest as I see from the comments. I am grateful to all who expressed their views and most views have been very supportive. The few who disagree or are angry are also needed so that we all exchange our views freely. I wish you and Pakistan Experience all the very best for now and for your future endeavours.
@naumannadeem60
@naumannadeem60 3 жыл бұрын
After this interview I started reading your book , Its such an Masterpiece .
@arifnasr
@arifnasr 3 жыл бұрын
Dear Dr Sb u have done great job.
@Billumian47
@Billumian47 3 жыл бұрын
@@arifnasr thank you.
@arvinderkang6596
@arvinderkang6596 3 жыл бұрын
You have done a good research..Will definitely read your book..thanks sir
@Billumian47
@Billumian47 3 жыл бұрын
@@arvinderkang6596 thank you.
@prakprnj
@prakprnj 3 жыл бұрын
I am impressed by Dr Ishtiaq . I am already his fan . I am an Indian , a retired District Judge . Dr Ishtiaq completely changed my perception about partition . Thanks Dr Ishtiaq
@Billumian47
@Billumian47 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Justice Prakash Paranjape.
@gunjannaithani8545
@gunjannaithani8545 3 жыл бұрын
@@Billumian47 Dear Sir , Only one book of yours about partition of Punjab is available in Hindi, I wish rest 2 books are also translated soon . Respect for you.
@birendrashahi40
@birendrashahi40 2 жыл бұрын
Ok parrot how many books read in ur life.
@abhaypatel4292
@abhaypatel4292 2 жыл бұрын
@@bbc6799 be respectful dude..😐😐
@MRWM-mo6zs
@MRWM-mo6zs Жыл бұрын
Which other Islamist radical are you a fan of? Osama ? Hafiz Sayed?
@ayeshazahoor6592
@ayeshazahoor6592 3 жыл бұрын
Everybody is appreciating Dr Sahaab, which is absolutely justified. But I would like to appreciate Shehzad for doing his homework and asking such thoughtful questions, kamaal!!!
@Gappasappa
@Gappasappa 3 жыл бұрын
Agree, from India. Wonderfully informative.
@manavis6528
@manavis6528 3 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for the moderate thinking people who are genetically Indian but they're stuck in this fiasco called Pakistan. What Muslims has achieved by getting Pakistan? Where it stands at international level? BUT India has relieve from united muslim fundamentalism fanaticism through division amongst them. India is globally today amongst top 5 gdp economy, 4th powerful military, and most stable leadership thus Pakistan has unmatched to the mighty Indians across the sectors. Now any misadventure done by Pakistan would leading them to join the clubs of destroyed Afghanistan- Syria- Iraq.
@manutrivedi1891
@manutrivedi1891 3 жыл бұрын
Must be embarrasing to be a Pakistani. Apart from being tragic.
@nachhattarsingh8527
@nachhattarsingh8527 3 жыл бұрын
Veřy good analysis
@amarnathjha4616
@amarnathjha4616 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gappasappa 00
@jasha9sandhu
@jasha9sandhu 3 жыл бұрын
" koi state sacred nahi, Insaniyat sacred hai " 👌👌
@imranyousaf5389
@imranyousaf5389 3 жыл бұрын
Love with human partition destroy everything my 90 p family killed
@ritesharora6032
@ritesharora6032 2 жыл бұрын
@@imranyousaf5389 mera v hum rawalpindi rehtay thay
@induchopra3014
@induchopra3014 3 ай бұрын
Pakistanis want a lot without working for anything. Not ready to take responsibility. Not ready to own anything. But want front role in everything. So funny.
@nutankotak8906
@nutankotak8906 2 жыл бұрын
Just imagine Shehzad, I’m almost 50 and I don’t know anything about my own country’s past! Thanks so much for bringing logic and rationale into the Indo-Pak conversation. A million thanks to you and Professor Ishtiak for this insightful dialogue. We need to relook at the popular narrative spun masterfully by our erstwhile rulers and current political class. We are busy shunning Nehru back home, and Professor Ishtiak is calling him a true statesman.
@randmht9976
@randmht9976 Жыл бұрын
And the truth is in between. Nehru will get appreciation & Redicule where deserved
@shoaibazizmeer
@shoaibazizmeer Жыл бұрын
Indeed Jawaharl Lal Nehru was a statement. India really needs go back to Nehruism.
@induchopra3014
@induchopra3014 Жыл бұрын
Nehru created kashmir problem. By his manhandling
@hasmukhparekh4654
@hasmukhparekh4654 6 ай бұрын
... Bharat needs --> Gandhi + Nehru + Patel + Shashtree + Modi + NeoModi ..... ?! @@induchopra3014
@azlanameer4912
@azlanameer4912 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely excellent discussion. Revelation of such facts is necessary for younger generation. True learning of history will help us to shape better future of Pakistan and the Region.
@malikShoaib-fj6fj
@malikShoaib-fj6fj 3 жыл бұрын
What a rooh-parwar conversation! Oh God! I would like to say amazing for the two of you.
@tejwantsinghsaggu5838
@tejwantsinghsaggu5838 3 жыл бұрын
We are the victims of Egos, Greed & personal scores and so Third party (Britishers) used this to remain (Passive) ruler even after leaving this part of word till now.
@clarkehoward
@clarkehoward 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately true and most unfortunate for us.
@khurramjawaid8355
@khurramjawaid8355 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right, we are the victims by our own hands
@easybiology8044
@easybiology8044 3 жыл бұрын
So true sir..,.it's horrifying ...but truth
@abhaypatel4292
@abhaypatel4292 2 жыл бұрын
@@pinturai9431 no dude...you don't know the horrors and this division lead us to never ending battle..we accomodated Hyderabad, accomodated southern states who were demanding freedom... accomodated north east are still fighting.insurgency and are negotiating with naga in Nagaland..
@prateekraj9946
@prateekraj9946 2 жыл бұрын
@@abhaypatel4292 stupid ,your answer is out of topic.only first and second line is true related to question but the rest is .
@umarhayatkhan4692
@umarhayatkhan4692 Жыл бұрын
This is really an unprecedented conversation which completely eliminates the tricky myths regarding Pakistan's creation inculcated in our minds by the mafias who are dominating it right at the moment, I mean the military establishment and mollahs.. May Allah bless us with more and more Ishtaiqs so that we as a nation may be saved from further distortion.. The credit also goes to the interviewer who has made this conversation very informative and valuable by asking the best and to the point questions.. Both of you are able to be appreciated for this great feat..
@anisulislam1
@anisulislam1 3 жыл бұрын
And because of Jinnah we Bangali had to suffere a lot he made a land part of his country that has nothing common.
@atonukabir7126
@atonukabir7126 3 жыл бұрын
@Aminah Awan better than your Pokistan 😂😂
@Rd0609
@Rd0609 3 ай бұрын
Why did Bengalis vote for Pakistan tho
@subshubhu938
@subshubhu938 3 жыл бұрын
Pakistan needs Academics like him such a inspirational figure...
@tauseefninetyeight
@tauseefninetyeight Жыл бұрын
Rarely do we hear such a well researched, truthful, unbiased analysis from a deeply patriotic Pakistani with regard for humanity,modesty, and truthfulness.Salute,Sir!
@Saral_Lekhi
@Saral_Lekhi Жыл бұрын
My grandmother lost her mental bearings while fleeing from karachi with one child in the belly and two in her arms. The Partition was evil and has ruined atleast 7 if not more generations. Its so unpleasant.... unbearable to hear those stories. Our grandparents lived through hell ....those who did not get killed.
@PankajSharma-ir7fb
@PankajSharma-ir7fb 3 жыл бұрын
Interviewer and the guest both are superb. Refreshing to hear realistic honest view from a Pakistani....
@PankajSharma-ir7fb
@PankajSharma-ir7fb 3 жыл бұрын
@@binurajs yes, I know him. I have read his book. Don't know the in nterviewer though..
@unknownindian6531
@unknownindian6531 3 жыл бұрын
Both of them are good One for his knowledge the other for his ignorance Which is not his fault He has studied under the Pakistani education system
@induchopra3014
@induchopra3014 3 ай бұрын
Jinnah did not sacrifice or go to jail for Pakistan..he was used by British to carry out their agenda. He was not a radical Muslim or a devout muslim..he was handpicked by British for his English and western dress..he was living in London..he was given a task,he acheived it. Thats why we dont see him stand for Sikhs. He had no mind of his own..he took orders from the British.
@PrabhjotSingh-ku5nv
@PrabhjotSingh-ku5nv 8 ай бұрын
Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed is a genius person.. His research on our history is greart... We all. INDIAN respect him a lot... Sach aise bahar anaa bohat zaroori hai... Dono countries ke liye
@rajivbajaj329
@rajivbajaj329 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Prof Ishtiaq Ahmed , I am hugely impressed by your scholarship - I am from Mumbai India . I belong to a family which migrated from Lahore during partition and have a natural affinity for eastern Punjab . There is a raging controversy about the reason why British left India in 1947 . Congressmen & left historians give the reason that it was Congress / Gandhi & Nehru - this is also the ‘official history’ of Independent India post independence as all these historians were leaning towards Nehru’s contribution and totally ignoring the contribution of Subhash Bose and his INA . Some recent revelations say the British were unnerved by January 1946 rebellion by British Navy and other such instances of expected rebellion and the Viceroy wanted 1 lac British troops in India to keep India under control . Also during Atlee’s visit to Calcutta in 1955/56 , when asked why British left India he said categorically INA and that Gandhi’s role in making Britain leave I dia was MINIMAL . As you are a great historian of that period I wud request your views on this matter please .
@anshuraj4277
@anshuraj4277 Жыл бұрын
Bose was on the left
@shubhamsharma8867
@shubhamsharma8867 Жыл бұрын
@@anshuraj4277 don't hurt him
@Priyanka.Rathore
@Priyanka.Rathore Жыл бұрын
Hi, look from what I understand is that Atlee a British Prime Minister will never accept that 'they lost'. I mean they always believed they were superior how could they say Gandhi/Nehru/Navy Revolts made them leave India. When the 2nd World War ended the masses were aware. They had just seen British fight Japan/Germany because they were being imperialistic (exactly what Britishers themselves were). The will of the people was strengthened by all of the above be it S.C Bose's Azad Hind Fauj + Navy Revolts + Red fort trials + Bengal Famine + Quit India Movement. Other factors such as the Balance of power changed in favour of USA and USSR. In fact Britain themselves had to take loans from USA to reconstruct their nation. And British soldiers were done with war. They were in no mood to stay away from their families and fight in India after seeing the destruction. Also, British rule was very much dependent on the civil servants in Indian who were themselves Indian. With the Navy Incident and Azad Hind Fauj they understood that they cannot trust the Indians anymore. It's all a combination is what I mean, but definitely not what Atlee said, you can't expect them to not save their faces you know.
@bigsmoke903
@bigsmoke903 Жыл бұрын
Bose was hardcore communist whereas Nehru was centrist. get your facts right
@baljeet-sandhusingh3369
@baljeet-sandhusingh3369 3 жыл бұрын
SALUTE TO DOCTOR ISHTIAQ AHMED.
@Serious9185
@Serious9185 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing these interviews and bringing these academics in my radar.
@irfanhasan5004
@irfanhasan5004 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for inviting him. Loved it
@salimalvi5178
@salimalvi5178 Жыл бұрын
جو اپنے آباؤ اجداد کی زمین، دریا اور مذہب سے جڑے ہوئے ہیں، وہ پانچ سال میں ایسا کر لیتے ہیں۔ m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/edeid9iElrDRcmw.html
@mehrshahzadkhan
@mehrshahzadkhan 3 жыл бұрын
Loved how he complimented him on his interviewing skills
@prakprnj
@prakprnj 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful . I am pleased with the person who interviewed Dr Ishiataq .
@sunielsharma7555
@sunielsharma7555 3 жыл бұрын
After a long long time I saw beautiful interview . The credit goes to Prof. Saab but credit also to the interviewer who did this interview with all sincerity . Hats off to him . Prof. Saheb you’re have broken quiet a few myths about the partition . Please do tell us about the book when it get released I am sure it will be a good read.
@imranyousaf5389
@imranyousaf5389 3 жыл бұрын
Biggest blunder and his history
@aghasabirhussain7318
@aghasabirhussain7318 5 ай бұрын
Ppppppppppppp
@sabrinakhan8217
@sabrinakhan8217 4 ай бұрын
@@imranyousaf5389 What's this habit of Punjabis and all ethnicities who were ruled by the British. It doesn't mean that you distort history just because your masters the British gave you English schools, printing press, cinemas, radio, factories, parliament, trained armies, railways, dams, bridges and much more. NO tribal of NWFP was interested in Kashmir, especially in 1948. NWFP voted for Congress and Bacha Khan had a strong following there. NWFP used Indian and Afghan currency until 1970's. It was Punjabi army-the stooges of the British in civilian clothes who attacked Kashmir. Nehru and Indian leaders had written off Kashmir and had informed the Maharaja that he can join Pakistan, The Proxy attack by Pakistan gave India good reason to stay there permanently. After the so called "tribal" attack , Sheikh Abdullah appealed to India for help as the "tribals" ( read army) were looting and raping ( as ordered by Jinnah) the Muslim women. They were not into liberating Kashmir. India insisted that it could not help as Kashmir had not acceded to India. The Sheikh then signed the papers of accession and India sent in its army. This is how British stooge Jinnah handed over Kashmir to India. The other stooge of British aka Punjabi army is 100% responsible for the destruction of Pakistan's economy and political institutions.
@abhisheksharma-zn7lm
@abhisheksharma-zn7lm 3 жыл бұрын
Ishtiaq sir is a very balanced person .... i follow him often ..... every interview of him gives more clarity ..... about the past ..... thanks for the interview.
@atharali1027
@atharali1027 3 жыл бұрын
Waiting for sir third book . I have also read his other two books People should also read these books.
@saadmir1950
@saadmir1950 3 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me his book list?
@amitabhkumar3816
@amitabhkumar3816 3 жыл бұрын
Bhai per ye books mileyeingi kuhan ???
@salimalvi5178
@salimalvi5178 Жыл бұрын
جو اپنے آباؤ اجداد کی زمین، دریا اور مذہب سے جڑے ہوئے ہیں، وہ پانچ سال میں ایسا کر لیتے ہیں۔ m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/edeid9iElrDRcmw.html
@envynone14
@envynone14 3 жыл бұрын
Massacre of Sikhs in Rawalpindi sat off killings on either side. One of my sikh friend's mother was witness to that tragedy, as she was a child and survived by hiding.
@induchopra3014
@induchopra3014 Жыл бұрын
Sikhs history is full of Muslims killing murdering Sikhs. Read their history. Read your own history. Why sikh population in Pakistan is so less???? Where are Sikhs of Pakistan????
@s.saleem9936
@s.saleem9936 10 ай бұрын
Massacre in reply to Massacre isn't justified. If 5 thousand were killed in one area by one majority, 7 thousand got killed in reply by other majority in another area. Now what was the mistake of those 13 thousands, they were not the culprits why did they pay for the crime of other people of their believes. What happened in Rawalpindi cannt justified what happened afterwards
@HamzaAli-ee1oh
@HamzaAli-ee1oh 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was waiting for it. Thank you Shehzad❣
@mithsindia5150
@mithsindia5150 3 жыл бұрын
What a gentleman god bless him🙏. Learned historian and a humane person. And interviewer too is quite unbiased and great listener.
@SalmanKhan-rz3mc
@SalmanKhan-rz3mc Жыл бұрын
You are bringing forth the objective history. Pakistani masses need this much needed clarity. The books that we read after our schooling are being talked about openly. Great work. Keep it up.
@naseemsoherwardy2534
@naseemsoherwardy2534 3 жыл бұрын
Great work of history and truth by professor Sahab
@ViewsAndNewsChannel
@ViewsAndNewsChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Allama Mashriqi's grandson (Nasim Yousaf) wrote in his book published in 2007: "The main objective of dividing India was to keep any regional power from rising against the West. The intricacies of this are described as follows. First, the aim was to weaken the Muslims ... On the other hand, Pakistan was also created ...to prevent the rise of Hindus ...Through East and West wings of Pakistan, the world powers could pull India’s strings as and when desired. India was also divided to thwart the spread of communism. It was felt that India might go far left, and communism might spread into India, which would pose a significant threat to the West... Hence, the West wanted to prevent the influence of communism from spreading into the region..." 1) Hidden Facts Behind British India's Freedom: A Scholarly Look Into Allama Mashraqi and Quaid-E-Azam's Political Conflict (2007), page 296
@Diwana71
@Diwana71 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. We must face our history. Presently in the present times where new divisive forces are again rising.
@ViewsAndNewsChannel
@ViewsAndNewsChannel 3 жыл бұрын
@@Diwana71 Thanks! Author Nasim Yousaf (Allama Mashriqi's grandson) views about Jinnah, Gandhi & the partition of India facebook.com/AuthorNasimYousaf/photos/?tab=album&ref= kzfaq.info/sun/PLbiCHHl6HdCYoVAG9SR6ZZ9-H5iR9kLhY archive.org/details/@nasimyousaf Must Read: "India & Pakistan Owe their Freedom to Allama Mashriqi" archive.org/details/india-pakistan-owe-their-freedom-to-allama-mashriqi
@ViewsAndNewsChannel
@ViewsAndNewsChannel 3 жыл бұрын
@Labhesh Haria آ
@ViewsAndNewsChannel
@ViewsAndNewsChannel 3 жыл бұрын
@Labhesh Haria Thanks for your nice comment. You should read Mr. Nasim Yousaf's (Allama Mashriqi's grandson and researcher) books on Jinnah and Gandhi. Being a grandson of Allama sahib, he is the only researcher/author who knows the inside stories about Jinnah, Gandhi, and the partition of India. Sadly, We have never heard Prof Ishtiaq Ahmed (@Ishtiaq) Ahmed talking about Allama Mashriqi and the Khaksar Tehrik. Mr. Yousaf's books are eye openers and areavailable on Amazon. Many of them can be downloaded. Links to Books/articles: www.amazon.com/Nasim-Yousaf/e/B001JRVVWY archive.org/details/@nasimyousaf
@nacpatil
@nacpatil 2 жыл бұрын
If I keep blaming my grandfathers dad for what is happening now then its my mistake not his or his times. So yes britishers caused issues but for todays situation respective countries are responsible. Also remember Jinha was pakistnai and was supported by people here. So blame doesnt help.
@growrich7205
@growrich7205 2 жыл бұрын
Shahzad, you are a case study against those who say: man is selfish by nature. Wonderful work!
@mohdbilalabbasi
@mohdbilalabbasi 3 жыл бұрын
The Origin of Pakistan seems more interesting and mysterious than the origin of universe itself.
@cogito9350
@cogito9350 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂 , oh man I was all serious listening this podcast , you made my day
@malikShoaib-fj6fj
@malikShoaib-fj6fj 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@ptaffo
@ptaffo 3 жыл бұрын
the more mysterious part is it's still functioning. 😂
@vinamrasinghai2339
@vinamrasinghai2339 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, it was based on vote of 1946 elections.
@ptaffo
@ptaffo 3 жыл бұрын
@@vinamrasinghai2339 Pakistan map was drawn before 1942 dear. Just check it.
@NeshmiyaAKhan
@NeshmiyaAKhan Жыл бұрын
Just discovered your podcast series - so many good ones! And this one is amazing!
@Mayasram
@Mayasram 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I have to away and wrap my mind around all that I learnt/ discovered today. Now I cannot I ‘us think’ the many things that emerged from this chat.
@ajeetrayakar7582
@ajeetrayakar7582 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the insightful history lessons!!
@adnandada7458
@adnandada7458 3 жыл бұрын
Shahzad this is the way to go. Touchè buddy. Amazing episode.
@M.Sekhon
@M.Sekhon 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing as dr shaib said you were fully prepared
@RahulSingh-vp8dx
@RahulSingh-vp8dx 3 жыл бұрын
An excellent interview marred by terrible technical glitches - many crucial parts of the discussion are inaudible.
@prakashkonnur825
@prakashkonnur825 3 жыл бұрын
It is heartening to note that Dr Ishtiaq Ahmad tacitly accepts the hindu roots of all Pakistanis.It is true that our caste system has done a lot of damage.
@smithlouisnk9913
@smithlouisnk9913 3 жыл бұрын
@nwfp nwfp Hinduism is not like Roman or Greek paganism. It is in fact very diverse with some sects opposing idol worship & some avowing agnosticism
@applepie2721
@applepie2721 3 жыл бұрын
@@smithlouisnk9913 A follower of Arabian death cult won't understand the philosophy of Sanatana Dharma. You stick with fantasies of An illetrate Arabian warlord
@HA-rn2iu
@HA-rn2iu Жыл бұрын
Caste is an English word. Please find the Indian word that we used for caste and come and reply here. When you find that word, research what it means, where it comes from, writings about those words.
@rajendragujjar3045
@rajendragujjar3045 3 жыл бұрын
Yesterday I bought the book.. Punjab bloodied. partitioned.... I am reading it today..... Superb work and superb book by Shri istiyaq Ahmad Sir
@navneetsingh8169
@navneetsingh8169 3 жыл бұрын
From where Hindi version or english one
@rajendragujjar3045
@rajendragujjar3045 3 жыл бұрын
@@navneetsingh8169 english version.... I think no hindi version is available... I bought online from Amazon
@navneetsingh8169
@navneetsingh8169 3 жыл бұрын
Can u plz post the link here
@rajendragujjar3045
@rajendragujjar3045 3 жыл бұрын
@@navneetsingh8169 www.amazon.in/dp/8129129612?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
@rajendragujjar3045
@rajendragujjar3045 3 жыл бұрын
@@navneetsingh8169 it's printed price is Rs. 495 but Amazon charged 712 ruppe.so try any other way to purchase...
@aimalkhan4259
@aimalkhan4259 3 жыл бұрын
I think partition deserves a TV series
@oddman7018
@oddman7018 2 жыл бұрын
High Quality content, Great pair People, thanks a lot for doing this interview, highly appreciated 😌👌🏻
@AdityaKumar-sv6hz
@AdityaKumar-sv6hz Жыл бұрын
I'm here for first time. Dr. Ishtiyaq seems a very thoughtful and rational. Peoples like him changing the pre conceived motion about creation of Pakistan. Every Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi should have aware about the great game!! Hindus and Muslims was very safe in a common sky, then why the separatist politics uprised exponentially during 40's ? That was definitely an external encouragement for the same. 1. Majority Muslims was Safe in Hindu king rule (kashmir) 2. Muslims and Hindus were safe in Sikh ruled Punjab. 3. Hindus was safe in long Prosperous Mughal Empire. 4. Later, Hindus and Muslims both were very happy and prosperous during reigns of Muslim Nababs of Bengal. 5. Muslim, Christian, parsis, Jain's had no Issue in Mighty Maratha Empire, Even the founder of maratha Empire, sivaji had muslim cannonman (topchi). 'the most value war weapons during mediaeval period'. Indian Subcontinent can't be prosperous without unifying. And we oppose it.... This is our unfortunate.
@mohammadramzan4968
@mohammadramzan4968 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely calculated interview Appriciate both the guest and the host.
@gaganbhatia6696
@gaganbhatia6696 3 жыл бұрын
Very good and honest effort. Gr8 discussion and good homework done by host. It is pleasure to find such informed hosts.
@moderndemocracychannel4699
@moderndemocracychannel4699 3 жыл бұрын
Again l like to say thanks from core of my heart because your work is very much informative because I am a student of history and there is no different between your and my views partition of India and due to visionary approach of J.L. Nehru that our democracy remain save till today
@AmitMishra-lx7er
@AmitMishra-lx7er 3 жыл бұрын
Intellectual & straight forward person. regards from India.
@mohammadsajid8204
@mohammadsajid8204 6 ай бұрын
Really impressed and astonished to hear ishtiyaq sir. I am Mohammad saajid from kashmir india
@shubhjeetful23
@shubhjeetful23 4 ай бұрын
I think Dr. Ishitaq mentioned one very important point. Gandhi was there in the midst of massacre urging people to stop killing. And where was Jinnah. Nowhere.
@anuragranjan8202
@anuragranjan8202 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video.
@spmmca
@spmmca 3 жыл бұрын
Kudos to the host and Hats off to Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed! So clear and crystal his analysis... I am eager to read his book.
@riteshkaushik
@riteshkaushik Жыл бұрын
Ok I think I am addicted to Dr. Ahmed - have listened to him back to back over the last week or so and still I want more and have heaps of questions. Another brilliant interview
@prakku
@prakku 3 жыл бұрын
Good interview. Enjoyed listening to the conversation.
@user-gk6xg5er7g
@user-gk6xg5er7g 11 ай бұрын
In awe of Prof. Ishtiaq Ahmed’s intellectual honesty, clarity of thought, eloquence and mastery of subject. His thorough research and evidence based conclusions in an attempt to analyse a bloody and bitter part of our mutual history is delivered with refreshing transparency. In the polarised world of today where propaganda rules the sound waves, Prof. Dr Ishtiaq’s enlightened voice is so very welcome. His research and voice should be amplified as much possible.
@pratapgadhvi7091
@pratapgadhvi7091 3 жыл бұрын
Look forward to more informed and balanced interview
@pioamalraj9791
@pioamalraj9791 2 жыл бұрын
It is amazing to hear Professor Saab speak in English and Hindi/Urdu fluently. he probably knows other European languages as well.
@Jvs-eq3iy
@Jvs-eq3iy 11 ай бұрын
He knows Swedish. He is a citizen of Sweden.
@ayeshaasad890
@ayeshaasad890 3 жыл бұрын
Fresh insight. Thank you.
@bharatchoudhary540
@bharatchoudhary540 3 жыл бұрын
Good discussion. Very insightful.
@vijaysekhri4352
@vijaysekhri4352 11 күн бұрын
Prof. Ahmed is a true history teller. He confirms all I know. My best friends are Hindus, Muslims, and Sikhs. We have very harmonious relationships. Shame on the politicians who tried to divide us. Some horrible people.
@Raj-nh3fc
@Raj-nh3fc Жыл бұрын
Very informative interview and thank you both for both arranging and conducting the meeting and enlightening us. Gems of reason and wisdom from the hard work of Dr. Ahmad.
@sukhmanikahlon
@sukhmanikahlon Жыл бұрын
This is such a good effort at bringing out information unique to the painful partition! You got a new subscriber!
@anuchugh31
@anuchugh31 Жыл бұрын
Hope this interview is widely watched in India and also acknowledge Nehru tried to stop partition. Thanks for all the information in simplified manner. Didn’t know you before but got to know about your sojourn in our treasure, India. Have a nice time here.
@prakashpant6288
@prakashpant6288 Жыл бұрын
Dr Ishtiaq Saheb , lots of respect from New Delhi and big thanx to the brilliant interviewer
@knowledgebox8886
@knowledgebox8886 3 жыл бұрын
Very enlightening, I wish many more such shows on Indian history.
@zainabhamid7777
@zainabhamid7777 3 жыл бұрын
Dude i love this show. you're the best shehzad 🌻💜
@sarmadsohail361
@sarmadsohail361 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for such an illuminating podcast. It really helped to unshackle my mind from the mountain of absurdities that was fed since childhood.
@harjindermeetsingh6258
@harjindermeetsingh6258 3 жыл бұрын
Prof.Istiaq Ahmed is a great author and you are a great Anker. Good 👍 interview
@JaydeepSinha
@JaydeepSinha 3 жыл бұрын
Loved every beat of this interview. He's so impartial and presented the details beautifully with arguments.
@ankushdas1995
@ankushdas1995 3 жыл бұрын
Such unopinionated raw facts. Full of intelectual juice. Love from Indian Australian.
@ShahzaibAli-sb5wi
@ShahzaibAli-sb5wi 3 жыл бұрын
ONE OF THE BEST EPISODES SO FAAAAAAR!
@PoonamBh
@PoonamBh Жыл бұрын
Superb convo, exemplary work !
@abdulghafoor-tk8oh
@abdulghafoor-tk8oh Жыл бұрын
An excellent contribution by both on the issue, well done Dr Ishtiaq sahib
@vidhisingh260
@vidhisingh260 3 жыл бұрын
IM just glad that there are honest conversations are happening in Pakistan. I hope both countries realise that their best interest is in moving forward together. But for that both countries need to put their houses in order.
@PradeepSaddha0
@PradeepSaddha0 2 жыл бұрын
Then who stops u people to have a conversation over caste based discrimination in India ??
@Vk-sk7nm
@Vk-sk7nm Жыл бұрын
@@PradeepSaddha0 it is happening since I was born. In school books it was written caste based discrimination is social evil. There are intellectuals, movies, books which are applauded and there is a ongoing conversation as long as I remember. In urban areas caste based discrimination is declined. In villages my generation is also quite aware and keep harmony with people from different caste and religion. You have to see it in broader perspective. There are still people who does this but they are not entertained in mainstream.
@PradeepSaddha0
@PradeepSaddha0 Жыл бұрын
@@Vk-sk7nm no I don agree that it has been declined or moving towards dat side, it has become micro in urban areas, I live in delhi i was born in delhi n brought up in delhi, i know caste system is an integral part of Hindu religion, if you see Hindu without aste system Hindu religion starts collapsing.. so no need to say it is declined it is moving towards a more complex form which will definitely create a type of situation of civil war, on the top of the hierarchy will suffer the most.
@dharmicindia6325
@dharmicindia6325 Жыл бұрын
That’ll take……. 500 years
@PradeepSaddha0
@PradeepSaddha0 Жыл бұрын
@@dharmicindia6325 it starts happening, in lower strata, low caste groups start organizing in India as well as in Europe and US...
@tinkapatosi1314
@tinkapatosi1314 3 жыл бұрын
8:53 Oooo... Shehzad that is a teacher's pat on your back. He sooo acknowledges your effort here.
@tehreemali2066
@tehreemali2066 3 жыл бұрын
I felt second hand validation! Smiled like a goof 😅
@abhijitbhadra7853
@abhijitbhadra7853 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic interview and insights...
@irfanfazli407
@irfanfazli407 Жыл бұрын
I immensely respect Dr. Ishtiaq. He has given me a true and an unbiased details on the background history of independence. Thank you Dr. Ishtiaq.
@SatBiswas
@SatBiswas 3 жыл бұрын
Sir Ishtiaq AhmedI have always had a great respect towards your scholarship and my sincere regards to your health and happiness! Your scholarship might reach us both India and Pakistan as two prosperous Nation Sates!
@Billumian47
@Billumian47 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Sat Biswas ji.
@bhupindersinghkanwar5681
@bhupindersinghkanwar5681 3 жыл бұрын
If sikh had allied with jinnah ..theirs all existence had been disappeared and lived in conflict and gone mad with islamic violent
@Kinginthenorth64
@Kinginthenorth64 3 жыл бұрын
But at least they would be able to put a sentence together🤷🏻‍♂️
@raushan7856
@raushan7856 3 жыл бұрын
Sikh should convert Muslim girls in Punjab India
@harisadu8998
@harisadu8998 2 жыл бұрын
@@raushan7856 They spared Malerkotla.
@nishant4262
@nishant4262 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kinginthenorth64 like your cricketers?
@rachhpalgill1180
@rachhpalgill1180 3 жыл бұрын
So great! Salute
@shashankethane
@shashankethane 3 жыл бұрын
Best podcast on this channel till date my god!!
@shamsahussain139
@shamsahussain139 3 жыл бұрын
V true thanks allot God bless you 😇
@rajivbajaj329
@rajivbajaj329 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Prof Ishtiaq - thanks in advance and best regards
@qamarulhaqkhan700
@qamarulhaqkhan700 Жыл бұрын
Thank You very much sir for this clarity.
@oasishomeopathy7313
@oasishomeopathy7313 Жыл бұрын
Shahzad has been doing a great job. Such priceless podcasts. 👍👍👍
@alexandarpatrick778
@alexandarpatrick778 3 жыл бұрын
yar the interview was soo much interesting eye opening.. but Doktor saab ki awaz baar baar cut rahi thi.. plz ask him to improve his internet connection.. coz i couldnot understand alot of the words...
@avishekm1985
@avishekm1985 3 жыл бұрын
Great interview. I have never seen such an unbiased interview.
@afshanfazeel7367
@afshanfazeel7367 Жыл бұрын
Finally, voice of reason. True history is out to read and share. Bravo.
@yasminabrar3798
@yasminabrar3798 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Ishtiaq said good things he has lot of knowledge he speaks with logic thank you sir
@salimalvi5178
@salimalvi5178 Жыл бұрын
جو اپنے آباؤ اجداد کی زمین، دریا اور مذہب سے جڑے ہوئے ہیں، وہ پانچ سال میں ایسا کر لیتے ہیں۔ m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/edeid9iElrDRcmw.html
@bakhtawarfirdous1794
@bakhtawarfirdous1794 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for coming up with such an amazing content 👏
@rajasview864
@rajasview864 3 жыл бұрын
It's very Informative interview. .. and very good knowledgeable anchor.....
@cosmicwarriorx1
@cosmicwarriorx1 Жыл бұрын
Great discussion... Lot of food for thought.
@amitjain627
@amitjain627 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice discussion. I like the brave ppl in Pakistan who r struggling for a better pak.
@RajbirSingh-kp7dj
@RajbirSingh-kp7dj 2 жыл бұрын
Sir, thanks for sharing true information in the normal public
@abdulhaq6168
@abdulhaq6168 3 жыл бұрын
Good objective research work by Ithtiaq Ahmed .
@NaveedAhmad-nx8yq
@NaveedAhmad-nx8yq 3 жыл бұрын
really appreciate...
@haroon420
@haroon420 Жыл бұрын
My family lives near Gujjar Khan. When I was young (maybe 15/16) in late 1990s, I had a conversation with my uncle (aunts husband). He said he was maybe 12 at the time of partition. He said that the villages had Sikh people and when partition happened, they went out in organised groups to chase/kill the Sikhs. I felt sick knowing that we did that. Sadly, because I was younger, I didn’t ask much more about the time from my elders and now they’ve all passed away. He said it was in retaliation for the sikh/Hindu killing of Muslims who were travelling from India. But how would they know?? They didn’t have telephones back then. How could they communicate and get news to them. And why would they take revenge on innocent parties. Partition was a total human disaster and I don’t think Pakistan has made an honest effort of trying to understand the senseless violence. They did not try to gather oral histories from people. It’s such a shame. And I understand if they didn’t want to dig the past and try to apportion blame. But then if that’s the case, you try to heal the past and start fresh. Let bygones be bygones. You can’t use the past as an excuse for enmity and then not be honest in examining it.
@haroon420
@haroon420 Жыл бұрын
Another interesting anecdote I have is that we have some land near the India border (given to my grandfather by the army). One day some Sikhs were allowed to come onto the land and they dug around a tree and there were some valuables they dug out and took back with them to India. In a way, I’m happy that they had a chance to be reunited with their valuables but I would’ve been much much much more happier if they were allowed to come back and take ownership of their ancestral land.
@loveyue6487
@loveyue6487 Жыл бұрын
You wont like this but muslims as a whole are more easy to manipulate into fighting and violence and something tells me most of them even enjoy the bloodshed.
@s.saleem9936
@s.saleem9936 Жыл бұрын
There were no telephones but there were oral narratives and rumors. Rumors are more dangerous when there are less source of communication. And then there were immigrants coming from India. I have heard that when they reached Pakistan with the horrible stories and dedbodies, they challenged the "ghairat" of Pakistani Muslims and some places gifted them bangles. This provoked the violent behaviour. Then there were criminals on both sides who took advantage of the situation. Violence at that times were on both side of border, anytime trying to be victim is dishonest
@sonju2k71
@sonju2k71 6 ай бұрын
You are a good person ❤
@dakansen5613
@dakansen5613 3 жыл бұрын
A remarkable interview. The honesty and insight shown by both interviewer and interviewee are unprecedented for a Pakistani program. I wish your channel all the very best. Hope you grow to have a million subscribers.
@pritesharte1
@pritesharte1 5 ай бұрын
Indian appreciates contribution of Muslim , Christian, Sikhs and Parsi in Indian Independence struggle. In our history in Indian schools we study all these.
@jamichqndio
@jamichqndio Жыл бұрын
This talk by Dr Ishtiaq sb is very interesting and worth listening
@rdsharma1973
@rdsharma1973 3 жыл бұрын
Commendable effort Shahjad. Indeed impressed with u !! Listening Dr Ishtiaq is always a pleasure. Hope u can share relavant links. Plz have more sessions with him. Wish u succes in all ur endeavours !!
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