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Here's one legacy: Jack White used his fortune to invest in his record label, Third Man Records, in analog recording techniques, and vinyl production. He's a major player in the vinyl revival, which has changed the business model for a lot of artists and labels, and changed the way that people like me think about audio production and what kind of sounds we prefer.

“hipster dive bar music” is still to this day one of my favorite genres! The Strokes, Interpol, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, The White Stripes. I disagree about it’s cultural impact and influence, as I believe it inspired the next wave of indie rock, as well as the kids who were just picking up an instrument around that time and went on to form bands across all genres.

to me garage rock isn't dead it just evolved to indie rock. A lot of bands you meantioned like White Stripes, The Hives, The Strokes etc are now categorised as Indie Rock.

This scene is still very much alive in the UK. You can't forget the Arctic Monkeys (yes, you can consider them part of this category) and The Libertines. The latter especially, AKA "England's answer to The Strokes". One overlooked thing is the fact that all these bands were so diverse. Here's some off the top of my head. Bands like Bloc Party, Franz Ferdinand, Maximo Park, The Futureheads, and maybe even the Kaiser Chiefs had that "Angular" Post Punk Revival sound. The Cribs, The Paddingtons, The Others, Five O Clock Heroes, Twisted Wheel, Dustin's Bar Mitzvah, Dogs, and Eight Legs followed a stronger 1977' Punk Rock sound. And bands from this category can actually be labeled as "Pop Punk" at its' core. This was the scene that was primarily led by The Libertines. Might as well throw in Razorlight here as well. The Kooks, Blondelle, and One Night Only kept all the girls at bay. The Horrors, Black Wire, Selfish Cxnt, and Neil's Children led the darker Goth scene highly influenced by Joy Division or The Cure. Milburn, Little Man Tate, and the Harrisons showed that there was more to Sheffield than the Arctic Monkeys. The Courteeners, The Pigeon Detectives, The Rakes, and The Fratellis were practically the bounciest and catchiest of the bunch. Along with The Vaccines and Ripchord following strong Power Pop elements. The Enemy were singing about a more widespread suburban crisis. The View had no desire to get their Skag Skiffle out of Dundee Scotland. The Libertines, The Cribs, The Courteeners, The Kooks, The Vaccines, and The Horrors still fluctuate through radio and continue to carry a strong festival presence. And Hoggboy pretty much did it all before everyone else. This was all going on in the UK, and I probably missed a few crucial bands and events. I still maintain that this scene had much more substance than any Nu Metal or Pop Punk scene had to this day. (EDIT): These guys were also responsible for spawning every other Garage Rock Revival scene in europe. All being influenced by The Libertines or Arctic Monkeys in some way. France had the BB Brunes, Naast, Plastiscines, and Second Sex. Sweden had Mando Diao and Sugarplum Fairy (both of which are just as good as The Hives, and Mando Diao being one of the original spearheaders of the Indie Garage movement in europe). Germany had Kilians, Auletta and Bakkushan. Hungary had The Moog. And Italy had The Hacienda and Radio Days.

Here to say The Hives, The Strokes & The Vines and even the first two white stripes albums were truly great rock bands making great records. The Hives first three albums are EXTREMELY underrated. Any kid who likes punk rock should listen to the first Hives record ‘Barley Legal’ and tell me that shit doesn’t SLAP

Kind if strange to me that you didn't mention the fact that The Strokes continue to be relevant and make great music to this day.

Sorry but the point about no lasting impact? The Strokes and particularly "Is this it" are so unbelievably influential especially in the UK. Arctic Monkeys for one owe a lot to them.

I feel like Jack White is one of the few artists who transcended the genre and has had a successful solo career along with multiple successful side projects and established his own record company/pressing factory

This stuff is still popular amongst high schoolers that just picked up guitars. Going into my local record stores, I always see teenagers with shaggy hair and they come in looking for White Stripes records. Like you said, it’s a classic and fun sound and I think it will always have a place in the music industry.

As much as I agree with most of everything he talks about or his opinions. I do believe he’s 100% wrong on the white stripes, and how it made 0 impact. Not only did that revival give us jack white himself it also gave us the 1 song on planet earth everyone knows and chants at any sport event. “Seven nation army”.

Garage rock went underground in the 2010's with acts like Ty Segall, Osees, Black Lips, The Growlers, King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard, Frankie and the Witch Fingers and Allah-Las. Post-punk also went underground during the 2010's, new bands formed like Parquet Courts, Iceage, Fontaines D.C., Omni, Protomartyr and Preoccupations. Note: All of these bands release music on independent record labels.

The Hives are still the best band I’ve seen live. Their standard for live performance each and every time is just exceptional.

Bloc Party’s Silent Alarm is honestly one of the greatest first albums of all time imo, it was so good in fact that even their fans believe they’ve never lived up to it.

Interpol is still one of my favorite bands of all time. Turn On the Bright Lights is my second favorite album right after Dark Side of the Moon. Also, The Strokes’ newest album The New Abnormal is just as good as their first two, IMO. This genre as a whole still has a huge place in my heart.

Playing and touring in the early 2000’s in this era was awesome. Really amazing crowds and local scenes. We were a heavy psychedelic stooges style band and got to play with metal/punk/garage bands. Diverse shows and crowds were really fun.

The Black Keys is my favorite Garage Rock Revival band! They fit the stereotypes and yet still make awesome music

Yo dude I was legit surprised how positive you were about garage rock in this video, considering how you always talked down on "alternative" music. But still it feels like there's narative about this genre not being "people's music" and it's like stuff for critics and hipsters. However the cultural impact of revival is really huge. Take The Strokes for example. Not only they inspired tons of artists like Artic Monkeys, Killers and so on... they had their first grammy last year and the biggest pop star on earth as of now Billie Eilish said that their last album was her favourite release of 2020. So in my eyes that's kinda "influential".

A lot of these bands and songs I think of as mostly jock jams now, I hear “Wanna Be My Girl” at local hockey games, and “Seven Nation Army” played by pep bands all the time.

One aspect of the legacy of this stuff you didn't mention and I think might be a blind spot for you: I think those bands were a spark that ignited the vinyl revival. A lot of those bands emphasized their vinyl releases, which I think got a lot of their fans hooked on the format. Jack White in particular has been a big player with Third Man Records. It's always interesting to me when you talk about critics as being gate keepers. To me they are usually very much the opposite. It always seems to me they work very hard to get get behind stuff they like which takes talking a lot of listeners into giving it a chance. Instead of complaining stuff they like isn't popular they get out there and actually help get it across. They have a reputation for dissing popular stuff but I think they are generally more even handed with it than the average fan in their 20s and 30s tend to be with whatever is popular with teens. People really notice when something gets trashed, but the vast majority of publications overwhelmingly write more positive reviews than negative.

“Garage rock” is a misnomer. The great thing about that time is that many genres were being drawn upon, such as blues, post punk, new wave, 60s girl bands, etc etc. It was refreshing. For many of us, these bands were a gateway into older bands in a way that nu-metal and pop punk was not.

I think the guitar work of the strokes is incredibly unappreciated. The two guitarists have this fantastic musical relationship and I love their really interesting use of countermelody. The only other band that matches that aspect would be some of the John fruiscante / flea stuff in certain eras of the chilli peppers

FWIW, The White Stripes were also pretty blues-y. They may have had their garage rock album/songs but they absolutely transcended the fad phase of this genre. Disclaimer, I am a massive Jack White fan.

I wasn't really all that into most of those band, but I saw The Hives at a pretty small venue around the time they were really beginning to blow up and it's still one of the best shows I've ever been to. It was sweaty, people were packed like sardines and both the band and the audience were absolutely bursting with energy.

I think you could have touched on the most recent big wave of garage that got pretty popular along with some of the beach rock bands. Bands like FIDLAR, Beach Fossils, Cloud Nothings, Wavves, Jacuzzi Boys, Best Coast, Bass Drum of Death, Oh Sees.

As a dude from the UK, all the bands you've mentioned almost certainly came off the tails of 90s indie bands over here like Oasis, The Charlatans, Blur, Happy Mondays, Pulp, The Stone Roses, Primal Scream etc. I find it interesting comparing the US to the UK for these genres of music, because it's clear there are distinct differences. Certainly growing up through both eras it felt like indie/garage rock was massive from 90s to the mid 2000s.

You also have to look at the scene that The Strokes came in on: David Gray, Coldplay, Travis, Toploader. As the 90s eras of Grunge and Britpop came to an end the music scene was pretty bleak, beige and dull. The Strokes came in looking like they had been superimposed from another time or dimension. They just looked so cool, like they were the types who lived in a New York loft with penniless artists. For many of us it was like, pop music is cool again. For me in the UK the scene carried on longer than you mentioned, we had the Libertines, Razorlight, Arctic Monkeys, Kaiser Chiefs and a host of others that NME gleefully reported on week-by-week. Probably the end of the scene co-incides with the White Stripes splitting up in 2009, when you get the rise of the bearded men with banjos and bands with trumpet players: Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros, Fleet Foxes, Mumford & Sons, Old Crow Medicine Show, Iron & Wine, etc. A new scene with a new style was mainstream and garage rock ducked back under the surface. I'd say though that where emo, nu metal and pop-punk sort of died a death (where are Blink182, Limp Bizkit, Sum41, etc, now?) Garage Rock just carried on with a smaller market. The Strokes are still releasing albums, Jack White has a new album out, and in general, as long as there are bands wanting to make raw rock music with a lo-fi twist, garage rock will always be there.

Garage rock scene is alive and well, Osees, Ty Segall/his many side projects, Useless Eater etc. As for post-punk, it's never died since the release of Unknown Pleasures. Just because it's not mainstream doesn't mean it has no influence or broad appeal.

I was 12/13 when this genre was coming into its own, and honestly, it was a really good genre to have be popular for that fleeting moment of my adolescence. It's not like I throw the Vines on all the time, but I do still like all of these bands 20 years later

Garage Rock (shaped into Surf Punk) and Post-Punk are still well and alive - With all these bands like FIDLAR, Ty Segall, Bass Drum Of Death ... or IDLES, Fountaines D.C. and Shame.

Strangely enough, a lot of these bands are still headlining mainstream festivals. I mean you still see The Strokes or Jack White headlining Coachella or Lollapalooza. Interpol is huge in Europe. Other bands like Black Rebel Motorcycle Club too. They never "faded away" completely like a lot of other contemporaries in other genres

You can feel Finn’s disdain for the genre. But there is some objectively amazing songs. He makes some good points, it’s just obviously not his genre.

The garage rock revival lasted a bit longer in the UK. The Brit mag NME was on the Strokes hype train really early. It was super influential and gave rise to The Libertines, The Fratellis, The Kooks and of course Arctic Monkeys. All these bands were obsessed with the Strokes and out out good records in the late 2000s.

Go into any guitar store and you will hear the legacy of this genre: 7 Nation Army replaced Smoke on the Water as THE beginner guitar or bass riff.

I saw the Hives play in Leeds last week and they were excellent. Frontman is one of the best in the business.

I'm still super into a lot of the albums that came out in this era. Still love everything Jack White does, The Strokes early albums, The Hives, Bloc Party. And I think it the Indie Rock scene that was so big through the 2010s has a lot of it's roots here

I disagree with you Finn I feel someone like Jack White especially has a lot of influence on music especially guitarists

I personally was very pleasantly surprised when I discovered the Australian scene. So simple yet catchy AF songs. If anybody wants something new I definitely advise DZ Deathrays, Violent Soho, Dune Rats and others.

A better way to look at it is that none of these genres were killed, they ran their course. They circle back at future times, but things have got to keep moving to stay exciting and new.

The best garage/punk bands of that decade came after those initial popular bands... bands like the Black Lips, Jay Reatard, thee Oh Sees and other bands that had already been around like Hot Snakes and the Spits.

It's insane how just on another level entirely The Strokes is. While every other band mentioned here was "forgotten" and even the White Stripes didn't have that much of a lasting influence despite Jack White's fame and importance, The Strokes just had an enormous catalogue of modern rock classics to back them up. Even getting their much deserved grammy recently. The Strokes just have way too many great songs.

The scenes in movies where they ask Person 1 - "what are you listening to?" Person 2 - "The _____s. Listen to this song, it'll change your life" This shit always made me want to die.

Also I think the most underrated band of that era that never gets talked about but always had tracks playing on TV Shows was Black Rebel Motorcycle Club.

The Hives is still the best band of that era because they don't take themselves so seriously, but I love most of the bands of that period , here in Brazil a lot of these bands still have their audience, Franz Ferdinand fill some places each visit down here and still is a fun concert to watch

White Stripes are one of my favorite bands. They don't have a single bad album and they left on the highest of highest.

Haha, rad, love that you played "Have Love Will Travel" by the Sonics, one of my favorite garage rock singles. They were like the drunk messy version of popular bands, covering all their songs and doing the blitzed version of them. Very proto punk.

we count the white stripes as an influence, mainly because of Jack White being a champion of DIY recording and making do with what you got

It’s a shame Franz Ferdinand were forgotten about, for one thing they’re from my country, Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 and it’s always a big deal when a Scottish band gets as big as they were. Take Me Out is one of the anthems of my childhood

The Hives are fucking amazing! Their live shows are on fire every time. They never have a bad performance.

On Burnout 3, Takedown, the video game soundtrack included Sahara Hotnights, The Mooney Suzuki, and The Von Blondies. The soundtrack also had some post-punk, punk, pop punk, and emo. Everything blended it altogether and it was awesome!

I dig Finn and his videos, so don't come @ me, but I swear he says everything "isn't his thing" except for super obscure, northwest regional hardcore bands that were active in his friend's basements from '93-'96. Those bands get talked about like they invented modern music as we know it...oh, and Len because, why not.

I’d say there definitely was a little bit of an impact on radio rock in the 2010s that came from these bands, especially the white stripes. I remember in 2016 hearing heaps of messy garage rock duos that were very white stripes-esque getting pushed on the radio but kinda not making it anywhere mainstream cause they were simply too derivative. It seems like a lot of people tried to recreate that sound after it supposedly “died” simply just because it was a familiar and enjoyable sound to come back to, but just couldn’t do anything new with it which is why that revival of the revival never blew up. Also another thing that I won’t blame you for possibly not knowing/talking about is the UK’s equivalent of this movement which started with The Libertines. I find that side of the revival kinda charming cause of how they incorporated more old British punk influences into that garage rock sound. The UK press also claimed a name to describe people becoming tired of all these bands getting overexposed, especially as there were too many of them popping up and they called it “the indie landfill” lmao.

I will be very honest: this is probably one of your most objective videos, you absolutely did justice for this scene, even if far away from your own music culture. I completely remember every frame of how this scene overtook Nu Metal as the biggest thing, and as an angsty kid, oh boy I was so pissed. However after a few years as I entered college I actually started to gravitate so much to all these Indie bands with a retro feel. To this day I absolutely love this stuff, just such good songwriters

15:12: 100% true for me. "Fell In Love With A Girl" inspired me to pick up a guitar.

I kinda wish this movement didn't die. I loved the fresh sounding classic rock vibe this era had. I have so much nostalgia of playing NFS Carbon and Prostreet and hearing the 2000's Garage Rock and Indie songs in the soundtrack.

Most of the bands he mentioned still have way more influence on new rock bands than most of the grunge, rap metal, or anything that came out after 2005... I always feel like Punk Rock MBA tries to hard to apply rules and labels to certain genres and eras which ultimately just leads him to being off the mark and neglecting a whole bunch of stuff.

The Strokes & The White Stripes are some of the best to ever do it. Still getting a slow trickle of great output from The Strokes, & Jack White is a brilliant artist.

It's worth acknowledging how HUGE this type of music was in the UK and Ireland, and how many bands from the UK managed to make it big in this scene. Bands like Bloc Party, The Libertines and many others had global success, while pop punk, grunge & nu-metal were hugely America-centric (at least the bands themselves were).

The Hives actually got me into music. I wanted to hear different genres and different sounds. So, I really appreciate the music they made.

I'm from the UK and this stuff was HUGE here between early and mid-2000s. We had our own bands as well who borrowed as much from this scene as 80s indie and 90s Britpop. It was never my scene but hard to deny that the songs were catchy. It feels very dated and uncool now though

I vividly remember this era. My wife and I always ask each other, “how did it end so fast?”

This is a great video, but it’s very US-Centric, which I don’t blame you for: In the UK we had the whole [Landfill] Indie scene that lasted through to at least 2006 and was the UK equivalent of the US Emo movement. The UK had their own Strokes moment with Arctic Monkeys’ debut becoming the fastest selling album since Oasis, based purely off MySpace hype.

I'm glad you brought up the rockist thing. That's totally what I was in my twenties, except I was too rockist to get into a lot of those garage revival bands. It's a kind of a bogus mindset, really. It cares way too much about authenticy (whatever that means) and street cred. Good luck buying your first home on all that.

I think one important thing that is missed here is that this was part of the last gasp of music videos with MTV2 being massively popular. Interpol, for instance, went from Matador indie darling to being so popular Matador allowed the sign with (I think) Capitol so they could meet demand and then you saw that album at every Best Buy for years. I remember all my pop-punk fans were also into Interpol because Fuse and MTV2. When those channels faded in popularity, so did a lot of these bands. Didn't help that Interpol and The Strokes fell-off on their third albums (I know they are cult albums now but still never as beloved as their debut or sophomore releases).

Awesome video, as always. Lots of info, and very well explained reasoning coming from a fairly objective point of view. As someone who LOVES the post-punk and garage revival of the 2000's, you pretty much hit the nail on the head.

Interpol were the best band from that era imo. At the time it felt like I was listening to a modern Joy Division with some The Fall influences and I loved it. The 2000's was a great time for rock music in general, maybe the last era of fun rock music.

It was the hipsters killed the beast.

Man, your channel is great. Learning a lot with your videos.

Awesome video! I’ve always wondered where those early 2000s “The” bands fit into the paradigm. I always called it iPod commercial core, haha.

We need a "What Killed Post-grunge?" episode

Aww man that “Still Waiting” video is one of the greatest music videos of all time & that opening sketch has many one-liners that are still part of my everyday vernacular, so it made my day to see a clip of that here! “No I haven’t heard the new album-I’m sure it’s great though; all kinds of songs about skateboarding, and being dumped…”

Ironically enough, it was the garage rock era that helped introduce me to punk rock. It wasn’t all glossy & overproduced commercialism (at least that’s how it felt). The low fi, back to basics aesthetic & sense of nostalgia had me searching the internet for stuff that was similar. Which lead me to a little know internet station called Punk45, that would play everything from The Velvet Underground, Stooge’s, MC5 & Ramones, to Black Flag, Bad Brains, Dead Kennedys & Misfits, to Pixies, Sonic Youth, Minor Threat & Nirvana. Like it gave me the full scope of what “Punk” music was, & not just the stereotypical aspects of it.

I was a kid during this era and it's when I started getting into music. I really liked nu metal, pop punk, post-grunge, and these garage rock bands. I really appreciate the stripped down rock aesthetic, and a lot of these songs still slap ("Hate To Say I Told You So" is currently my ringtone lol). Even my dad, who didn't like bands like Linkin Park and Green Day, liked Jet and bought their CD and played it in his car all the time, so you're definitely right about it having a wider appeal.

The fashion legacy of this genre is prob its biggest thing.

Finn literally nailed it. I’m 22 and when I was 10 the first riff I learned on guitar was reptillia by the strokes BECAUSE of guitar hero. The garage rock to mathcore pipeline is REAL!

Wasn't 70's Punk really just an artsy garage revival championed by hipsters journalists that loved the Stooges and the Velvets? In the 2000's this was the music I had been waiting for, a breath of fresh air. For years I'd worked my way backwards from the Angry Samoans to the 13th Floor Elevators: Post punk, power pop, glam, Proto punk, 60's garage/psychedelia, surf, rockabilly. I had ever Nuggets, Rubble, and Back from the Grave compilation, Lux Interior was my prophet. When these bands broke I felt validated.

I’d say post garage revival lasted longer than mentioned in the video, more like a decade. I think It was killed off by the emergence of EDM in the 2010’s.

Every time my best friend came back from his Jewish camp he was into more of these bands. I grew up assuming The White Stripes were traditional Jewish music

I would love a resurgence of garage revival. It would be the one time I wouldn't complain about the kids just copying older cool stuff instead of making their own cool stuff.

Great vid. Was expecting it to be more in keeping with your ‘why I hate Indie’ video, but this felt measured, well researched and very insightful. Top work

Interpol is still one of my favorite bands and I'd say that them and The Strokes seem like the most relevant bands still going strong today.

Does anybody listen to newer garage rock stuff like The Growlers, The allah-las, fidlar, surf curse? Idk if I’d put all those under the same genre, but I want Fin to talk about that scene

Love the new set/ background! Looks great 👍🏼

Garage Rock is still big in Australia, in the 10s and 20s we have Violent Soho, DZ Deathrays, Dune Rats, Pist Idiots, The Chats and heaps more

Im in my early 20s and personally really like and miss the Early to Mid 2000s Garage Rock because it’s some of my first memories of enjoying music as a young child. My parents often had MTV 2 on the Living Room TV and they played the music videos from these songs often. I really liked the music because it was fun and energetic, and also some of the music videos where really cool (I remember really liking the ones from the White Stripes and thought Franz Ferdinand’s Take Me Out was the coolest thing I ever seen) Honestly I kind wish something like this kind of fun and simple rock and roll would come back

Another legacy of this genre. 7 nation army became a rallying song for the Italian National Team during the 2006 World Cup. And to this day, many soccer teams and fans will chant that song as a rally theme. It’s pretty cool.

Love your channel bro,I always learn so much. Thank you.

Is This It, Room on Fire, and White Blood Cells are some of my favorite albums.

Finn, awesome video as always. I would like to know what your thoughts are of desert rock? I'm so into Kuyss and the early Queens of the Stone Age stuff right now. There is just something about those psychedelic rock tunes with Josh Homme's heavy riffs and Nick Oliveri bass sound.

I was in my 30's when this stuff hit & it was a breath of fresh air for an old school rock fan like myself. I do agree that none of it really broke any new ground, that's probably why I liked so much of it, it was new songs in the style of a lot of the 70's music I grew up loving. IMO it was the last gasp of rock n roll being a mainstream cultural influence. Some other great rock n roll bands that were releasing albums & getting some traction at that time were The Donnas, The Mooney Suzuki, The Von Bondies.

Great freaking video. Loved watching it and very educating and well thought out \m/

really dig the way you structure your videos when explaining stuff 👍👍👍

I think the great majority of the garage rock bands were trying to be The Kinks. Which is the same band that the 80s garage bands like The Mummies were trying to be. Also the same band that a lot of the punk bands were trying to be. They were a precursor to metal, as well. Goddamn, The Kinks sprouted like five genres of music.

Man the mid 2000s were amazing when it came to music. I remember being 16 and working at GameStop and so much garage rock and punk on GameStop tv. Great days and great video, thanks.

This gives me so much nostalgia. The good old days. Around this time I was in my last years in high school and becoming an adult going into college. I remember when The Strokes came out it was sooo relieving. Like "I don't have to get a ton of piercings or wear baggy clothes to be cool anymore? Great!" and when the White Stripes came out it was like "I could just play in my garage and make a band now." Great moment.

I was loving the garage rock revival because my first big musical love was garage rock from the '60s. Them, the Standells, the Sonics. Huge influence on me. This was in the '80s when "oldies" radio was a thing. I didn't dig my sister's Madonna or what was on MTV, but when "Gloria" or "Dirty Water" came on KRTH in LA, I cranked that shit. It's what prompted me to dig my mom's old Rodeo electric guitar out of the hall closet. First time I heard Jet, I was right back there. Fuckin' good times.

The Yeah Yeah Yeahs were bonkers good. One incredible band I really regret not seeing live.

As always, great video 👊 I don't personally like this style of music but growing up, it was impossible not to hear it. Fun fact: I'm 7th grade Seven Nations Army was the "cool" thing to play among my friends who all started playing guitar and bass. Also, it's the first song I learned to play and sing 😎 good times

Great video! Keep them coming

Great video!