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'There is no need for the Election Commission to upload Form 17C', says former EC Ashok Lavasa

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@saranbhanupratap2909
@saranbhanupratap2909 2 ай бұрын
2019 elections were during Mr Lavasa time and discrepancies on 373 seats are still unexplained . Why did he take no pains till 2022 ?
@user-tq8li4nh5w
@user-tq8li4nh5w 2 ай бұрын
Why EC has put increased voting Data in off time in two phases polled?
@akshitjain3503
@akshitjain3503 2 ай бұрын
Print making click bait titles which is opposite of what is said in video. Then asking subscribers to be a patron won't work.
@coconutpunch123
@coconutpunch123 2 ай бұрын
Yes. What he said about 17c forums. But he clearly said total votes number data should publish
@leolasrado1881
@leolasrado1881 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Print for arranging this useful interview.
@vishaltripathi6243
@vishaltripathi6243 2 ай бұрын
Out of so many things the Mr Lavasa said, you picked up this as your video title. 🤦
@janami-dharmam
@janami-dharmam 2 ай бұрын
the original demand was the actual voter numbers based on which the percentages were calculated. Like it was done in earlier years. Most of the information in Form 17C is unusable by the common man. In that sense form 17C is not needed, what is the needed is the raw data.
@coconutpunch123
@coconutpunch123 2 ай бұрын
The print half baked godi medua 😂
@Antony_Shamarjit_Lee
@Antony_Shamarjit_Lee 2 ай бұрын
He would've a great Chief Election Commissioner. But someone was not happy with his decent or accent regarding some political heavyweight. Thus he left for ADB under heavy pressure.
@kamleshkumardiwan
@kamleshkumardiwan 2 ай бұрын
हमारे विचार से लोकतंत्र में विपक्षी राजनीतिक दलों और बूथ एजेंट कार्यकर्ताओं से फार्म 17सी डाटा प्राप्त कर अपनी वेबसाइट पर संसदीय क्षेत्र बार अपलोड करने के कदम उठाने चाहिए उचित होगा धन्यवाद
@dattaprasadgodbole
@dattaprasadgodbole 2 ай бұрын
The headline is completely opposite of what was said by Mr. Ashok Lavasa.
@coconutpunch123
@coconutpunch123 2 ай бұрын
The print always twist. Its semi godi media
@prem007s
@prem007s 2 ай бұрын
me thinks ED got to sekar
@californiaBala
@californiaBala 2 ай бұрын
Parakala Prabhahar That's wisdom. Prashant Kishore is noise. That's Kurkshetra. The real fight is between Parakala Prabhahar and Prashant Kishore; not Modi vs Rahul. Prashant Kishore perspective is: 2014 Modi 2019 Modi 2024 Modi Parakala Prabhahar wisdom is: 2014 Modi BJP RSS People 2019 Modi BJP RSS ECI EVM 2024 Modi ECI EVM Right from Raja Hari Chandra Sathya has always been put to test. In one way, we need to thank Modi and Prashant Kishore; because of them we get to listen the wisdom from people living a life of character of integrity. As long as the fight was between Jayalalitha and Karunanidhi, people were the audience. Now, the Election Commission made the fight between Modi vs People. Jayanagar people would be on the road on June 4, 2024 to validate Form 17C.
@saranbhanupratap2909
@saranbhanupratap2909 2 ай бұрын
What he would tell ? 7 phase elections were conducted during his time'
@rashmikantdakshini8524
@rashmikantdakshini8524 2 ай бұрын
Really good feature with a fair reasonable discussion with honest rational views must be publised nd create awareness for the public. Kudos to mr Ashok Lavasa for being honest and transparent and candid 🎉
@kamleshkumardiwan
@kamleshkumardiwan 2 ай бұрын
माननीय श्री अशोक लवासा जी का द प्रिंट में स्वागत है अभिनंदन सादर नमस्कार
@amarsneh6548
@amarsneh6548 2 ай бұрын
Corporate funding to the political parties for elections should be stopped. There should be separate organization to collect the funds to distribute equal amount to all registered parties or organise common platform for parties to review the issues and give constructive plans instead organising rallies to exhibit their mussel power by harrassing the people in rallies and deployment of huge war like forces.
@alvitofernandesgraciano9820
@alvitofernandesgraciano9820 2 ай бұрын
Ashok Lavasa look avery honest and a man of his own,won't take shit from anyone thats the reason l think he resigned from ECI.
@coconutpunch123
@coconutpunch123 2 ай бұрын
The print twisted his words in favour of government
@Nurul_096
@Nurul_096 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic
@subramaniansasisekaran6937
@subramaniansasisekaran6937 2 ай бұрын
it is dishonest journalism to deliberately put title which id totally out of tune with the interview substance. Henceforth please put title mentioning interview with so and so. Questions are comprehensive and open unlike BJP biased media but why avoid names BJP and Modi; also try to summarise now and then differently than what is explicitly expressed as answer to questions?
@sunilsiv
@sunilsiv 2 ай бұрын
My guess is that the delay of four days to publish the consolidated data. In such cases, there is a very strong need to establish a very rigorous process of compiling data, and entering it into a computer system. This has to be accurate. Most common people do not understand what is done in such cases, unless they have been involved in such an exercise. Many would simply assume that the data can be entered and assumed to be accurate. However, there have to be checks and balances to ensure that there are no data entry errors caused intentionally or unintentionally! There are standard methods employed in such situations. These take time. When the CEC certifies such data, it is only when such checks have been completed. This clearly, is a case where the opposition parties are bringing up an objection for the purpose of discrediting the integrity of the elections and the CEC and the EC only to discredit the eventual outcome of the elections. When highly paid advocates like the ones involved are ready to take up such cases, it only makes them look silly to those who are keen political observers!
@Md-18sdv
@Md-18sdv 2 ай бұрын
Now all bhartiy knows Lefty hve always bharat virodhi bhartiy ppl dushmni. So don't worry print do what you want to do 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
@gurbachanakal7651
@gurbachanakal7651 2 ай бұрын
If u want more clarification, just ASK Mr T. SHESANour most respectable EC Retd(
@Wintersoider
@Wintersoider 2 ай бұрын
Very interesting conversation, so much learning insights! I have a small request could you ask on NOTA option, people think that this is useless.What, is his opinion about it. Thank you for a great conversation!
@johnicp6887
@johnicp6887 2 ай бұрын
But after all who select EC and CEC that settle their masters wishes.
@IamSuperman154
@IamSuperman154 2 ай бұрын
If there is no legal obligation, then even Supreme Court cannot force EC to release the data.
@janami-dharmam
@janami-dharmam 2 ай бұрын
On the same logic, they did provide in earlier elections these data even though there was no legal obligation. In other words, these data were published in earlier elections illegally. That means the previous elections and the actions by the ECI were not as per the law (same meaning as illegal) and by induction all their connected actions (including declaration of results)
@KavateJayesh
@KavateJayesh 2 ай бұрын
legal exploit :p
@romell3709
@romell3709 2 ай бұрын
Theirs no legal obligation to show driving license to a constable too
@coconutpunch123
@coconutpunch123 2 ай бұрын
He is talking about 17c forum. But he is clearly says total poll vote numbers should release
@PTSD..
@PTSD.. 2 ай бұрын
Only because there is no legal obligation, the SC can always enforce it in either "spirit of law", "constitutional right", "good faith", or any other interpretation. The ultimate right and obligation to interpret the law is with the SC.
@chandrashekarcs2034
@chandrashekarcs2034 2 ай бұрын
Sir as a voter I would like to ask you,what is the necessity of conducting Elections in 6 to 7 phases when it is told that EVMs are fast and occurate? I am 65 year old and I have seen Loksabha elections conducted in a qcick manner and results annonced quickly? What is the secret behind this?
@chandrashekarcs2034
@chandrashekarcs2034 2 ай бұрын
Why EVM elections are slower than Baller elections???!!
@Antony_Shamarjit_Lee
@Antony_Shamarjit_Lee 2 ай бұрын
He said the same thing.
@zamz4067
@zamz4067 2 ай бұрын
not possible sir if number shows BJP is loosing
@prem007s
@prem007s 2 ай бұрын
hey shekar what happened to your hyphenated journalsim is it bye bye
@udayan4644
@udayan4644 2 ай бұрын
Rightly he said.
@saranbhanupratap2909
@saranbhanupratap2909 2 ай бұрын
Ask ,How many notices were issued to modi during his tenure?
@mathewv.m8801
@mathewv.m8801 2 ай бұрын
The title and interview content is conflicting and confusing. Print to be careful.
@PravinPatel-ky6um
@PravinPatel-ky6um 2 ай бұрын
EC is working perfectly bonafide. There are certain notorious elements who always try to create controversy.
@macaulayhawkin6720
@macaulayhawkin6720 2 ай бұрын
Yeah seems to be bonafide by u andhbhakt
@PravinPatel-ky6um
@PravinPatel-ky6um 2 ай бұрын
Explain and justify how EVM can be tempered ??
@romell3709
@romell3709 2 ай бұрын
Mr LAvasa respects to you sir what a brave respected Indian salutes...butt you are scared now to call a spade a spade for obvious reason's
@manmohandaga
@manmohandaga 2 ай бұрын
Excellent clear transparent comments
@AftabAhmed-lq4iy
@AftabAhmed-lq4iy 2 ай бұрын
Not convincing replies… I think he’s scared
@rashmikantdakshini8524
@rashmikantdakshini8524 2 ай бұрын
The headline is misleading 🎉
@blackjacka5350
@blackjacka5350 2 ай бұрын
Now and the earlier system were transparent 😂😂😂 70 years mein yahi transparency laye hai… bol bachan
@blackjacka5350
@blackjacka5350 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 Cry People
@laxmananm6700
@laxmananm6700 2 ай бұрын
The notice to the heads of the parties for a vilation of a election canvaser is almost amount to giving notice to the head of family of an offenter which is not fair and such an act exposes the weakness of the prosecutor.Vilation of the model code of election cannot or should not be treated lightly . Because our country is basically a most diversified in communal, religious, custom and culture and so any utterances of a canvasser can not or should not be taken as a minor one because it shall result in social unrest and divide the voters on communal and caste basis like monorities and majorities which Shall harm our democracy for ever, . Henc such canvassing must be treated as murdering the democracy of our country and sever action must be taken against the canvassers Most of the speaches/ canvasses of PM Modijee were divisive and majoritarians vice minorities. So sending notice to the heads of the parties clearly indicates the master and servants relationship of PM and ECI and the code of conduct was vilatedby EC because the vilater was PM, in fact his actions were not as a PM but definitely as a BJP canvasser.
@irfanmomin3416
@irfanmomin3416 2 ай бұрын
Very nice Interview. Such a nice former election commissioner, Mr Lavasa. What a nice point, if they are giving percentage then there must be a number. Without number how we can calculate percentage. The more the transperancy the more there will be trust in the system. And why not to disclose tha data along with percentage. Is there any planning going on???
@reecosmicatomsb8576
@reecosmicatomsb8576 2 ай бұрын
You didn't ask when congress, communists, lunatic leftists were in power.😂😂
@coconutpunch123
@coconutpunch123 2 ай бұрын
​@@reecosmicatomsb8576Those days very next day after polling EC publish total poll votes data.till 2019 it was the norm. Have some knowledge id*ot
@prem007s
@prem007s 2 ай бұрын
wow that's a decade of waiting who are you people I and Nation wants to know😂
@prem007s
@prem007s 2 ай бұрын
​@reecosmicatomsb8576 for you
@irfanmomin3416
@irfanmomin3416 2 ай бұрын
Nice point sir, When tax concession is given to the donors then there identity is already disclosed. So true. Why not IT dept should display the list of companies given tax benefits??
@aakashPotter
@aakashPotter 2 ай бұрын
A diplomat speaking diplomatically.
@Raj-bm6vy
@Raj-bm6vy 2 ай бұрын
Ashok lavasa is too subtle. Looks like he fears backlash from the ruling party. The Selection committee for EC is totally unfair.. which he doesn't have guts to say upfront.. but just mincing words
@coconutpunch123
@coconutpunch123 2 ай бұрын
What he said is correct. He is less concerned about 17c forms but very clearly said total poll data numbers should publish
@sujithkumar2041
@sujithkumar2041 2 ай бұрын
The video title is entirely contradictory to the meat of Mr.Lavasa’s argument that EC should be more transparent as earlier. May be a click bait for The Prints majorly right wing audience.
@AMITKUMAR-nf8in
@AMITKUMAR-nf8in 2 ай бұрын
shameful media... wrong headline to grab attention. Former EC Ashok Lavasa has said that it was very much possible to tell the people through the media that this is the approximate number initially and the full data shall be made public soon as the data arrives to them. This is what he has said. shameful media.
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