I love how Games Workshop has the unmitigated gall to use the word "Only" in front of the number 649.99

The Rogal Dorn model is surveying the area to see where fortifications are needed

You will probably never see this but the reason most of the primarch models are in an attacking pose is because they are made to be paired with a second primarch, the best example from memory is lemon russ and magnus the red where when put together look like they are attacking eachother

"Expensive side of the hobby" can we agree on "More expensive side of the hobby"? XD

You can't pick Dorn when 1) Perturabo's model exists and 2) you have to make a green stuff mustache for him

"the Driver can't see left or right" *stares in Bradley driver*

Damnnn some ballsy picks in the worst category lol

Personally I love how chunky the Mastodon is. Like it could just off a direct hit from an artillery shell.

Weirdly enough, I like literally all of the models in your worst list - especially the mastodon heavy transport.

As much as I appreciate FW models, I have a tough time purchasing items that at top cost still need a lot of remodeling & PRE-modeling before you can actually start. Great video

The only thing I disagree with is that big Nid. Love how it looks, propper alien vibe. Like it would reign terror on the battlefield, chopping everything to pieces and feasting upon their biomass. And my altime favourite FW sculpt is the Canoptek Heavy Construct as who doenst love the big spooderbot. I just wish it had some melee options for weapons.

Sitting here looking at my mastodon and my warlord titan with an unimpressed 10 metre stare going. "All around me are familiar faces ,worn out places ....."

The Sicaran tank: “guess they crawl out when there’s a problem” There’s NO problem - the Emperor Protects!

The Dimachaeron looks like the BIGGEST tipping hazard GW ever made... All the worst aspects of the hormagaunt models combined with the bulk of a Carnifex.

The problem is. 4 out of the 5 of your picks.. Are for Horus heresy and not 40k. They don't belong in the 40k shit aesthetic

What do you think of the sicaran venator with it’s fun moulded into the chassis? Edit: meant to say gun but I agree with autocorrect on this one 😂😂

The moment the mastodon bunny realisation dropped....

In regards to the Mastadon, I think a lot of people miss the point of the design of a lot of space marine vehicles, especially horus heresy ones, in that they're intentionally not designed to go in any direction other than forward, they're meant to just charge into the frontline and weather the storm, rather than relying on efficient turning. Also tracked vehicles tend to look like they can't turn despite they can quite easily and sometimes even better than wheeled vehicles. As for my top picks, XV9 battlesuits are the best out of the Tau range in my opinion, plus the fusion cascades give me hope for the rest of my fusion blaster heavy farsight enclaves army. However if I had to pick something out that I love the most it would probably be the solar auxilia lasrifle section, they're such awesome models and it's a shame that they're locked away as an almost too expensive army to field in a side game with very few players.

"It's unbecoming of Primarchs" Laughs in Leman Russ

I've found recasters do better moulds of FW stuff (shhhhh) , less trimming and work involved to build it, believe it or not. Nearly $800 for a complete supremacy armor or $150 for the same thing but better qaulity with less work needed.

We clearly have very different ideas on what makes a good/bad model 😅 The Dimachaeron is one of my favourite models as it's so reminiscent of the Xenomorph from Aliens. I think it being very spindly works given it's a fast attack model, I couldn't imagine the chunky nids sprinting across the battle field As far as the Primarchs go, I'm not a fan of Dorn, he just looks so dull not being in a pose. I favour Vulcan and The Lion

Nowadays GW can produce full plastic models on such a high quality level, I really don't understand why they still stick to FW.

As a man who literally just bought a Custodes Grav tank for my army that I’m learning how to paint… that will be my big piece

That green sicaran is my absolute favorite.

3:55 oh wow it does look like a bunny. Now I kind of want to find an excuse to include rabbit-themed stuff in a 40k army. Edit: I also love the Mournghul. I so want to get one and use greenstuff to turn it into SCP-096 and homebrew rules

So, I get exactly what you mean with the Mastadon, but I love it for the same reasons

I disagree with some of you picks but you have very valid points. Also, FW is not just about the « details »... it’s the whole esthetic ...

I love the FW carnifex with he claws and rams

Truthfully, I kinda like the mastodon. I like big, clunky APCs with a bunch of guns poking out everywhere. It looks like it's meant to be a big battering ram that drops troops out when it breaks through the wall.

Someone-tells Angron to stand still. Angron- Brain aneurysm rage intensifies!

Dimachaeron is one of my favourite Tyranid models 😂 I don't play without bringing mine, love it to bits

Personally my favourite are the Custodian Venatari Squad. They’re just so cool to look at and have some great poses

the tyranid dimachareon is like my all time favourite tyranid model, and that is coming from someone who has the entire FW and GW tyranid range almost.

The Mastodon is my absolute favourite Forge World model. Ouch.

I gotta say i very much disagree with nearly all of these options, but its cool you shared them

Mecha bunny and Tau Polly-woggs, I can't un-see that now!

This idea that plastic is on par with resin casting annoys me. Plastics have improved immensely, but as long as they are metal injections molds, they *cannot* have superior detail to resin, due to the way undercuts work. Additionally, resin kits will have fantastically detailed parts cast whole. You don't have to glue 2 to 5 pieces together to get the solid part, and then deal with seams (which GW is horrible at properly hiding 90% of the time). The plastic kits are great, but soft mold resin casts can't *really* be entirely replaced for fine/intricate detail across curved features.

I can actually give a logical defense for the sicaran (welp the first few complaints at least) The sloped front armor would actually be a desirable design as slopped armor offers more effective armor thickness vs the same thickness of armor on a flat angle. The benefit of that is probably rendered nonexistent against none solid ammunition’s, but there is a logic to the design. The drivers view port is actually pretty logical as well. In most tanks the driver already has a limited field of view usual only straight forward as the commander is supposed to be the eyes not the driver. A good example of this can be seen in the German Panzer IV the tank has a very flat unobstructed front, but the driver still had a very limited field of view because it just didn’t matter too much. Early versions featured a forward facing view port and one on either side of the hull; latter models deleted the side view ports for a number of reasons including ease of production and putting skirt armor on the tank that would cover the view ports. The field of view isn’t strictly speaking a problem. And the turret is a hot mess that looks awful and really should be way more beefy.

I don’t know, Leman Russ seems pretty in his element mid swing and screaming

the Mastodon is not manouverable because He Just charges head- on into walls

I agree with everything exept the Mastodon. Its a beast! Best looking tank Gw ever made.

Don't really have a top and bottom five. But if I have to pick most likely to buy it would be the astreus. Thing just looks so sick. Least likely would be the titans. Would not be able to recover from them financialy.

Fun fact: the ability of tracked vehicles to turn is all about ratios. The maximum length to width ratio is 5:3 for the tank to be able to turn. So long as the Mastodon's tracks keep these ratios, it can turn just fine, no matter how big and cumbersome it seems to be.

Always loved the Tantalus, Scorpion II, and the Nightwing. :) super lucky to have these in my collection too. Great video :)

"Here are Forgeworld's worst models" *Proceeds to list all of their best models* I'm legitimately scared of what you'd consider "good"

I love these videos , you should do one for every faction!

What really threw me off was the complaint about spindly little weapon mounts, while, without trying to be offensive, I believe that Cerastus Knights are the definition of spindly and disproportionate (at least in 40k).

My top forgeworld I would love to have, but never justify paying the price for are: A warlord Titan, Thunderhawk Gunship, and Sanguinius, he would be really fun to paint, too bad his base is not the large epic base he came with originally.

what kinda rubs me the wrong way is the selectivness of what is plausable in reality and what´s not. Yes, the turret weapons would irl snap off.. probably, they might be from some futuristic alloy, but alright. But then I remember that just humble rhino is powered by nuclear reactor and Space Marines have 2 hearths and multiple organs.. would it work? no... is it alright? yes, because sci-fi and saying that a turret is wrong because it´s not structuraly sound (from our, today´s perspective), while just the Space Marines are not plausible themselves... I don´t know. I would either accept it as a whole or critique everything from the same baseline. Love the vid, love the list, but not the logic behind it.

The only primarch they got right with a charging pose is angron. Do you really see that guy having a chill pose. Na that’s guys going in like the demented psycho he is

I loved having the fw varient leman russ hull or turrets. Made my tanks unique in a more subtle way.

Forgeworld is the expensive side? I thought all sides are expensive

I have to disagree with the Mastadon. I think the big bulky brick looks cool😂

How can you hate the mastodon. It’s one of my favourite models

Having seen the mourngul in person I can say for a fact that it is one of the best FW sculpts in terms of small parts and how well it comes together. The khorne demon prince on the other hand

A fun little anomaly is that some of the older FW 40k and Fantasy character models are now cheaper than their mundane equivalents in GW plastic.

I've actually been buying a couple models from them lately . one of my favorite of all time models is the Night Lord praetor with jump pack, I love that guy and modded 2 of them so they are 40k legal, I also got the Night Lords Leviathan which is beyond cool! I also have the Trog hag and the Belladonna model coming in the mail soon, can't wait!

Not tried against a stompa, but my knight lancer took out a gorkanaut in one turn of combat.

Lol your opening statements about a centrpiece to your army for folks to goggle at is exactly what i was going for with my ebay rescue baneblade conversion. Got it for a steal as the previous owner had half converted it and lost motivation. I did get a macharius vanquisher from forgeworld (which along with the baneblade are my favorite 40k tanks and they are buddies in their own little squadron.

The Dimacheron is wrong because it has no building to lean on. If you add some conversion bits and building terrain onto the base, it will look more realistic and normal.

My favorite is the Gargantuan Squiggoth

I agree with the weird treads on the Sicarian tank, they should be the other way around if you look at the inspiration, the British WW1 Mark tanks. The view port reminds me of the Churchill tank, which was even worse.

Hell yeah man, that lancer cerastus is EASILY one of my favorite knights. I'd love to pick one up if I ever go crazy into mechanicus or something.

Theae videos are pretty fun to watch and enjoyable.

I quite like the Mastodon, its built like a brick but a heavy transport should be. The only major change i would want is the front treads being protected

I really like the Flyers of Forgeworld. They look really cool but are not all that competitive usually. And so expensive you got to sell your army to get it for your army.

I disagree with the mastodon but I guess different strokes for different folks

My only issue with the Cerastus knights is that their legs are weirdly, un detailed or just too skinny. I love the castigator, but the legs keep me from pulling the trigger. I REALLY want to model one cutting a rhino in half or something like that.

I've probably had the chaos dwarf line in my cart for a decade. Finally decided to pull the trigger after the holidays and they're going OOP. FW you cruel mistress.

Ow, I actually love the forgeworld Tyranid :( It's a weird one for sure but the detail is insane and you can do so much with it

I dont think the scaling is correct on any of the vehicles. The rhino for eg would at a squeeze fit tau but not space marines.

I used to work at a games store where warhammer was the "big deal." Eventually their hype got me swept up and I wanted to build an army, but nothing appealed to me in the plastic range. Eventually, I discovered forge world and fell for the death korps of krieg. friend at the store helped me build up a good 2500 point first timer list and I bit the bullet and bought an entire krieg army, including armor, with the exception of chimeras and Valkyries which were in plastic. Eventually, it spun out of control and every piece of my army had some sort of custom resin piece or modification on them. I was up to $1.00 per point, roughly. Insanity. Eventually I sold off the army, which I regret sometimes. I play Lamenters space marines now because primaris has improved the figure scale, but I agree, scale is a mess.

Your top two picks are some of my bottom picks (respectfully). Dorn is just standing there, looking unaware of the fact he's on a battlefield. Yeah they're super human, I would expect him to make that pose sitting on the war council, not after slaying Night Lords. The knights are also too skinny. I don't know how you can think the tanks look flimsy in the gun department when the knights look like a light breeze would knock them over. I will still watch your vids.

cant do my dimachaeron wrong like this, its the most fun model iver ever made and painted, the mastodon is also tracked so it can very easily turn since it just needs specific tracks to run and not actually turn wheels

Can’t believe that Sanguinius didn’t make your list of garbage sculpts. As a Blood Angels player since the late ‘80s I was incredibly disappointed when I got the kit. Tried to think of ways to salvage him but just couldn’t come up with anything that made me happy. Ending up selling it off.

What 3D printer did you use to print these out? They look gorgeous

You are bashing most of these models because of their realism. 100% of all 40k models are unrealistic :)

My biggest problem with the sicarian is where they decided to put the gate for the resin flow on the hull. right on the flat surface on the backpannel you have a hughe chunk of resin to cut off. yeah these are advanced builders models, but when i pay and eye and a leg for a model i kinda expect to not have to saw of a large chunk of resin on one of the most visible parts of the model....twice... but those FW knight....damn they are so sexy. the lancer is the reason i started a Knight Army. FW kinda lost their magic. back then they were specialised to build large models that coudnt be made with plastic and the sight of one of their models was awesome. now they make a bunch of WAY overpriced minitures for their special games (75€ for an Aeronautica Model? WTF?!?), make awesome miniatures for their dead (?) heresy game that could also be made in plastic and suffer from quality issues. imo GW should try to move a large potion of the FW range to plastic and focus them again on larger than life models (and put reasonable prices on them...)

Top five favorite Forgeworld models 1) Great unclean one -Nice big model, ugly, dirty, detailed, grandfather is proud 2) Armageddon Pattern Basilisk - Big gun with protection 3) Macharius Vulcan- I’m an ex A-10 mechanic, anything with a gatling cannon is good: bbbbrrrrttttt 3) Fire Raptor Gunship - see three, plus it looks cool 4) Storm Eagle - see three again plus looks cool My top 5 models that suck from Forgeworld models 1) Legion Kharybdis assault claw: just don’t like the way it looks 2) Keeper of secrets: give me the creeps 3) Khorne Blood Slaughter 4) Khorne Blood Slaughter Impaler' 5) Serptek Heavy Construct: I play Necrons and I’m not feeling this big focus fire target I like the Sicaran tanks for some reason, I don't have any problems with your choices, only thing is i am purposely saving for the Fire raptor gunship and Storm Eagle don't know if I will get to use them in a game and that's OK. Just for display and a project would be awesome.

*inhales extremely heavily* Did you just insult my mastodon? My might box? King of the box cars? _That you have the gall_

I love my Great Knarlocs from FW, wish they hadn't discontinued them.

"Most of the characters are in mid swing and have a scream on their face, which I think is wrong for Primarchs." CLEARLY You don't know what kind of person Angron is. :P

Legion Sicaran and the Matodon are both goofy, but they're a kind of goofy that appeals to me. I want to give them a high-effort but conceptually-malformed paintjob (like a high-detail Imperial Fists attempt done with craft paints) and slap 'em next to some old-school minimarines. Edit: actually, craft paints usually have yellows with surprisingly good coverage, so pretend I said Crimson Fists.

my top forge world model is the night lords Contemptor dreadnought, and thanks to some rando who decided to sell theirs unopened to my local game store, I now own one!

Just got Grendl Grendlsen Squat Bounty Hunter. Such a cool model. bring back SQUATS!

My personal favourite model is the Legion Praetor, with the Cerastus Knights (and generally the entire imperial Knight line) coming in second, and probably some of the larger eldar wraith constructs after that.

5:17 i have to disagree with because the stormraven is meant for fast attack mainly used by tie blood angels and they’re a fast attack melee army

The fact their used to be a metap thunderhawk blows my mind with its size

I love my dorn sculpt so much, when I first got him I gave him some FATT mutton chops with some green stuff.

I love the Grunt tanks, the Custodes dreadsnoughts and pretty much all the IK they made (and I think some should make it to the regular plastic range). Also all the Mechanicum stuff for Horus Heresy. It's a damn shame we can't play these figs in 40k because. I find all theur robots far superior to the 40k robots.

Honestly, I've always thought the Cerastus Knights looked a little bit.... weird and stretched out? Maybe I got too used to the normal look, but I'm just not a huge fan?

I'm new to the hobby but I hope to one day pick up one of those Word Bearers Possessed Space Marine Dreadnaught Hybrid things. (Forgot the name)

Apparently the Sokar Pattern Stormbird is the price the Space Marine players need to pay in order to embark Primaris Units on a flyer. Seriously, it's the only one. The Astreaus Heavy Tank has the flyer key word, but it can't embark troops. The Repulsor, Impuslor and Gladiators can embark Primaris, but can't fly. The Sokar Pattern Stormbird is literally the only flying vehicle available to the Astartes that has rules to Transport Primaris Marines.

The 40k in the name stands for the price of forgeworld stuff

I've never seen anyone be so wrong about what they like, smh

The mourngul looks like scp 096

I have to disagree with you on the Primarch thin if only because the mid swing/scream thing is very on point for a few of the primarchs like Angron.

I have the Tau start collecting box and thats all i ever use lol

Sicaran tanks are amazing. Sig does suck because he's squat dumb marine. The Dimachaeron is amazing. Mastodon is amazing. It does not look like a bunny. Stormbired is amazing. So wrong on most counts but that's ok.

I actually liked the thunderhawk transport, the version that could carry two Rhinos or a Land Raider. Those rear echelon units (centaur or powerlifter are other good exmples) are kinda cool, but make zero sense on the battlefield. You wouldn't deop you tanks directly into battle with that thing!