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Ian Wishart on the Scott Watson Appeal

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Michael Laws talks to Ian Wishart about the Scott Watson appeal.
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@FKTHESYSTEM063
@FKTHESYSTEM063 2 ай бұрын
Rob Pope needs to be investigated
@FKTHESYSTEM063
@FKTHESYSTEM063 2 ай бұрын
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@user-xr7vo7zz8r
@user-xr7vo7zz8r 2 ай бұрын
knew he was inline for promotion . high profile double murder ,, no solve no ladder climb .. wisharts saying this but if in police brief and statements why not put them in as evidence and let jury decide if he was lying or not ,,
@mikevanblommestein5726
@mikevanblommestein5726 2 ай бұрын
The finding of Olivia’s hair on the blanket after it had already been forensically searched and then rechecked after the police took the hair brush from her home, seems very suspect to me. Plenty of questions have not really been answered properly.
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
The chain of evidence is clear, its laughable to argue that vinter forgot to clean her workspace and the hair stayed there through her examinations of multple pieces of evidence before she got to the other hair at the end of the day
@jimijamesjowitt
@jimijamesjowitt 2 ай бұрын
Also hair proves nothing without a dna match. "Hair matching" is a debunked forensics method. After dna testing many were proven to be other people or even animals or synthetic fibres.
@bobmasefield317
@bobmasefield317 2 ай бұрын
Sounds exactly like the 22cal shell casing found at the Crewe scene that stiched up Arthur Thomas.
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
@bobmasefield317 no one has accused tge police of planting tge hair not even scotts defense team Its a laughable argument
@jimijamesjowitt
@jimijamesjowitt 2 ай бұрын
​@@stumpy2120Hair means nothing. Without a dna match its just random hair.
@5150show
@5150show 2 ай бұрын
Not the first time the New Zealand police have stitched up an innocent man , the police planted a gun cartridge to help convict A A Thomas of double murder
@Goodiesfanful
@Goodiesfanful 2 ай бұрын
The AAT case was the one that brought police misconduct and planting of evidence to the fore. Before then, it was unthinkable to consider the police were capable of such things and suggestions of fabricating evidence were likely to alienate a jury. Now we say “remember Arthur Allan Thomas” to a jury and they consider the possibility of planting a whole lot more. In prison communities, the issue of police misconduct is so well known to them they have prison slang for it.
@grantsutherland6798
@grantsutherland6798 2 ай бұрын
Problem is this guy Wishart has prolonged the agony of those he has accused that are virtually proven innocent. The guy is a disgrace
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
​@grantsutherland6798 scott watson is wildly guilty, its not even close
@Goodiesfanful
@Goodiesfanful 2 ай бұрын
@@grantsutherland6798I read online that some stores won’t stock Wishart’s books. Now that says something about his reputation.
@grantsutherland6798
@grantsutherland6798 2 ай бұрын
@@Goodiesfanful trump is bad enough for lies. This guy is a joke calling himself a journalist
@rockyrooster-j4j
@rockyrooster-j4j 2 ай бұрын
A lot of witnesses testified they saw the two masted ketch on December 31st. Just because the police couldn't find it, doesn't mean it wasn't there.
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
The only person who claimed to see it that night was wallace. Every single other skipper said it wasnt there
@utubermax
@utubermax 2 ай бұрын
@@stumpy2120 just where do you get your info from stumpy? You talk an awful lot of crap and because of its unique nature, it was seen and by a lot of other people in a lot of other places that summer. And, of course, there was Morrisey who was also in the water taxi when B&O were dropped off at the ketch. But you carry on spreading your bs.
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
@utubermax oh a boat was seen somewhere at a place and time other than endevor inlet on new years eve? How could that possibly be relevant
@utubermax
@utubermax 2 ай бұрын
@@stumpy2120 it proves that it existed - something which the police denied. But you with a closed mind... You're as bad a Wishart on this occasion.
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
@utubermax it proves ketches existed? Did anyone doubt that ketches existed? Police certainly didnt, the boarded/eliminated over 400 ketches, some as far away as fiji
@maxlevett7474
@maxlevett7474 2 ай бұрын
How can the mystery man and SW be the same person when the mystery man was drinking bourbons at the bar 2 hours before SW came ashore Witnessed by 3 bar staff GW RMcN and CP
@jimijamesjowitt
@jimijamesjowitt 2 ай бұрын
Because they went after an easy target with no alibi instead of investigation like real cops should do. How about explain how he is capable of disappearing the bodies never to be seen again and not one shred of dna evidence? Yeah right. Cops are to blame for this case going UNSLOVED and for his false incarceration. Brings every conviction in the country into question.
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
If the mystery man arrived that early, before sunset, then why did no skipper see the ketch
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
​@jimijamesjowitt there was dna lol
@jimijamesjowitt
@jimijamesjowitt 2 ай бұрын
​@@stumpy2120 Where? As so far they been saying all these evidences they have and none are valid. Hence why we are talking about it.
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
​@@jimijamesjowitt olivias hair was found on his boat
@jaybill392
@jaybill392 2 ай бұрын
Wishart has forgotten the bullets planted by the police on Authur Allan Thomas, BUT they "DIDN'T" plant "BLOND HAIRS" on Watson's Boat.................YEAH RIGHT
@Goodiesfanful
@Goodiesfanful 2 ай бұрын
And Wishart himself wrote a book on the Arthur Allan Thomas case, where he claims the axle and axle stubs were planted as well as the cartridge case, by Detective Johnson, a man he says was known in the force as "The Fitter" for planting evidence. But Wishart goes really wild with his speculations in the book. He theorises Johnson himself killed the Crewes and even raped Jeannette before killing her although there was no evidence of rape. So I take his book on the Scott Watson case, "Elementary", where he takes the view that Watson is guilty, with a huge pinch of salt.
@utubermax
@utubermax Ай бұрын
Yeah, but they weren't on the boat, they were on the blanket that was taken from the boat by the Police, who also searched Olivia's room and took hairs from her hair brush and never bothered to count how many?
@seanodwyer4322
@seanodwyer4322 Ай бұрын
insane maori police in Hawkes bay use too beleive ahh was the demon covered in tattoo;s runnig around Hawkes Bay province attacking and robbing old layds off their Hand- bags- ladys ahh mean , when in reallity ahh am a skinny atshmatic white boy with zero tattoo's.- Victim Support.- Sean O'Dwyer.- number 136- 140 Hobson Street.- Auckland City. 1010.- New Zealand./ Aotearoa.''''
@Chopper650
@Chopper650 2 ай бұрын
if david bain can get a miscarriage of justice then scott watson should be a shoe in
@joebloggs2862
@joebloggs2862 2 ай бұрын
David Bain was guilty as the hill.
@woodmonster16
@woodmonster16 2 ай бұрын
I know a gent who was in the police force at the time of both incidents. His verdict “all the cops know David Bain killed at least one person that night, but he poses no threat to the public. Whether Scott Watson did it or not is questionable, but based on all the other cases he was caught up in (and his criminal record) having him locked up was a good thing”. Take of that as you will…
@marksvideochannel3592
@marksvideochannel3592 2 ай бұрын
@@woodmonster16 I disagree on the Bain thing but have heard another policeman say the same thing about Scott. I worry about the justice system and how the Bain and Watson trials went (not to mention the Tamihere case) but am not too sympathetic for Scott given his criminal past. In saying that, he should be out now for whatever crime he did or did;t do.
@Goodiesfanful
@Goodiesfanful 2 ай бұрын
@@marksvideochannel3592even people with criminal pasts can go down for crimes they didn’t commit.
@faodail3913
@faodail3913 2 ай бұрын
@@marksvideochannel3592 What criminal past? he only smoked a bit of weed and did some minot stuff, from what I read.
@jaybill392
@jaybill392 2 ай бұрын
Who pAID Wishart to say this?? Was Keith Hunter DELUDED? ...........YEAH RIGHT
@andrewbrownlie2764
@andrewbrownlie2764 2 ай бұрын
I struggle with this. There is a picture readily available if you search for it showing Watson partieing with the neigbours he was rafted up to prior to going to the lodge that night. Not as Ian has just described him at all though. He appears clean shaven and his hair appears short and tidy in that picture.
@maxlevett7474
@maxlevett7474 2 ай бұрын
Wishart will have seen cctv pics (elementary page 144) of Watson at Picton Supermarket Dec 31st just prior to departing for the party. He may hope that we have not seen those pics or have forgotten them, that clearly show Watson with short back & sides hair length. Hey Ian, Watson does not have a telescopic neck.
@utubermax
@utubermax 2 ай бұрын
You struggle because Watson was NOT the mystery man.
@marksvideochannel3592
@marksvideochannel3592 2 ай бұрын
Ive always believed he was not guilty of this crime BUT why would Ian WIshart lie or mudle his reading of the situation? WHats in it for him?
@cripchip_007
@cripchip_007 2 ай бұрын
That readily available photo online that you refer to is a good point. Because the clothes that Watson is seen wearing in that photo have never been seen since... I find that unbelievable how could they magically disappear... a bit like Ben and Olivia...
@maxlevett7474
@maxlevett7474 2 ай бұрын
@@cripchip_007 Contemplate "who" said the clothes were missing and why they might do that. What is in it for them? Watsons home was his yacht, his yacht was his home, that was seized while he was voluntarily helping police with their conundrum.
@grantsutherland6798
@grantsutherland6798 2 ай бұрын
I was told by a CIB Officer at the time that this prosecution, in his opinion, was so shallow on evidence that the CCS should never have brought the case to trial. Wishart you are a disgrace
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
He was found guilty and the verdict has survived countless attempts at reversal Seems like bringing it to trial was a good idea, seems like the evidence was strong enough to stand up to 25 years of intense scrutiny
@grantsutherland6798
@grantsutherland6798 2 ай бұрын
@@stumpy2120 your opinion, but as we all know, the law is an ass at times
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
@grantsutherland6798 the judiciary is flawed because humans are flawed. It got ut right in this case though, no question
@grantsutherland6798
@grantsutherland6798 2 ай бұрын
@@stumpy2120 your opinion. The question is a legal one however. The manner in which the evidence was collated and presented is being questioned here
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
@grantsutherland6798 I'm aware of the purported issues with the evidence. They are overstated, and the testimony at trial is understated
@kevinpalmer5620
@kevinpalmer5620 2 ай бұрын
Bad conviction memories of Arthur Thomas bad policing then suggest the same
@rocky6180
@rocky6180 2 ай бұрын
Crookard coppers
@pgreen8531
@pgreen8531 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely right and disgusting behavior from rob pope the man who ignored evidence and ran a biast criminal case against an innocent man
@rhondaratsey4151
@rhondaratsey4151 2 ай бұрын
Let him go, he didn't do it. They got very good descriptions of the ketch that Ben and Olivia climbed aboard and then they fingered Watson in an incomplete photo-montage, but one look at his boat should have disqualified him from any further involvement in the inquiry. Instead they altered his boat to fit. If you take a boat, remove half of it's rig, half of it's load waterline length and 80% of it's displacement then you've got a different boat, and if you've got a different boat then you've got a different skipper. if you have got a different skipper, then everything that was used to convict him was FALSE! I know the identity of the ketch, and so do the police...
@BarryNewman-ul6ui
@BarryNewman-ul6ui 2 ай бұрын
The so called "Mystery Ketch" only existed between the ears of Guy Wallace, the "Sightings " flowing on from His description was of a ketch called "Alliance".
@mikevanblommestein5726
@mikevanblommestein5726 2 ай бұрын
From memory , a few descriptions of the ketch all agreed that is had fancy rope work adorning it , an unusual thing for different people to come up with if they were mistaken in their sightings
@rhondaratsey4151
@rhondaratsey4151 2 ай бұрын
Anti-chaffing gear called "baggywrinkle"A real marker....
@BarryNewman-ul6ui
@BarryNewman-ul6ui 2 ай бұрын
Witness statement Jan 1st said Watsons boat had ropes on the top and on the sides of the cabin, this puts to rest (one would hope) your rope theory as separating Watsons Blade from a Ketch, besides of that into the equation comes the proven fact that this so called "Mystery Ketch" never existed outside of the space between the ears of Guy Wallace, proven beyond a shadow of doubt is that Ben and Olivia stepped with ease onto the deck of a "boat" off the Niad, if this "boat" was a Ketch they would have needed a small step ladder to overcome the height a Ketch would present, so without the need to possess the IQ level of Einstein one could clearly see that they did not board a Ketch and that the boat they did board was Watsons Blade that was proven to be rafted up alongside other boats.
@milleescott2423
@milleescott2423 Ай бұрын
So all the people that saw the ketch are wrong and you’re right?? There were so many sightings of it and when they called it in to the police hotline they were dismissed. These witnesses weren’t idiots and the ketch also had a young couple on board that fitted the description of B & O. There was more than one person that witnessed this and their sightings of the pair were simaliar. The ketch had many distinctive qualities that al the witnesses described the same. Do a bit more research and keep an open mind
@sammanu5894
@sammanu5894 2 ай бұрын
Ian Wishart states that he changed his mind on Scott Watson’s guilt after he read the police file. He then states after reading the police file he saw this “evolution” of witness statements that described the mystery man as a person with a couple of days facial growth and wavy long hair. Hasn’t Ian Wishart just confirmed Scott Watson’s innocence? Is he not aware that Scott Watson's photo of being clean shaven (no facial stubble) and having a short crew cut was taken on the evening of 1 January? Ian used to be considered a professional investigator, but now he sounds worse than an amateur.
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
The photo you are referring to shows scott has a few days stubble and doesn't clearly show how long his hair is People who knew scott described him as unshaved with wavy hair that nighg
@KerryGrass
@KerryGrass 2 ай бұрын
@@stumpy2120 I believe you are referring to what Ian Wishart said which is quite different to the evidence presented in court. This included a photo taken on the evening of NY celebrations. Scott Watson is shown to have no facial growth (mystery man had signficant facial growth). Scott Watson is shown to have a short crew haircut (mystery man had long scraggly hair). Ian Wishart also admits that police did not enter evidence that Scott had scraggly hair on the evening of NY celebrations. He should not have believed everything he read! Best evidence is photographic - not a 'possible' witness statement that was never entered as evidence.
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
@@KerryGrass take another look at that photo, even with the flash and crappy camera quality, scott clearly hasnt shaved in a while (especially visible in areas not blown out by the flash, like above his lip and under his chin) the length of the back of his hair is not visible in the photo
@pete401
@pete401 2 ай бұрын
Kerry you’re another that hasn’t listened to the interview obviously.
@utubermax
@utubermax 2 ай бұрын
@@stumpy2120 Again - bollocks!
@squashum778
@squashum778 2 ай бұрын
What about the photo of him on the night with a whole lot of other people , clearly shortish hair and clean shaven.
@cripchip_007
@cripchip_007 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. So can you explain where the clothes that Watson was wearing on New Year’s Eve are? Because they have not been seen since. But, as you say, Watson was seen in photographs wearing his favourite clothes, but there hasn’t been any explanation from him about how these clothes mysteriously disappeared.
@BarryNewman-ul6ui
@BarryNewman-ul6ui 2 ай бұрын
Simply because the photo of Scott Watson depicted with shortish hair and clean shaven was not the so called "Mystery Man", two completely different people that became just one off the unidentified "Mystery Man" wrongly thought to be Scott Watson, one of the identikit sketches has depicted Scott Watson's facial features as near to identical except for the hair which is where this hair length has been off the "Mystery Man", put the shorter hair on the identikit sketch and You have an identical portrait of Scott Watson.
@utubermax
@utubermax Ай бұрын
@@cripchip_007 Maybe he's not been asked?
@kevinansley7353
@kevinansley7353 2 ай бұрын
Another politicaly motivated verdict?
@willsmcmurray7070
@willsmcmurray7070 2 ай бұрын
It's funny the people who were managing the lodge and were there that night has never been interviewed by by journalists
@zweed69
@zweed69 Ай бұрын
I thought it funny that guy wallace wasnt in court to identify Watson personally, considering he was the last person to see those kids alive, and the only person to see who he dropped them off with. Then I found out they were trying to fix him up first, so he literally changed his story to corroborate with the police from fear of getting stitched up. how crazy is that
@jasonedwardledburynewzeala9897
@jasonedwardledburynewzeala9897 Ай бұрын
​@@zweed69crazy but true
@thetamihana2561
@thetamihana2561 2 ай бұрын
Saw Watson sailing at high speed is quality stuff Ian. He painted the boat blue like the mystery ketch - very sneaky.
@Winstonsmithsalias
@Winstonsmithsalias 2 ай бұрын
Watson was guilty of being drunk and obnoxiously trying his luck with the girls in the bar. People in the bar were telling him to go away. Somebody commented to me... why would the couple go back to that guys boat??? Very unlikely!!
@jimijamesjowitt
@jimijamesjowitt 2 ай бұрын
Boat taxi guy last person seen with them also points finger at an unliked person. Obvious suspect.
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
For the same reason they went onto a yacht with a drunken weirdo from the taxi
@chrismiles8297
@chrismiles8297 2 ай бұрын
Guy Wallace always maintained that he dropped them off a at a double masted sloop and not a single masted ketch. Guy Wallace also stated that had the Police not arrested Scott Watson then it would have been him.
@ctbusinesssolutions
@ctbusinesssolutions 2 ай бұрын
@@chrismiles8297 A Ketch has 2 masts, Sloops have 1
@SMD2308
@SMD2308 2 ай бұрын
Also Ben was a very fit and strong young man; Scott was smaller, and by all accounts very drunk and wobbly by the end of celebrating NYE. I always doubted he could overcome two fit young adults. Maybe, but it seemed unlikely.
@djmorry8748
@djmorry8748 Күн бұрын
I remember thinking at the time, if it were me being fitted up i would be yelling " ive done nothing wrong, or i'm not guilty " every time i saw a TV camera or crowd of people! I only remember him very quiet!
@dawsondoorshansen3241
@dawsondoorshansen3241 23 сағат бұрын
Lee Harvey Oswald never yelled out he was innocent either. Maybe SW had faith in the system....
@Goodiesfanful
@Goodiesfanful 2 ай бұрын
The evidence against Scott Watson was always thin and questionable, and grows even more dubious, yet he was convicted and remains so.
@rhondaratsey4151
@rhondaratsey4151 2 ай бұрын
I repeat my last sentence.... I know the identity of the ketch, and so do the police....
@user-xr7vo7zz8r
@user-xr7vo7zz8r 2 ай бұрын
and what it was doing ..... again .... ummm ... what was popes position before murders happened .. pope was a ladder climber . no solve .. end of top job dream .. any easy target will do ,, got love the media here too ..
@utubermax
@utubermax Ай бұрын
Are you prepared to disclose its name?
@rhondaratsey4151
@rhondaratsey4151 Ай бұрын
Sorry I took so long to reply. I had to track down my witness. He doesn't use any social media... He is in the process of tracking down some photographs he took in Jan '98. When He's ready he'll come forward. I quote him... " I know what I saw. I don't want to argue the toss with any armchair admirals, nor do I want to hear from diploma-bearing graduates of the Hutton school of evidence gathering!"
@utubermax
@utubermax Ай бұрын
@@rhondaratsey4151 thanks for the update. I'm certainly not from the 'Hutton school' that appears also has been present here, but if he has a photo it would be great to corroborate that with other witnesses (two, I know) that believe they saw that ketch elsewhere. Please do keep in touch.
@BarryNewman-ul6ui
@BarryNewman-ul6ui Ай бұрын
Oh ! here we go again down this well worn road of a "Mystery Ketch" being involved in the disappearance of Ben and Olivia, I am beginning to think that mental health issues are playing a part here as in the face of undisputed proof that it didn't exist there are those that think it did, I think they believe in the supernatural where a completely false verbal description and a sketch by Guy Wallace can somehow produce a full blown 40 foot Ketch. I have not had any experience in mental health but will Endeavour to point out to the believers that Guy Wallace would not be able to do this and the Ketch able to be sighted was a drawing only, I see now that a photo has been offered and the supplier of same named as a witness will dig this out and have it available "when He's ready", strangely He appears to want no contact with anyone after doing this ! So I say to those waiting on this photo to expect the sketch by Guy Wallace as it is as close as You will get to a somewhat warped reality and very loosely genuine in depiction and that any other photo showing a Ketch in physical form would have absolutely no relevance at all. My bet would be this photo will be a long time coming if at all, in fact I dont think You will ever see it, time will tell.
@XXXX-yc6wv
@XXXX-yc6wv 2 ай бұрын
I recall feeling something was very off about this case at the time. Never was able to put a finger on exactly what or why, but it was definitely a very unusual case as the investigation and subsequent prosecution and imprisonment of Watson unfolded over time. Much like the Peter Ellis case it had all the hallmarks of a very tainted investigation. I actually met the chief investigating officer on the Ellis case some years after it, and the things he told me about police conduct in that case were absolutely appalling, not least of which was said officer began a relationship with one of the complainant mothers during the investigation.
@brad4809
@brad4809 25 күн бұрын
I just watched the Mystery Ketch videos and I am blown away at the continual failures in this case. The police involved were blind or involved, there is no other excuse. I hope Watson gets out and gets an apology and a massive payout from the police. Those poor kids, they were let down in the worst way.
@ginger6597
@ginger6597 2 ай бұрын
I believe Watson is innocent.
@jimijamesjowitt
@jimijamesjowitt 2 ай бұрын
Even if he is guilty he was convicted on false evidence and should be a witness rather than a suspect. He might actually have evidence that leads to the killers or accident which disappeared the couple. For all we know they are still alive or died in a south american jungle. They haven't even proven they are dead yet.
@flyingkiwicjk
@flyingkiwicjk 2 ай бұрын
Really??? How stupid are you???
@serenasmith26
@serenasmith26 2 ай бұрын
Really? Did you listen to the video?
@serenasmith26
@serenasmith26 2 ай бұрын
@@jimijamesjowitt So what? Mistakes doesn't mean he is innocent.
@mrjohnson1701
@mrjohnson1701 2 ай бұрын
Because he is 👍🏼
@davidjones4312
@davidjones4312 2 ай бұрын
Rob Pope, a high flying, high profile police officer, should have his investigation scrutinised. As we all know, high flying police officers will sometimes do anything to get a result and enhance their careers in so doing.
@marksmale827
@marksmale827 12 күн бұрын
How did Scott Watson overpower and murder two fit young people on his boat off Furneaux Lodge when it was tied up with another pair of boats with minimal privacy of sound and movement?
@rodneysteele2627
@rodneysteele2627 2 ай бұрын
And from memory the actual guy and his yacht was intercepted by the australian coast guard. The yacht was loaded with drugs The NZ police tried to get access to him the aussie cops said NO
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
The lonebird was not in hge inlet that night It's a myth
@rodneysteele2627
@rodneysteele2627 2 ай бұрын
I also remember that the south American who did this crime his boat was identified by the ferry skipper And the last entry in his log was new year when the two went missing and it was clearly identified as in the Marlborough harbour area. This was pure lazyness by a police officer who just didn't give a shit took the first guy he didn't like the look of and charged him it was criminal Scott Watson needs to be released and compensated
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
@@rodneysteele2627 you have 100% fabricated this story
@sammanu5894
@sammanu5894 2 ай бұрын
Can you share more on Lonebird. I am aware the ketch Wallace described was an antiquated ketch with brass round port holes and old style roping for the masts. This was identical to the ketch known as Lonebird which you know was used in Cocaine smuggling between Australia and NZ - involving Colombians. The owner Sir Thomas Graham Fry was sentenced by the Australian authorities in 2000. The Lonebird then mysteriously sunk in the Gisborne wharf harbour area. How certain are you that log book records exist to show the Lonebird was in Marlborough at time Ben and Olivia went missing? I am very interested on this aspect as I have not heard about Lonebird's logbook previously. Who was the ferry skipper that saw it?
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
@sammanu5894 google lonebird and ask yourself if you would notice such a beautiful boat tied along yours. If you think its impossible that you wouldn't notice, that's all the proof you need that it wasnt there. None if the skippers saw it, and the boat the kids boarded was tied to at least two other boats
@robertspinks9570
@robertspinks9570 2 ай бұрын
The cut in the evidence bag and then the hairs are found on the blanket after a second examination come on ? and if Ian wishart is putting his 2 cents in well it smells alright.
@user-vg2ek3wo8z
@user-vg2ek3wo8z 2 ай бұрын
Another lot of taxpayers money spent of crap
@jimbennett7602
@jimbennett7602 4 күн бұрын
isn't there's a picture of watson taken at furneaux where he's clean shaven with short hair ?
@jackiejones690
@jackiejones690 Ай бұрын
Watch 'the mystery ketch' and the maritime research ....a real eye opener
@stollingrone
@stollingrone 15 күн бұрын
If Watson didn't do it, who did? Watson is guilty.
@bosshogg1915
@bosshogg1915 4 күн бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rOBkpathqdvJYoE.html
@Adam-im3uz
@Adam-im3uz 2 ай бұрын
What is wrong with this guys voice ?
@bosshogg1915
@bosshogg1915 4 күн бұрын
It is lying.
@michellej7539
@michellej7539 7 күн бұрын
Scott Watson is INNOCENT!
@user-zi3st5jh6v
@user-zi3st5jh6v 2 ай бұрын
Why have this interview is it to prejudice SW's appeal. What I have always wondered is why the Police especially Rob Pope did not bother looking for the victims instead concentrated all their efforts on SW. Witnesses had told of seeing this unusal 2 mastered boat with a female on board and they never followed up letting it make its get away. If they had intercepted it before leaving NZ shores B and O may have still been here today and surely this was the most important aspect of this case. If it was indeed the correct boat in so doing they would have had their perpetrator as well if not they could then have concentrated on looking elsewhere. Once again the police show themselves as inept at detective work resorting to criminal actions to close a case.
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
Police did look for the victims. Police did investigate ketches. Police boarded/eliminated over 400 ketches across nz, even going as far as sending officers to fiji to investigate a ketch
@user-xr7vo7zz8r
@user-xr7vo7zz8r 2 ай бұрын
@@stumpy2120 absolute BS
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
@user-xr7vo7zz8r it's a matter of public record, they sent police as far as fiji to interview ketch skippers
@user-xr7vo7zz8r
@user-xr7vo7zz8r 2 ай бұрын
@@stumpy2120 bull shit
@user-xr7vo7zz8r
@user-xr7vo7zz8r 2 ай бұрын
@@stumpy2120 from fitst week they dismissed ketch idea totally .. cfind the records of overseas interviews .. ya cant cause none happened .. are you actually that crook pope ?
@KerryGrass
@KerryGrass 2 ай бұрын
Wishart should have been able to identify that it is easy for someone to describe an event of being a boat builder but harder to try and grow facial and lengthy head hair within 24 hours. Ian Wishart should concede he has ignored basic evidence and that it is impossible for Scott Watson to have been the mystery man. The case is proven as factual evidence that Scott Watson is innocent and has no connection to being the offender, aka 'the Mystery Man'.
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
Scott fit the descriptions if tge mystery man. Same height. Same age. Same build. Same tattoos. Same skin colour. Same hair colour. Same amount of stubble. Similar hair. Saying the same things. Acting the same way. His boat was rafted where they were dropped off. End of discussion
@KerryGrass
@KerryGrass 2 ай бұрын
@@stumpy2120 Yes correct. People were describing Scott Watson being present at Furneaux Lodge. This has never been in dispute. However the 'mystery man' was seated at the bar drinking bourbon and coke and had a large wad of cash on him. This 'mystery man' is the same person that was in the taxi with Wallace, Ben and Olivia. The mystery man at the bar and the mystery man in the taxi are confirmed by Wallace as being one of the same. Wallace also describes, as did other witnesses (Rox McNeilly who was serving the mystery man at the bar) that the Mystery Man had scraggly long hair and significant facial growth. Facts always speak louder than opinion.
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
@KerryGrass wallce described him with two days growth and wavy hair that didn't cover his ears
@KerryGrass
@KerryGrass 2 ай бұрын
@@stumpy2120 Yes. Wallace is describing the mystery man. But in case you have lost yourself in the facts of the case, Scott Watson on NY Eve at that time was clean shaven and had a very short haircut. At least that was the evidence presented in Court I am not sure why Ian Wishart is now presenting "new" evidence which he concedes police never admitted to court. I think the police have trumped Wishart and it is sad to see such a good investigator loose the basic skills of basic investigation.
@utubermax
@utubermax Ай бұрын
@@stumpy2120 Bullshit, yet again.
@Goodiesfanful
@Goodiesfanful 2 ай бұрын
I’m worried. So far the Defence sounds like it’s going over old ground that has already failed Scott Watson several times already, including at the trial itself. They really need to have something new or dynamite. Like just who is the mystery man and what was that ketch?
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
Youre right. They are going over questions already raised at trial. The media reports that they are only hoing to discuss two issues this week: the identificantion which presented nothing new, and the hair, which so far hasn't presented anything new
@utubermax
@utubermax Ай бұрын
I fear you fail to understand the legal process. They can only challenge the existing, not revist the whole trial process
@Goodiesfanful
@Goodiesfanful Ай бұрын
@@utubermax trouble is, they’ve challenged it several times already and failed. Something new or really hot is needed to challenge it. Well, I wonder how long it will take before the Supreme Court responds? It takes a minimum of three months, but it can take longer. The outcome of the Peter Ellis appeal took a whole year.
@utubermax
@utubermax Ай бұрын
@@Goodiesfanful Yes. The law can be an Ass.
@cripchip_007
@cripchip_007 2 ай бұрын
Some of you keep banging on about the so-called mystery man and mystery ketch. What about the clothes that Watson was wearing seen photographed in on New year's Eve. Those clothes have never been seen since, how do you explain that?! And, Honestly some of you people, I don't get why you believe Guy Wallace? Just because Guy Wallace said he saw something doesn’t mean it’s true; it’s just his opinion. I mean, where is his evidence to prove it was a ketch? He has been so unreliable with his statements. Why would you believe everything he says is true? Not sure if you’re up to speed on why he took his own life? He was about to be exposed on charges of a sexual nature with a young female. As for witnesses, based on his character, he is very unreliable, and I don’t know why so many people take his word and trust it as true.
@sammanu5894
@sammanu5894 2 ай бұрын
Was the Lonebird ketch every ruled out by the NZ Police in their investigation. This ketch belonged to a well known cocaine trafficker and was an identical of what Wallace described with brass round port holes and the old fashioned ropes. The owner was arrested by Australian authorities in early 2000. This was about 2 years after Ben and Olivia going missing but the boat had been under surveillance for Cocaine smuggling prior to the arrest. Coincidentally the Lonebird sunk under mysterious circumstances in Gisborne in the same year - 2000. Prior to the arrest for Cocaine smuggling, there was surveillance on the owner of the Ketch by Australian and international police forces. Does anyone know if police ruled this ketch out as perhaps being at Furneaux at the time? The owner was "Sir Thomas Graham Fry". It is possible the NZ police investigation for Ben and Olivia was interfering with an international drug operation and hence why they Marlborough police investigators were back peddling to try and confirm to the public that a ketch of that description is not sought after? Just a thought.
@sammanu5894
@sammanu5894 2 ай бұрын
Evidently - although police did not offer evidence of it - the blue denim shirt that Watson was wearing was seized by police during one of their searches but then police either deliberately or unintentionally 'lost' it.
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
​@@sammanu5894not true
@cripchip_007
@cripchip_007 2 ай бұрын
@@sammanu5894 That's a very convenient coincidence isn't it - the police lost it, the police did this, the police did that. You can't keep blaming the police for everything in this case. They differently didn't start this, that's for sure...
@utubermax
@utubermax Ай бұрын
@@sammanu5894 I think "stumpy" and "cripchip" are cops close to this case. They talk crap and their one-sided beliefs fail to past the 'sniff test.' They had their man and they will make it fit, come what may.
@henryholderness7230
@henryholderness7230 2 ай бұрын
Wishart is simply wrong
@thelyssamysterygw2439
@thelyssamysterygw2439 2 ай бұрын
Mike, bringing Ian Wishart onto your program to discuss Scott Watson is just a bad move, plain and simple. Wishart is incompetent.
@Goodiesfanful
@Goodiesfanful 2 ай бұрын
Wishart’s book “Elementary” has a photo of the boats present. The ketch is not in it, but that’s not to say it was not present at some point that night. Landlubber though I may be, I can tell that if it was there, it would have stuck out like a sore thumb - the only ketch present in all that lot, which were yachts and sloops. And there were other things to make it stand out, like the old-fashioned rope rigging and the brass portholes.
@zweed69
@zweed69 Ай бұрын
its in 'murder on the blade' by keith Hunter, the ketch Antares is a little out of the view of that picture
@user-te3jc3sl7r
@user-te3jc3sl7r 2 ай бұрын
If Scott Watson had nothing to do with that young couples disappearance and probable murder then who was?
@mAKETU13
@mAKETU13 2 ай бұрын
Govt Cover up
@dadcooks1347
@dadcooks1347 2 ай бұрын
Perhaps the owner of the ketch that multiple people saw that the police ignored
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
@dadcooks1347 nobe saw it there that night, its a red herring
@sammanu5894
@sammanu5894 2 ай бұрын
The Lonebird ketch fitted the description exactly how Wallace described. It was at that time under international surveillance by law enforcement and the owner Sir Thomas Graham Fry was arrested in 2000 in Australia for shipping 500kg of Cocaine to Sydney. Later that year (2000), the Lonebird ketch sunk whilst moored at Gisborne. Where there is smoke there is fire. It seems police may have intentionally overlooked the Lonebird as they did not wish to interfere with an international drug operation. The truth over time is always revealed ...
@utubermax
@utubermax Ай бұрын
Really???
@blairlloyd1483
@blairlloyd1483 2 ай бұрын
I remember it in 1998 I was 15 years old on my grandads boat up in marina. On 8w wing there was a twin mast ketch on our same wing the cops walked up the marina couple of times had a look and took some photos and left seemed to hard too have a look again
@perryanderson9103
@perryanderson9103 2 ай бұрын
I think guy wallace would know but hes passed away now he was the last person to see them alive
@ianrobinson4200
@ianrobinson4200 2 ай бұрын
Those last moments he saw them where he asked them if they were OK getting off and they said yeah and wished him a happy new year must have replayed back in his mind thousands of times over the years. Probably a lot of survivor's guilt with some of the people on the Tamarack as well, refusing to get off even though Olivia had paid for it
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
​@ianrobinson4200 I think wallace said that he felt the case essentially ruined his life. The guy did nothing wrong that night but spent the rest of his life followed around by this heinous crime and everyone's opinion of it. Say what you will about his actions during the investigation, but that's pretty rough
@utubermax
@utubermax Ай бұрын
@@stumpy2120 Is this to appease? Seems a little out of character and disingenuous?
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 Ай бұрын
@utubermax who wouldn't have empathy for Wallace? The case very clearly had a significant negative effect on his life and all he did was be nice enough to give stragglers a ride after his shift
@waterbourne9282
@waterbourne9282 2 ай бұрын
Another excellent interview by a thoughtful and enquiring mind. Appreciated.
@utubermax
@utubermax Ай бұрын
Really? I quite like Michael, but this was not one of his better efforts.
@michaeljohnbrown6367
@michaeljohnbrown6367 25 күн бұрын
The ketch is on land northern queenslandon an island used as accommodation go look
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
Wallace said the mystety ketch was rafted to two other boats. The crown called every single skipper that was there that night to testify. They all said they didnt see the ketch, and it wasnt tied to their boat. Would you notice a large boat tied alongside yours?
@KerryGrass
@KerryGrass 2 ай бұрын
If you are going to give opinion, you should first read the facts. Given all your mis-statements, you would have made a good detective for this homicide investigation. I hope you have a sense of humour. However, to correct you - the evidence is Scott Watson's boat was rafted to boats who reported Watson coming home on his own. One of the skippers of the rafted boats spoke to Watson before Watson went onto his own boat. The ketch was not rafted to other boats. It was anchored beyond the marina. If you make statements relevant to an important aspect of justice, can you please try to at least do basic research. Your opinion is not valued unless you can substantiate your claims. Read the Mike Kallaugher book called or watch the documentary by film maker Keith Hunter. These men committed time to find the truth so hold your tongue if you cannot speak it.
@stephen8200
@stephen8200 2 ай бұрын
Also the discription of the ketch all these people saw seems to match the scow Alliance that was moored out in the bay also seen the next day sailing along at the same time as the ' ketch' .
@utubermax
@utubermax 2 ай бұрын
Watson's boat was rafted up, not the ketch. Get your facts right.
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
@@utubermax wallace testifed the ketch was rafted to two otherr boats
@cripchip_007
@cripchip_007 2 ай бұрын
​@@utubermax Just because Guy Wallace said he saw something doesn’t mean it’s true; it’s just his opinion. I mean, where is his evidence to prove it was a ketch? He has been so unreliable with his statements. Why would you believe everything he says is true? Not sure if you’re up to speed on why he took his own life? He was about to be exposed on charges of a sexual nature with a young female. As for witnesses, based on his character, he is very unreliable, and I don’t know why so many people take his word and trust it as true.
@cperera910
@cperera910 2 ай бұрын
Wishart is no David Yallop not by a long shot. May be wannabee one.
@grantsutherland6798
@grantsutherland6798 2 ай бұрын
Why would we listen to a so-called investigative journalist who has made a dog's dinner of almost every investigation he has ever been involved with? He goes to his publisher for $$$$
@pete401
@pete401 2 ай бұрын
I’m guessing you never listened to the interview then. It’s very convincing that he’s guilty.
@grantsutherland6798
@grantsutherland6798 2 ай бұрын
@@pete401 only if you believe Wishart's account. His track record in solving cases or reporting the facts, more to the point, is abysmal
@SMD2308
@SMD2308 2 ай бұрын
@@pete401 it is all based on people’s hearsay.
@BarryNewman-ul6ui
@BarryNewman-ul6ui 2 ай бұрын
Ian Wishart compiled previously unknown facts that were buried deep in Police files all supported by witness statements which surfaced in 2018, these were relayed into the public arena by Ian and do not consist of any contrived reporting of His personal views, it is My strong contention that Ian Wishart displayed investigative reporting at it's best.
@grantsutherland6798
@grantsutherland6798 2 ай бұрын
@@BarryNewman-ul6ui at worst he has published material that has not been properly researched. To this day people like Arthur Allan Thomas and Scott Watson are guilty in many peoples' eyes because of his unprofessional work
@BarryNewman-ul6ui
@BarryNewman-ul6ui Ай бұрын
Perhaps if You created a scenario where this could have happened instead of where it could not have then Your comment would have some benefit, as it stands this person was on board at 10am Jan 1st so without overworking the brain I have figured He boarded before this, We know Watson departed the bay at 4am (approx) and has not mentioned this man on His boat, this man has also not come forward so by these omissions there has to be a reason behind it, there has to be a reason why this man was painting the boat, He is an accessory after the fact at 10am and My personal view is He was on board when Ben and Olivia arrived which would make Him a co-offender, I stress this to be My personal view and not based on proven fact. Scott Watson was in the company of a man on shore for a period of time but unknown for how long and unnamed but carries a detailed description.
@andysaunders3708
@andysaunders3708 6 күн бұрын
BENT.
@270winchester3
@270winchester3 2 ай бұрын
If zapper was threatened why would he supply an alibi, he would have been better of with Watson in jail for life
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
He was scared of Scott. Scott was not in custody at that time
@franbeullensandsimonschmid1687
@franbeullensandsimonschmid1687 Ай бұрын
​@@stumpy2120Bull crap Ian, Zapper and co were manipulated by cops due to 100s of dope plants found on their land, charges were downgraded from supply to cultivation. In exchange for modifying the time Scott arrived in Erie Bay. Scared of Scott? LOL.
@user-qt9sz5kv7k
@user-qt9sz5kv7k 2 ай бұрын
Ian hasn't got a clue. He never had a clue.
@flyingkiwicjk
@flyingkiwicjk 2 ай бұрын
No doubt, he is guilty.
@utubermax
@utubermax Ай бұрын
I do hope that you never do jury service.
@maxlevett7474
@maxlevett7474 2 ай бұрын
Ben & Olivia: What Really Happened: Jayson Rhodes & Ian Wishart page 79 The jeans Watson had been wearing earlier, cut off at the knee, had been replaced by long dark jeans, and a light blue denim shirt with a white t-shirt underneath. Also the stubble that had been visible earlier that afternoon had gone, presumably the result of Watson having a shave. That would explain why Watson appeared clean shaven in the 9:30 pm Mina Cornelia photo. During his testimony in court, Mahoney agreed that the photo showed Watson clean shaven and tidily dressed
@utubermax
@utubermax Ай бұрын
So what are you saying?
@franbeullensandsimonschmid1687
@franbeullensandsimonschmid1687 Ай бұрын
Ian's own words against him. Scott's brother saying that he needed a shave and a haircut THREE DAYS after new years? Shock horror, Ian it's the smoking gun, NOT. God you're pathetic. Absolutely illogical.
@grantsutherland6798
@grantsutherland6798 2 ай бұрын
Wishart has caused more problems in NZ by his interferences in criminal-justice matters than any other journalist. He should be ashamed of himself
@scipioafricanus4328
@scipioafricanus4328 2 ай бұрын
Scott Watson is guilty as sin. There was no mystery Ketch. His sloop was rafted up nose to tail with another with give the appearance of it being a ketch when viewed side on, especially at night.
@mAKETU13
@mAKETU13 2 ай бұрын
That's just your opinion not factual at all
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
​@@mAKETU13 Wallace said the ketch was rafted to two other boats
@mAKETU13
@mAKETU13 2 ай бұрын
​@stumpy2120 Bro he's getting out regardless of who said what... Wallace is dead. No credibility
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
​@tEEmAKETU the point is he is guilty.
@mAKETU13
@mAKETU13 2 ай бұрын
@@stumpy2120 you have no evidence to back your opinion as being a fact.
@mAKETU13
@mAKETU13 2 ай бұрын
You tell Lies Ian.
@kathleenlewis1954
@kathleenlewis1954 2 ай бұрын
Doggie
@honeybadger7002
@honeybadger7002 2 ай бұрын
Heed my warning team!! Like most folks, I thought Scott Watson was innocent! Then I became a prison guard for about 10 years..... So Unlike some folks that are "Experts " on Watson! I have actual first hand experience with dealing with him, I'm not some ex-crim's "mate of a mates, cousins twice removed, Watson worshipping " person. For the first 2 years of dealing with him.......I still thought he was innocent!! However, After a few incidents happened in the wing he was housed, I came to realise very scarily..... he's very evil!! And I came to believe he's guilty as sin!! Scott Watson is very intelligent and is an absolute MASTER MANIPULATOR!!! And deep under that friendly facade, there is a man as close to the devil as I've ever come across!! ( and I've hunted armed men that guttered pregnant ladies for sport!). Hardened gang enforcers wouldn't cell up with him!! "Old school" Head hunters and Highway 61's have said he's the only man that scares them!! Incidences of Prisoners commiting Suicide or attempting too!! The Last person they were seen or heard talking too..... Scott Watson!!! Theres "rumours" (just rumours) that other people have gone missing in other places where Scott Watson just happened to be sailing at the time! His father appears to be a nice old man, but from Scott's arrest, he's been in everyone's ear, talking to them, turning their beliefs on what they saw or know! That's how the town slowly turned their opinions on what happened! I'd go as far to say... IF I'm wrong! And no ones perfect and gets it right %100..... and Watson is in fact innocent..... he should stay in prison till his death.... cause he's just pure pure Evil!!
@utubermax
@utubermax 2 ай бұрын
And after more than 24 years in the slammer, how would you feel and react if you were not guilty? He clearly was no saint, but you are talking crap.
@ZaneLike
@ZaneLike 2 ай бұрын
You sound like a fantasist
@pete401
@pete401 2 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you. I thought he was innocent until I heard this interview. Thanks for sharing. All the best.
@YEALANDS2024
@YEALANDS2024 2 ай бұрын
What friendly facard?
@stumpy2120
@stumpy2120 2 ай бұрын
​@@utubermaxhe's a clinically diagnosed psychopath bro
@BarryNewman-ul6ui
@BarryNewman-ul6ui 2 ай бұрын
If it can be accepted that Ben and Olivia were dropped off at a rafted up boat then this discounts any suggestion that it was a ketch as every boat that was rafted throughout the bay did not have a ketch amongst them, there simply was no ketch in any raft in that bay on the 31st of December. All boats were investigated and had Mum and Dad with their two kids on board, Grandfather His Son and Daughter in law and a couple of Grandchildren on another and so the list goes on to where this eliminates each boat from the inquiry, one boat that could not be eliminated and was in a raft was Watsons Blade, unlike all others it had a lone 26 year old male on board who discarded the clothes He wore on the night, lied about what clothes He was actually wearing, lied as to His movements on Jan 1st, lied as to what time He returned to His boat, lied about His departure time from the bay, got the caretaker at Erie Bay and His Kid's to lie saying He arrived there Jan 1st at 9.30am and stayed for 3 days when in fact He didn't go there at all on Jan 1st, there is more but hopefully this points out clearly that the "Mystery Ketch" does not feature in any way and that the only boat possible to have been involved was the "rafted" up Blade.
@utubermax
@utubermax Ай бұрын
Pray tell Barry, are you a cop? It sounds very much like it to me. SW was no saint and he clearly smoked pot and had a mate who grew the stuff. I can well imagine why he might have been a bit forgetful in the circumstances. But double murder - I don't think so. Way too much suggests he wasn't the one, but with a bit of past form and a need to have an early and easy resolution, it seems all too convenient.
@BarryNewman-ul6ui
@BarryNewman-ul6ui Ай бұрын
@@utubermax No I am not a Cop but appreciate You reply and sensibly worded concerns but cannot see where You state the evidence points to innocence, on the contrary I see everything pointing in the direction of guilt and just one example of this being a statement made by Watson "You'll never find the bodies" this can only suggest knowledge in My book, I believe You are also in My book just on a different page.
@utubermax
@utubermax Ай бұрын
@@BarryNewman-ul6ui Well, perhaps consider this. B&O wouldn't sleep on the Tamarack because it was overcrowded, but the would on the (little) Blade, without any discussion, noise or movement detected on the immediately neighbouring rafted up boat? How realistic is that? And SW was reputedly under the influence - it just doesn't make sense. And as for Olivia clawing at a hatch the typically locks from the inside, without making a cry for assistance - spare me please. No, when you put all the evidence together it doesn't add up, and it certainly is no where near compelling enough to make a sound conviction. And where do you get this fabrication that the ketch was rafted up?
@BarryNewman-ul6ui
@BarryNewman-ul6ui Ай бұрын
I have never suggested that the Ketch was rafted up, quite the opposite, there was no Ketch in any raft in the bay which destroys Your insistence that a Ketch was involved. As for taking up the offer of accommodation on "Little Blade" You find strange I would suggest that the specifications of Blades size would not have been relayed to Ben and Olivia prior to stepping aboard, as for no noise being heard You are assuming the crime took place while rafted up, the fact no noise was heard suggests that it was not, I offer pure speculation here deviating from known fact, there was only one bed available and that was Ben's at Punga Cove, mentioned by Ben to Watson and Watson offered to run them there ??? the crime scene/area shifts away from the raft of boats which I consider to be quite obvious. The scratches on the hatch cover simply didn't happen at the hand of Olivia and certainly appears to have been somewhat ridiculous to present this as evidence. One thing I will leave You with which noone has mentioned is did Scott Watson have an accomplice and did not act alone ?
@utubermax
@utubermax Ай бұрын
@@BarryNewman-ul6ui apologies, I miss-read you as others commenting here have also said the ketch was rafted up. Unfortunately, Wallace changed his story about the rafting to not beinmg rafted, but I don't think there was anything malicious in that just, as he said, he rembered better. So we are back to a lone boat which makes a great deal more sense from the practical reality of three people getting on Blade - two of them never having been on it before, and all moving about and getting settled (SW being reputedly being intoxicated) all with making a sound or rocking the boat (pun intended). And to now suggest that SW might have had an accomplice, I assume someone land based? And if no crime took place while rafted up, what were B&O doing the following morning when SW was unrafting and setting off? It gets more fanciful by the minute that they lay there in a deep slumber.
@superkiwistar
@superkiwistar 2 ай бұрын
the same loonies going on about thomas and bain being "innocent" are also going on about watson being "innocent". wrong. nothing shows any of these are innocent and there is plenty of evidence to show exactly the opposite. somebody does crimes - have some respect for justice for the victims - have confidence in those trained to solve crimes. wishart is 100% right. watson is where he belongs.
@reid6462
@reid6462 2 ай бұрын
Circumstantial nonsense Ian, come on any one in NZ is at risk.
@leehofmann2417
@leehofmann2417 2 ай бұрын
guilty as sin
@ctrun60
@ctrun60 2 ай бұрын
Read the book Trial by Trickery..Your more guilty than Scott Watson is..
@leehofmann2417
@leehofmann2417 2 ай бұрын
@@ctrun60 bullshit by crims
@Luke-pb9oz
@Luke-pb9oz 2 ай бұрын
Which piece of evidence convinced you he is guilty?
@utubermax
@utubermax 2 ай бұрын
Bollocks! Where's the proof?
@joelebloggsnz
@joelebloggsnz 2 ай бұрын
Agreed, I listened to the whole interview and Ian covered the questions the naysayers raise.
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