CMF by Nothing Watch Pro : Scientific Review (Heart Rate, Sleep, GPS)

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CMF by Nothing Watch Pro : Scientific Review (Heart Rate, Sleep, GPS)

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Timestamps:
00:00 Quick Intro
02:44 Heart Rate Test 1 : Indoor Cycling
07:56 Heart Rate Test 2 : Running
11:02 Heart Rate Test 3 : Outdoor Cycling
13:39 Heart Rate Test 4 : Weight Lifting
16:09 Sleep Stage Test 1 : Performance
22:48 Sleep Stage Test 2 : Comparison
25:10 Conclusions Pt1
25:52 Quick Note on GPS
26:21 Final Conclusions and Limitations
Using the CMF by Nothing Watch Pro has been one of the most frustrating experiences I’ve had in a while, and that’s saying something, given that I’ve tested dozens of smartwatches in the last year. Still, there are some things to like about this cheap 69 dollar smartwatch; A watch which I expect many are considering as a cheap Apple Watch alternative. However, as you will see in this video, based on my systematic testing of this watch, I think many of you will be disappointed with the performance of this first smartwatch of CMF by nothing. At least, that is, if you care about the sports and health tracking of this watch. Outside that, the watch does look and feel quite premium for the price. However, you can judge yourself based on the data I will share in this video.
I was quite excited to test the nothing watch, and I bought two of them to be able to collect a lot of data quickly. However, after connecting them with two of my iPhones, I noticed the first big problem I had with the nothing watch pro: none of the sports and sleep data was syncing to either of my iPhones. I could see it on the watch, but it just wasn’t there on the phone. I’d chosen iPhones since I was hoping to sync my data with Apple Health, but not only was this not happening, the data was not even showing up on the Nothing Watch app itself. I tried a bunch of things, and even contacted their help desk. I tried all their tips, but if this didn’t work, they suggested I go to an offline CMF service center.
So, the sleep stage tracking of the CMF Watch Pro just isn’t very good. I at least would not trust it to tell me anything useful about my stages, except perhaps my total time spent in bed. So, if you want anything more complicated than that, just pick another watch. Overall, I’d give the sleep stage tracking of the CMF Watch Pro, 2 out of 5 stars. So, as you might have guessed by now, with the current firmware and app, I am not very happy with the CMF Watch Pro. First of all, my data is locked in an ecosystem with a poorly performing app, and second, the health and sports data it does provide is more or less useless to me. That being said, more subjectively, I do like the design and simplicity of the CMF Watch Pro. And, for the price, it does feel surprisingly premium. It is kind of chunky, which means that it looks quite big on smaller wrists. So, if you don’t care about the health and sports tracking data, this might still be for you, but if you do, I would steer clear. Therefore, overall, I’d give the health and sports tracking of the CMF by Nothing Watch Pro, 1.5 out of 5 stars.

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@demimascot 6 ай бұрын

Manually extracting data from screenshots - that is THE level of madness dividing scientists from us - mere humans. I just love your attitude!

@TheQuantifiedScientist 6 ай бұрын

Thanks! I wish they made my life easier, and just connected to Strava (or follow GDPR guidelines)

@chrisjames9008 6 ай бұрын

This is why we love your channel.

@superherobeatdown 6 ай бұрын

@@TheQuantifiedScientistbut how do you know it’s really accurate tho ?

@TheQuantifiedScientist 6 ай бұрын

@@superherobeatdown It won't be perfect to extract data like this, but it will provide a good enough impression of how it performs. Also, it is the best I can do, but as I mention in the video, it definitely isn;t perfect

@user-fy4ly9kj8r 5 ай бұрын

Do not use for iPhone users. This is trash for iPhone users.

@victorvansande1019 6 ай бұрын

Big respect for the lengts you're willing to go through just to give us scientific and accurate data. Well done, these videos are the best of its kind out here on KZfaq! Keep it up man.

@TheQuantifiedScientist 6 ай бұрын

Thank you very much! 😊

@user-fy4ly9kj8r 5 ай бұрын

Do not use for iPhone users. This is trash for iPhone users.

@mehboobb1 Ай бұрын

Really looking forward for your review on CMF Watch Pro 2.

@marcjcd 6 ай бұрын

THANK YOU ROB! Many of the issues you've reported PLUS MORE on the actual watch portion of their software/hardware have not worked correctly (or at all) since launch, and they've responded to none of the comments that I and many others have listed on their community feedback boards. It's basically a decent looking watch that barely even tells time correctly. As always, GREAT VIDEO!

@TheQuantifiedScientist 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experience!

@yasserhussain4565 6 ай бұрын

This video is completely a waste of time please can you find a watch which will knock off apple at the top spot so it's useful for android users instead of wasting time with these stupid watches

@lmmao406 6 ай бұрын

@@yasserhussain4565Well genius, how do you figure that'll happen. Hint: These watches don't test themselves.

@MrQuan-vr8nk 6 ай бұрын

@@yasserhussain4565 What idiot makes a watch that's worse than Xiaomi and sells it at such an outrageous price?

@user-fy4ly9kj8r 5 ай бұрын

Do not use for iPhone users. This is trash for iPhone users.

@qwer55555555 6 ай бұрын

For the manual extract of the data. Kudos!

@TheQuantifiedScientist 6 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@user-fy4ly9kj8r 5 ай бұрын

Do not use for iPhone users. This is trash for iPhone users.

@danielmoksmann5654 6 ай бұрын

The first graph at 2:46 made my heart sink. 😄 And the others were even worse! Carl Pei should watch your video.

@TheQuantifiedScientist 6 ай бұрын

Hope it helped 😊

@MrQuan-vr8nk 6 ай бұрын

@@TheQuantifiedScientist What idiot makes a watch that's worse than Xiaomi and sells it at such an outrageous price?

@user-fy4ly9kj8r 5 ай бұрын

Do not use for iPhone users. This is trash for iPhone users.

@MrMorton 6 ай бұрын

I was interested in this watch because of the price but you definitely helped make that decision easier! Thanks for your effort and reveal 🙂

@TheQuantifiedScientist 6 ай бұрын

My pleasure! 😊

@brinckau 6 ай бұрын

I have watched Marques Brownlee's review of this watch, and... what a difference. Here we finally get a real review.

@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg 5 ай бұрын

Night and day difference huh.

@george6252 3 ай бұрын

Many of the watch reviewers are paid sponsors of said watches. A dead giveaway is they have nothing negative to say about the watch they are reviewing. Not this guy, The Qualified Scientist is my go to for the real deal.

@VPuffy 3 ай бұрын

What if he's the paid guy? He only used an iPhone to test an app made for android and extracted the data from there. He could've just used a nothing phone as the watch is made for it. He's just being biased himself and giving out false results..

@brinckau 3 ай бұрын

@@VPuffy I don't see anything indicating that the results are false.

@VPuffy 3 ай бұрын

The fact that he used an iPhone with which he mentioned that he was having connectivity issues and still he forced it to make it work which already would give many errors.. And the fact that he took the values manually from screenshots adds a additional layer of errors on top of that.. He could've just used a nothing phone to do the testing which would've been the best for both connectivity and results @@brinckaucomplaining that a watch made for android, doesn't work with iphones, and still continuing using the iPhone for the testing clearly shows that he biased towards Apple and this fact make his results unreliable..

@MorriganJade 6 ай бұрын

Seeing the many reviews that are done more critically, I can safely say that Nothing has nothing to say.

@TheQuantifiedScientist 6 ай бұрын

Haha, seems like it ;-)

@sephpatrick Ай бұрын

The CMF watch pro 2 just came out. I think you will be interested. 😊

@mehboobb1 Ай бұрын

Ya, looking forward for this review.

@Ash_Cafe Ай бұрын

Hi, the watch just got strava support in the app along with a new watch 2 version. Will you please test the new watch? Thanks for this review by the way, I saw this after buying the cmf watch but I will definitely watch your reviews before buying another watch!

@Fremmy 6 ай бұрын

This has been an anticipated review. Thanks for the hard work Rob!

@user-fy4ly9kj8r 5 ай бұрын

Do not use for iPhone users. This is trash for iPhone users.

@Adam-M1 6 ай бұрын

I’ve been waiting for this one!! Thanks for sharing.

@TheQuantifiedScientist 6 ай бұрын

Hope you like it! 😊

@dsbllr 5 ай бұрын

One of the most underrated KZfaq channels. Keep up the great work!

@user-fy4ly9kj8r 5 ай бұрын

Do not use for iPhone users. This is trash for iPhone users.

@minantraXOX 6 ай бұрын

ive had two, bought from the Nothing store in London, loved the look and the OS and its actually good quality BUT both returned as they constantly disconnected and would only reconnect once my phone was restarted! They acknowledged in the store that this is a known problem and said wait for CMF2 watch!!!!

@TheQuantifiedScientist 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experience!

@Aldo923 6 ай бұрын

@@TheQuantifiedScientistCould you analyze the Rollme HERO M5? The reviews I have seen say that its non-invasive measurement of glucose, blood pressure and thermometer are very accurate

@MrQuan-vr8nk 6 ай бұрын

What idiot makes a watch that's worse than Xiaomi and sells it at such an outrageous price?

@JakobDam 6 ай бұрын

Almost random data generation, unknown data policy without direct access... Life pro tip: Buying 2 dice and call whatever you throw your current heart rate, is cheaper and seems to work just as well as the Nothing Watch Pro. Big thanks to Rob for yet another great review!

@Day-wm7nn 6 ай бұрын

Please do a review on redmi watch 4, I consider buying it, but based on your previous videos about the other xiaomi devices, Im kinda holding back

@BradMoss 4 ай бұрын

Hi Rob, has Nothing/CMF contacted you about this and with a goal of making any improvements?

@shoaibahmed5109 6 ай бұрын

What a dedication, Great effort!

@user-fy4ly9kj8r 5 ай бұрын

Do not use for iPhone users. This is trash for iPhone users.

@aravindbabu2771 6 ай бұрын

You have done so much for this. Great effort

@TheQuantifiedScientist 6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much 😀

@user-fy4ly9kj8r 5 ай бұрын

Do not use for iPhone users. This is trash for iPhone users.

@jonwasd 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for this video, was planning on buying a CMF Watch just because I have a Phone (2) (which is actually good unlike this watch). Decided on an Inspire 3 instead. Keep doing these, as it really helps out people in deciding what to buy! 👍

@hdtravel1 5 ай бұрын

I love my CMF by Nothing Watch Pro and have found it to be a great smartwatch - I'm on Android - great watch and great value - I highly recommend it !!

@bannablitz247 29 күн бұрын

I really hope you review the watch pro 2, it is supposed to be significantly better than the original.

@chahem Ай бұрын

Would really appreciate the CMF watch pro 2 review. considering buying it, if they have improved.

@mehboobb1 Ай бұрын

Me too.

@Smartphoenix1982 6 ай бұрын

😂Crap Watch. Thx for your Test ❤ Pls update your Test from The Pixel Watch 2 and Fitbit Charge 6. 🙏

@TheQuantifiedScientist 6 ай бұрын

Working in it! 😊

@Smartphoenix1982 6 ай бұрын

@@TheQuantifiedScientist Thx! Really. Thank you for your work on this.

@MrQuan-vr8nk 6 ай бұрын

yes, crap watch :). idiot watch ^^. Xiaomi watch, Redmi watch very bad and Nothing Watch super bad...huawei gt4, gt3pro, GT Runner, watch fit 2 is better.

@rakemgage5096 5 ай бұрын

you know i ended up buying this watch for the sake of having a new smart watch the is overall pretty good. Not perfect or even the best but good for the price with good materials and a amazing price if you just want a good looking smart watch for everyday use its perfect

@vicaya 6 ай бұрын

Really appreciate these in depth reviews! Please review some smart rings as alternatives to Oura, which requires subscription to be useful. There are many ~$20 R3 and SR200 variants that look pretty interesting. It seems much easier to damage and/or lose watches than rings.

@hwanandré 6 ай бұрын

Hi Rob, Are you planning on making another video on the Pixel Watch 2? I'm really interested on its sleep tracking reliability.

@v4mp1el 6 ай бұрын

Thanks. Please review the Xiaomi Redmi Watch 4

@deadskull888 6 ай бұрын

Cant wait you do a review on redmi watch 4! Thank you for the detail review!! ❤

@MrQuan-vr8nk 6 ай бұрын

Xiaomi watch, Redmi watch very bad...huawei gt4, gt3pro, GT Runner, watch fit 2 is better.

@deadskull888 6 ай бұрын

@@MrQuan-vr8nk oh really? I know their tracking and fitness feature is not too good right?

@vartZi123 6 ай бұрын

Quality content as always! Thank you Rob!

@TheQuantifiedScientist 6 ай бұрын

Thanks! Really appreciated! 😊

@zephyreunioa 5 ай бұрын

As a machine learning student dude casually said that i stuck at graph

@ebohutomo 6 ай бұрын

Hey rob. Thanks for video. Please compare budget heart rate chesttrap to expensive.

@foodify66 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review

@user-fy4ly9kj8r 5 ай бұрын

Do not use for iPhone users. This is trash for iPhone users.

@mehboobb1 Ай бұрын

Looks very scientific and accurate analysis. Superb review. Love it.

@velmurugann6817 Ай бұрын

Want to see cmf watch 2 review

@gianlucas 6 ай бұрын

It seems like the galaxy Watch5 pro is also performing quite well in sleep tracking... Did I miss an update video? I could not find any. I am considering an upgrade from the galaxy watch4.

@prasathvishnu 6 ай бұрын

Respect your commitment. Hats off

@TheQuantifiedScientist 6 ай бұрын

Thanks! 😊

@gyaniadmi2347 Ай бұрын

What about Samsung Fit 3 ? Is it good

@DeepEndDiving 6 ай бұрын

The work and dedication you showed in each of these videos is astounding. Thank you for all of the work you put into these.

@raphael5900 6 ай бұрын

Hello Rob! Thanks for all your analysis. I think you're the only person who did that so well. I have a question, maybe you've already answered it, but I'll ask you anyway: Is there any reason why you haven't made a video on the new Withings ScanWatch?

@user-fy4ly9kj8r 5 ай бұрын

Do not use for iPhone users. This is trash for iPhone users.

@otycyrrus 5 ай бұрын

Hello ! Can you please test the huawei watch fit special edition ? I want to know how it compares to the huawei watch fit 2. Thanks.

@HughesyTech 6 ай бұрын

Great work mate! Will you be testing Redmi Watch 4 because apparently it has a new improved PPG sensor

@MrQuan-vr8nk 6 ай бұрын

Xiaomi watch, Redmi watch very bad...huawei gt4, gt3pro, GT Runner, watch fit 2 is better.

@lukesps4766 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for these videos. have you thought about comparing the differences in how many calories the trackers say they are burning vs what is actually being burnt since there is a big difference supposedly I think that would be an interesting addition to these videos

@beIN.Community Ай бұрын

Please, give Scientific review on CMF Watch pro 2....

@davidcg809 6 ай бұрын

I need your review on the Xiaomi watch 2 pro, the one with wear OS, is just that nobody does this type of reviews like you do 🥺

@MrQuan-vr8nk 6 ай бұрын

Xiaomi watch, Redmi watch very bad and Nothing Watch super bad...huawei gt4, gt3pro, GT Runner, watch fit 2 is better.

@hyde129 5 ай бұрын

Great job man! Was looking at this watch for my dad as his looking for affordable smart wearable for health data tracking, looks like it’s just not the watch to go with

@sahinn.burakk 6 ай бұрын

You should definetely add calories burned as an another comparison option

@NLR_Mango 6 ай бұрын

Hi Rob! can you please check the Redmi watch 3 active. I'm getting one today and was wondering if it's accurate or not. Btw the price is really really really cheap. I got mine for as little as 42 dollars. Please it would be really appreciated since you haven't done a Redmi watch review in a while.. thanks!! 🙏🙏 .

@viyye 6 ай бұрын

Rob: always a trooper!

@TheQuantifiedScientist 6 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@aaakmm1785 6 ай бұрын

Great test. Please include in your test more cases of running and some everyday tasks around house.

@alexiebaj2592 3 ай бұрын

can that be tweaked with an update? also, the comparator data is not 100% accurate so u may also want to consider

@Tiamo1519 6 ай бұрын

When do you plan scanwatch 2?

@5yotub 6 ай бұрын

Quick question: I'm into DA as well. I want to know if that p-value was obtained with a 'relational test' (cannot remember the name) comparing the similarities between two distributions . A low value meaning that the two distributions are veeeeery different (low probability that the differences are only due to statistical variations etc) Great content! Thanks! 🤗

@TheQuantifiedScientist 6 ай бұрын

Hi! Thanks for the question. The p-value in this case is not very meaningful, since even a relatively low correlation will still be significant. I wouldn't focus on it in this case.

@5yotub 6 ай бұрын

@@TheQuantifiedScientist Thank you very much! 🙌🏻

@user-ly9ej5yb7j 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for making these videos, it would a good idea if you could review the core body temperature sensor (corebodytemp).

@luigifumagalli5191 6 ай бұрын

Hey Rob are you still planning a full review of the pixel watch 2 sleep capability? I am still waiting on that since the preliminary review you did a few months ago 😢

@TheQuantifiedScientist 6 ай бұрын

Hi! For sure! In the overview it already includes some more data

@yourbear2812 6 ай бұрын

Redmi watch 4 it a same design

@Sonnell 6 ай бұрын

Please review Casio smartwatches!! Thank you!!

@TheQuantifiedScientist 6 ай бұрын

Noted! I'll keep it in mind!

@Sonnell 6 ай бұрын

@@TheQuantifiedScientist Oh wow, great!

@DazzleDaveLFC 4 ай бұрын

What is best watch for monitoring sleep?

@relaxedkid0880 6 ай бұрын

Great video bro! Can you do a full review of the Amazfit Band 7 too?

@gregovchinnikov1046 6 ай бұрын

Hello Rob! You are fantastic thank you so much for all your videos :)

@Kirubhas_Shankar 6 ай бұрын

Kudos for the effort

@dannyyap2006 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the sharing. As always, GREAT VIDEO!

@user-fy4ly9kj8r 5 ай бұрын

Do not use for iPhone users. This is trash for iPhone users.

@AmalSony 4 ай бұрын

wow what a great video the effort you put to make this vdo is insane ..& i have a doubt , i want to gift my father a smartwatch under 70dollars and i am in a way bigger confusion of picking up one because there are so many watches ,he would like watches with that are not so thick , dont need metal straps, and elegant looking watches, and would be nice if health tracking which works well is there which one do you suggests, pls help me fast..

@tiberiolandi1042 6 ай бұрын

Thank you, your work is incredible, the only one!!! In the budget zone, you could try the haylou s8...

@-Archer Ай бұрын

Is the redmi watch 3 active better than this?

@viyye 6 ай бұрын

i will save you watching the whole video by these words: if you have it bin it, if you don't, don't even think about it

@TheQuantifiedScientist 6 ай бұрын

Haha, I guess so :-)

@Matthew-xy1hj 6 ай бұрын

Did you ever experience a watch able to record heart rate from a table top? I have this watch and often when I leave it on my counter top, in the morning it will have recorded sleep cycles and a fairly humanistic heart rate. Almost like it's running a demo mode.

@ferysery 2 ай бұрын

still the app have not the ability to be linked with strava ?

@samb9728 6 ай бұрын

Heyyy, any advice about the scanwatch 2 ? i think it has it s place in your testing. hope you will include it soon 🙏

@m4t7eo 6 ай бұрын

Wow this is as precise in capturing health data as a Casio f91w.

@Treplo13 6 ай бұрын

Liked the chart and that the Apple ones are the best, compared to the CMF ones that only cost 80 dollars For the price, it's like comparing Bentley Bentayga to VW Golf. It's exactly the same chart. Most people for that money will get enough time, notice, and maybe some design. But thank you for your efforts.

@MrQuan-vr8nk 6 ай бұрын

What idiot makes a watch that's worse than Xiaomi and sells it at such an outrageous price?

@Aldo923 6 ай бұрын

Could you analyze the Rollme HERO M5? The reviews I have seen say that its non-invasive measurement of glucose, blood pressure and thermometer are very accurate

@devsanjay7063 27 күн бұрын

Thank you Rob 🙏🙏🙏ur the best.

@robertfatoulatchi9482 6 ай бұрын

Hello, do you know kardena's pro4 brand? Could you make a review ? Thx

@calvinyip364 Ай бұрын

Can you redo the test got amazfit gtr 4? The update claims it improves the accuracy

@ApolyonTheSoulRender 29 күн бұрын

The performance of this original bodes poorly for the newly-released CMF Watch Pro 2. Hope they made improvements

@comradece8946 3 ай бұрын

Is Huawei fit 2 much better?

@ViciousTurducken 6 ай бұрын

Would you consider reviewing sleep tracking apps that use your phone's accelerometer and audio sensors? Apps such as Sleep Cycle and Sleep as Android (plus its Sleep Phaser product)

@HeungEarl 6 ай бұрын

Always the best contents!

@taqwatakwa5881 6 ай бұрын

new years first video amazing

@z4kk4 3 ай бұрын

where is gps ?

@akaigetsu 6 ай бұрын

Would they be able to fix this with software updates? I am considering either this watch or the Xiaomi Redmi Watch 4

@jonscene 6 ай бұрын

Redmi w 4 is a better choice(not because of data accuracy but the software won't be laggy like this CrapMF), CheapMF's won't be getting any better.

@MrChetbox 6 ай бұрын

I got one of these and use it with an iPhone. Every single workout shows up in Kazakstan rather than the UK. It's good to know I can ignore the rest of the data coming out of it too. 😂

@MrQuan-vr8nk 6 ай бұрын

Xiaomi watch, Redmi watch very bad and Nothing Watch super bad...huawei gt4, gt3pro, GT Runner, watch fit 2 is better. What idiot makes a watch that's worse than Xiaomi and sells it at such an outrageous price?

@Fkacu 3 ай бұрын

Ok, so what your recommendation?@@MrQuan-vr8nk

@abdulmuthalib6510 24 күн бұрын

Cmf watch 2 pro please review

@tonkerdog1 5 ай бұрын

I’ve got one and it’s brilliant. At least it doesn’t run out of battery every ten minutes. My pixel watch didn’t connect to my iPhone either. It connects perfectly to my Pixel 8. Why does it cost $70? Because that’s how much this stuff really costs that’s why.

@drewtate5334 6 ай бұрын

Are you testing the Ultrahuman Air Ring? It’s a direct competitor for Oura.

@nou1611 6 ай бұрын

So technically it's a good looking watch with shitty accuracy, so I would say get an Analog watch at this point, or something else like a Mi band or Huawei Band or Watch

@muhammadanwar1659 5 ай бұрын

which one brands trace perfect accurate data on smart watch?

@ElectroLM10 5 ай бұрын

Apple Watch are the best but the most expensive as well

@rmacpie3475 29 күн бұрын

In India it's cost me just $28 after applying different offers , Best I could say.

@lewislane1143 5 күн бұрын

The problem is you tested with Apple. Cannot be compatible with inferior product .

@compact-panda 6 ай бұрын

Waiting for redmi watch 4

@TRINIMARKY 8 күн бұрын

Cmf watch pro 2 review ?

@mikemt91 6 ай бұрын

Hi Rob! Garmin Vivoactive 5?

@TheQuantifiedScientist 6 ай бұрын

Just made finished the figures for the video 😊

@aaakmm1785 6 ай бұрын

@@TheQuantifiedScientist Can you say if Vivoactive 5 has any better HR accuracy than Instinct 2 that has the same sensor? Can you add to your HR accuracy a test "sitting in front of a computer and walking around the house"? This would be a nice baseline test to see how good HR accuracy is for the most basic case.

@MrQuan-vr8nk 6 ай бұрын

i think Huawei gt4, gt3pro, GT Runner, watch fit 2 is better. I use gt3pro and i see very good :)

@nicholasbourne777 Ай бұрын

I clearly remember those days, when somebody talks about smartwatch it has to be apple watch. And then samsung jumps in to that and some chinese company too, with their cheap so called smart watches and doing the exact same thing what apple watch does, in my opinion smartwatch is a piece of crap, this doesn't add value into someone's life, it just make someone feel satisfied that they are upto date with the latest trends. Guys buy a chronograph watch, not just that look stylish, they add value to a personality, like having a edifice or a tag heuer this adds up a value to your personality