at least

Negative. 1k minimum!?🤣💀

They still say it in UFL. Not ironicly either, just out of habit.

I'll take the over

That was already dead…

I still can't believe how baloney that was

😡

As a raider fan this still pisses me off

I was just about to bring this shyt up

Agreed. Chain gang is great theater.

Yes but so stupid. They always say that they won't review everything to prevent a delay of the game, but than they need to have two 70 years old dudes coming onto the field with the chains. Last year, a dude broke his leg because a player run into him on the sideline.

Come to germany. It will take at least a decade until hawk eye will be implemented. Most players aren't even getting paid yet

The chains led to many incorrect calls. It's very good for the game of football that they're gone

As we expand into Europe, our antiquated ways are embarrassing. That's likely one of reasons for this change.

EXACTLY!! chains are not the issue, it’s the refs interpretation of where the ball should be placed that’s controversial!

And the thing is, no amount of technology can help with spotting the ball accurately. The reason why is because of the rules of what constitutes a player being down and human anatomy. It is inherently subjective and will continue to be as such.

If where the ball should be marked could be accurately determined, there wouldn’t be a need for chain in the first place.

quit telling the truth

Its sad there wont be another "quiet" game. Where even if things go wrong, they can play a regular low tech game of football just in case. Just more of when the power went out after halftime and we all just sit around and wait....

Good luck. The NFL came out with a report saying that they investigated those claims and found no difference in injury reports on turf vs grass fields. I think its BS but it just shows they don’t care

I read a few of those reports and honestly, they were interesting. The increase in injuries seemed to be for foot injuries instead of knee or hip injuries. And strong evidence that a simple change in footwear would fix most of the problem. Not saying it’s all facts, but it is interesting.

​@RedBeardRey and I have read plenty of reports saying the EXACT opposite of that claim. Turf is objectively worse than normal grass.

@@troybaxterI think just playing on turf vs grass a lot I can tell the difference between them and turf is defiantly worse on my body

​@@RedBeardReyRichardson got a concussion from hitting his head on the turf so I agree this is an issue needing a solution.

Turf is not “much worse”. Quit crying

​@PhysicalFortitude Yes it is

@@Maddenhawk There’s no proof of it, it’s all a subjective matter. There are a multitude of factors that go into injuries.

@@PhysicalFortitude Absolutely laughable.

@@PhysicalFortitude If you have ever actually taken a proper hit on turf which you havent as a soy boy obviously, you would know turf sucks balls. Period end of discussion its the NFL pay up if you actually care about safety.

This is to distract people from all that.

This was somebody's job

It’s a laughing stock

Spotting the ball properly is a big problem, also. Hopefully this allows the ball to be spotted more accurately

@@darrinnoble No - the chain gang was only kept so long because people found it entertaining... You are an idiot if you think the removal of them would distract when they were a literal distraction...

Exactly! This is about the NFL seeking ways to violate the integrity of the game. Nothing else.

No it’s not, how about waiting until this new tech actually comes out before you start crying fraud.

Amen!!!!

Watch the electronics won’t work in rain or snow, cold or heat.

The chains add a little bit of drama and suspense to the game that will no longer exist.

@@biglineman34 YES. You said it EXACTLY!

100% on board

Hoping to see this or I would have written it.

Lame and dumb. Might as well let the computer decide if the field goal will be kicked good and take the field goal out. Might as well take out every ref ever and have it all reviewed by people watching fixed cameras operated by people in the stands with no field view. Or maybe the guys holding the camera rigs will be like representative of the refs upstairs cause you don’t want them in the way. No no no. God forbid you train your refs better.

@@RichardPhist1terrible analogy. Electronic spotting isn’t “deciding” anything. It’s just making sure things are accurate. Refs should have as little impact on the game as possible so if a person behind a screen becomes the future of referees, if it’s resulting in better calls, who cares. Refs still need to be on the field to spot the ball/separate piles, manage players, etc.

That's what I was wondering. As a fan at the game, I still want to be able to see where the marker is. I'm sure the players do as well.

See the index card measurement play. Clearly NOT a first down

The chains were the easiest thing to lie about. The ball spot and chain gang are done by humans and will never get a perfect spot nor will they ever get the chains perfectly placed

@@FrakintheboX That's because you're assuming that the location the pole was set at was in fact the EXACT spot where the runner stopped, even though the runner has 8 guys on top of him!!! Therein lies the problem! For example, assume it's 3rd & 1 and the offense goes for a rushing play...and the QB hands off to the running back, who after crossing the LOS, is immediately bombarded by 5 defenders, no one can see exactly where the true spot of the ball should be simply because by the time you pull everyone off the running back, he may have moved one way or another that will affect the call and thus, affect the game!

But… they DID lie about it… all the time

Wtf are you talking about 😂

Dunder Mifflin Paper companies Scranton office might go out of business for good now. Poor Michael Scott, pray for him. 🙏🏽

“TURKUDURR”!

It's like asking anyone born after 2000 what a woman is

"actual measuring devices" - old men with sticks & a chain that still manage to screw it up🤣

​@RyTrapp0 screw it up?...... like 1 in 5000 measurements? Ya big problem!

Be a patriot and pirate the games

Dolphins and Chiefs on Peacock. SMH

If I had a dollar for every great “chain” game I remember since the mid 80’s. It would definitely be a total of no dollars!? Yours would be the same

They will have them out there.

And chipping the ball doesn't solve the inherent issue of what constitutes the ball stopping. It isn't the ball's momentum, but the location of a second body (the player). And the player is going to be the absolute hardest to determine if they are down or not, because it's not just single points, but various parts of your body.

Hearing all this talk about chains in the comments and them on the show brings me back to football my first year of football in the 5th grade 😂

Right, the refs move the ball from where it was spotted to where it will be put into play. The center moves the ball before the snap. Will there be a "whoop....whoop" horn sound if the refs or center don't get the ball spot right after the initial spot?

We'll still probably use the phrase, like "touchdown"

@@scharnhorst_42 crap I've been calling it homerun this whole time !

@@patrick815 I was using goal, so I guess we're fine.

what did Mike McDaniel do lmao

@@noahcardinal3789 He knows what he did.

They will still be there, just not being the primary way of measurement

No mo move the chains, now it's the A.I. thangs

Saving money? The sensors and computers involved w staff trained to interpret will be much more costly.

saving money? changing anything on a national scale is not money saving.

They probably do it for free just to be at the game anyway.

The UFL is using it very well every week

And even then, when you have a mass of bodies around a player, it can be impossible to tell when they hit the ground. People want to point to Europe, but the reality is that their game is more cut and dry and cleaner as to whether or not a ball or player crosses a line. That isn't the case with football because it is far more dynamic.

It is important for the viewers. For drama and credibility purposes.

For real I can't remember it ever happening. Ever

Bubba Smith

Only if you do something about your grammar.

​@@Half-CockedGlooser

​@@jazzissick4152 than what?

@@jazzissick4152 you doubled down on the poor grammar 🤣

@@a1rv0n82I think that’s the point but you never know with people 😂

It's stupid when I can use my eyeballs and see that the refs miss the spot all the time. It can completely change the game just like a botched PI call, but unlike botched PIs , you can actually fix it and get it right every time.

😂😂😂😊

So how did it work? Where was the camera? I’m curious how that will work on something like a QB sneak, or something where there’s just a big pile of bodies.

It might not be the exact same boat, but even if you replaced those planks with much more durable steel, as long as it floats, it’s still a boat, and it’s a better boat.

If Walmart still had those greeters they would be the only nice people in Walmart.

So measuring is less accurate?

"Correct calls are bad, keep the archaic system that leads to more incorrect calls!"

@@MrJohansen exactly

"SCIENCE IS DUMB" - einstein

Technology is great when it works

You are correct - forward progress is more of an issue than the precision of a 10 yard chain.

Technology ain't gonna help with the spot because you still need to know when the player is down and whether or not the ball has been jarred loose.

If you go down the rabbit hole you will find out they are not reliable

Lol “reliable”

“reliable” bro they have 82 year olds with thicker glasses than your viena sausage measuring the line

These comments are cracking me up, like we haven't seen the refs pull the chains out and STILL manage to blow the call😂

It's not the simple. You have to consider the state of the player and whether they are down or not. Yeah, we can see if the ball crosses the goalline, but the question is whether or not the player's body was on the ground before the ball crossed or if the ball gets jarred loose. It's just not as simple as y'all make it out to be, and parse through the noise to find the accurate and reliable data is sometimes outright impossible.

Fr

Some one said when you don't recognize it's time to move on

@@idontknow-ym4wy damn. Ouch. I feel like I've heard a quote similar to that before.

Took YER JERB!

Took my JERB!!!!!

der derk er derrrrrrb!

2:05 it didnt slide between them all the way, thats why he marked it first down.

Same ones that monitor the balls.💀

They say that because it's the *TV people* putting the line on the field, not the league. Because it's a TV feature, not actually apart of the game, they aren't apart of the officials. As if a guy holding a stick "about" where a ref said the ball should be was ever accurate...

This is. A good point. The audit function needs to be thoroughly vetted first. So it won’t be…,

So the guy holding the first stick jogs off the sideline, 30 yards out onto the field, watching out for players and officials, keeping an eye on the chain and his stick partner... then puts it down on the field where he thinks he was on the sideline. I think the sensors can probably achieve that accuracy. 😁

​@cf2851 yeah that's not how chain gang works. There is a marker that clips to the links of the chain that delineated the LOS and thats where the down marker goes. The 2 side judges then keep track of thr original LOS and the current LOS so if the chains go down they can line the chains up exactly the way they were before. The chain gang system is so incredible accurate at spotting the ball it's almost unbelievable.

It just eliminates error. Why is it bad?

There is no good in an evil-hearted woman And I'm not cut out to be no Jesse James And you don't go writing hot cheques down in Mississippi And there is no good chain gang

Loosen the tin foil hat bud and get a hobby.

The Earth is round kid...

@@darrellgrant7615if the nfl doesn’t manipulate games than their refs must be 20+ iq below average because no other sport has close to the amount of blown obvious calls that decide games

​@@darrellgrant7615 hat not required, officiating went to hell the same time they allowed gambling.

Since carrying around two sticks connected to a chain has no room for manipulation 😂

Nahhh, they gotta evolve. Embrace the technology

I will now. Start complaining about you pointing out the nonsense of my complaints!? 🤣💀

Sensors on the balls don't help when you need to know when and where the player's body touched the ground first.