What is a CARNET DE PASSAGE? & Do you even NEED ONE to DRIVE AROUND THE WORLD OVERLAND?

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The Road Chose Me

4 жыл бұрын

What is a CARNET DE PASSAGE? & Do you even NEED ONE to DRIVE AROUND THE WORLD OVERLAND?
What is a Carnet De Passage?
Do you really need a Carnet to drive around the world?
Where do you get a Carnet?
How much does a Carnet cost?
What are the alternatives to a Carnet De Passage?
In this video I answer all of these topics as I dive into this advanced paperwork topic!
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@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
I forgot to mention a Carnet is also MANDATORY for Saudi Arabia, so you can't take the ferry from Sudan to the middle east without one!
@miguelrosalesllano
@miguelrosalesllano 4 жыл бұрын
That ferry from Sudan wich Port arrives? Pakistán?
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
From Sudan to Saudi Arabia. Overlanders take it all the time.
@ZEROmg13
@ZEROmg13 27 күн бұрын
love your series. question, did you make a video on medical preparedness/emergencies?? if you did,could you provide a link and if not, why not???....lol. in my long years on this planet, i've never needed any emergency medical services (lucky me) but sitting behind a desk for 8 hrs per day is quite different than 8 hrs on the road, where shit can happen. just asking, thanks.
@schlepplifthasser
@schlepplifthasser 2 ай бұрын
Espacially the clear information about westafrika is gold for me. Thank you very much. I will try it without a carnet.
@aryesXNA
@aryesXNA 3 жыл бұрын
In Slovenia 5-page carnet costs only 150€ and no deposit required. I'm so happy I live here. We do have other issues here thou :D
@Fe_lix
@Fe_lix 4 жыл бұрын
Also on the carnet de passage a frequent strategy is to use/buy an older vehicle and even if you have a ton of $$ in maintenance/customization/overlanding stuff on it you can register it for a far lower value in the carnet.
@obxjeepguy
@obxjeepguy 4 жыл бұрын
This is why my Cherokee is a 1985 model.
@alexalexandrakis8205
@alexalexandrakis8205 3 жыл бұрын
I must say, one of the BEST videos I have seen on KZfaq in regards to Carnet De Passage. Very clear and articulated. Well done.
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@chrisandsara
@chrisandsara 2 жыл бұрын
Incredibly helpful as we plan our own international overlanding adventures. Thank you so much! Your channel has been incredly helpful and we're only a few videos in! :)
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe Жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@DB-yj3qc
@DB-yj3qc 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for all the great information.
@RaduTudoroiu
@RaduTudoroiu Жыл бұрын
Great video. Close to what i was expecting!
@patrickkambali9469
@patrickkambali9469 Жыл бұрын
Great info, absolutely packed and concise - Thank you.
@safarisidekick3980
@safarisidekick3980 3 жыл бұрын
Well done! Excellent information!
@ctahir8539
@ctahir8539 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative and extremely well explained ..... 👍👍👍👍👍
@paulb2340
@paulb2340 Ай бұрын
V helpful bro, thanks!
@richardevans2534
@richardevans2534 3 жыл бұрын
Great video with so much info. Thanks
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@flysoutbackadventures
@flysoutbackadventures 4 жыл бұрын
Thanx for that. Very informative 👍
@siddharthaganguli5299
@siddharthaganguli5299 3 жыл бұрын
Critical and complex topic very pragmatically explained. Thanks a lot..
@TheThundercow
@TheThundercow 3 жыл бұрын
Your exactly the kinda man I was looking for. Really great info, youre clearing up a lot for me.
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help
@SmallBrainedAmerican
@SmallBrainedAmerican Жыл бұрын
Great advice. I can tell ur a legend . Keep it up mate
@outliersoverland
@outliersoverland 4 жыл бұрын
Great info Dan!
@stevestott3652
@stevestott3652 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this . Very informative and useful information , thanks again . From Steve Stott in Sutherlin Oregon U.S.A.
@julessnakkers
@julessnakkers 4 жыл бұрын
Great video again. Usefull! I thought it was quite okay from Morocco to Congo but it was necessary for South Africa. Something learned again.
@joelfuller4677
@joelfuller4677 2 жыл бұрын
super helpful! thank you!
@FalharNomads
@FalharNomads Жыл бұрын
Step-by-step information will definitely be helpful for those planning to travel in their own vehicle.
@KD2HJP
@KD2HJP 4 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh, a subject I can opine on, yay!
@miguelrosalesllano
@miguelrosalesllano 4 жыл бұрын
These is really really a Big question Mark thx for the video 😉👌🏻
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@Bravo1TangoNovember
@Bravo1TangoNovember 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for explaining this. I have long wondered about the how and why’s, especially for Africa. Great video 👍🏻
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear it was helpful! They're super confusing in general, and I wish the whole system would get a massive overhaul!
@amaclach
@amaclach 4 жыл бұрын
looking forward to this...
@kel8026
@kel8026 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliantly explained. This video will be godsend for many people who haven't yet figured things out.
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
It's a big hurdle to navigate, and I think it's one of the reasons people shy away from going globally.
@markuffindell
@markuffindell 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for great information
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
You bet!
@baszuidberg801
@baszuidberg801 4 жыл бұрын
Egypt requires a 200% deposit, not 800% (AA south africa). Getting a carnet is SA is a pain though because the deposit is done in SA Rand, which is prone to devaluation, meaning your deposit is worth less at the end of your trip. It is possible to get an Egyptian carnet that is valid in other African countries (there are 3 providers in Cairo). The cost for a 12 page carnet is approx 200 USD and the deposit is "negotiable". I paid 50% value of the car in cash deposit for a car which had South African license plates. Kenya TIP is limited to 15 days, so is possible to cross without carnet, but just a shame not to be able to stay longer. Travel safe!
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
I extended my 15 day Kenyan tip for another 15 days, easy in Customs in Nairobi.
@alexalexandrakis8205
@alexalexandrakis8205 3 жыл бұрын
I just been quoted by CARS in the UK for a deposit of 88%! This is for a 2012 old car worth £12K which to be honest I was surprised as I have also heard lots of rumours about Egypt ranging from 800-200%. I have also heard about the Egyptian tripque, I have a good Egyptian friend in Cairo and he is going to ask all the details for me this week.
@viniciusdea.maranhao6431
@viniciusdea.maranhao6431 3 жыл бұрын
Godsend. Thanks! Vini from Brasil.
@defendermodsandtravels
@defendermodsandtravels 4 жыл бұрын
Dan has yet again provided some gold dust info for overlanders. I would pick out just a couple of points from his video. Firstly, the cost of the carnet and the deposit / insurance bond is directly linked to the value of the vehicle, and spectacularly so if the deposit / bond is some multiplier >1. Hence there's a big advantage in driving an older vehicle which has a low market value. My 30 year old Defender would be declared at scrap value in most countries and hence the carnet is affordable :-) There are other advantages in taking an older 4x4 on these trips but this isn't the place to expound them. Secondly, Dan correctly identifies that import requirements at ports and at land borders can be very different even in the same country. It is especially important to get everything sorted in advance when a container is arriving because it becomes very expensive if there are any delays. You typically get 5 days in which to turn around a container from the moment of arrival and after that there will be rental payments on a steeply accelerating scale, plus port charges, demurrage, penalties, you name it. In some countries corrupt agents and customs officials will use this to pressure the vehicle owner to make extra payments. The mere threat of delaying a container by a few weeks will cause some owners to panic. Even with a carnet my container was unexpectedly delayed by 2+ weeks when entering Malaysia recently. This was due to ignorance and poor communications rather than corruption. If anyone is interested I tell the story at kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z7yfg9yllcCmoXk.html By contrast, on the return journey my container was through Felixstowe port in the UK less than 12 hours after the huge vessel docked. That's how it should work.
@rgbgfabian
@rgbgfabian 2 жыл бұрын
You can also import your vehicle in your end destination pay all legal taxes and have the Carnet stamped. This will get you your money back as well.
@tehsin13
@tehsin13 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. There's literally not much info on this. I thought of taking my car to birth country (bangladesh). But most people says no because of bureaucracy and tax. Costs from north america is just not worth it. Thankfully no need to do it when driving throughout America. And hope to stay that way forever.
@Portland_Living_Life
@Portland_Living_Life 4 жыл бұрын
Good information. That $1,500 fee just for the paperwork in the USA was really eye opening. Also, was not aware this was an issue for Australia. I'm going to start out with North America where I don't have to worry about a Carnet and then go from there.
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
All of Central and South America too you can forget about it!
@mikeamizzle
@mikeamizzle 3 жыл бұрын
Very eye opening video. Thank you for this. Was unaware of this system prior to it.
@andremouton3838
@andremouton3838 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan, thx been waiting for this video. I need to go to Ethiopia but threw Kenya. According to the AA we need a Carne for Kenya. But will keep watching. Many thx. Blessings
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
The AA will tell you a Carnet is mandatory for a bunch of countries it isn't. In fact many places say you need one for Cameroon, but when you actually get to Cameroon and talk to customs, they don't even accept the Carnet De Passage! It's all a bit of a gong show, but as I said if you can get one cheaply and easily, you may as well.
@andremouton3838
@andremouton3838 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRoadChoseMe Hi morning my friend, many many thx for your feedback and videos, it is very informative. Have a awesome weekend
@classicvwride7520
@classicvwride7520 Жыл бұрын
You are a genius Dan, I can listen to u all day long. I just bought a vw westfalia in Nigeria, I live the UK, I plan to drive it from Nigeria up to the uk next year. I will use the t.i.p
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe Жыл бұрын
Awesome, have a great trip!
@classicvwride7520
@classicvwride7520 Жыл бұрын
@@TheRoadChoseMe...thank u
@RidetheBean
@RidetheBean 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! That was very helpful! We are planning a MC trip through Africa starting in January and this carnet stuff is confusing. When did you go through Africa? Any idea if it will even be possible to do after Corona?
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
I started in mid 2016 and finished in early 2019. I'm sure travel will eventually get back to some kind of "normal", the question is when.
@damarraharjo2372
@damarraharjo2372 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that info. Very informative, but at the same time very confusing. If the goal is to travel the globe I would assume a Carnet is a must as some countries require it, and you wouldn’t want to be stuck on some border because you don’t have one. You either need a Carnet or TIP to enter any country, is that correct? It’s one or the other? How is it different to a Temporary Import Permit? Is a TIP purchased on demand when entering a country as opposed to paying an initial deposit for the Carnet? You mentioned the Carnet can be extended while on the road, is that a one off or can it be repeated indefinitely? You also mentioned that a Carnet can only be issued where the car is registered, so would someone be able to get around the high deposit fees some countries charge, by buying a car in a country with cheaper fees (such as Australia)? In essence a foreigner buys a car in Australia to get the Australian Carnet. Cheers, Damar
@promenteryrobbins
@promenteryrobbins 4 жыл бұрын
Really helpful
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped
@teach-in-china
@teach-in-china Жыл бұрын
NICE WORK! Excellent information.... would you please guide us a little how to do carnet from China to Pakistan
@chesterburns3539
@chesterburns3539 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome!
@easibooster635
@easibooster635 Жыл бұрын
Legend thank Zhou so much 🎉
@didiermartin9386
@didiermartin9386 4 жыл бұрын
It is very easy to get a carnet in Australia as long as your vehicule is registered in Australia. You don’t have to put a bond, for a motorcycle I pay around $200 for an insurance that covers the bond for a year. The total cost of the carnet is $1500 but you get $500 back when the bike returns. I got one in 2017 then another one in 2018. No issues at all.
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
Good to know! I'd be interested to know how much it costs for a 4x4 work $20k or $40k.
@didiermartin9386
@didiermartin9386 4 жыл бұрын
The Road Chose Me , The Road Chose Me, to be honest I don’t think the value of the vehicle makes a difference, the insurance might cost more for a car though, I don’t know how much more.
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
It surely does. All the issuing authorities around the world base everything around the value of the vehicle and the countries you're going to, because that's the size of the liability they're taking on.
@aasphaltmueller5178
@aasphaltmueller5178 3 жыл бұрын
For Turkey you do not need a Carnet, but you will NOT leave the country without your vehicle - all border posts are linked up, it's also stamped in your passport. If you break down and the parts will take too long, load it up and ship it out.
@eveningstar1
@eveningstar1 Жыл бұрын
An old world bureaucratic nightmare~ True!!
@mapleleafdrifters
@mapleleafdrifters 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thanks Dan. Just wondering, does every country that requires a Carnet issue a temporary one (like Egypt)? thanks
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
No, absolutely not. It's a very rare and very difficult thing to organize. I would not rely on it.
@chandlercarlson8688
@chandlercarlson8688 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, yet again. Thank you! Curious, is it entirely possible to purchase an overlander in South Africa and get a Carnet for travel from South Africa to India as a US citizen? I've read mixed field notes on whether or not it's possible to obtain a Carnet in SA as a foreigner, and for many reasons, it makes more sense to purchase an overlander on the continent rather than import. Any advice or tips would be MUCH appreciated!
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 3 жыл бұрын
You certainly CAN buy the vehicle (you have a to get a South African ID number to be able to register it in your name...) it takes time and is a pain but it can be done. As for the carnet, that kind of thing changes all the time. You would be able to get one from the USA issuer, probably. Or maybe Switzerland (NOT cheap). If you're prepared to persevere, you'll get it done.
@miguelrosalesllano
@miguelrosalesllano 4 жыл бұрын
It would be really helpful another video about roro freight shipping and how to make It succesfull. Theres not much information or videos explaining that. Thx Dan
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
That video is coming on Monday, I'm editing it up right now!
@122803ej
@122803ej Жыл бұрын
Useful information. where can one apply 4 Carnet de passage. Thanks
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe Жыл бұрын
It depends where you live, and where the vehicle is registered. Usually the motoring authority of your country
@DannyK1992
@DannyK1992 3 жыл бұрын
13:32 and they make you change your license plates, too And in the Sinai peninsula there are restrictions on the type of vehicles that can cross (from Israel) so no diesel, no 4*4, no motorcycles And recently they banned the use of dashcams, which are popular in Israel You wanna cross into Sinai with your car? take out the dashcam
@next-horizon-overland
@next-horizon-overland 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, US$ 1500 for a CDP is really expensive. Incredible. Feels like getting ripped off! Here in Switzerland we get it for about US$ 230 (or 640 for vehicles, which are nor registered in the country). So better apply here in Switzerland :-)
@BittnerBuddenbrock
@BittnerBuddenbrock 4 жыл бұрын
Could you please double check your statement that foreign registered cars can get a CDP in CH!!! It would go against all the rules I know! I once got a CDP from RO for my CD-plated car from the RO automobile club but paied the automobil club in Austria which in turn guaranteed the deposit to the club in RO! All this due to the fact that the car would be reregistered in Egypt and I nor the car would return to RO! The CDP for the RO registered vehicle however had to come from RO. Thank you
@clintwestwood7942
@clintwestwood7942 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome 2 free market!
@manomad7268
@manomad7268 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. I am from Malta (EU) and the local customs (with whom I work) don't issue carnet so I am assuming that I have to do it elsewhere online. May I know on average how long does it take to have it issued? Thanks.
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 2 жыл бұрын
It depends entirely on where you get it, how you choose to pay the bond, etc. etc. Contact places now and start getting the info from them
@jamalulailismail3277
@jamalulailismail3277 3 жыл бұрын
I drove to Malaysia via Iran without Carnet. By Road to Malaysia
@pegadmin4787
@pegadmin4787 2 жыл бұрын
We are new'ish to the road, having been in Turkey and Georgia, now we have learned about the CDP, and we wanted to do Iran and Pakistan. Putting £160,000 in bond is out of the question, and it requires too much trust of our savings. We will try to get one in Tbilisi, and see what they charge. We were sooo looking forward to driving through Azerbaijan, Iran and Pakistan. OIt seems the poorer the country, the more they put us off financially from doing it...Very sad
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 2 жыл бұрын
Find a country that will let you take an insurance policy against the amount, so you don't have to actually put that amount into bond!
@douglansburg4545
@douglansburg4545 4 жыл бұрын
Wow ,
@VitaminD_Power
@VitaminD_Power 3 жыл бұрын
In kuwait if i want to travel to egypt i buy trip-tic by 120$ only If i want the whole middle east ( excluding egypt ) it rounds about 120$ also Not sure if this treptic is capable to enter europe or no, i saw a vlog about a kuwaiti guy overlander entered romania from turkey and he had slight struggle on the borders
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! I think that's a special thing because your vehicle is registered in Kuwait. I don't think people with vehicles registered in the rest of the world can do that
@vildrotax
@vildrotax 4 жыл бұрын
How did you find the egyptian guy to help you out? Are there places online where you can get in touch with locals that know how to do the paperwork and such?
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
If you're serious about doing the trip you'll be in Facebook Groups and online forums where you can find the info. I'm reluctant to post his phone number here because I don't want him to get bombarded.
@vildrotax
@vildrotax 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRoadChoseMe I was not asking for your guy specifically, just in general how to get in contact with people that know how to do the tricky stuff. Thanks for the answer anyway.
@alexalexandrakis8205
@alexalexandrakis8205 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRoadChoseMe Good response, I have found a guy who might be able to do the job but I really had to do a lot of work and searching on online forums etc.
@BlackeyeCis
@BlackeyeCis 4 жыл бұрын
it's possible to travel thru Central Asia without a carnet and for Iran you could get TIP with the help of local agent
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
What about India/Pakistan?
@wolfgangwust5883
@wolfgangwust5883 4 жыл бұрын
In Iran there is a guy named Hossein offering some sort of local CdP. Pretty expensive (he was asking for 600€) plus you have to exit a different border, otherwise valid for six days only. Eventually I obtained an official CdP in Germany from ADAC. Absolutely mandatory for Pakistan and India, from what I know. Finally a little moneysaver: You can massively underdeclare your car's value. No one ever cares.
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
Great advice, thankyou!
@beepeesscee
@beepeesscee 4 жыл бұрын
who's your contact for Egypt?
@juliussigurorsson3509
@juliussigurorsson3509 4 жыл бұрын
Super interesting as usual. I am just starting the first steps, collecting money/income and information. I am although very used to off road driving and don't worry much about that part. But topic for video. Your drive, how many % on asphalt road, good gravel road, bad gravel road, sandy roads/trails, good dirt/mud trails and bad dirt/mud trails. And how many days on really tough off road trails. Also were there parts that you wanted to go, but didn't have the abilities to go? and if so, why?
@juliussigurorsson3509
@juliussigurorsson3509 4 жыл бұрын
and also is there lot of sharp stone trails? the tire cutting type.
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
It entirely depends where you are going in the world, and what kind of trip you want to have. You could stick to pavement 99% of the time in most of the world, or you could try really hard to avoid it, and find yourself in nasty mud or rocks or sand just five minutes from that pavement. It's up to you really.
@juliussigurorsson3509
@juliussigurorsson3509 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRoadChoseMe I am looking at and thinking about your trip in Africa. I am sure you maxed the back land and interesting places. And I am looking only at Africa. I know you can travel the world on asphalt, but taking all interesting parks and bush land in your trip! It looks like something I would do similar, but store my vehicle along the way and finish it in several 6-8 month parts. I am thinking tires, vehicle, suspension, fuel & water range etc. And note, I am from Iceland and half of our roads outside cities and urban areas are without asphalt.
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
Tons of people overland all of Africa in the Land Cruiser 70 series. So a good solid 4x4 is all you need to get remote, which is exactly what I took with my Jeep. It took me everywhere I needed to go!
@juliussigurorsson3509
@juliussigurorsson3509 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRoadChoseMe Thanks! this really told me more than you know. I guess Africa off road problems aren't anything like Arctic off road that I grew up with. Google "Iceland off road", click images and you will understand! And then ad "winter" in the search.... and see! My world past 25 years.... and 9 years before that, at the age of 13, I got bogged for the first time in old Ferguson farm tractor. Don't worry, I will not show up in Africa on 49" tires. Thanks for the videos, keep up the good work!
@aziazeeb6883
@aziazeeb6883 4 жыл бұрын
Same amount will cost in india too ... I think more tgan 1500$ ..!
@jayc3905
@jayc3905 4 жыл бұрын
Are motorcycles required to have one too in the places that require one?
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, absolutely.
@DaciaProject
@DaciaProject 4 жыл бұрын
What about car insurance for worldwide travel?
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
I talk about that in this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rbaXfrphq5nOdnU.html
@TaleOfTwoIdiots
@TaleOfTwoIdiots 3 жыл бұрын
So which is more of a pain for Australia: paying the newer-vehicle Carnet price OR having an older vehicle cleaned well enough to be allowed into the country?
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 3 жыл бұрын
Both / All! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n8qoZdR4zpmxc6s.html
@TaleOfTwoIdiots
@TaleOfTwoIdiots 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I saw that - my plan was to send over my next jeep (№6) when it was new to avoid the hassle of trying to clean №5 enough to get it past customs…but then I saw this video. Still, I'm an old man and want to spend the rest of my days overlanding in the same Jeep I drove across Australia. 😊🇦🇺
@TamarChannel
@TamarChannel Жыл бұрын
Do you think the deposit will be expensive if decided to drive thru Iran ? I am actually planning to bring my Georgian Mercedes Benz to Saudi Arabia thru Armenia-Iran-UAE. The cost of my car in Georgia is around 25K USD. Looking for your advice
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe Жыл бұрын
You'll have to talk to the Automobile association in whatever country is going to issue the Carnet and go from there.
@themusthafa3826
@themusthafa3826 Жыл бұрын
I am planning to take a trip from Oman to France with my Royal Enfield Himalayan. I have the bike registered as a 1000cc motorcycle under my name with the help of a police officer friend. The reason i did this is because expats in oman can only register motorcycle above or 1000cc. I want to know if this will cause a problem at the border customs of Iran, Turkey, Greece Borders. Bothcarnet and local registration say it is 1000cc. Please do help me in this regard.
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe Жыл бұрын
Lying is never a good idea, and it's hard to know exactly what will happen. I think it's likely that if the registration and carnet both say 1000cc, then it will be accepted as that and it should be fine. Good luck and have a great trip!
@BarlitosC
@BarlitosC 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, anybody know what deposits/fees are required to drive US plates temporarily in EU? Trying to negate paying any deposit based on vehicle value. Thanks
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 2 жыл бұрын
A deposit is at the discretion of the officer on arrival. I was lucky and didn't have to pay one at all. You'll have to figure it out at the time of arrival.
@mrmiyagi5
@mrmiyagi5 3 жыл бұрын
You should drive to Alaska (Or B.C.) then ship to Russia and drive through Asia and Europe.
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 3 жыл бұрын
It's on my list, though unfortunately there's no shipping from AK to Russia.. it's a long and complicated route! But yes, one of these days !
@piast_kolodziej
@piast_kolodziej Жыл бұрын
Hi, how did you find this guy that made CDP in Egypt for $500?
@BittnerBuddenbrock
@BittnerBuddenbrock 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting topic however seen from a totally N-American view point! General point, the cars registration is the fact which determines from where the Carney has to be gotten! In Europe / the world less the Americas a Carney is a "normal" thing and can be gotten from the Automobil club (one of them) of the country of registration! The deposit depends on the countries intended to travel to or through! In Europe no-one actually deposits at amount of money, everyone takes out an insurance which is well below 500€ for normal overlander vehicle like a LR of Jeep. Egypt is an interesting case and your temporary import permit a very surprising issue - I would actually appreciate any and all information on it - Arabic being no problem - since I lived in ET for 9 years as the Austrian consul. The very important note concerning ET is the fact that import customs fees for cars are very.high and therefore also the free due if the vehicle does not leave ET! If your vehicle gets stolen or burns the fees will still have to be paid - police report of not! The only way out of it is if you can manage to "give" it to the ET-customs! They however will accept this only delivered to one of their custom-courts! "My car is 300km into the desert ....." will not be accepted! PS I've been in Saudi in February with Jordanian-registered car - no Carney needed! Same for a Dutch-registered LR!
@BittnerBuddenbrock
@BittnerBuddenbrock 4 жыл бұрын
@VolDep45 why would I need to make a video to be judged by you or anyone else? My points were explaining and supporting the very interesting information he - according to his accent from Australia - gave from his point of view!
@Jeepkid
@Jeepkid 3 жыл бұрын
What abt Asia do we need carnet there ?
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 3 жыл бұрын
It varies greatly by country, but usually for a trans-asia trip you can't do it without one.
@Matthews_Media
@Matthews_Media 3 жыл бұрын
I would probably end up not getting a Carnet for West Africa because I've heard some borders don't even know how to process them and I'm on a budget even though it only ends up being $2500 for my vehicle... But I'm looking to drive to Europe and then stay there.. So the vehicle wouldn't come back to South Africa, how would one go about getting your deposit back then?
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 3 жыл бұрын
That's a very big and difficult question and answer. Eventually if you're going to keep the vehicle in Europe you'll have to go through the process to import it - which is a massive ordeal. You'll have to pay import taxes and duties. It will have to pass crash safety. The steering wheel will need to be on the correct side , etc etc. Once it's finally legal in some country, you could get your deposit back, though I'm sure it will take some explaining!
@Matthews_Media
@Matthews_Media 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRoadChoseMe I'm pretty lucky that the van I've got is already an import from germany and I've got some of the original German documentation for it so I believe importing it will be much easier aswell as import tax being cut by a lot as the vehicle is just returning to its country of origin. I've heard for those that risk traveling without the Carnet still have to pay a deposit at the boarder of entry but when you exit you have to collect your deposit at borders with certain ATMs.. Is that true?
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 3 жыл бұрын
It varies by country, and the officer to speak to on the day. Without a carnet is a bit more hit and miss than with one
@nasirhasnan4111
@nasirhasnan4111 3 жыл бұрын
Can I get a Carnet if my Land Rover has export number plate? I am retiring by end of 2020 and planning to drive from Saudi Arabia to UAE, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Myanmar, Thailand and Malaysia. I need to have an export plate because I am leaving Saudi for good.
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 3 жыл бұрын
You'll have to ask whoever issues Carnets in Saudi about that
@roderick2105
@roderick2105 5 ай бұрын
What would happen if your vehicle was stolen or written -off , while travelling !!
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 5 ай бұрын
You get a police report explaining that, and you can get the carnet released and your bond returned.
@amaclach
@amaclach 4 жыл бұрын
Great - So sounds like Kenya, Ethiopia, Tanzania from the UAE won't be too much of a drama :-) Now for corona virus to go away and borders to open...
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
You might want to check on UAE - and you absolutely MUST have one for Saudi Arabia, and the usual way across is the ferry from Sudan through Saudi.
@amaclach
@amaclach 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRoadChoseMe yeah. No plans to drive thru Saudi until they sort a bunch of things out, shame because there's a lot to see & explore there, but once they do sort it out, I'll be across the border quick smart.
@nasseral-momen1463
@nasseral-momen1463 4 жыл бұрын
I have driven through Saudi multiple times and only got insurance at the border. My car is registered in kuwait. I didnt go to Africa though as it was to oman salalah. So I drove through uae as well. If your going through Saudi speak to a guy who has an Instagram account @gotroopy. He camped in saudi last February and came in from the uae
@amaclach
@amaclach 4 жыл бұрын
@@nasseral-momen1463 thanks habibi. I'll check it out - also can't wait for Oman to be open... looks like Dhofar (Salalah) & Masirah are still closed internally. Oman is having a rough time with C19...
@_Viking
@_Viking Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! I was literally about to buy a Carnet these days for a trip down the west coast of Africa. Here in Norway 5 pages cost €325, 10 pages €400 and 25 pages €475. But with a minimum of €5000 deposit. One question: what to do if you enter a country where a Carnet is _recommended_ and the customs find out you have a Carnet (eg only 5 page)? Will they force you to use it or can you still try to get a TIP?
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe Жыл бұрын
I don't believe they can force you to use it. And they'll never find it if you don't tell them about it. If your vehicle is more than 5 years old you might have a hard time getting into Senegal (very corrupt border).. you'll get in, but expect to pay a large bribe. Newer than 5 years is no problem.
@_Viking
@_Viking Жыл бұрын
@@TheRoadChoseMe thanks a lot for the answer😊👍 If I decide to go without a Carnet I'll skip Senegal. But then i need to find a route through Mali. And I'll also have to skip several of the other countries on the west coast. Maybe a Carnet is an easier solution after all..
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe Жыл бұрын
You don't need to skip any, you can do all without a carnet, but it is harder for sure.
@adelarsen9776
@adelarsen9776 4 жыл бұрын
Russia, Nordics and Europe you don't need a Carnét.
@2Dawoods
@2Dawoods 3 жыл бұрын
OKAY! SO... If I can afford it and am only running the Pan American, Did you say it makes border crossings easier??? Like 5 mins vs. 6 hours??? or did I misunderstand?? AND Are you making any % of interest on your deposit??
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 3 жыл бұрын
No country on the Pan Am accepts the Carnet de Passage - you will absolutely not need one, and it won't help. Forget about it!
@2Dawoods
@2Dawoods 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRoadChoseMe Gracias!!!
@DaciaProject
@DaciaProject 4 жыл бұрын
What about getting constantly stopped by the police in foreign countries with your home country plates?
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
It's not really a big deal. I covered extortion in this video - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f7WcnbOJvpa3nZs.html and there's a part 2 as well
@DaciaProject
@DaciaProject 4 жыл бұрын
The Road Chose Me A European plated car in the US is sure to get repeatedly stopped by State cops? No?
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
No, not necessarily. Many hundreds of people do it every year.
@DaciaProject
@DaciaProject 4 жыл бұрын
The Road Chose Me What is the cost shipping one way between Europe and the US or vice versa?
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
That video is coming on Monday!
@nagisaian
@nagisaian 3 жыл бұрын
New Zealand carnets are quite cheap comparatively
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 3 жыл бұрын
But I'm sure you can only get one for vehicles registered in NZ, and you probably have to have an NZ passport.
@nagisaian
@nagisaian 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRoadChoseMe yes I think it only for NZ cars, lucky for kiwis tho
@shashidl
@shashidl 2 жыл бұрын
How much for a Motorcycle?
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 2 жыл бұрын
Much, much less (because the motorcycle is worth less than a car), but it will vary depending on where you get the carnet, the actual value of the motorbike, and which countries you are going to.
@shashidl
@shashidl 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRoadChoseMe thank you for replying. Very useful information 👍👍👍
@AndrewBrowner
@AndrewBrowner 4 жыл бұрын
did you spend alot of time in mexico/central america? seems like a great place for diving/swimming/caving locations but the northamerican media certainly portray it as a giant cartel killing grounds... oddly enough im more worried about my vehicles safety than my own, a stolen vehicle at gun point would really put an end to the overlanding lifestyle
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
I spent almost a year in Mexico & Central America and absolutely loved it. If you want real information, don't listen to the media, talk to real people that have done it recently. Plenty of forums and FB groups of overlanders scattered all throughout Central America right now!
@AndrewBrowner
@AndrewBrowner 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRoadChoseMe forsure! happen to have a favorite/memorable spot in mexico off the top of your head? also enjoying the rapid fire uploads lately you must be putting in 40hours a week at this!
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
I was in Mexico over a decade ago.. I'm sure it's a whole new world now. Have a look in ioverlander to see how many great places there are!
@Petah30
@Petah30 4 жыл бұрын
What about buying a car locally. Say box up your critical gear and ship it to the capital. Buy a vehicle and off you go?
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
In theory yes, but the problem is that in many countries in the world you can't register and insure a vehicle in your name because you are just a tourist, not a citizen. Even when you can, sometimes you're not allowed to take that vehicle out of that country as just a tourist. Also you might still need a Carnet to get into a neighbouring country!
@dilsher12
@dilsher12 4 жыл бұрын
I think that might be a better idea for somewhere like Australia ,Canada and USA but not so much for Africa , Europe and Asia.
@AndrewBrowner
@AndrewBrowner 4 жыл бұрын
a 1500$ fee to file some paperwork.. no risk to them youre putting up a full deposit.. just doesnt make sense only reason they can do it is because their target market (overlanders) are so niche theres not enough demand for anyone to undercut them also i dont understand how they can work if you can claim your vehicle was stolen, the sellers theyre trying to stop can just sell the vehicle and claim it stolen, atleast in the looser countries that locals dont register/license vehicles with VINs
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, the fees are horrendous. For the stolen vehicle case it takes a LONG time and is a pain in the backside. It's not something you'd do willingly, because you might not get your deposit back.
@Fe_lix
@Fe_lix 4 жыл бұрын
When I went to the US as a student in J1 VISA some years ago, 1500$ is also what I paid in various fees (not even the visa itself) for things like "being registered in a database" so I'd say this can of "no choice" fee does not surprise me for the US, business is business.
@gavinwilliamson3944
@gavinwilliamson3944 4 жыл бұрын
Very Cheap for Australian Registered Motor. Only $1420.00 AU all up with the $500 bond. Maybe you need a AU registered Jeep.
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
But with the steering wheel on the wrong side there are countries I can't go to!
@gavinwilliamson3944
@gavinwilliamson3944 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRoadChoseMe That's interesting. Like to know which ones.If it does not contain spoilers of your next trip.
@TheRoadChoseMe
@TheRoadChoseMe 4 жыл бұрын
I'll do a video about why RHD is not a great choice for global overlanding
@_the_Necromancer
@_the_Necromancer Жыл бұрын
well eff Egypt
@BittnerBuddenbrock
@BittnerBuddenbrock 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry Carney should be Carnet*
@GauravSharmaMangoMan
@GauravSharmaMangoMan 4 жыл бұрын
I could not concentrate on the content as I was just focused on the jaw moving so much while the rest of the body does not. Also please shoot on 24/30 fps and not higher.
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