we need it!

Rapid fire barrel kills 5% faster, muzzle booster 2.5% faster, and together 7.5% faster. That’s it for ttk

its helps every gun. there is no need for a video

It just kills faster on every gun…

faster ttk but more recoil. throw them on and strafe while shooting for the recoil smoothing. stacking fire rate is very good I use it on every class pretty much.

Was thinking the same thing

Exactly

Make sure you watch the recoil section toward the end!

@@TheXclusiveAce Yeah, but with a slower ROF you have more time compensate for a recoil between shots, so even if there is no objective recoil benefit, the slower rof will moderate felt the recoil regardless

@@TheXclusiveAcehe's saying that while the magnitude is the same, the rate of climb is ~10% slower.

​​@@valakivalakifalvai137 I feel like this is true, but only high rate of fire guns like the vector really benefit from this to not take other attachments... The lower the rate of fire the less need for this compensation.

Nice note 👍

Question… why does the m44 hit for 112 on phantoms…. Is that the head shot damage as usually it still appears white not red for a crit ?? Note I’ve not been using heavy with it just recon barrel atm.

@@Synergy465 I think there’s an upper body multiplier. I believe you can 1 shot Phantoms to the head. I think it’s 112 to the chest so you need the Cleaner to finish them off.

​@@Synergy465 there is a separate hitbox in the chest area but only some guns actually get a multiplier for hitting it. You can test it in the firing range where they use the images of the characters as targets.

I'm surprised xclusiveace didn't mention the one shot with the SVD. I've been running both markmans for the majority of my play time and they are both absolute monsters with the heavy barrel.

Its not possible atm due to long grind just to get attachments for weapons so it will take a while for him to fully release gun guides/best builds.

It does 2 instantly and 8 dot

I think its planned yeah, but obviously low on the priority list edit: ye he talked about it in the comments of this video and he says he has a lot of weapon levelling to do still so it'll take a while

Eventually but I still have tons of weapon leveling to do

@@TheXclusiveAce Don't we all? 😅 Take your time and thank you, looking forward to it!

No. Or at least, incredibly unlikely. One less shot to kill is usually a bigger improvement than just shooting slightly faster, also it means you use up slightly less ammo and have slightly less recoil ( Yes I know ace says it doesn't impact recoil in the video, but he is wrong. The recoil magnitude is the same, but over a longer period of time, therefore the gun kicks up slightly slower, making it easier to control nonetheless). Also, the rapidfire barrel has disadvantages to -range- recoil which is very very bad depending on the gun, so beware That being said the muzzle booster can be used in conjunction with the heavy barrel to boost both damage and ROF and that's how I use it on the vector. I The extra recoil is practically unnoticeable imo.

i been running muzzle booster rapid fire w em now i’m gonna try muzzle booster heavy barrel jus to see how it feels after this info

If you want to see the ttk difference between attachments go to the range. The dummies on the right give you ttk with your setup and you can tweak it in the range

Even if the TTK were slightly faster with the rapid fire attachments, the 30% total loss in recoil control will still be too much of a downside to make it the better choice

You play on console? I have pretty much max recoil penalty and I haven't noticed difference on pc.​@@spudmaster1793

Easily

there aren't any? I don' think. I mean rapidfire lowers your damage range but that's self explanatory. Also, they're a lot less complicated: firing faster is always better in terms of ttk, but you have slightly more recoil because of the added fire rate, and they have some downsides attached. Pretty simple if you ask me

You lose -five- 10% fire rate, then gain 2.5% back. So it basically -halves- quarters the rof penalty of the heavy barrel, but introduces a recoil penalty instead. Definitely worth using on some guns. The vector for example, I think it makes perfect sense here, if you don't want to use the barrel extender

I still use it on the mp7 tbh, you miss a lot less if you don't go for headshots, and you have less recoil (despite what ace said) because while the magnitude is the same, it's happening over a longer period of time which means a lower rate of climb.

^ This, I prefer the consistency of having the same TTK out to longer ranges

Without Heavy Barrel: 343ms With Heavy Barrel: 305ms

Cleaners don’t impact TTK, the burn damage only applies once you stop dealing damage to the enemy.

​@@tonedeaftachankagaming457not true. The first 2 damage tic hits well before then, it's just the rest that waits until you stop hitting long enough

Yes. I put up a comment on this a few minutes ago so I'll just put it here as well, but basically, SVD and M44 are solid. Here is my original comment: "1:42 One thing for people who are interested in Cleaners + Heavy Barrel, the Heavy Barrel plus cleaners with the SVD will allow you to still get one shot kills to the head past the roughly 45 meters mark. (Whatever the range is for it exactly, I know it has a 10% reduction for Cleaners) The reason for this is the Heavy Barrel for the SVD boosts the damage past its range where it no longer gets a one shot kill to 99. One damage point shy to kill all but Phantom players with one shot. And since the Cleaners near instantly add 2 points of damage for its first tick out of four, its practically still a one shot kill to the head. Again to all but Phantoms. Also of note similarly and really even better, using the M44 sniper with the Heavy Barrrel + Cleaners will basically have the same effect, allowing you to kill Phantoms to the chest like all other factions. So keep that in mind if you intend to use the M44, or the SVD. Both are insanely good with Cleaners + Heavy Barrel. Have fun and snipe some heads and Phantoms! :D"

Not worth to put it on the AK. It only adds 1 damage to 24. You would still need 5 shots to kill. Only M16 is worth using a heavy barrel to reduce from 5 to 4 shots and you can kill with 1 burst if it lands to the head.

​@@boocombanit kills with 1 burst anyway

Probably better to just use the muzzle booster and some other barrel

Yes, but he said it'd take a while since he still had a lot of weapon leveling to do

I don’t think it’s faster, however I do feel like momentum if sliding off a ledge is. Probably due to sliding into a jump appears to me to have more velocity but i dk really …. down hill is though depending on the steepness and distance, like on zoo the hill to 2nd zone from attacker side, is faster to slide than sprint from my experience anyway.

Or play cleaner and get the best of both worlds

@@Dirtytarget Exactly. why you would play those guns without cleaners is a plain mistery to me

From very careful testing and measurement in the practice zone

@@TheXclusiveAce Interesting. NerosCinema couldn't find any evidence in his testing, but I'm more inclined to believe you.

No shade toward Nero as I like him and his content but I don’t think detailed testing is his forte. It’s what I focus on full time and I’m very confident in my testing methods. There’s absolutely a reduction to range and my testing method showed it to be almost exactly 10% (it was slightly off but there’s a bit or a margin of error to consider since we can’t ping targets directly)

@@TheXclusiveAce You are indeed the detailed testing king, and it is always appreciated.

Probably not that many, I hope. I always stay away from those attachments because I fully expect them to harm my ttk in most situations with most guns. This just confirms that intuition ig

From reading comments I suppose it means you were hitting some lower torso shots, maybe? idk

I mean, that’s the point. Not everything is just a straight up upgrade for every gun. They have their uses on some things and not on others. And sometimes you can make up for downsides on things with other attachments.

Why not just put attachments that increase recoil control though?

@@Fantastic_Mr_Fox Obviously you use those too. The mdr has a lot of kick.

@@filmfaithandlevity Fair enough. I haven't used it personally, but I see your point

Both? Sprint to fire (STF) only applies when coming out of a sprint, ADS applies at all times. Therefore if your STF is faster than your ADS, you can start shooting before being fully ADS when coming out of a sprint. If they are equal, then nothing changes, and if your STF is slower than your ADS, you can be aiming down sights but not yet be able to shoot because your STF timeout is not over yet. Sprint to fire is the duration of time it takes until your gun is able to shoot after coming out of a sprint. ADS is how long it takes to ADS. They both run parallel to each other and do not stack. Ideally you'd want your STF to be the same as your ADS or slightly faster, never worse though

The recoil is happening a bit slower making it easier to compensate for. Its still the same amount but it's happening slower.

The heavy barrel is very good on the M4

Yeah I wish he hadn't said that, I think it misled a lot of people

Heavy barrel makes more sense, I suppose.

It hardly changes consistency as you appear to fire far more than 8 pellets per shot but only 8 can register per shot so odds are, you're going to be easily landing 8 up close either way and 7 will be rare. In saying this, I'll admit I need to do more detailed testing with shotguns and the practice zone can be a little limiting for that style of testing. I totally agree the M870 is super weak for a pump though and it likely needs some tuning.

​@@TheXclusiveAceSo even with 11 pellets (At least from my personal testing in the Practice Zone) only 8 can register at a time? Gosh dang that's either a massive bug or a really bad balancing choice. That's just weird. 😮

@@CmoIsDaNam3i I think, if it is true, that it is designed to improve consistency with the shotguns. I don't see how it is a "bad" balancing decision, as it has nothing to do with balancing really.

Yeah I've started using the vector and it's just... kind of insane. To be fair I was coming from doing pistols only (and not the best pistols at that) so the difference was going to be stark no matter what, But it feels as if I never lose a gunfight unless I just plain whiff or my opponent is also using the vector or a 1sk weapon

You probably missed most of your shot. This makes no sense, respectfully.

Most likely they didn't kill you with two bullets, it just feels that way because the netcode is bad. Basically you register the first bullet long after it has been fired, and by that time you are already dead

well of course, it'll always be a net loss on all weapons because of the percentage difference. Only ever worth it when theres breakpoints involved

Yeah no shit sherlock

Detailed view will show your range values, it will show for example M16 does 24 damage out to 31 meters, then 20 in the next range, and even less in the next. Just multiply the number and you're good. If a pistol has 10 meter range, then a barrel with +10% range will make it 11 meters.

Yeah and when it'll get nerfed, another weapon is gonna be overused lmao. Get over it and stop crying

@@DontGAFkid WTF? there is balance with some meta and there is everyone using a single overpowered gun LMAO, have you never played an online fps before? Sorry for the rude manners, but your response clearly makes it seem like either you don't play the game, you're a complete meta slave or you're just very lucky in which case I'm so jealous. I want the game to be better so talking about the issues gives better chance for the devs to hear about them and fix them. Believe me, if I was just crying I would have quit and wouldn't have commented, I'm not masochistic to play a game I do not enjoy or do not see myself enjoying after a few patches, especially if I didn't pay a penny for it

@@valakivalakifalvai137 I'm just able to do good with every gun since no gun is really overpowered and there is no sbmm at all

@@DontGAFkid Good for you, I'm just a person with limited time for gaming so I cannot keep up using an rpk against full 6 man parties with their 24/7 mp7s that literally kill over 1.5x faster, so I would like some way better balance, it is true that if you are good enough the weapons don't matter, but as I have a life and responsibilities, I don't have that time to get that good to where a 150 ms ttk difference where the average is 400 is something I laugh at... I do way better with the mp7/vector than I do with an mp5 and while I don't mind doing a little better with the meta guns, the night and day difference is where I say I don't like it. Also always getting killed by the same 3 guns instead of a variety with some being somewhat more common is frustrating after a while. (I do however think the mp7 and vector with their ttks are overpowered just for the record and if you disagree I would like you to try to tell me with objective numbers why should I ever use anything else over them for the general moving-around gameplay (so not camping/highly defensive playstyles))

​@valakivalakifalvai137 youre the one whos clearly never played an fps. I cant think of a single game that doesnt have meta weapons that get abused

Why reduce rate of fire for no upside?

@@TheXclusiveAce Does the rate of fire stat even do anything on bolt action sniper rifles?

Yeah you have no control over encountering phantoms which means you WILL be running into them and have to deal with them. Meanwhile, it's your choice to run cleaners so you should figure out for yourself if what you're doing is a good idea.

@@blackomega34 That, and also cleaners are *much* more complicated to figure out

If range is an issue, then increasing rate of fire isn't great either, you waste more ammo and experience more recoil. If you want range... take range attachments.

@@blackomega34 range stats dont really matter in this game. The benefits you get are negligible. Faster rof wins every time

​@@mellowistakenyou are dumb

@@mellowistaken You can increase your range by like 50% if you stack the right attachments. Also if range is an issue for you with the SMGs, you are using them wrong. All of the maps are perfectly usable at SMG ranges if you play smart and avoid long sightlines. And as he said, faster ROF means more recoil. Which is bad

@@Fantastic_Mr_Fox range is also something thats really not worth building into. The gains you get from max range especially on smgs is negligible. And yes with smgs you should be trying to fight within its intended range but that doesnt happen all the time. And when its outside of your range its only hurting you with heavy barrel. You’re really not going to notice a difference, it’s essentially wasting an attachment slot imo. You can go into the range and see the distance from 5 to 10 meters. As for recoil, atleast on PC, recoil is not an issue. I have no problem using max speed and rof and still being accurate. I understand it might be different on controller. But back to the original point, it would be better to go for more speed and rof or recoil control instead of using heavy barrel. It’s better to have a faster ttk at any range with rapid fire instead of a slightly faster one within range using heavy barrel. The only outliners are the m16, ak47, and maybe the mk20 if you’re on cleaner faction. Pretty much everything else just isn’t worth using the heavy barrel

People will always cry about something. Some guns are going to be better thzn other and it's ok. You can do good with all guns since there is no sbmm. Always nerfing/buffing everything is so boring. Enjoy the gun.

So it should just be a wasted slot?

​@@DekuSkrub2129its a wasted slot on most guns already

@@MrKing-he3eo and he wants it to be wasted on more weapons

@@DontGAFkid If guns are significantly better than others why would I use the weaker ones? Most people are gonna pick the meta options regardless of sbmm. There's nothing wrong with the weapon classes actually being balanced around each other. I cant enjoy a gun if the rest of the guns in its class are straight up better

In my experience it is very good on the M4. Needing one less bullet to kill is pretty nice. I'd say it tends to work pretty well for using guns at longer ranges.

No. I have no time in my schedule to manage a second channel

here is a thought why dont you start a second channel for Xgayfiant lol crazy how lazy youtuber viewers have become too lazy to go to his channel and use the search bar? not only that but you can go to this guys channel and look at playlists and bam all the xfiant vids in one spot man the IQ of the common gamer is sooo low now i blame all the soy and estrogen along with plastics in all foods now

@@TheXclusiveAceAnd many of us are just fine with that! Keep up the great content! 👊

People crying over Tac-50 yet Mp7, Acr and Ak47 are the real overpowered guns in game.

@@talhakelleci8260 Nah vector is worse than mp7 imo. mp7 is definitely overpowered, for sure, but the vector kills even faster