Ahhhhhhh. Isn't medical school like $200k+?

Ya but anesthesiologists make 400-800k so I think he is fine

Same story! It’s possible!

@@ProfessorFinanceOfficial this guy is saying 0 debt for undergrad.

Same exact story! I knew I wanted to go to medical school and that would be a whole “beast” on its own financially, so I chose to go a state school where my undergrad was fully paid for with scholarships. This was one of the best decisions I’ve ever made. Residency programs really don’t care where you went to undergrad!! Currently an incoming Anesthesiology intern at one of the top programs in the country. Super thankful..

Best friends dont pay other friends expensive colleges either.

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Right

Exactly! Smh

Except that moving the goalposts on your kid is not being a parent. Refusing to pay the same amount of money to help with the more expensive school is essentially trying to control your kid, and whether it's the smart move or not, it's going to backfire on them. I also suspect there's a reason caller didn't tell us what the two schools were.

Excellent point as I have seen that be the case before as well.

I barely passed kitchen Chem, which ended any medical aspirations before they started

I just said the same. thing.

No lie in this statement

My daughter - who is a doctor says as soon as they have to think about studying for the MCAT - you lose at least 75% of the pre-meds

Because it’s a once in a lifetime experience. And I have no sympathy for parents who tell their kids their entire childhood “when you’re 18 you can do whatever you want, but right now, you’re still a child and have to listen to me” and then when the kid turns 18 refuse to honor their agreement. The parents made an agreement and a promise and now they have to honor it.

@@johnmartin4641 Oh nonsense, he's the one paying for her college!

@@jeffwvu4602 regardless, if you make an agreement, honor it.

@@johnmartin4641 Did I miss the part where he told her he would pay her way through any college, no matter how expensive? And Socialists want taxpayers to foot the bill for these foolish decisions because it was a "once in a lifetime opportunity." Give me a break. If Princess wants the more expensive college because it's a way from home, then she CAN do whatever she wants. But he has no obligation to pay for it. It seems that you stopped adulting.

@@johnmartin4641 The parents didn't agree for her to attend a more expensive school so the parents doesn't need to honor the agreement since daughter already broke the deal.

You mean in 5-10 years 🤣?

300K? That number will be closer to a million. Im a million dollars in debt but im a doctor making $250k a year

And one that says her parents are on the hook for the bill not her 😂

😂

⁠@@lemongrass3945 Honest question; do you regret it? I can’t imagine you feel like you’re getting a good ROI making 250 with a million in debt. And no offense but $1,000,000 seems high even for a doctor. Probably could have done it more cost effectively.

One of my first thoughts.

Bingo! A lot of kids don't even have what it takes to get to medical school and if they did, some might just changed their mind and want to major in something else.

They call it "Pre" med for a reason...............

This is a great point. Those who excel can transfer, too.

At community college. Have the kid finish her general education classes. Then see how committed she is.

But he didn't say what the reason was why she wanted to choose school B. Not buying "just because she wants to stay away from home". He wouldn't even say the school names. Definitely not a complete call.

@@Primitive_Code yes, maybe the program she wants is not offered by the school that he is desiring that she go to. You must gather all the details before drawing a conclusion.

@@BBC600 some conclusions you can draw without knowing more. One of those conclusions is if you’re unable to afford something, you’re unable to afford it.

@@Primitive_Code I'm buying it. It also is likely either where her friends are going, or just a prestigious school she wants to be able to say she went to for the name. Kids that age are often not very good at making the best long-term decisions.

BINGO!!

Typically kids want to eventually move out of their parents house

@@emmarose6590 that's our hope - as a parent speaking. 🤣😁

As long as you’re ok with the fact she’s getting ridden more than Seattle Sleu

@@charlesg7926 not sure what you mean by that. Her BF moved with her and they shared an apartment (and have since gotten married after they both graduated). What are you implying?

@@HarmonyHollowApiary Let’s put it a different way: She ain’t paying thousands of extra dollars just so that you won’t catch her with her long-term boyfriend

I guessing a very good state school. It just happened to be in the same state her family live in.

I suspect he is full of crap. He would have used the actual names of the universities (and we could have easily fact checked him) if he wasn’t full of crap.

​@user-hn9qw7ou8d He didn't want to reveal his family's location. Like you did not want to reveal your identity, so you used a bull crap username.

@@rayj.9568 Yeah, if he would have said the names of the universities, we would have easily identified him, thus endangering his family. Brilliant point.

Doesn't fix the problem just creates a new one. When she's drowning in debt, she's probably gonna blame you for letting her make that decision.

Periodt!

And parents should NOT cosign either for a loan

Easy right

Exactly, the audacity oh her smh

That's true but also they are her parents. It is irresponsible for them to not strongly counsel her against the poor choice that will lead to her having $120k of unnecessary debt to pay off.

@@maxrice6990 honestly by 18, they missed their chance for that.

That's what I told my daughters: Here is what we have planned for your college education. If you want to spend more than that, it's on you. I did the same thing with their clothes in high school. I budgeted for Walmart jeans; if they wanted Express, they were responsible for the difference.

@@michellerichardson3090 Ehh, easier said than done, Michelle. Lots of kids that are bright and hardworking take out debt because it's easy to be oblivious to the value of the dollar at that age, even if you're raised right for the most part. And there is still a lot of growth to be had from age 18 to mid-twenties. Some encouragement in the right direction from parents is great at that age, as long as the parents understand it is different than dealing with a 16 year old or 10 year old.

She’s entitled to her choice of college but she’s not entitled to going to college. She needs to fund it for herself or not go to college.

Except she will probably fall into the student loan hole. Which then sets back the parents too.

@@mrjack8849 no effect on the parents... unless they co-sign.

@@ricm96 doesn’t matter if they’re in a loan or not. If the kid is broke, where do you think she will come to for money or housing first? Much less if something happens to them and they can’t take care of themselves. These parents don’t sound like they would abandon their kid.

You can say one word: No. You got the loan yourself, you pay for it yourself. There is this magical thing called a ✨️job✨️

The value analysis was good.

Good idea.

I thought the same thing. If there are cheap apartments available, she can move out even with the cheaper school. My kid didn't learn about how much food, rent and life cost when parents aren't paying for it.

Yea. Told my daughter the only way i’d spend to educate her was to buy her a stripper pole. Best investment ever, she payin my bills now

I agree. She can be away from home in the same city.

Same here, had to pay all my college myself and also my first car, my parents never offered me anything.

OMGosh! Same Betty! Same! 🙌🏾

Entitled? Have you seen who Bernie’s supporters are? It’s not the children of successful parents who pay for everything that support Bernie and demand the taxpayer pay for their college. It’s the children of parents who don’t give them enough and refuse to pay for their college that feel they’re entitled to have their college paid for by you and me because their parents refuse to do their jobs. Every young Bernie supporter I’ve come across has student debt because their parents didn’t pay. Every single one.

Me too.😢

Congratulations

Caribbean, Latino yada yada has nothing to do with it, we put way too much emphasis on nonsense...... That's 'Dads' period..... dude's name name was Manuel let's not over stereotype him......same conversation and situation if guy was named George or Jorge

@@geminieric1662 Nonsense? Lol. I get what you're trying to say, but the motivations of someone that walked barefoot before they came to the USA are more often than not, extremely different from those who are native born.

@@geminieric1662 youre sounding like one right now 😂🤣

Yes!! My dad was low key like this (Mexican) and he always wanted to give us the best in life (he was an orphan). But when I got around to going to college I expected him to pay for it and got a rude awakening when he said he didn’t even have a penny for college 😅😂… it’s not worth going into debt for universities especially. I’d say get an associates at a community college and then see how you feel once you get through thay

Yea. Told my daughter the only way i’d spend to educate her was to buy her a stripper pole. Best investment ever, she payin my bills now

@@Kaktus965 lol. Is it more lucrative than a medical degree?

Kaktus she’s paying your bills until she’s 30 and “ages out” of her stripping career.

@kaktus- gross

I would take it further. Dear daughter we will pay $x for school A. If you choose to attend school B then you pay for everything. Love you!!!!

@@kennethlowrey2902 YES, THAT’S the perfect solution .. 👏

@@SO4JTV In my opinion there is nothing wrong with influencing an adult child when it’s your cash on the line.

If the parents paid any part of the more expensive university B while having her take student loans for the difference, they'd be funding her stupidity. That's why Dave said they shouldn't pay anything for university B.

​@@kennethlowrey2902Absolutely correct.

My ex had a scholarship in an MD,PhD and she developed depression.. definitely hard.

I agree, its mind blowing that they would even consider 208K just to get a biology or chemistry degree. Medical school is the only field in medicine that she needs to even pay for this after she is done and that is not inlcuding the the cost of medical school which is not guaranteed she will get in. She will be half a million dollars by the time she finishes a medical degree its crazy. It better be a surgeon or something

Gender Studies

Princess syndrome

By being a spoiled brat her whole life aka it's her parents fault

It's the sickness of this generation. Remember that they are taught that they can do whatever they like.

Exactly

I paid about the same for my daughter’s undergrad and I have her in medical school right now. I paid a lot more for one of my other daughter’s undergrad. From the moment you find out your wife is pregnant, you have about 19 years to work, save, and invest. It’s not a big deal for us parents to pay for, but it is for the child because they obviously can’t work, save, and invest from the moment they are conceived.

I’m sorry that that’s what your experience was, but no one should put their kids in a position to start their careers off in debt, especially with college as expensive as it is now. Studies show that people who have all of their college paid for by their parents become more successful than those that pay their own way. That’s the whole reason we encourage our kids to go to college: to make more money. If you’re going to put them in a position to where they’re going to make less money, that defeats the whole purpose of them going to college. Entitled? Have you seen Bernie Sanders supporters? It’s not the kids that have all of their college paid for by their parents that support Bernie and feel they’re entitled to free college. It’s the kids of parents who didn’t help them and didn’t give them enough. I have never come across any young Bernie supporter that had their parents pay for all of their expenses at the colleges of their choice. Not one. Every single one of them have student debt because their parents didn’t help. Their parents didn’t give them enough, so they turn to taxpayers like you and me to give it to them. Also, from the time the parents find out they’re pregnant until the day the kid starts college, they have about 19 years to work, get promotions and raises, save, and invest. It’s not that big of a deal for the parents. It is very difficult for the child though because they obviously can’t work, get promotions and raises, save, and invest from the moment they’re conceived.

Agree with you and also dislike the sense of entitlement. Got to have a mentality to rise above canned societal beliefs. A person with a student loan debt is not destined to be less successful than those without one. I too paid my own way. Did have minor, partial help from employer education benefits. Build character and a sense of responsibility early.

I knew I wouldn't have help from my parents so I decided to go to Community College out of Pocket and I'm so glad I did one of the best choices I ever made

@@johnmartin4641 yo I wasn't expecting to get emotional reading this comment but you pulled heart strings. Someone who understands.

You are the opposite of entitled tho that word gets thrown around. Your parents should have helped you darling. I’m sorry it was so hard for you. I suppose it put hair on your chest to do it on your own but geez. They could have helped

@NomadBachelor that's awesome... Best wishes with your future

@@aytcs its the parents money not hers, nowadays there is alot of spoiled kids

It’s my money as a parent, don’t like it, leave

@@aytcs Spoken like an entitled broke person. (Not referring to OP)

@@aytcs no a wise parent. Makes no sense to pay more than you are willing or even have to give. It is called having boundaries. The child can figure out how to pay for the rest themselves...this is called working to get what you want/discipline.

@@R_W_Goodson 🤣my first thought. Sounds like a child/adult who wanted their parents to give them everything they wanted then resented them if they said no.

If she’s a doctor making mid six figures might not be too bad

We don't even know what the two schools are it may not be a flex worthy school.

She obviously does if the dad already told her how much money the schools cost, which he claims he did.

LOL🤣🤣🤣

My parents ended that with me in 4th grade beginning with telling me I was on my own funding tuition after 18 and to try to get a scholarship and save.

Haha! I remember wanting a 4 door car!! I got one, but I also paid for it

and look at you now, no where close to where youd have been if your parents prioritized your future over their present.

Very true. Some students are very settled, they shadowed professions, volunteered at hospitals, medical offices, talked to doctor's but others have an "idea" of what it is like. They should also look at stats from beginning to end. Good med prep colleges don't except students in they think will drop out. They brag about 80% up staying the course. It's not about the money, it looks good on paper and gets them more students who are prepared to do the work

It’s terrible that in California public universities students can’t get all their requirements in in four years.

Exactly! I don’t understand the father’s dilemma. 😵‍💫

Right. What’s with these weak mamby pamby parents that let the kids call the shots. Just say no geez

Because if you don't give explanations to kids nowadays. They call you toxic , cut you out of their life

@@spiderpig24321 well Until they need something 😀

@@spiderpig24321 I'm thinking this girl couldn't survive without her parents. That's what is wrong with this generation. Parents want to be their kids friend & not actually parent their child. That's why their kid ends up being entitled & will struggle thru life as life doesn't always bend to every spoiled childs ways.

My kids are gonna be God's just like me

@@musicpro7278 inflated ego much? As unique as your family may seem, I think your implying a meaning to my statement that Im not trying to portray.

@@origins777 lol

Controlling parents usually end up estranged from their children. I know because that’s one of the reasons I’m estranged from my control freak parents.

@@johnmartin4641 control comes in many forms and it doesn't have to be over reaching, I love how you guys jump to the idea that I'm saying parents have to be dictators, simply don't let your kids elevate themselves over you in the family hierarchy, if they don't agree then let them branch off and taste the world for themselves.

I agree. This makes the most sense. Especially since she's going to be going to med school anyway after her undergrad. 🤷🏾‍♀️

Exactly! I did this to transfer from University of North Georgia (a community/state level college) to University of Georgia, one of the top state schools in Georgia. I was unable to get in out of high school, but transferred in after a year.

May be time to explain the total amount you can provide toward car and college and have her think about how to best use the amount. Also, maybe look up a car loan payment calculator to show her how much the total cost of a car is if it has to be financed (and how its value drops after being owned for a while). Good luck!

@@jerimorgan4114 I like those ideas. But I think at that stage of development, they want what they want and feel threatened by what everyone else has. It feels humiliating not be like everyone else. Well, combating this is what parents are for.

Tell her she can pay the difference then.

It will pass. By the time she gets to college she’ll see people that don’t have much. She learn to appreciate you and what she has

Yes - but - this girl obviously lacks the maturity to handle that kind of responsibility. She needs supervision.

Why do you say that. She has opportunities. She could make it through

If you don’t explain, it will be received by her as spiteful and destroy their relationship. My parents constantly said “no” to everything I wanted to do and I no longer speak to them.

A LOT OF PARENTS ARE AFRAID TO TELL THEIR KIDS NO, IT FEELS INCONFORTABLE AND YOUR KIDS WILL ARGUE BUT YOU HAVE TO STAND YOUR GROUND AND BE HONEST. I THINK YOUNG ADULTS NEED TO REALIZE THAT PARENTS DO NOT HAVE TO SACRIFICE THEIR LIFE SAVINGS, TIME AND HEALTH JUST TO PLEASE THEM. EACH INDIVIDUAL HAS TO MAKE SOME SACRIFICE AND YOUNG ADULTS ARE FULL OF ENERGY, ENERGY THAT SHOULD BE USED TO WORK AND GO TO SCHOOL AND NOT TO DRAIN YOUR PARENTS FOR EVERITHING THEY HAVE.

@@johnmartin4641 No one cares that you're mad that mommy and daddy treated you like an adult instead of a spoiled brat.

Entitled? Have you seen who Bernie’s supporters are? It’s not kids that have everything paid for by their parents that support Bernie. It’s the kids of parents who didn’t give them enough that feel they’re entitled to have their college paid for by the taxpayers. Every young Bernie supporter I’ve come across had to pay for their own college and none of them had their college paid for by their parents. Not a single one. Their parents didn’t give them enough, so they look to us taxpayers to give them what their parents failed to give them.

Fair point. Imagine scoffing at $88k

@@mightymouse9001 given her intent is medical school, if she get 88k from mom and dad, borrows 120k, then borrows another 400k+ for medical, that is still viable if she successfully graduates, and becomes a doctor. but if she fails late in the game, then it would be very difficult to pay that debt as other than a doctor. My guess is she has had a moderately comfortable life, may have a some friend with well off parents, but does not realize that her parents are not that well off. not unusual for high school students. Thats why I think a year of starbucks barista will help her get a proper realignment

Because a parents’ job is to provide for their children. Studies show people who have all of their college paid for by their parents make more money than those who pay their own way. That’s the whole reason we encourage our kids to go to college: to make more money. Putting them in a position to where they make less money defeats the whole purpose of college. And us parents have about 19 years to work, save, and invest from the moment we find out we’re having a baby until the day they go to college. Our kids obviously can’t start working, saving, and investing from the moment they’re conceived. That’s why it’s not a big deal for us parents to pay, but it’s a lot more difficult for the kids to pay.

@@johnmartin4641 lol get lost bozo

We said something similar to ours. Graduated in 4 years living their best life

What’s wrong with that? The whole reason we encourage our kids to go to college is so they can make more money. Wanting a higher paycheck is a good thing. From the moment you find out you’re having a baby until the day they go to college, you have about 19 years to work, save, and invest. The child obviously does not have that luxury considering they can’t start working, saving, and investing the moment they’re conceived and a parent’s job is to provide for the child. That’s why the parents should pay. And studies show that people who have all of their college paid for by their parents go on to be more successful than those who pay their own way. I’m not taking about your situation specifically, but that’s what the studies show in general, which is why parents should pay. Entitled? Have you seen who Bernie’s supporters are? It’s not kids who’s parents pay for everything that support Bernie and feel they’re entitled to have their college paid for by the taxpayers. It’s the kids of parents who didn’t give them enough, so they turn to you and me to do their parents’ job.

I wonder about their relationship too. Does she feel smothered in some way? I know Dave didn't want his daughter going out of state and he could afford it. Some parents want kids close although adults and know they can't afford it on their own. I was lucky mine had a 3-4 hour window since they knew they wanted to be home for holiday's and occasional weekends without much issue.

went thru this with my oldest child--she flunked out because of excessive partying and is the only one of my parents grandchildren who does not have a degree

Yea. Told my daughter the only way i’d spend to educate her was to buy her a stripper pole. Best investment ever, she payin my bills now

Yep 👍