Bleh not available in my region. Who even regions locks mobile games...

you should cover Palia, it's about to go into Open Beta

An MMO that releases as a HARCORE (one life) experience will solve the burn out and burn-through. You'll need friends and you'll need the community. And PvP will make the Headlines. ANNND whoever gets to the end of the season first gets an HJ.

Hat and Jacket😉

He was working on a Marvel MMO Champions Online was also a tab target game he was part of.....Best character creator in gaming......

Yea it was fun for a little while. Content drought caused a bunch of people to leave then servers struggled with balance and the devs fought with that until it died.

I normallt stay away from 40k titles theyre just not fun and a waste of money besides the board game

had crazy amounts of fun playing it with my dad when i was 8-10

@@Y0oUrMama 40k was always fun for me, until they introduced the most boring faction, the tyranids.

Warhammer Age of Reckoning is back with a private server Warhammer Return of Reckoning and its amazing. The team thats keeping it up is releasing new content and there is a good player base

Guild Wars 2 is literally built upon the foundation Warhammer Online created. Their dynamic event system was just a dressed up public quest system taken to the next step.

Sneaking over as witch elf into imperial territory, and charging alongside the Orcs into the Noobs? Priceless.

I was one of the first Orc Choppas to get max level .. and paired up with a witch elf, it was so broken. As soon as they saw me or my friend witch elf, allllll the Blaze Wizards focus fired us lol .... Good times =) Still the best fantasy pvp game imho. And I have played them all.

Warhammer Online is still one of my all time favorite Warhammer games to date. Also top MMO for me. We need a 40k MMO but done properly.

The thing for me is, 40K isn't funny, whereas the fantasy warhammer is. I LMAO playing Warhammer online and Return of Reckoning, but warhammer 40k is so serious

Return of Reckoning is trash😂😂 super dated. If your on Nostalgia Heroin it must be amazing

Its dated but its still ironically better than most modern mmos. Haha

i just reinstalled it and yes its an old game , but im having a blast (i played on release of warhammer o. too)

Id love to see em do a Lost Ark style MMO (but without all the garbage KR p2w systems) If its 40k, a grimdark Destiny 2 would be baller.

I agree. That said Mythics Warhammer Online art was still very nice and faithful. But damn i wish a Warhammer fantasy game would go with the tone of that Warhammer MMO by climax

@@MrLutharr ohh a grimdark 40k destiny 2 kind of a game oh man Im all in for it!!!

I mean, Fantasy isn't 40k. People exaggerate how dark the Fantasy setting is. Its a setting with American football as a sport lol.

Random chaos planet and war and battles on all sides

I would take a Battlefield 40K game

@@crocrox2273 sounds like planetside2

They had plans for that years ago and my god did it fail entirely, before it was anywhere close to done

For sure, I'll never forget... Played the 2h axe class with the pet and with that sick shoulder piece with the white lion head. Quick google search says it's White Lion, what a sick class name.

That game is a toxic grief fest😂😂 some of if the devs took part in that PvP toxic shenanigans. Nostalgia is a helluva drug

It's thee same stuff with Wildstar. What is with this ridiculous reivisionism? The games failed because they weren't good enough. Both because their focus wasn't what was going to get them players, and because they had issues internally. You want your MMO to survive? You don't focus on the PvP or "hardcore" elements. It's something people need to come to terms with because it's not going to change. The casual approach with sprinkles of hardcore is what you need, and if the vocal minority is so stupid they're going to lead people once again down that road, then enjoy your MMO being shut down so you can cry again about your nostalgia and how the game that just died was so far ahead of its time and that it was the best MMO ever made...

@@Ashelirria This. There's a reason why the TBC/WotLK Classic playerbase rivals the total WoW Retail playerbase. Going hard into class fantasy and simplicity, while also giving the player the power to effect REAL change in how they play their class... some people call this "casual" thinking but I call it making a good MMORPG.

Agreed.

Can you be specific about what questionable changes he made? Enhancement Diversification, AOE cap, aggro cap, the purple patch, and the Global Defense nerfs were not fun but they paved the way for the golden age of that game by making room for end game content and the incarnate system. And finally defenders and controllers were useful again instead of some fire tank just taking on missions made for a full party grabbing an entire mission full of mobs and stacking them in a dumpster to AOE them all down at once. It made running teams amazing because literally everyone was useful again. No longer was I look for specific AT and often specific power set combos to fill teams. Now it didn't matter what class or power set you were, you were useful on a team. Except Masterminds vs really high level content. But masterminds were so super good/broken at normal and mid to high level content it kinda balanced out.

If you didn't like all those changes though, go play the private City of Heroes Homecoming server. It's almost back to pre-ED days again. Melee (and blasters were heading in that direction) are ridiculously powerful again and only needs support classes for the absolute toughest content and everyone has been power creeped to heck. I ran teams on homecoming for awhile but eventually the power creep just got too much and it started to be hard to put together teams where 1-2 people were not hogging the entire mission to themselves and everyone else being just kind of there. Killing all the mobs, taking no damage, and the rest of the party gets to just watch. And the level at which that started kept creeping down, IIRC I was starting to see people occasionally hit that level of power at mid level 20s by the time I level. And you cant raise the difficulty enough to slow them down and challenge them without making everyone else just miss everything/die. As a team runner though, im done. If I can't ensure everyone my team has fun, not just specific archetypes/power sets, because the balance is broken then there is no place for me there.

Yep. His track record is questionable at best.

i mean it made a fuck tone of money

you weren't listening. the guy was talking about how many units it sold (which in itself is a success) as an indicator that there is still a huge demand for mmos. he didn't say anything about the state of the game, but as a lifelong mmo dev i'm guessing hes not unaware of the failures of new world

Man, I miss city if heroes and city of villains.

​@whitehuayra there are private severs now if you want to play. Homecoming, reborn thunder and a few others.

@@soulward6334 Fair warning to them though, Homecoming has seen significant power creep compared to the shutdown state of retail City of Heroes. Melee and Blasters are obscenely powerful now and support classes are basically not needed until extreme end game content.

Yeah!

I actually see this. 40K is just too big and nobody wants to admit it but Space Marines are so boring

He's not exactly known for loot boxes considering most of the games mentioned he worked on don't even have them lol.

@@Ralathar44 Every game he's been involved with since he left Paragon Studios and helped found Cryptic contained loot boxes. Neverwinter, Champions, and Star Trek Online are all games heavily driven by loot boxes - it's essentially the same system for all 3. He was CCO and then CEO for the launch of all 3. He became CEO of Daybreak in June 2016, and guess what? DCUO added loot boxes that August. :)

@@ihatevnecks7015 Weird, I played Champions Online and Neverwinter both for a good while and don't even remember loot boxes. I guess they were not really that relevant. Musta been like an ESO situation where they don't really matter at all. Star Trek Online definitely has loot boxes as a free to play game but I played that one for free happily for like a year. Ground combat sucked but all the ship stuff was great. Maybe instead of just saying "loot boxes" and screaming we need a little more nuance between games where loot boxes really don't matter (and are also free to play) and games where loot boxes are actually necessary for satisfying progression like Shadow of War or your average mobile game. Because just screaming "reeee lootboxes" doesn't really help. For the record I hate predatory lootboxes. But a lootbox isn't predatory by default. It's based on how it and the game its in is designed.

​@@Ralathar44gamers don't have nuanced opinions though. Things are either good or bad. It's why they get so mad if you criticise anything they like.

Im a fan of pet classes, especially if they aren't limited to just 1 or 2 pets. Mastermind was cool.

Whats bdo?

@@CptRonSolo Black Desert Online

No needing to memorize key combinations for skills, though.

have you followed Ashes of Creation at all?

For some reason, scifi is always a more niche genre than (high) fantasy... But I'd like to see base-building, resource management and simply just hauling cargo.

​@@DisgruntledDoomer You just expressed why it's more niche though. A fantasy game that can restrict you to a single landmass and have an easy "you're people who quest in dungeons" gameplay loop can have a much more manageable scope. Compare that to a scifi game where you're expecting multiple planets, base and ship building, resource management and transport, and all the other quirks of sci-fi.

@@ihatevnecks7015 Nah, I actually think it boils down to NPCs. It's easy to picture "evil and mindless" orcs as targets to slaughter, but what about scifi, where species are often sentient? It's a lot tougher to write and justify massacres like that. (However, WH40k is a clear exception here, because you can have hordes of orks, tyranids, necron, etc, as opponents, without really needing to justify anything.)

Agree, I would spend the rest of my life just for that.

I played a ton of the WAR private server (RoR) in 2020. They radically fixed PvP and progression. If the game had used that progression system at launch it would have been much better. Also the new version had the benefit of everyone having much more powerful PCs.

Not true, I'm one of those players that forms parties and goes through lesser run content. Like City of Heroes homecoming people run sewers and then power level in peregin island alot of times. But I ran alot of mission teams often playing through mission arcs and content people didn't even know existed or hadn't seen in forever. I got ALOT of positive feedback. Sometimes all it takes is 1-2 motivated players to save people from themselves lol.

I could see any of the IP being the one that gets picked. Fantasy for the release of Old World, 40k for the tv/movies coming, AoS because they wanna push that.

I agree though I’d say box price is full price + a required subscription then sell expansions on top of that. A low entry price and only a sub would open the gates to a possible cash shop.

initial price + subs is all they should be doing. Cash shop makes devs design around it which hurts the communities.

It's probably going to be Age of Sigmar.

40k boring af

I agree Nurgle's so insanely overused, but it's the same thing for Fantasy games. What do we fight in the two Vermintide games? Skaven teaming with Nurgle.