First Look At The EU5 MAP, POPS & STARTING DATE (Not 1444)

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2 ай бұрын

In this video titled First Look At The EU5 MAP, POPS & STARTING DATE (Not 1444) I discuss the latest Dev Diaries posted on the PDX forums that by now everyone basically knows is about EU5.
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@TheRedHawk 2 ай бұрын

What do you think about today’s topic? Leave a comment here!

@AGryphonTamer 2 ай бұрын

I'm really nervous about the increase in complexity. EUIV has a massive barrier to entry as it is, and I'm wondering how all these new things are going to help with that. I don't want more to micromanage.

@spaceDumps 2 ай бұрын

I'm cautiously very excited and optimistic. The way they describe the population as being a "background" element you can see but don't directly take actions upon seems like a great way to limit things from being overly "gamey" - i.e. manpower comes from your people instead of a magic box. I especially look forward to integrating newly conquered territory by granting privileges to the upset conquered local elites or migrating in my own settlers or elevating their culture, etc, rather than just clicking a magic "make core" button and waiting 2 years. Regarding what you mentioned about whether the performance degrades when the world population grows in late game: with the way they describe the system, it shouldn't matter at all. Early game you have 70,000 people in London divided into, say, 7 different "pops", while late game you have 2 million people still divided into the same "pops". When you take some action that affects all the non-noble "pops" in London it is still the same number of code operations, 1 per "pop", regardless of whether the population value for those pops is high or low. Cultures/religions dying out and new ones appearing through the game, and the spread/expulsion of pops into other provinces will change the total number of pops, but the total number between game start and end wouldn't change so much that it alters performance.

@swissdave9489 2 ай бұрын

Anyone know which country RedHawk is from?

@dpad_ 2 ай бұрын

@@swissdave9489 czechia

@MahsaKaerra 2 ай бұрын

One thing I am wondering, with the way sea tiles are being changed... An changes to how climate and terrain is going to be mapped. Do you suppose they're going to have a mechanic for warm water ports / cold water ports? One of the driving forces behind Russian expansionism during the Europa Universalis time period was access to warm water ports, through which shipping can pass year-round. As contrasted to much of their "coastline" which is frozen during some months. And I think it would be pretty awesome to represent that for the AI, or prompt a human player to act in that way without a mission tree.

@joshpineau405 2 ай бұрын

Can't wait for the red hawk to finish a-z in EU4 only for EU5 to release

@TheRedHawk 2 ай бұрын

I’m gonna do literally every single country in EU5

@sarcasm9969 2 ай бұрын

@@TheRedHawk27k locations could mean accurate HRE

@tuxtitan780 2 ай бұрын

@sarcasm9969 that's a free 300 videos right there lol (I forget how many nations there were in the hre I think it was around 300)

@joshpineau405 2 ай бұрын

@@tuxtitan780 it would have to be unique national ideas and there is no way that paradox is doing that.

@tuxtitan780 2 ай бұрын

@joshpineau405 I mean there doesn't HAVE to be. Given Paradox's recent history, I wouldn't be suprised that they make an accurate hre, then give everybody in kt the same national ideas minus the biggest and most important of the bunch, then update the hre slowly over many years. That is if they even keep national ideas the same

@ARN012 2 ай бұрын

I accidently clogged the office toilet today 😭

@ayoplo 2 ай бұрын

And Red Hawk hasn't covered this story? I expected better

@hambra123 2 ай бұрын

Condolences brother, i really hope you can move on from this tragedy.

@LoanSharkTheFirst 2 ай бұрын

BASED

@heejadeetorn753 2 ай бұрын

Based

@CharlesIsMyName 2 ай бұрын

Whilst watching the video?

@user-xh9td7ts1l 2 ай бұрын

Miaphysitism was in EU4, it was just called Coptic.

@otavioholz1017 2 ай бұрын

Johann said in a response that ulm would be the size of a location instead of province so if this is EUV we can expect the historically accurate HRE

@jenshendrickx2230 2 ай бұрын

oh god no does that mean voltaire's nightmare in vanilla EUV?

@greenrocket23 2 ай бұрын

@@jenshendrickx2230OH YEAH BABY, VOLTAIRE IN SHAMBLES RIGHT NOW 🤣

@daunchannel3377 2 ай бұрын

-60 fps

@NP3GA 2 ай бұрын

@@jenshendrickx2230or, hear me out, the guys that made Voltaire's nightmare would now make a eu5 version. With even more detail.

@rolandorodriguez4504 2 ай бұрын

@@jenshendrickx2230I would imagine they would optimize it

@user-se6kc9wc4o 2 ай бұрын

EU4 2 looks promising so far

@cinnanyan 2 ай бұрын

The start date seems to be sometime around 1340 from all of the hints that were given. That banner map has Yuan (not Ming), big Khmer, seems to be before Bahmani and Jaunpur Sultans broke away from Delhi. The Byzantines suffered a major civil war and collapse in 1341, and this seems to be right on the precipice of that, judging by the population size and demographics.

@empiricalmadman3260 2 ай бұрын

Can’t wait for March of the Eagles II

@noahengelstad1253 2 ай бұрын

I think from the pop map provided, the start date is not 1356 but a little afterward. Khmer is still large in southeast Asia, and since many nations are independent in South India, this is in the era of the decline of the Delhi Sultanate. Persia is too disunited to be in the reign of Timur or his successors. I think the start date is from 1360 to 1380.

@Unnecesary_Grik 2 ай бұрын

As an Arvanite i can confirm we are a minority in greece (currently integated into the greek community) and we come from mercenaries and migration of south albanians into Peloponnese peninsula and attica like 500 years ago.

@SquirrelMaestro 2 ай бұрын

Came and commented as well as just a person with Greek ancestry but seeing as how you’re arvanite you know more than me😂

@rmummery2117 2 ай бұрын

People on Reddit were theorizing 1337 as the start date. The political map of India lines up pretty well although not perfect while 1337 is an important year because it marks the start of the 100 Years’ War in Europe.

@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 2 ай бұрын

Wait, didn't the Yuan dynasty own Tibet in 1337 or am I misremembering

@Napkin05 2 ай бұрын

@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500I played Ck2 and I can confirm they own Tibet in 1337 (latest start date in ck2)

@maxsmith8196 2 ай бұрын

leet

@jamy30 2 ай бұрын

The map of India correlates exactly with 1346, which is also the first year the plague hits Europe. I think that would be a great start date tbh

@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 2 ай бұрын

@@jamy30 Lan Xang declared independence in 1353-1354 though

@josephcola9662 2 ай бұрын

I just wanna say, while I definitely belive that it's EU5, if it turns out not to be, looking back at these videos and their titles a year from now will be absolutely hilarious.

@TheRedHawk 2 ай бұрын

It’s a risk I’m willing to take lmao

@josephcola9662 2 ай бұрын

@TheRedHawk I'm just imagining that if it's not EU5, the guys at PDX are watching these and just cackling with glee.

@safs3098 2 ай бұрын

It’s almost impossible not to be EU5 from the clues that show the start date being in the 14th century. Unless they decide to create an entirely different IP based in the same timeframe as EU4

@user-xh9td7ts1l 2 ай бұрын

They moved many EU5 discussions from EU4 forum to Tinto talks forum, it is basicaly confirmed at this point.

@TheHumanStoryYT 2 ай бұрын

3:40. The Appalachian Mountains are not that tall. They also have a lot of passes through them that enable many to traverse through the mountain chain during winter. Makes sense to me.

@Aaronschannels 2 ай бұрын

Can confirm, currently sitting on top of a Mountain in southern Appalachia

@linguotgr 2 ай бұрын

Im not against pops as a game mechanic, in fact I think it sounds really cool... but I feel like every game Paradox puts out that has problems with the end game crashing or becoming unplayably laggy comes down to pops hoging way too much of your CPU resources. It usually gets fixed at some point, so maybe they know how to do it right from the get-go this time, but I just have a sinking feeling that the game will have a year or two of "beta testing" before it becomes playable. I am glad they are addressing that concern here, so I guess I will try to stay cautiously optimistic.

@MIKAEL212345 2 ай бұрын

"but I just have a sinking feeling that the game will have a year or two of "beta testing" before it becomes playable" You mean like every single paradox game?

@android175 2 ай бұрын

This was addressed, vic2 had more interactions with pops and isnt a lag, especially since it was Not multi treated. The game will run fine, and if it doesn’t, it wont be because of pops

@Jarekx2007 2 ай бұрын

@@MIKAEL212345 Don't forget the most important part: a couple hundred dollars of essential DLC too

@IslandHermit 2 ай бұрын

I'm fine with population being an underlying mechanic used to drive various aspects of the simulation. I just don't want to have to micromanage them directly.

@MrBattlecharge 2 ай бұрын

I'm also looking forwards to it. I'd rather have buildings like Churches slowly spread and change religion by percentage and having a sliding modifier system for the location/province/area than just "it is or it isn't"

@MrBattlecharge 2 ай бұрын

Me too! I'd rather have things like religion in a location/province/area be a percentage system with a sliding modifier output rather than "it is or it isnt"

@yeen4204 2 ай бұрын

seems like tinto is on the same page as you based on how they described pops, so im excited.

@lukalegcevic5300 2 ай бұрын

It's probably 2nd half of 14th century, judging by Delhi map, could also be 1399 like it was in EU3, but that could be a bit too late for that map

@noahengelstad1253 2 ай бұрын

In the case of 1399, Persia would be united under Timur

@kuhluhOG 2 ай бұрын

from a German KZfaqr (who is REALLY into history to a point where I believe he is a historian): it's either going to be early 14th century or late 15th century purely because of the population of China but because of the Andalusian people in Tarratoga, it can't really be the latter one

@taherbertolinirodrigues9104 2 ай бұрын

Can’t wait to play solely byzantium in eu5 just like i do in eu4

@septillion. 2 ай бұрын

Assuming that this is for an entire country (it is likely, given the numbers), the population chart/display shown at the bottom is of Byzantium. The number of people is over one million, mostly Greek. It is fair to assume these numbers represent countries at the start date since I doubt the game is even at a playable state where they could run through conquest campaigns to get this far. This means that the game will likely not take place in 1444 like EU4, and instead will likely take place before the complete downfall of the Byzantine empire, likely to be in the 1300s. The population map further backs this idea up, as you can see a very large nation encompassing a large portion of northern and central India, which might be some sort of representation of the Delhi sultanate. If this is true, this will mean that we have a large, but crumbling Yuan empire at the start date, and instead of a powerful Ottomans at start date, we will instead have a lot of Turkish tribes and the ability to form the Ottomans with any of them. This would also be before the Timurids formed, so a gameplay path would be to form them and then later in the game deal with the instability problems.

@damianmares5338 2 ай бұрын

1337 circulated lately in the EU4 subreddit and I tend to agree with it . The chart also supports it, since having 1milion+ people in a Greek state heavily suggests that, and the date when the Byzantine Empire would have a sizeable bulgarian minority and some arvanite and aromanians by holding territory in central and northern greece, while not having a noticeable turkish minority from being in proximity with a strong Ottoman Empire ( and getting quite a few turkish inhabitants from supporting some ottoman princes to the throne of the empire on a few occasions).

@manzid 2 ай бұрын

EU VI when?

@leviathan574 2 ай бұрын

Only after the 2033 incident...

@luckyluke5527 2 ай бұрын

Maybe before GTA VI

@HypercopeEmia 2 ай бұрын

33:33 there is lan xang and a fairly small khmer but not aythaya suggesting a start date close to but not before 1350, the mess in iran seems like the collapse of the ilkhanate around 1345 and in india there is the delhi sultanate before it's (total) collapse and what we might be seeing is the Ekdala War or right before it which started in 1353

@HypercopeEmia 2 ай бұрын

Also This looks far too historically accurate to be an ongoing game, even more so considering how unfinished eu5 systems are likely to be

@Patrick-wy4op 2 ай бұрын

Could be wrong but the most recent dev diary showing anatolia implies 1337 due to the outline of Serbia, byzantium and the ottomans

@unstable_7071 2 ай бұрын

I hope eu5 has a good tech system

@classiclife7204 2 ай бұрын

CK4 looks great

@jordancantrell6598 2 ай бұрын

Appalachian here, very old mountains, small. Lots of Valleys. Lots of passes. I wouldn’t consider them wasteland or impassible at all. It would be fair to put them in a “Hills” category depending on where you’re at. Rockies are like 3 times as tall and 5 times as treacherous.

@MrPantheraUmbra 2 ай бұрын

I am actually very happy with earlier start date. I prefer it. It gives more playable options. Balkan nations on more equal footing vs Anatolia. You can have dominant Balkan nation to rise to power and dominate Balkans and Anatolia, or you could be some other beylik to rise to power instead of Ottomans.

@ajsouza3720 2 ай бұрын

Heck actually playing as the Ottomans would be a fun campaign instead of being comically OP at the start date.

@lpvrooom6714 2 ай бұрын

Pops would make me excited to swap over into eu5

@Geswert72 2 ай бұрын

It looks pretty cool, and I appreciate the dev diary to tell us their thinking. My only concern is that this sounds an awful lot like Vic III. Or Imperator. I don't know if I like all of their games having basically the same template but with additional features/gimmicks to differentiate for setting. I'd like them to be more distinct from one another.

@anon-xc9fi 2 ай бұрын

Most likely I’m thinking 1337 tbh, or close too it? 100 year war event is close and the Indian sub continent looks eerily similar, also lots of world events and empire are beginning to fall, could force many events, so honeslty believe it should be around the early 1300’s probs between 1325-1337/-44 at latest I’d think?

@jameskowanko7574 2 ай бұрын

This is 100% EU5 or a game which fills that role with a different name. I mean why else would there burghers and nobles? There is no only setting for that other than the early modern era.

@jasonmain6398 2 ай бұрын

Vicky 4 confirmed. Maybe we were loud enough demanding that we can move our armies so they just made a whole new game lol

@holydoggo4822 2 ай бұрын

was wondering when you would look at the other posts! new tinto-talk tomorrow if its every Wednesday!

@Jojogrec 2 ай бұрын

I really like pretty much all the presented features. The only thing I'm currently worried about is being able to quickly get an overview of each population group in every location; it could result in a lot of head counting depending on what other features they have for understanding them as well as to what degree knowing that information would be relevant. (I would however probably end up counting numbers for different groups to a certain degree regardless.) I hope they have several ways for viewing with groups added together, such as being able to see the total for all people of each class in a location together (without having to yourself calculate their average satisfaction etc) as well as, when viewing a province (and higher), being able to see the corresponding group of people from each location added together.

@ursulcx299 2 ай бұрын

The appalachian are rough, but aside from a few spots they aren't super high and more importantly they're very thin with a lot of easy pass and valley. I'm not an expert so I can't say how accurate they made it, but it gives the feel of what I remember of them from bike training camps. (Also its the Pyrennean between France and Spain, tho you'll be forgiven for not remebering a name)

@Smileyreal 2 ай бұрын

It's very worth going through all of Johan's comments on the tinto talks posts. A lot of things have been confirmed, like how the game won't have vic3 combat. You can also own individual locations and borders are drawn along those, so locations seem to just be provinces but smaller.

@DaDunge 2 ай бұрын

5:15 Those are areas of prevailing winds, up north you have the westerlies, closer to the equator you have the trade winds.

@alexmarshall9770 2 ай бұрын

Look at the Kingdom of Delhi in 1340, matches the Indian pop screenshot perfectly

@SNWWRNNG 2 ай бұрын

There will hopefully be multiple start dates, like in EUIV and CKIII. A few are so much better than just having one, to offer something familiar and also something fresh.

@Seer_Of_The_Woodlands 2 ай бұрын

maps can never be too detailed. Great Video !

@andreaemma74 2 ай бұрын

Never could get into eu4 because of all the dlcs, but I would be really open to trying the series out once 5 drops

@Krisbu 2 ай бұрын

Those trade routes would be a fun deep dive for bird's eye channel and how important they were in antiquity

@sinistrodellamorte 2 ай бұрын

The map of Sweden that shows up between 6:20 and 10:20 is made in Inkarnate. I would recognize that font anywhere! So don't worry about the map and the gray lines, it's probably just the new map being overlaid on another texture!

@Kolsedy 2 ай бұрын

I think the start date is like late 1330s or early 1340s from the map of India and also from the pie chart image because if it's 1356 Byzantines are in a bad shape they Constantinople , adrionopolis and Thessaloniki and surrounding areas and they were also severely affected by black death which means they definitely didn't have pop over 1 million so I think start date in before Byzantine civil of 1340s . Also miaphysites is ideology of coptics and Armenian apostolic Church in eu4 it's just called Coptic when in reality copts are only present in Egypt so it's not a new religion just a name change

@leviathan574 2 ай бұрын

They should add one nestorian/syriac province in east syria.

@Kolsedy 2 ай бұрын

@@leviathan574 I think there will be oriental churches other than miaphysites considering there is atleast 24000 land "locations" and if lucky there might be also one in India in Kerala region .

@antevernersson7387 2 ай бұрын

Love these analysis videos, by the best EU4 youtuber

@jameshoare6531 2 ай бұрын

Cool to see the trade routes through the Sahara desert. I wonder if armies will be able to traverse these our just trade. Maybe very high attrition or small armies only.

@triplesharigan 2 ай бұрын

First off when I saw the Sahara, first thing that came to mind where trade routes and i'm hyped about that. The 50K locations. I would say there are less provinces then you think. Each location in their context means every sea tile that you move along, every passageway that cant be directly controlled. These add up real fast. Still probably an increase but not as big.

@MrFlame160 2 ай бұрын

Watching an India every year video, that population map and that large Delhi Sultanate seems to be around the 1340s. After that they lose the southern most part to Bahmanis. It’s also around when they seem to have lost the eastern most part that gave them access to the coast there. Again, this is just based off a videos Ollie Bye, so I don’t know how accurate it really is.

@haruharii 2 ай бұрын

super excited for a new starting date, but maybe theyll also have a 1444 start date

@novesspl5061 2 ай бұрын

Now you got me hyped

@noah2774 2 ай бұрын

My initial thought was the pop's map is the Maratha Confederacy. That would mean the screenshot could have been taken in like the 1600's, so maybe it's a screenshot from what's supposed to be midgame?

@DavidWillisSLS 2 ай бұрын

31:44 or a Byzantium that still had its cores ;) My bet is that we’re in the reign of Andronikos III, after Anatolia is lost, but before Greece and lower Bulgaria are taken away This also lines up with the 1300s prediction from the commenter 33 minutes in based on the population map. I think that’s it. A Byzantium that controls all of Greece and lower Bulgaria, ruled by Andronikos III

@ajsouza3720 2 ай бұрын

I think it might be a scenario where Andronikus III's death leads to a civil war disaster that without player intervention finishes off the Byzantines and gives the Ottomans their chance to tale Gallipoli

@DavidWillisSLS 2 ай бұрын

@@ajsouza3720 that’s a really good theory

@kalebjohnson3410 2 ай бұрын

I really like them including wasteland sea tiles as that could help make naval combat (if they have it) more interesting

@Duke_of_Lorraine 2 ай бұрын

The "passes" terrain type may prevent some common EU4 sights like Bengal conquering China through the Himalayas.

@elnuralymkulov5069 2 ай бұрын

In the map, you can see that Yunnan(Dali kingdom) is independent. So probably between 1340-1380, after the fall of the Yuan dynasty ming regained control over Yunnan after conquest in 1380s

@Toc_Nguyen 2 ай бұрын

Exactly! Yunnan gained "independence" in 1368 from the mongols, and was conquered by the Ming dynasty in 1381. The Screenshot cannot be from earlier than 1368 and later than 1381.

@LadrixiaThorne 2 ай бұрын

Looked around the internet a bit. Going by the population numbers and the estimated population of Constantinople and the different cultures it feels like it's 1347 (looking at Voltaires Nightmare starting maps), so I'd guess around that time.

@annayosh 2 ай бұрын

By comparing the map of Asia with the 'The history of the world - every year' video here on KZfaq, I'd say the time period seems to be somewhere between the fall of of the Ilkhanate in 1335 and the forming of the Bahmani Sultanate in 1347. Looking at history, a possible starting point would be the start of the Hundred Years War in 1337.

@lionelmourilio 2 ай бұрын

6:05 I guies this is dope and historically more accurate!For example in semi-nomadic societies of medieval Central Asia, nomads like Chaghatay xan for example, lived in steppes that were situated around big cities like Almaliq in Ili Valey which at their time was ruled by a local seminomadic and settled population.

@communisthedgehog6651 2 ай бұрын

Imagine if this turns out to be March Of The Eagles II lol

@korvasterindar9672 2 ай бұрын

I know this probably won't happen in EU 5, but I would like to have some kind of custom culture or custom religion maker, something to go along with the custom nation maker that was present in EU4. I mean, it would be nice to create an entirely unique nation and culture and religion the play around with rather than just choosing one of those pre-made ones. I'm pretty sure that won't factor in but it would still be nice

@DaDunge 2 ай бұрын

The pop systme sounds like everything I've asked for.

@SeaByrd94 2 ай бұрын

I think it would be really cool for the map to be a globe; with moving water/weather and a lot of living terrain up close that could zoom out to what looks like to one of those antique globes with borders for nations. Way back when I started playing Eu4 I downloaded a mod that made the water semitransparent with moving waves/reflections. Even though it lagged horribly It looked awesome, I could never find it again tho.

@perturbedbatman2009 2 ай бұрын

I’m interested in the start date, for sure, but also for how long it will play. Because literacy and people “being aware of their social status” is akin to the Victorian era political landscape. EU4 ends in 1821 (an already daunting end-date for many), so I wonder what the planned end-date is without it necessarily interfering with Vicky 3.

@diegoidepersia 2 ай бұрын

Hey about that political map thing you complained about on imperator, there is a map mode that makes them non transparent but you have to add it as its not one of the few default ones, like theres a little cog next to the map where you add some mostly less relevant map modes

@hexapodc.1973 2 ай бұрын

I feel like the last two countries that you showed in the population numbers map are the khmer empire and delhi sultunate, both of which had borders like that in the late 1300's, not rhe 1400s

@Warrenbowser3 2 ай бұрын

Very hyped for CK4

@Toc_Nguyen 2 ай бұрын

The screenshot of the population map is a random date, way later than any other promotional material, as the Yunnan province is a separate country from China Yunnan gained "independence" in 1368 from the mongols, and was conquered by the Ming dynasty in 1381. The Screenshot cannot be from earlier than 1368 and later than 1381.

@derekskelton4187 2 ай бұрын

I would find it very funny if it was Europa Universalis: Rome 2, and all the Imperator hype was intentional. Would require a weird start date, but it could technically work

@nicholasthegreatogreking1036 2 ай бұрын

A mechanic should be in place where it limits the amount of units within a province or area, and pass a certain point the maintenance cost will increase making it more realistic since food will need to be transported there

@maraaeria7054 2 ай бұрын

Kutch is an island on the old maps because of seasonal flooding that comes in the salt swamps surrounding it.

@StArShIpEnTeRpRiSe 2 ай бұрын

13:16 The Charpatians get some. In EU4 it's basicly a defense wall to Hungary but now it looks clearly passable.

@4boutFootball 2 ай бұрын

Can you make a world conquest with an empire like Muscovy or Ottoman or Lithuania because I saw your video W C with Ottoman, and I see now that there was an update for missions. And it's kinda hard to stick to your vids In general I would be happy to see a World Conquest with any nation in EU4, great vids keep it up

@q2yogurt 2 ай бұрын

I agree with Ludi this is probably 1356 - the year of Golden Bull of Charles IV

@ScarTalon 2 ай бұрын

i had this pop up in my recommended, and i havent played eu4 in awhile. I'm confused though, isnt eu4 still not a fully finished game? Are they stopping work on eu4 to make this potential eu5? or how does that work?

@matthewsteele99 2 ай бұрын

30:00 those religions are in EU4 but only appear via transfer from a CK2 save

@dragonrykr 2 ай бұрын

29:20 Arvanites are an ethnic group related to Albanians living in Central Greece. They are still present to this day, and known as Arvanitika 31:50 also it's very likely that the start date will be way before 1444, which yesterday's dev diary kind of cemented even more

@Momon696 2 ай бұрын

The paradox must add a true and impactful system that is truly historical and realistic in wars that change and modify the productivity of the population, culture, ethnicity, would obviously be rape This mechanic would provide new opportunities to create new ethnicities, religions, and friendly cultures.

@Argacyan 29 күн бұрын

Transparent terrain in political mapmode feels like something that should be an option, or that modders will do if not. I have a mod for that in Eu4 and sometimes I enable it, sometimes not based on mood.

@Jamie-st6of 2 ай бұрын

i think the pop types and map shown are enough to have a strong argument that the game takes place during the early modern period. whether or not it is eu5 or will be a different game remains to be seen (though i agree it's most likely eu5)

@mies1mies 2 ай бұрын

If we look at irl china territory than we can figure it out more precisely it is around the year 1351 because irl china had than around the number you see on the map

@linkhidalgogato 2 ай бұрын

Kutch was surounded by permanent salt marsh until 1819 and it was depicted on maps as an island until that point so i think its reasonable

@MrBattlecharge 2 ай бұрын

Personally, I like the idea of having something smaller than a province. Might mean you can have groups of "locations" in a province, which each act and grow independently and have changing needs, outputs and patterns. Like Empire : Total War, where as the cities of a province grew you could specialize them into manufacturing, research, espionage, etc., and their growth rates were affected on their individual natures as well as the nature of the province, country, region, etc.

@MrBattlecharge 2 ай бұрын

I would really like them to have the ability to resize/add provinces (by adding or taking away "locations") and to build new "locations", which would make for interesting colonizing. I also think it would make for great mods! You could clear the world, start the player out with one "location" randomly in the world way back in time, and then through events other peoples settle "locations" which intermingle and push outwards and builds culture! Think Civilization games, where you have to start as a people erecting their first settlement snd then building a country and finding others, defending themselves, progressing forwards, etc.

@yeen4204 2 ай бұрын

seems like it's basically the same system as imperator (but with more detail) and i loooooveeee imperator's map. eu5 seems to be taking a lot of the best aspects of imperator so i'm quite excited.

@LoliPolice-bf7mw 2 ай бұрын

Paradox is likely adding pops to all of their games in order to sell converter (ck3 - eu4/eu4-vic3) dlcs while also selling more copies of games since people usually wanna see just how much they can do with their nation. With pops people feel as if they actually built something, and seeing that there is one million people living in the capital that the player specifically focused on developing for most of the game is much more rewarding than seeing there is 100 development which doesn't really feel like a big number compared to 1000000

@Hakimgrr_ 2 ай бұрын

Piracy exists and most normal people will just pirate the dlcs as usual with pdx bullshit

@LoliPolice-bf7mw 2 ай бұрын

@@Hakimgrr_ Nah, I usually purchase the dlcs (and so do most people I know) because hosting mp on pirated dlcs, especially with mods, is basically impossible. Especially since usually PDX has really good sales it's not even that much money.

@Aquaria942 2 ай бұрын

I was not expecting the pop opinion turnaround. How do you feel about mana?

@Laetwo 2 ай бұрын

Really hope they do Timur well, since he isn't really tied to any country at the start date, and I'm afraid they just have him spawn with thousands of event troops and be unplayable effectively.

@nakulan420 2 ай бұрын

33:51 it is the Delhi sultanate in India and Khmer or ayyuthaya in south East Asia in the late or mid 1300s

@krisplovdivski5101 2 ай бұрын

I hope they make a simpler meiou and taxes 3.0 so that it isnt too hard for new players. Personally i would love to also have more interaction with the elites and trying to push reforms like in vicky 3 and meiou and taxes 3.0

@hay4664 2 ай бұрын

If there's pops I hope we get events like the Black Death.

@Johnson333552 2 ай бұрын

From what I can tell the map has to be in the early half of the 14th century. The Delhi Sultanate still controls the area that would separate as the Bahmani Sultanate in 1347 and the Lavo Kingdom in Southeast Asia still exists (it's the small coastal one just west of the Angkor Khmer Empire) My bet is on 1337, the start of the Hundred Years War.

@jonasmollghin9719 2 ай бұрын

Can't wait.

@andrewgagne4465 2 ай бұрын

Cool video

@specil-k 2 ай бұрын

the pop system makes me hope Assyria will be a releasable/formable

@AdamBerrada-vv1ul 2 ай бұрын

As excited as I am, I can alrdy tell so much is gg to go wrong

@tacoandbunbun 2 ай бұрын

“I’m excited for Florry to have the first 1 billion population province” hilarious and very true

@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 2 ай бұрын

Given the fact that Tibet and Lan Xang are independent, it has to either be 1356 or after The Ming dynasty did capture Nanjing in 1356, so it is an important year

@SafavidAfsharid3197 2 ай бұрын

Nah Delhi sultanate border don't match. I think it would still under the rule of Muhammad bin Tughlaq of the Tughlaq dynasty of Delhi Sultanate so before 1351 and after 1335 (when he controlled literally pretty much all of indian subcontinent except odisha and Gondwana).

@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 2 ай бұрын

@@SafavidAfsharid3197dehli doesn't even own bengal or southern india in the map

@DaDunge 2 ай бұрын

21:00 Those are the four estates of the Swedish estates reichstag and slaves (slavery has been outlawed in Sweden since the 12th century) 21:15 Like I said Peasents were an estate of the early swedish parliment.

@croatia0728 2 ай бұрын

I’m scared about literacy being a mechanic. It seems like something that wasn’t as relevant during EU4’s period compared to say Vicky 3’s and could just add more complications to the pops.

@BostonMoose513 2 ай бұрын

I wonder if the earlier start is to allow the indigenous countries in the America's some new game play.

@MatthewsPersonal 2 ай бұрын

Im with you on the zooming. Just let me see my colorw dammit xD

@sduka1909 2 ай бұрын

Arvanite are Albanians who were invited to Morea mostly and lwss to Constantinople mainly for army and defense recruitment. They were invited with their extended families and were given land and no taxes.

@anonymousperson5853 2 ай бұрын

The gujarat map is completely fine, those are the saltbp lakes of gujarat I think the start date is fter khilji dynasty in delhi sultanate because they look pretty weak because mongols existed in early delhi sultanate

@douglasfels9789 2 ай бұрын

Glad to hear I'm not the only one wary of Pops in the gameplay. My experience is that they take control out of the hands of the player, make everything more fiddly, and generally lower my enjoyment. That said, if any company can eventually make them workable in a game environment, it may be Paradox. Man, do I hope they get it right.

@SquirrelMaestro 2 ай бұрын

Arvanites are a southern group of the Albanian group of languages and they live mostly in Greece and Italy. Some also live in Albania. They are religiously diverse among Catholics, Orthodox, and Muslim. I think most are in Greece and Orthodox off the top of my head but I really only know a bit about the ones in Greece because I have Greek ancestry so that’s the area I’ve researched. I myself have partial Albanian dna