Absolutely, definitely a great dorm room, break room, piece. It’s on my list for my parents come the next holiday for sure. Thanks for sharing your experience!

@@Sprometheus it also makes me curious on how the illy capsule machines taste like

@@donh1572 I know absolutely nothing about them, haha. I remember seeing them and Nespresso did some kind of deal while back.

@@Sprometheus hate to admit this, but I tried the illy nespresso capsules on my daughters machine and actually found it pleasing. Once again not specialty espresso. But definitely better then most cafes. Matter of fact, if cafes can’t be bothered dialing great shots, they might as well serve nespresso instead of serving us the bitter or sour concoctions they pulled

You missed a group, people who don't have the time or effort towards making a real espresso but still want the options and the experience. That's a pretty huge market. Students would be a big set, you can't really do puck prep on a desk in your room and you certainly can't go out to clean everything afterwards. Other friends want good coffee in the morning before work but don't have the time to prepare then to clean. Poking one button fixes that issue too. Or myself, disability prevents me from even having filter coffee despite all the time in the world to waste yet I can press the button and the machine is clean. Then the idea that you can have a larger variety of flavours open without having multiple bags going stale, that you've got individual doses inside a nitrogen filled container staying fresher for longer, that's also very appealing. It's a pretty huge market if you consider the amount of people who could love good coffee and might want to explore the huge variety of flavours but don't want to add the entire long routine into getting a cup of coffee. Even my local speciality shop doesn't have the flavours I regularly explore. Though obviously the machine still won't do real espresso so it's not quite perfect. That said a lot of people I've spoken to would want it to replace a filter brewer or aeropress so that's often not even a problem.

Yeah I think this machine may be an intermediary between Nespresso and a true espresso machine, but it’s at least a step in the right direction as it uses specialty coffee and not commodity grade beans bought and roasted in mass.

The crema from an original machine is much closer to traditional crema from a real espresso machine. The reason the virtuo machines "crema" is mostly air is because it uses the psychotic spinning technique to extract the coffee as opposed to pressure. The original line does use pressure.

@@JamesNestaCirrito I believe they fill the capsules with nitrogen. Reading numerous sources it may not even be the nitrogen. The crema is fake even with the original.

For sure, maybe a few years ago I would’ve turned my nose up at the proposition of this machine, but as I’ve matured as a coffee lover I’ve come to appreciate it in most of its forms, respect what people like and enjoy. I don’t ever want to gatekeep someone’s coffee.

@@Sprometheus this is why you’re one of my favourite coffee channels. Keep up the good work 🙏

@@matthewdegroot1985 will do, thank you for the kind words!

@@Sprometheus yes second their comment, I do enjoy your content because it's understandable and I feel like I don't need to know aton of coffee science to enjoy the videos. I do find them enjoyable as someone who's been into specialty coffee for like 1½ year

Thank you my friend! And absolutely, I’m 100% with you. It makes a great after dinner machine when I’m too full and lazy to make coffee haha.

Try cometeer coffee.

@@canucklostintheusa5306 I’ve done two videos on Cometeer, I’m a fan.

@@Sprometheus Great vids. They really do a great job for a quick cup in the morning for those early meetings and I can still enjoy that complexity of a light roast without the process of pour over/espresso prep. Recyclable capsules and they showcase different roasters allowing newbies to try different coffee varietals and different roasters.

Since its Nespresso pod compatible you should be able to use any of the reusable pods available for them on the market.

For sure, they definitely aren’t a direct replacement, but an interesting concept none the less.

@@Sprometheus - Which of the various capsules that you tried did you dislike the least?

@@cheekster777 haha interesting way of putting it. I actually thought the One & Only from Morning’s own roastery was the tastiest of the group.

@@Sprometheus - Thanks for always replying and have yourself a wonderful weekend, my friend. 😉

It would definitely be a good fit there. And the nice thing is, you can kind of dip your toe into the depths when you want to. Being able to dial-in capsules is new ground for sure

I haven’t, but I am curious about them. I may see if I can get some and load my own.

I'm also really curious about them. Given the price (Under $400) and the feature set (PID, flow and pressure profiling), if you could use freshly ground coffee from any roaster with good results, well this would be less "an overpriced Nepresso machine" and more "a Decent that can only pull single shots." But that is rather a huge if.

@@Sprometheus I don’t know how good they are, but I’ve seen them hanging on the sides of the grocery isles in Walmart.

Haha as good as it gets that’s for sure!

Yeah it’s definitely a great morning rush machine!

you would be better off with something like a Jura that has a build in grinder and can do everything for you instead of an espresso machine. Nespresso gets you half way there for less money.

Or maybe you don’t notice it. I shoot all the coffee in 4k60 and me talking in 4k23

@@Sprometheus I could swear on coffee messiah hoffmann on this that it's all 60 :D

@@Sprometheus Looks fine to me. Thanks for the video!

as long as the capsules are not plastics that cannot be processed, I dont see any issues.

@@Cenot4ph I agree, you don't see the issue. Capsules/pods are the coffee equivalent of a cling wrapped peeled apple. It's a solution to a problem that didn't exist. An answer to a question asked by a marketing department, but not by coffee drinkers. Sure, one could make an argument for them but it'd probably be a bad one.

That’s called Optimal Extraction, it’s pretty useful since I don’t want to fumble about with formulas and calculators.

@@Sprometheus Looks great, unfortunately no Android version.

Since its Nespresso pod compatible, you should definitely be able to use the reusable pods

Not these ones, that burnt flavor from your standard Nespresso is the dark roast inside.

@@Sprometheus Nespresso has many variants, not just dark roast. That's from 10 years ago.

Well the cost depends where you are and how it translates to the Singapore dollar. In the US it’s $350ish, which is less than most of your average entry level espresso machines.

@@Sprometheus Ah okay, I checked from EU and it was 570 USD. Well cool it exists but not for me.

It should, it’s compatible with Nespresso so it should work with refillable Nespresso pods.

Not following how this is gatekeeping, it’s essentially the opposite. And this solves one major problem with Nespresso in my mind, the coffee. Which for Nespresso is commodity grade and likely allows them to underpay at origin to the farmers. Specialty coffee on the other hand is better not only in quality, but allows farmers to make more money per pound.

There are plenty of espresso machines with these features, it’s just kind of wild to see it with a capsule machine. And yeah, it is Nespresso compatible, but not technically a Nespresso machine. It’s made by a complete different company with a specialty focused vision.

@@Sprometheus totally agree, but in what price range do I need to buy espresso machines in order to get these features? 🙂

@@paviaaPS3 way more than what this costs, the morning is $350USD, a pressure profiling machine is like $1500+ USD

You can add pressure profiling to many machines via simple dimmer mod if you’re handy though.

@@Andrew-wp1bz I just can’t find a good dimmer here in Denmark

Yeah, the waste produced is the major downfall of instant and pods, some are biodegradable and most are recyclable, but they relies on the end user and their local recycling abilities.

my god, you people never cease to amaze me. Complain with everyhing, but in the meantime also produce waste left right and center. This attitude destroys the planet, not the waste.

Something I can't quite grasp... Every third or fourth post mentions Nespresso and how people hate them; the evil behind Nestlé and I don't know what else. Don't get me wrong - I'm not a Nespresso rep (😆😆), but people make idiots of themselves; showing how uninformed they actually are. Most people here would probably tell you they just LOVE Häagen Dazs ice cream. Well, good for them; glad they like it... Hope they slam Häagen Dazs just as hard as Nespresso; both just being different labels to the same company. They moan and groan about the evil sitting behind Nespresso/Nestlé...but even without knowing it - keep adding fuel to the tank that keeps the fire burning 😆

it's the typical attitude we've come to expect in this day and age, everything produces waste we just need to find ways to deal with it better.

Sure, go ahead and buy me one.

@@Sprometheus Ok! I’m thinking Rode PodMic + Focusrite Scarlett. PM me with a delivery address and I will send it via Amazon! Your material is so good, it is a crime to compromise its sound quality!

The biggest issue is the costs of compostable and biodegradable options is so much higher, for most small roasters that cuts deeply into an already small profit margin. The major shift needed is making things that are more sustainable more reasonable cost wise, just look at most cafes that charge extra for alternative milks.

@@Sprometheus yup, I have a small roasting company but I'm still using those bags. Similar to paying fair wages, it really should be a requirement. Increasing bag price by $0.40 will take care of that. $0.40 was very noticable when specialty coffee was $10 a bag. Not so much now.

@@Sprometheus I really think it's more that the mass market coffee is too cheap and the bags that aren't sustainable are too cheap. Specialty, actual fair trade coffee isn't too expensive. It's what it should cost. It's the other stuff that's too cheap

relax, everything has waste. We just need to worry about how to process it properly.

@@Cenot4ph While we figure that out, we're busy perpetually making the problem worse. There's already an answer to this problem...

True. Beans to Cup machined are phenomenal but high start up cost :(

You dont get it, but some people like the convenience and have this over bean machines.

@@Cenot4ph what is the convenience of a capsule machine over a superautomatic?

@@Lorenzo1972. long shelf life, and easier to operate

@@Cenot4ph Superautomatics require a single button push - and rather than drink something with a long shelf life (no such thing - you mean stale) you can drink coffee that was roasted fresh. There is zero benefit to capsules over super-automatics other than initial price. In under two years, you’ll make that money back by paying half as much for your coffee (the markup of coffee in a capsule is 2x over whole bean coffee). Honestly - someone like Sprometheus or James Hoffman should take on the challenge to kill the capsule industry. Like really…talk about something that is an utter waste of the planet’s resources when there is a better alternative that is just as easy.