These Air Rifles are as Powerful As A 22, Will it Replace Rimfire?

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Күн бұрын

In today's video we look at emerging technology in powerful Air Rifles. In the future could these be more ubiquitous as the technology matures? Are the rifles as they stand right now worth it? Tune in to today's video to find out!
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@FriskyDecisions
@FriskyDecisions Жыл бұрын
In the UK these are considered ‘bazooka airguns’ and are punishable by up to 150 wags of the finger and 3 concurrent life sentences
@indoorkite651
@indoorkite651 Жыл бұрын
is one wag from left to right, or left right left?
@jeremyk_541
@jeremyk_541 Жыл бұрын
This is painful... We need to free our British cousins from tyranny...
@rodsongreen5249
@rodsongreen5249 Жыл бұрын
Has to be licenced but we gave them. If they are over 12 ft/lbs, shame they gave to be licenced if they are over that.
@TheRealAb216
@TheRealAb216 Жыл бұрын
@@jeremyk_541 they don't have any oil
@MrSlopywaffle115
@MrSlopywaffle115 Жыл бұрын
​@@rodsongreen5249 as your American Cousin. I hate yalls government for you the people. May the spirit of P.A. Ludy live on in the hearts of the few freedom loving Brits out there still
@OpaKnows
@OpaKnows Жыл бұрын
“If I was a better shot and had no wind” it would be a tighter group. Can confirm, this is true. Thank you, Mr Garand Thumb.
@jessegrisham
@jessegrisham Жыл бұрын
By that standard, I can shoot as well as he can too!
@puffherb
@puffherb Жыл бұрын
Yeah, there's a lot of crumple zones in that statement lol
@Patrick-857
@Patrick-857 Жыл бұрын
These things are a lot more accurate than rimfire. That's not up for debate at this point. There are pros and cons to both, but I'm really surprised people don't realise that a lot of airguns are more powerful than even 22WMR and getting well up into the larger handgun calibers in terms of muzzle energy with some, like the AEA Zeus ect, which can deliver around 1000 ft/lbs of energy. The thing is, these are tunable to a degree no powder burner ever will be. And in the matches this particular airgun is designed for, it's actually got an unfair advantage. One thing they didn't mention in the video is the grain weights it's able to shoot, which can be heavier than 22LR, and the fact that modern airgun slugs have higher BCs than 22LR, and that it normally being subsonic isn't actually a disadvantage either because nobody uses supersonic 22LR in competitions for the exact same reason nobody shoots airguns supersonic, the projectile falls back through the sound barrier and destabilizes before it gets to the target. In short, this can do everything a competition 22LR can, but better.
@iangracey8001
@iangracey8001 Жыл бұрын
K B my I lol Carlos
@WitchyWagonReal
@WitchyWagonReal Жыл бұрын
Excuses, excuses… listen, me and my buddies would sit on the tractor, aiming freehand from the shoulder- and we’d shoot the tips off Crayola crayons we dug standing upright in the dirt at 743yds (uh, yeah, with irons; duh… what you think you’re better because you can afford an Eotech 512?)… and if you’re wondering why it’s so specific, obviously not only did we laser range it, but one time we bought all the tailors’ tape measures from the Walmart in the next town over, and spliced them together and got a hard read on it. It got to where we were so bored with it, just to make it a challenge we’d do it thunderstorm weather- during a tornado warning. And we’re not talking .22 LR… we’re talking .177 pellets from Crosman pumps. So, ya know… ya get no sympathy for a little breeze. It’s getting to be that kids today can’t shoot worth a shit, looks like. 🙄
@ZZKJ396
@ZZKJ396 11 ай бұрын
BTW, The oldest existing mechanical air gun, dates back to about 1580, and is in the Livrustkammaren Museum in Stockholm. This is approximately when most historians recognize as the beginning of the modern air gun. Thats 224 years before Lewis and Clark.
@Adierit
@Adierit 10 ай бұрын
Well, compressing air has been done for a long while to be fair. In fact, the first bellows are a method for compressing air.
@trev5.566
@trev5.566 9 ай бұрын
Lewis and Clark took a few air guns with them on they’re expedition as well. Forgotten weapons did a video on one.
@jon-michaelsampson1120
@jon-michaelsampson1120 8 ай бұрын
This is America. The old world is called old for a reason. We do not care!
@backwardog1
@backwardog1 8 ай бұрын
Noted.. the airgun that went west traveled with Lewis and Clark. We appreciate those that came before.
@Beuwen_The_Dragon
@Beuwen_The_Dragon 7 ай бұрын
@@jon-michaelsampson1120speak for yourself.
@m9078jk3
@m9078jk3 Жыл бұрын
My favorite large bore Airgun is the Zalinski airguns used on the U.S.S. Vesuvius (1888) that had 15 inch bores and launched dynamite filled projectiles.
@nimnow8060
@nimnow8060 Жыл бұрын
;) Spudgun 300'd 3'r ;) oops😮
@PeterCieply
@PeterCieply Жыл бұрын
Uh what? Explosive bb's?
@ourshelties7649
@ourshelties7649 Жыл бұрын
It freaked the Spanish out because with no blast from the guns, they had no idea where it was coming from.
@m9078jk3
@m9078jk3 Жыл бұрын
@@ourshelties7649 Yes an early Stealth weapon
@matthewsmiley3630
@matthewsmiley3630 9 ай бұрын
That’s really cool! I’m glad you mentioned that, I’m gonna go look it up and read more about it
@fell9654
@fell9654 Жыл бұрын
If the AFT can declare a piece of plastic not related to the trigger a machine gun, then they can also break the laws of physics to declare an air gun a "firearm"
@therocketeergamer7952
@therocketeergamer7952 Жыл бұрын
Well Canada considers anything over 500 fps a firearm and you need your un restricted fire arms license... Its so atupid, i wanted to biy the sig mcx pellet gun its advertised as 480 fps on their website but canada decided to i guess take the highest fps one of them made which was 540 fps so nope.. Cant own it.. Im going to gwt both my restricted and un restricted, and also gunamithing licnesce so i can own more guns than most people lol
@Sniperboy5551
@Sniperboy5551 Жыл бұрын
The Supreme Court (as it currently is) would never let that happen
@alanhelton
@alanhelton Жыл бұрын
Don’t put that evil on us FellICA!
@AllThingsLoud_
@AllThingsLoud_ Жыл бұрын
I think New York has already done this
@ThePreparedSailor
@ThePreparedSailor Жыл бұрын
ATF rules are not laws.
@angry_ike7628
@angry_ike7628 Жыл бұрын
Fun history fact: Lewis and Clark took an air rifle for hunting on their expedition, and saved the gunpowder they took for demonstrating muskets to Native American tribes they encountered along the way as a way of sparking trade with the government. The Smithsonian has the air rifle they took, and Robert Beeman of Beeman Air Rifles made a reproduction using experimental archaeology to see how powerful it would have been new. Collaborating with other historians working on reproductions of other period air rifles, Dr. Beeman determined that the rifle Lewis and Clark had would have been on par with modern .38 Special in terms of terminal ballistics. Anyone wanting to read the actual article Dr. Beeman wrote should web search 'Beeman Girandoni reproduction.'
@Sniperboy5551
@Sniperboy5551 Жыл бұрын
Garand Thumb made a reference to L&C in the intro
@Dan-yh4th
@Dan-yh4th Жыл бұрын
Holy shit I didn't know, that's crazy
@CT-qz4tr
@CT-qz4tr Жыл бұрын
I think the air rifle they took needed like 800+ "pumps" to be at capacity and the dudes would do it in shifts. For only a few shots, too. Sounds like a nightmare
@jesseclark2435
@jesseclark2435 Жыл бұрын
For anyone who is curious this is real and not an elaborate troll to trick you into searching for something disgusting. This guy’s search is 100% safe and fascinating. I also learned that their expedition was nicknamed the “lemon party”. Google that too to learn more.
@luislongoria6621
@luislongoria6621 Жыл бұрын
​@@CT-qz4tr A modern dual stroke airgun pump is good for 150-200 strokes which is why you can buy a 12v compressor
@AllThingsMech
@AllThingsMech Жыл бұрын
Had a whole crew of guys come out to the ranch with these to hunt ground squirrels. Very economical critter control, extremely impressive performance.
@heithwatkins
@heithwatkins 10 ай бұрын
A very big part of this is Matt Dubber. He personally spent countless hours on slug technology. Fredrik Axelsson said Matt was the reason behind this advancement in slugs. Matt Dubber deserves to be mentioned here. 🎯👍
@TheNapalmFTW
@TheNapalmFTW Жыл бұрын
I used to use airguns like this back in the UK before I moved here. Anything over 12 ft/lbs was a "felony" but we still turned them up anyway.
@ragingcomedy1835
@ragingcomedy1835 Жыл бұрын
how do you tune them up? asking for a friend
@JohnnyBGood1970
@JohnnyBGood1970 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the UK has some of the worst Firearms laws in the world. It's laughable
@airgunfun4248
@airgunfun4248 Жыл бұрын
well unless you had FAC right?
@anotheryoutuber2463
@anotheryoutuber2463 Жыл бұрын
@@ragingcomedy1835 try helium...
@jamesdunning8650
@jamesdunning8650 Жыл бұрын
13ft/ lbs is laughable
@kevindvorak742
@kevindvorak742 Жыл бұрын
It was very satisfying to hear the pings from the long-range targets on the hill. 300 yards with an air gun. Impressive. Very nice. 😎
@Telmach
@Telmach Жыл бұрын
Let's see Paul Allen's.
@luislongoria6621
@luislongoria6621 Жыл бұрын
😂 There goes my comment. That's actually the sound of the receiver vibration. PCP models use a disk valve
@musaadfelton3909
@musaadfelton3909 Жыл бұрын
Gorgeous man! Absolutely phenomenal. I love this video man. I love the setting and I love the view. Feels like a huge man cave. 💪💪
@Ryan_Wiseman
@Ryan_Wiseman Жыл бұрын
I have a Seneca Dragon Claw, and this very much gets close to on par with some guns. A 50 cal pellet (210-550 grain) at 230-240 fpe. That's well enough power to leave a giant exit wound, as its been shown in ballistics tests as very effective
@pinocolada4254
@pinocolada4254 10 ай бұрын
Those things are very easy to give a power tune. Look online if your interested. The easiest tunes can be done at home without a mill or lathe. You can get way more power out of those platforms. 1 thing to remind is, if you give it a power tune, its smart to exchange the sliding loading gate thingy with a custom machines thicker walled one. Here in the Netherlands we know of some incidents with power tuned Sam Yang's (your Seneca is build by Sam Yang in Korea) on which the loading sliding thingy exploded. Yes we have big bores in the Netherlands, we are not restricted to caliber or energy, only rule, an airgun cannot be a direct lookalike of any firearm. The Shin Sungs from the 90s 00s didnt have fragmenting sliding loading thingys. Sam Yang copied the Shin Sungs, but on the other hand Shin Sungs kinda copied the Yewha Dynamite airgun the Moonie cult invented. Information overload😂 Edit, exchanging hanmer and valve spring can give you the power level you already have but a more economical air consumption/less hanmer bounce= more shots per fill and a way lighter trigger.
@itsadoggydogworld8974
@itsadoggydogworld8974 5 ай бұрын
Air Texan pushes a 300 grain at 850fps. Easily with the carbon fiber tank
@tiivc
@tiivc Жыл бұрын
Reminder that Girardoni airguns were actually the high-end DM rifles of the late 18th century, with some attributes of an AR. I mean it sucked by modern standards, and you essentially had to be a specialized mobile gunsmith in addition to a rifleman if you wanted to actually keep it running. But when they worked, they literally had about as much firepower as a modern magazine-fed manual action 22, which for a shoulder rifle in 1800 is almost incomprehensible.
@toshironif
@toshironif Жыл бұрын
They also saw extremely limited use in war (Prussians). Unfortunately, the technology wasn't dependable enough with manufacturing limitations & high cost for widespread use.
@FoxtrotFleet
@FoxtrotFleet Жыл бұрын
Napoleon hated air rifles and had anyone captured using one executed. Bad for morale, silent shots.
@tiivc
@tiivc Жыл бұрын
@@FoxtrotFleet That seems extremely doubtful. Soldiers come up with all kinds of insane local house rules about what weapons are allowed because they're in the shit and trying to survive. In a Napoleonic context, you would have said it's Napoleon's order. Today it still shows up in a weird form in the half-truth that says some lawyer somewhere will prosecute you for war crimes if you use a .50 on a guy. It's just an echo of the fact that people who don't have .50s to use on guys would like to pretend it's an atrocity when the other team has them.
@tiivc
@tiivc Жыл бұрын
@@toshironif Yeah it made no sense because if you needed that much cost and specialized guild knowledge (maintainers, trainers etc) to operate it, it could just be an artillery piece. There were very few legitimate situations where it actually made sense to take it. In all honesty its best possible use probably would have been as a gift for savage tribal leaders, as long as you were able to make it clear to them privately that it was useless and just a totem for overawing people with occasional staged demonstrations.
@FoxtrotFleet
@FoxtrotFleet Жыл бұрын
@@tiivc What are you saying? That French troops did not execute people found with air rifles as recorded and that Napoleon did not ban them in France?
@drew1427
@drew1427 Жыл бұрын
They make 7.62 air rifles that are crazy powerful. I'd love to see you guys check those ones out too!
@Westcoast3d2a
@Westcoast3d2a Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say crazy powerful, still 2-300 foot pounds of energy, even the 50 cal air gun doesn’t have crazy power at around 500 foot pounds
@vuk0811
@vuk0811 Жыл бұрын
yes , I have one of those but mine is called ak 47 ab2
@seanmacha2668
@seanmacha2668 Жыл бұрын
AEA Zues .72 Cal, 1500 fpe, it is a monster
@VulgrDisplay
@VulgrDisplay Жыл бұрын
They don't penetrate as well as .25 or .22 air rifles.
@Daniel-rk3vf
@Daniel-rk3vf Жыл бұрын
@@mistaajones That's not an "air gun", that's an "air musket"!
@skinny1968
@skinny1968 3 ай бұрын
Used to have a.177 pump air rifle. Took it apart put a piece of inner tube in the bleed off valve so it couldn't bleed off. It could put a bb right through a car door into the interior. Awesome.
@garymessina1609
@garymessina1609 Жыл бұрын
Awesome fun excellent video thanks Mike and Micah
@Gman-109
@Gman-109 Жыл бұрын
I do a lot of rimfire shooting in high winds (prairies of central Canada), both .22 and .17HMR, so I'm pretty familiar with the conditions in this video, shooting lightweight low velocity projectiles - all I can say is holy hell, that group in those winds is INSANE. Then the course of fire near the end of the video, making one shot hits at those windspeeds and with changing direction that was obvious in the vid....wow, that rifle/system is an incredible performer. I have some Olympic style/quality air pistols, but have no experience with air rifles such as this. That's going to be changing, now. Currently trying to find a dealer in Canada for this rifle/company, and if not, I'll just purchase one next time I'm at my US property. Impressive, not often I'm sold on something I just see online. -EDIT Found a Canadian distributor/dealer, it's on FX's website, easy peasy.
@hankvana2149
@hankvana2149 Жыл бұрын
Check out the Panthera and the Impact. I have both, (in .22 caliber, 700mm barrel) different airguns for different applications - they are great shooters!
@mightyjoeyoung1390
@mightyjoeyoung1390 Жыл бұрын
​@@hankvana2149 Pretty sure that IS the Panthera...
@hankvana2149
@hankvana2149 Жыл бұрын
@@mightyjoeyoung1390 yup, the airgun in the video is the Panthera. I use mine (with an extra front mounted bottle) as a dedicated bench rifle. Didn't know the commenter's intrests so I suggested checking out the Impact as it's an excellent all around target, pesting, plinking, hunting airgun. Cheers!
@wagwon1297
@wagwon1297 Жыл бұрын
You gotta hook a homie up in central Canada I would love a 22
@lca89
@lca89 Жыл бұрын
​@wagwon1297 Check out my other comment about Canada Shooting supplies if you're in canada. They have great stuff there
@mauricesparks5709
@mauricesparks5709 Жыл бұрын
A lot of people here in California are buying these air powered rifles and like they said you can learn the fundamentals of marksmanship with these and you dont need a range or even be out of city limits to shoot em... I love all this
@elix901
@elix901 Жыл бұрын
If you don't get caught 😂. Even I texas legally you need 10 acres of land between you and your neighbors to shoot air rifles on your own land. We even allow hunts with them now the 357 calibers and 45 is allowed for hog hunts.
@JohnGalt-vr3lx
@JohnGalt-vr3lx Жыл бұрын
​@@elix901 actually that is only if you are inside city limits. If you live in texas and you live in a city, you are missing the whole point of texas
@JohnGalt-vr3lx
@JohnGalt-vr3lx Жыл бұрын
I have real bad news for you, but every city and county in California I know of or worked in, had laws restricting air gun use. There were also other agencies such as park districts etc that had rules. If you live in a small city far from everyone, it might be legal. But check very carefully.
@elix901
@elix901 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnGalt-vr3lx correct but, that's where all the jobs are lol.
@mauricesparks5709
@mauricesparks5709 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnGalt-vr3lx oh I know about the laws but just saying if you are not stupid about it most people wouldn't even know you were plinking some targets. I mean if you dont have any room between you and the neighbor then dont be shooting but if you have some space you can pop some rounds.
@lamoe4175
@lamoe4175 5 ай бұрын
I live in the Philippines, shoot a locally assembled, 18" barrel, 22 cal. Cost was $225 - used. At 50 yards hold a 3/4" spread (.375" from center) with the Diablo type pellet (cost $0.02 - 2 US cents each). Scope, bipod, no bag. At 30 yards puts rounds through 0.6mm steel roofing. Typ bottle PSI is 3,000 and shoot down to 2,000. Actual "shooting" psi at 1,500. BTW I'm 76 and use a 4 stage Hunter Antler hand pump.
@nighthunterz00z45
@nighthunterz00z45 Жыл бұрын
Dude. The landscape. So beautiful!
@timb9212
@timb9212 2 ай бұрын
Yes the world gets more beautiful the farther you get from people
@Anolbea
@Anolbea Жыл бұрын
We use .22 and .17 for pest control (rats, Pidgeon, squirrel,rabbit and corvids) but also use FAC air rifles specifically in barns and outbuilding that use asbestos sheeting as cladding also useful for urban areas where residents tend to be rather sensitive about fluffy things and noise. Air rifle have their place, my favorite go to is an old tuned Daystate pcp rentokill rifle that never fails, whisper quiet, extremely accurate and effective. Underrated tool for light pest control.
@harpintn
@harpintn Жыл бұрын
A crazy cat lady used to live next to me. That is all I am saying.
@Sora2529
@Sora2529 Жыл бұрын
​@@harpintn I'll move in
@harpintn
@harpintn Жыл бұрын
@@Sora2529 She has been gone for a few years now, and an elderly cat free couple lives there. We still have a couple of cats wandering the neighborhood, but not the plague of cats that we had.
@FrogOf4Chan
@FrogOf4Chan Жыл бұрын
@@harpintn I'd kill for a plague of cats, I have skunks and other miscreants around my house.
@phoenixprogaming3844
@phoenixprogaming3844 Жыл бұрын
Better than an AR15
@WitchyWagonReal
@WitchyWagonReal Жыл бұрын
The first “real” guns I got to shoot as a child were airguns in Norway… we visited my Mama’s aunt’s house, and her son had some pump air guns. My mother was an anti-gun absolutist- not even toy guns. Which of course sent me straight to a Woolworth’s on my 18th birthday to buy a pistol grip Mossberg 500 pump ($218 out the door…). It looked like the coolest! 😆
@grahamtotte7133
@grahamtotte7133 Жыл бұрын
I find it hilarious when moms refuse to give their sons the toy guns they want and the kid just picks up a gun shaped stick and uses that. You can't stop a boy from being a boy and most little boys are obsessed with weapons of every kind.
@Miraak0Konahrik
@Miraak0Konahrik Жыл бұрын
@@grahamtotte7133 There was an interesting interview with parents here in switzerland, where the general consensus was that they think taking toyguns away from kids is stupid, we simply need to teach them that real guns are NOT like their toys and shouldnt be treated like them. So that was very based of my countrymen.
@1waltrp
@1waltrp Жыл бұрын
Airgun featured here is an FX airgun, made in Sweden. They are known for their advanced rifle/barrel design, air pressure regulation, ammunition and most of all their accuracy.
@EarthSurferUSA
@EarthSurferUSA Жыл бұрын
How did your Mother get that way?
@EarthSurferUSA
@EarthSurferUSA Жыл бұрын
@@1waltrp I know them for introducing a new gun, (.35 cal.Impact), wanting a down payment, and people not getting them for over a year.
@441rider
@441rider 6 ай бұрын
1952 Crosman 101 tuned up pushes 800fps plus with 10 pumps and is rifled. Most versatile US invention imo. BSA has great early air rifles as well.
@withoutfurtheradoforever
@withoutfurtheradoforever Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the name drop, Bro!
@ElBandido_1
@ElBandido_1 Жыл бұрын
Smol bike big mike
@hannahingram9397
@hannahingram9397 11 ай бұрын
Yeetus
@aceman1126
@aceman1126 9 ай бұрын
Don't you bring the first lady into this!
@fpsVAMPZ
@fpsVAMPZ 8 ай бұрын
​@@aceman1126"lady"
@aceman1126
@aceman1126 8 ай бұрын
@@fpsVAMPZ lol oof sorry I forgot the quotation marks but yes you are correct "lady" is much more accurate
@hunterbradley5550
@hunterbradley5550 Жыл бұрын
Turned 17 yesterday, my parents signed waivers for me to get training. Thanks for setting me on this path Mike!!!
@birdperson2540
@birdperson2540 Жыл бұрын
This is the way🤙
@vicdiaz5180
@vicdiaz5180 Жыл бұрын
You are going to pass the knowledge and freedom to your generation!
@ThePolysyllabist
@ThePolysyllabist Жыл бұрын
Training is a force multiplier. You can only run one gun at a time, but training can easily quadruple your effectiveness with it. And you can pass that training and know-how along to any number of other folk, for free, at any time, and provide a force multiplier for them as well. Good for you dude. Good headspace.
@beebns
@beebns Жыл бұрын
Happy birthday :) 🎉
@joemama69448
@joemama69448 Жыл бұрын
That's Mr. Thumb to you!
@mattsplatquadfun3219
@mattsplatquadfun3219 10 ай бұрын
Great vid! I own the OG FX Impact.
@Brody_J
@Brody_J Жыл бұрын
Lived in Idaho my entire life, not sure how I just barely found your channel but love the content.
@phantomshtter
@phantomshtter Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I've been an air gunner for the last 10 years and let me tell you, the precision is unbelievable but so is the price for a piece of kit like this. You're looking at 3k+ on this setup! Also air guns are available in calibers to take bear with... no joke.
@luislongoria6621
@luislongoria6621 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, it's mainly the glass
@WAUCE7
@WAUCE7 Жыл бұрын
Yeah and the FX bullets are twice the price of a multi component .22 cartridges.
@tonyelbows8045
@tonyelbows8045 Жыл бұрын
3K is 2.5K too much
@hstone-kf7su
@hstone-kf7su Жыл бұрын
@@tonyelbows8045 sorry you’re poor
@RonJeremy514
@RonJeremy514 Жыл бұрын
@@hstone-kf7su The ATF can make you poor too if you want to buy a suppressor, a machine gun, a drop-in auto sear, « pistols ». Civil rights, yes, it exists but only for the (very, like, VERY) rich people who can afford the taxes, the several months of delay after filling up forms (in which they can reply « no, bugger off lol »). We saw that in USSR’s administrative imbroglio and ironically now in your favorite liberal and capitalist regime. If I had to pay outrageous taxes and ask permission to exercise my rights on top of being successful in life everytime, then how many people can enjoy freedom in the end? Not the majority, it becomes more and more a niche or elite thing, which is the definition of a privilege, not a democratic thing.
@phifflon
@phifflon Жыл бұрын
The Girardoni air rifle was in service with the Austrian army from 1780 to around 1815. Effective range of 125 Yards with 30 Rounds Air capasity, Either .46 or a .51 with around 500 fps
@eriklarson9137
@eriklarson9137 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I have Google too.
@eriklarson9137
@eriklarson9137 Жыл бұрын
This could have been your big chance if only you had air rifle content on your channel!!
@HELLEKSONART
@HELLEKSONART Жыл бұрын
@@eriklarson9137 to be beholden to KZfaq censors?
@KingPhilipsRideshare
@KingPhilipsRideshare Жыл бұрын
Napoleon hated these things
@phifflon
@phifflon Жыл бұрын
@@KingPhilipsRideshare Yup and I remeber Seeing Ians episode on this rifle
@user-ks5nv6nw6k
@user-ks5nv6nw6k 3 ай бұрын
the best cinematography and mini bike action I've ever witnessed! ...now I want one of these air rifles! damn you!
@dmo848
@dmo848 2 ай бұрын
U can get away with the 300$ PCP jus look around.
@CAUSEDEATH
@CAUSEDEATH Жыл бұрын
Love the intro. And this was a no brainer for me, I own and use those certain air rifles.
@johnsanko4136
@johnsanko4136 Жыл бұрын
There are even some larger caliber air guns that are meant to hunt larger game. Winchester has a .45 airgun that can take down deer. BB guns aren't just little trainers for kids to shoot cans with, they can get very serious.
@danielrouw2593
@danielrouw2593 Жыл бұрын
There are models that can be used with bolts as well, they are classified as bows in some regions. They have been used effectively on dangerous game such as cape buffalo.
@AmazonWebService98
@AmazonWebService98 Жыл бұрын
BB gun is not a air rifle
@nate7629
@nate7629 Жыл бұрын
Can I get a link to that airgun
@xxxHighSpeedxxx
@xxxHighSpeedxxx Жыл бұрын
Even a 50 cal. Just search 50 cal airgun on yt.
@_Delta_P_
@_Delta_P_ Жыл бұрын
@@xxxHighSpeedxxx that thing is nuts. packs a hit.
@Ezerhoden950
@Ezerhoden950 Жыл бұрын
Years ago i was on the airgun craze.. while fun they are crazy expensive, the price points for them are typically higher than quality rimfires and maintaining them is very time consuming. 2 of the 3 i still currently have leak. constantly trying to find leaks and lubricate o-rings become an annoyance especially with how intricate they can be.. useful, quiet, and cheaper on a per shot basis. but I’ve stop investing in air rifles because rimfire is just more user friendly
@yep-sb4uf
@yep-sb4uf Жыл бұрын
I got a rock island bolt .22 because it was threaded. 130 bucks. Put a $50 scope on it, and a $500 griffen (+$200 stamp) suppressor. Cci segmented sub sonic bullets. Super quiet, no hassle. I can't imagine paying more for an air gun. No matter how good it is.
@Ezerhoden950
@Ezerhoden950 Жыл бұрын
@@yep-sb4uf my FX Bobcat cost me around $2300. not including scope and pump for refilling. it’s an incredible rifle, stacks .22 pellets in the same hole at 50 yards. but it’s been to FX for leak repairs once and a month after it started to leak again. It’s still shoots great but won’t hold air for more than 24 hours. i pump it up before i go out for squirrel. that’s about all the use it gets now. i’d like to add that was almost 10 years ago when i bought it. and i can tell you i haven’t shot enough pellets to recoup that cost, and i’ve shot ALOT.
@CtrlAltRetreat
@CtrlAltRetreat Жыл бұрын
@@Ezerhoden950 Have you tried a condor SS for the same type of shooting? You'll need to remote it but you'll get about double the fpe at the cost of having to single load. I've been running Airforce airguns for a while now and they've been much more reliable from my experience. No leaks or issues even with the big bores. That said, they're much simpler designs than the fx rigs but I've been getting solid results from them and the price of the guns are more reasonable as well. Single load tray is a bit of a pity but I simply haven't had the issues other airgunners running magazines have had... Again, it's a tube, not much to go wrong. I used to think that them not putting a regulator directly on their guns was terrible but after seeing the problems others have had with inline regulator leakage, having my regulator on my remote line might actually have been the right call. Also having the entire tank be at regulated pressure rather than just trying to force it via valve has given me obvious consistency at full air flow which is a plus. Something worth looking at. All SS and LSS model Airforce airguns can take donnyFL moderators as a simple screw on to dramatically decrease sound levels
@Ezerhoden950
@Ezerhoden950 Жыл бұрын
@@CtrlAltRetreat i’ve considered one years ago, but ended up getting the Benjamin Bulldog at a way discounted price. i don’t want to say it. but my bulldog is the only one that doesn’t leak. haha. at this point in time i don’t have a reason to even consider a new air rifle. having a .22,.25,.35 model i can make do with them.
@CtrlAltRetreat
@CtrlAltRetreat Жыл бұрын
@@Ezerhoden950 Nice, while they won't match up to the accuracy of your fxs, they're designed for real use by regular folk and from what I've seen generally hold up to it with the exception of that bolt handle. A good bulldog is an excellent platform. They're engineered with a certain amount of leeway in mind which makes them much more robust than you'd think and you get .357 in a magazine for both solid energy and repeat capability. Have you looked into pitbull airguns work? I've been highly impressed with their work from the guys that have had their mega moderators and extended plus pressure regulated tanks. Good stuff
@icyinferno6891
@icyinferno6891 6 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Air rifles have been around since the 1760s. Lewis and Clark had a few on their exploration of the US it was called the Giradoni rifle I think. Yeah the buttstock held 600PSI of Air. No that's not a typo and it was hand pumped. It could shoot 48 times with a full Air tank and had a 22 round Magazine. It could also punch a hole through a 1 inch pine board at 100 yards. Not bad when everyone else had a musket. Also they were issued to some military back in the day.
@Skim_beeble7125
@Skim_beeble7125 5 ай бұрын
Fun fact a comment above says the first air rifle was invented in 1580 so which one was it maaaaan
@DannyBoYfutube
@DannyBoYfutube 4 ай бұрын
They both are?
@DannyBoYfutube
@DannyBoYfutube 4 ай бұрын
He may have not known when it was invented but it was before his date so therefore both are correct😅
@bryanyankulov3162
@bryanyankulov3162 Жыл бұрын
Very Well Done ~
@MontanaAirGunner
@MontanaAirGunner Жыл бұрын
Holy moly! I thought that we wouldn't see high powered airguns on this channel but I am positively surprised! Owning one and doing competitions on a small scale has definately been super fun and I can recommend it to everyone. It is also a great tool for learning fundamentals on long range shooting and shooting in general. I have had several ranch owners asking me to come and take care of their gopher problems and I have been happy to help them out. They have been super happy with the results and were amazed how quiet the thing is. It is also a great advantage on hunting because you can get follow up shot without them running back to their holes. Coyotes are also a thing you can hunt with them and there's nothing better than sending out 68grains of lead at 1000fps towards their way.
@whatsmolly5741
@whatsmolly5741 Жыл бұрын
With the little tiny downside of being a ridiculously expensive hobby. Which is also why you literally never hear about air guns being used in shootings. A medium range fx airgun costs about the same as a high end ar. Oh and to get that consistent speed you absolutely need a regulator and most likely other mods to make it all work.
@whatsmolly5741
@whatsmolly5741 Жыл бұрын
And if you think fire arm ammo is expensive just check out the .357 and .30 pellets/slugs.
@MontanaAirGunner
@MontanaAirGunner Жыл бұрын
@@whatsmolly5741 Well depends on what you buy and what your goals are. I started out first with a simple 300$ PCP that was a .22. Did my first gophers with that after I modified it a little. Plenty of power in that one too for small game as a stock version if you wish not to modify it. I filled out my tank in the scuba diving place for 10$ a pop and you could shoot little over a thousand rounds with the fills provided from the tank. But yeah all depends on what your looking for.
@whatsmolly5741
@whatsmolly5741 Жыл бұрын
@Montana_AirGunner the effect goes up drastically as you go up in caliber, my 357 Benjamin bulldog drops like 12 inches accross 10 shots at 30 yards without a regulator and to get the regulator you need a tank that handles 5000 psi
@whatsmolly5741
@whatsmolly5741 Жыл бұрын
@@MontanaAirGunner and the best ammo for it is like 1.5 $ per slug
@joezucchiatti7110
@joezucchiatti7110 Жыл бұрын
I almost expected Ted's Holdover to be presenting. That would be the crossover of the year for sure. Also: props to the sound engineer for dealing with the extreme wind. A+ seriously.
@chrisk8293
@chrisk8293 Жыл бұрын
He has a video of the new FX Panthera concept
@michaelburke5750
@michaelburke5750 11 ай бұрын
Wonderful stuff.
@scottwilliams8334
@scottwilliams8334 9 ай бұрын
I started saving up my money at about 10. My first, the one I wanted, was a Benjamin Franklin, pump. The round forend with grooves. In 22 cal. Next was a Crossman, one we probably all had. Then I saved up and got a Sheridan tada! At the time the top of the line as far as I knew. 61,62,somewhere along there. I've had them every since and I'm 70 years old. I've got a Benjamin Franklin pump handgun and a Benjamin Franklin one pump long gun with a scope. Man,I'd love to get one of these new ones. This is as close as I can get right now. Will be watching for ideas.
@benjaminbesselink3178
@benjaminbesselink3178 Жыл бұрын
Got a 45. cal air rifle, the Texan LSS. You can hunt Boars with here in Europe, pretty effective and is extremely accurate up to 300 meters. More powerful than a 45. ACP
@CtrlAltRetreat
@CtrlAltRetreat Жыл бұрын
I hear that big bore pcps are regulated in most European countries. What are the laws like around where you're at?
@EC-dz4bq
@EC-dz4bq Жыл бұрын
How are you liking the LSS? I have the SS and I could not imagine the extra 10? inches in length. I use a back strap with mine and it just barley is short enough to not hit the ground. You are also using the carbon fiber tank right?
@benjaminbesselink3178
@benjaminbesselink3178 Жыл бұрын
@@CtrlAltRetreat ... i don't really know, but honestly don't care about them either
@benjaminbesselink3178
@benjaminbesselink3178 Жыл бұрын
@@EC-dz4bq Yeah mine is quite massive, I also added a big ass silencer to the gun. At times having trouble moving around the house with it lol... I usually just hold it in my hands or tie it to my backpack. And yeah I'm using the carbon fiber tank
@CtrlAltRetreat
@CtrlAltRetreat Жыл бұрын
@@benjaminbesselink3178 Get a sling and a remote tank mate. Which additional moderator did you go with? I highly recommend the donnyFL emperor. Good luck out there and hopefully you guys get your own 2a too
@phatkid6811
@phatkid6811 Жыл бұрын
If you had a way to fill gas canister at home manually; really a great bug out gun for survival hunting. You could have thousands of inexpensive bullets with infinite recharging.
@CausticTitan
@CausticTitan Жыл бұрын
A bike pump can get some gnarly pressure
@altergreenhorn
@altergreenhorn Жыл бұрын
There are manual pumps for those rifles
@SlimPickins_07
@SlimPickins_07 Жыл бұрын
I use to be a compressor service tech and worked on some crazy high pressure systems. I wonder if those guys will let me just come over and fill up some tanks? 😂
@pvegod1484
@pvegod1484 Жыл бұрын
air guns are finicky and way too many seals for a survival rig. best off with a 22 and loads of ammo
@hansgruber9685
@hansgruber9685 Жыл бұрын
You can accomplish essentially the same thing with a .22lr. The ammo is a little heavier but the rifle can be much smaller and lighter. As well as much less complicated.
@WilliamHearnTOEFL_Tutor
@WilliamHearnTOEFL_Tutor Жыл бұрын
AMAZING shooting!! Seriously fun video. I'm wondering what Mike will be like when he's in his 70's.
@bertbccfu9564
@bertbccfu9564 10 ай бұрын
Been into air rifles since i was a kid now into the pcp air rifles , ive got 6 of them now my go to is usually my AEA hp varmint .25 , super accurate 1" groups at 100yards, perfect for woodchucks, opossums, raccoons, with .25 30 grain hollow point slugs its a beast
@bromazepam781
@bromazepam781 Жыл бұрын
Some time ago, Polenar Tactical examined Texan AirArms .50 rifles and they punched a hole trough a frying pan with it. Granted, it was aluminium frying pan, but still. Both FX and Texan AA are excellent and pricey air rifles.
@Drew70721
@Drew70721 Жыл бұрын
Texan and condor are Airforce brand
@luislongoria6621
@luislongoria6621 Жыл бұрын
I like to see an air gun push out some Underwood Extreme Penetration copper solids just for fun
@thejason755
@thejason755 Жыл бұрын
Like to the tune of what pricey?
@bromazepam781
@bromazepam781 Жыл бұрын
@@thejason755 1500 to 2000 USD pricey. For an American, not much, but for a wage slave in Serbia it is a LOT. I have gone back to that video which Polenar did and I have to apologize - it was indeed an AirArms Texan rifle, but in .45 caliber. They did some fun tests and found out that the .45 slug from air rifle has energy at the muzzle comparable to a 9mm parabellum round out of a pistol, but it doesn't have its penetration due to much lower speed of the round.
@thejason755
@thejason755 Жыл бұрын
@@bromazepam781 thats a pricey tune
@istimsakabdulbasir2438
@istimsakabdulbasir2438 Жыл бұрын
That is one beautiful air rifle. I was surprised how deep the ball penetrated the gelatin. So quiet, it didn't seem capable of much. A good thing about airgun, they make you study precision fundamentals.
@seijiroukikuoka5975
@seijiroukikuoka5975 Жыл бұрын
You could have just said the airgun went balls deep into the gelatin.
@istimsakabdulbasir2438
@istimsakabdulbasir2438 Жыл бұрын
@@seijiroukikuoka5975 You right. What was I thinking. That airgun shot it's "SHOT" into that gelatin 🤭
@ryanpotter4168
@ryanpotter4168 7 күн бұрын
Just picked up a jts airacuda to plink at home in the city. Working on under 1 inch groups un supported at 30 yards practicing to go on an iguana hunt tour in fl
@rogerhancock8732
@rogerhancock8732 Жыл бұрын
You can also get full auto air guns delivered to your door as well. also not stated is Air guns are available up to 50cal, some are made to shoot arrows as well. My first PCP was a 300 buck origin in .22cal and remains one of my favorites, have only had the opportunity to shoot it out to 200 yards. There are local ranges here to shoot a little farther, but they are quite costly and right now I cannot afford the extra expense associated with these larger club ranges.
@Blackstar-yd3yf
@Blackstar-yd3yf Ай бұрын
Question is which is the most lethal option there is out there with airguns 🤔
@rogerhancock8732
@rogerhancock8732 Ай бұрын
@@Blackstar-yd3yf Any caliber is lethal with proper shot placement. Air gun calibers I own are.177, .22, .25, .30. As of this time I have not done any hunting with the .30 or the .177.
@Blackstar-yd3yf
@Blackstar-yd3yf Ай бұрын
@@rogerhancock8732 talking more about the human kind of target
@varmintermagazine
@varmintermagazine Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you guys were able to put this together and show what modern airguns are capable of. I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but most States allow some type of hunting for non-game, all the way up to big game. Any animal/bird that you can hunt with a firearm in the State of Idaho, you can hunt with an airgun. In Idaho there are caliber requirements for medium and big game, as well as lead-free and caliber requirements for waterfowl, but they are easy to follow and gives you one more way to hunt in this great State!
@twilightzone39
@twilightzone39 Жыл бұрын
Waterfowl is wild because there’s air shotguns nowadays. I would’ve never imagined duck hunting with an air gun
@varmintermagazine
@varmintermagazine Жыл бұрын
@@twilightzone39 - We can use single projectiles shot out of airguns as well. They must be .20 caliber or smaller and the projectile must be lead-free. This falls within the guidelines of the USFW laws.
@WesAKAthemilkman
@WesAKAthemilkman Жыл бұрын
I love Idaho, always will. Born and raised.
@ricksmith7232
@ricksmith7232 Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand the reasoning to wanting to hunt with an air gun over a regular gun, but it’s pretty cool none the less
@varmintermagazine
@varmintermagazine Жыл бұрын
@@ricksmith7232 - Idaho does not allow you to hunt upland game birds with a firearm (other than Forest Grouse). They also open up a lot of new opportunities for access on private land, where firearms, including rimfires and shotguns, would not be a viable solution. For example, I have permission to shoot Pigeons and Starlings inside barns on a large Dairy here in SW Idaho. Shotguns, or other firearms are strictly prohibited. Of course, there is also the fun/challenge factor as well. I believe anything that expands our hunting opportunities is a good thing. So this is just one more option available to all of us.
@FJB_FNFA
@FJB_FNFA Жыл бұрын
Long live 22 man! I felt his essence flowing through this whole video. It was just beautiful.
@MrCtr210
@MrCtr210 Жыл бұрын
That looks like fun!
@nonegone7170
@nonegone7170 10 ай бұрын
It's pretty funny, here in the Netherlands you need more paperwork than the Apollo program to get a 9mm. But a .50 cal air rifle is completely free to have above age 18, even though it packs quite a few joules more
@JetJL
@JetJL Жыл бұрын
I go target shooting with my dad with these things. We have air rifles from .22 to .457. We can shoot a lot more rounds on the range than everyone else, since we're not worried about the cost of ammo.
@hansgruber9685
@hansgruber9685 Жыл бұрын
The guy said it was $16 for 100 right? That’s MORE expensive.
@JetJL
@JetJL Жыл бұрын
@@hansgruber9685 for the 30 cals, that's as much for a tin of 150 pellets. For .457 its $20 for 50 200 grain slugs. You could reform lead into these pellets though, as thats what most airgun ammo is. FX pellets carry a price premium. So I think they were going for that number.
@Ben-fk9ey
@Ben-fk9ey Жыл бұрын
@@hansgruber9685 You can get 500 for $15 or less of .177 or .22.
@matthewrezuke8130
@matthewrezuke8130 Жыл бұрын
Lol a decent compressor cost over 1k alone plus the external tank you have to lug around… isn’t worth it
@aaronpreston47
@aaronpreston47 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewrezuke8130 you fill your extra tank at a SCUBA shop for cheap and it can refill the main tank many times over.
@0Logan05
@0Logan05 Ай бұрын
Good to see I’m not the only one riding those tiny Motor bikes..🤙🏻
@jonnieZG
@jonnieZG Жыл бұрын
Even the commercials segments that you guys do are hilariously entertaining and effective, not even to mention the payload of your videos! Unlike with other content creators, never skipped a single of your commercials! Snorin' Desert Institute 4evah!!!
@given0fox968
@given0fox968 Жыл бұрын
I got into these back in 2011, and have multiple FX and Daystate airguns. It’s great to see the growth in the PCP airgun world 👍👊🇺🇸🤘
@SendItSilly
@SendItSilly Жыл бұрын
For those just looking into the FX Impact line of air rifles, I would strongly suggest looking at a model that offers their barrel harmonic controller. You could have dialed in an even tighter group as you shot it. Sub MOA groups at 100 are the norm with an Impact, add the harmonic barrel tuner and it's a nail driver at 100.
@ricksmith7232
@ricksmith7232 Жыл бұрын
For all calibers of ammo offered? Or just the .22 equivalent?
@edricheson
@edricheson Жыл бұрын
@@ricksmith7232 for all
@kl90210
@kl90210 Жыл бұрын
the harmonic balancer is old tech. get a carbon fiber barrel tensioner kit, dial in your power properly, it drives tacks. the new carbon fiber tensioner kit does a much better job taming the pulse wave than the clunky harmonic balancer piece.
@marcoslaureano5562
@marcoslaureano5562 11 ай бұрын
I shoot quarter sized groups at 100 yards with my Hatsan.
@jacobusdowbiss
@jacobusdowbiss 9 ай бұрын
@@marcoslaureano5562 which kind of Hatsan?
@hackmasterHQ
@hackmasterHQ 10 ай бұрын
Great shooting.
@freedomsteel
@freedomsteel Жыл бұрын
Air guns taught me how to arc it at a young age. A valuable piece of the puzzle to master and a great way to teach your kids the basics. Thanks for the quality content once again Mike.
@MrAvant123
@MrAvant123 Жыл бұрын
Airguns in the UK are restricted to 12ft/lbs for .22 which is roughly a muzzle velocity of about 570fps. if you hold the rife in a certain way and in the right light (assuming you have reasonable eyesight) you can see the pellet arc.
@preachers4135
@preachers4135 Жыл бұрын
@@MrAvant123 Wow, are slingshots outlawed there as well?
@Nurse_Xochitl
@Nurse_Xochitl Жыл бұрын
@@MrAvant123 fUK
@N1c0T1n3__
@N1c0T1n3__ Жыл бұрын
RIP to the air gun rep guy who got shot in a hotel because of a retarded cop who still got his pension, nevermind getting jailed for life or executed like he executed the guy.
@davidmolyneux9014
@davidmolyneux9014 10 ай бұрын
Not banned in the UK (yet) but in Germany any slingshot with a wrist brace is banned.
@joshuagibson2520
@joshuagibson2520 Жыл бұрын
I've been into PCP for a few years. Love it. ZERO regrets. I'd never use one for defensive purposes or even a bug out hunting gun. Far too finicky. If I'm going with air for survival it's a break barrel.
@yolobathsalts
@yolobathsalts Жыл бұрын
I too love PCP. Helluva drug.
@johnblellock6283
@johnblellock6283 Жыл бұрын
Nice one I’m a pcp man I use a compressor but keep a pump in case power wer to become an issue
@SonOfNone
@SonOfNone Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I have a hatsan mod130s break-barrel, but I think I'd prefer a PCP with a handpump [for air survival]. Break barrels have crazy heavy break-weight [mine is about 45 lbs] and low velocity [590fps I think, using ~47gr.]
@athmaid
@athmaid Жыл бұрын
​@@SonOfNone you'd be pumping til your arm falls off lol
@aceofaugusta1952
@aceofaugusta1952 Жыл бұрын
I like pcp too but I keep waking up face down in a tire
@pontusd5137
@pontusd5137 Жыл бұрын
The combination between science, awesome cinematic, complete uncoordinated fuckery and memes is why this is THE best channel on youtube. Often forgotten but certainly not by me, Dr Garand
@GMan56M
@GMan56M Жыл бұрын
I saw your face when he said "shuttlecock," Mike. Good job keeping it together lol
@chickennugget4819
@chickennugget4819 Жыл бұрын
I haven’t picked up my .22lr since buying an fx. I do think the .22 lr drops less, bucks the wind better and holds more energy behind it. The airgun works wonders on ground squirrels. There are other models that cater more towards a hunting platform. More shots per fill, larger magazine ect.
@MontanaAirGunner
@MontanaAirGunner Жыл бұрын
The possibilities of tuning and modifying them is so much better than on traditional ones. I mean just being able to tune the velocities at a mach site within 10 minutes is a game changer! So much fun!
@three33three33
@three33three33 Жыл бұрын
I literally just watched Dirty Civilian's "Dirt Bike for Prepared Citizens" before this video, and I feel astonished that I understood the reference at 9:24 lmao
@hotchihuahua1546
@hotchihuahua1546 7 ай бұрын
Every PCP manufacturer has a particular pellet or slug that shoots the best out a certain barrel . The 22 happens to be the caliber with the most variety in shape and diameter for the PCP . With equal speed to a 22 rim fire and same grain . Giving both the best ammo each can shoot should come down to the person behind the gun .
@scandimanairsoft
@scandimanairsoft Жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@johnraygun9868
@johnraygun9868 Жыл бұрын
As a proud owner of a few of these PCP rifles and someone who served 21 years active duty army and fired plenty of weapons, these things are a blast! I have some spendy ones but honestly my favorite to just dick around with is my cheaper Benjamin Bulldog .357 cal, it’s a heavy chunk of lead that will go through 3 pressure treated 2x4s at a quarter the price per round lol
@fullmoonprepping4024
@fullmoonprepping4024 Жыл бұрын
I had a Bulldog and the thing was a powerhouse. You could hunt anything at range.
@johnraygun9868
@johnraygun9868 Жыл бұрын
@@fullmoonprepping4024 100%, I think bang for the buck it’s still one of the best out there though prices are shooting up quick lol. You ever have any issues with yours? Mines been flawless, my more expensive have issues here and there, nothing serious but that damn bulldog is like clockwork. I bought it the year I retired from the army Jan 2019, got the Megamoderator, extra mags and the depinger, haven’t had one damn issue ❤️
@beantea5592
@beantea5592 Жыл бұрын
I want that one first I think
@johnraygun9868
@johnraygun9868 Жыл бұрын
@@beantea5592 can’t go wrong with it in my opinion, the couple guys I know that also own them seem to feel the same way, a good workhorse
@airguns_rc
@airguns_rc Жыл бұрын
Glad that you took a look at the FX Airgun Gerand. I have three FX Impacts in .22 Caliber, .30 Caliber and .357 Caliber. My biggest airgun is the Airforce Texan .457 Caliber, and I shoot a 350 grain slug in competition at the Rocky Mountain Airgun Challenge ( RMAC ) in Utah. I shoot all of the other FX Impacts in 100 yard benchrest competitions, 50 yard benchrest competitions, PRS Competitions, speed challenge, and I have other airguns that I shoot in Hunter Field Target Competitions. You shot the FX Panthera awesome for the first time shooting it. 300 yards, first time shooting is impressive. I have shot all of my FX Impact .22 caliber with ZAN Slugs and the .357 Caliber with NSA Slugs, both out to 350 yards on steel. All three of my slug shooters can hit the 3" circle at 300 yards at the range in Indiana that I shoot long distances in. The airgun that Louis & Clark had in their journey was the Girardoni Airgun that Napolean wanted banned in war. It was a .46 caliber round ball. The air reservoir was filled to 800 PSI and was good for about 80 full power shots. The airgun was a 20-round repeater in a tubular feed magazine. If you can find one, and want to add it to any collection, it would be more than worth picking up. Thanks for the awesome video.
@Reaperherpderp
@Reaperherpderp 10 ай бұрын
And how much were these, cuz they seem to be expensive af
@airguns_rc
@airguns_rc 10 ай бұрын
@@Reaperherpderp they are expensive. No different than a high end competition firearm would be. There are economic airguns available also that are accurate as well. A high end airgun will cost close to 2k and up. I have several as so do many of my fellow Airgunners, but we all compete and have a blast every weekend, and I also compete at the international competitions as well, and so do some of them as well. You can compete with these FX Impacts and FX Panthera Airguns right alongside the Vodoo’s, CZ’s, Christian Arms, in PRS, NRL22, matches and NL50 matches. It all depends on what you want to get involved in. There are members at my local gun club that shoot shotguns that cost tens of thousand dollars.
@Reaperherpderp
@Reaperherpderp 10 ай бұрын
@@airguns_rc I mean i was interested but i can build decked out AR's for 2k. These seem very cool and would be fun to have and much more convenient for shooting recreationally but i dont think i can personally justify spending this much for a similar set up like in the video
@airguns_rc
@airguns_rc 10 ай бұрын
@@Reaperherpderp completely understand. If you want an airgun to hang with the competition 22 LR’s of the world for example. You will end up spending that much.
@scottsammons7747
@scottsammons7747 9 ай бұрын
Keep in mind the cost of high pressure air pumps and tanks for these captive air rifles. Quality 3000 psi pumps are rather dear, the need for good dry air has led many to choose nitrogen bottles instead. Still not inexpensive as an overall system. I shoot .45, .30, .25, .22, and .177 air rifles. It's a lot of fun, but not a cheap hobby. I first fell in love with the quality of manufacturing by Dennis Quackenbush in Missouri back in the 1980's long before the new guys took up big bore.
@seanbrossard8178
@seanbrossard8178 3 ай бұрын
I'll be 60 this year and own quite a few bb,pellet, pcp rifles. In .177,.22, .25cal. I perf to shoot long rifles lefty. So that limits the choices, and I am a form fit and function for the price kind of guy. I have 6 in 25cal witch for me was the sweet spot. I have only found a few Bullpups that can be flipped or ordered lefty. The 25cal is very quit as compared to the 30cal. More stable(.177,.22cal) in high crosswinds carrys excellent down range punch and price per round. And just bought a semiautomatic with 10 round rotate mag. Barely put 60rnds through it haven't fully season the barrel yet (300-500rnds) and I am placing sub dimes at 25yrds. For ratting around my house I have a 25cal lever action with night vision and 50x scope with inferred laser and a home made moderator with padded gun cover under 50 decibels of sound at 3ft out. And it is so effect for 30rds before refill. When stripped down to day hunting with red dot or open sites it is 6lbs. and 12 pounds for night with 4hrs of battery life on board. We have nutria rodents(22lbs) here and can't wait to hunt them with the 25cal perfectly suited for the job. I have two Jack Russell and think a small pit bull(30to40lbs) or larger terrier would be better. Hopefully be able to hunt iguanas in Florida soon.
@user-qp7et6cc7d
@user-qp7et6cc7d 10 ай бұрын
This is really good
@gtwolfe100
@gtwolfe100 Жыл бұрын
Ammunition is not cheap but that FX Panthera will set you back about $1,950 without that additional suppressor which adds about another $200; plus shipping from most dealers of course. The Panthera is a purpose built rifle and the purpose is to shot slugs rather than pellets. Unless things have changed, the big events (100 yard bench rest) at the AOA Extreme Benchrest, Rocky Mountain Airgun Challenge, and Pyramid Air Cup all require the competitors to use pellets rather than slugs, which would mean also buying a pellet barrel for the Panthera unless they have figured out how to make a barrel that shoots both slugs and pellets equally accurate (don't think so; entirely different ballistics). All that said the FX are just about the most popular rifles for the serious airgun competitors. But there are tons of considerations when deciding what air rifle to buy. I decided to go renegade and but an AirMaks Katran X HP Long for benchrest since it is almost half the price of the FX rifles; but unless I tune the power way down I am limited to just a few very heavy .22 pellets to keep the velocity under 1000fps. It is also an amazing and stunningly powerful rifle, but pretty much a single purpose gun. If I had the money and the time to mess about with the tuning I would probably have gone with FX. The growing fear now is that given the kind of power and accuracy that is being achieved with modern air rifles, eventually government agencies are going to realize that they are just as lethal as firearms and start to add restrictions. But for the moment airgunners can still enjoy the sport of shooting without all the restrictions on powder guns.
@nathanmcintyre1029
@nathanmcintyre1029 3 ай бұрын
Dont forget that unless you have a club, you'd be spending around 2000 CAD on a compressor. Too lazy to convert to freedom monies
@dutchsailor6620
@dutchsailor6620 2 ай бұрын
@@nathanmcintyre1029Ask if the local fire brigade can help you out, they usually have a compressor for their breathing apparatus.
@joseppastor7309
@joseppastor7309 2 ай бұрын
​@@nathanmcintyre1029I got a Vevor one for 300 euros and it's very good for PCP
@robertkoonce8365
@robertkoonce8365 Жыл бұрын
I got into the airgunning world a few years ago for whitetail hunting and hogs. I can attest to the upfront costs. The rifle was almost 1700 bucks(AirForce Texan LSS 45) the 96 cu ft air tank another 800 bucks, and I bought 2 different compressors a 12v portable that barely fills the tank on the gun, 300 bucks, and broke down and bought an Air Venturi 4,500 psi compressor to fill the big scuba tank. Another 1500 bucks. Ammo was a bit of a quest to find. Sure, Seneca makes cast slugs for it, extreme spreads of 18 " at 50 yards. But then I happened across Nielsen precision. Their slugs are swedged rather than cast, and man, what a difference. Now, I can stack shots out to 200 yards with ease. For a deer gun, though, running Nielsen 350 grain slugs, at 940fps, it's a sledgehammer out to 150 yards. I just filled up the big scuba tank and go sit out on the porch and have a ball. I did, however, end up spending a small fortune before I found which slugs my rifle likes to eat. With grain weights from 177 grains all the way up to 410 grains, my particular set up prefers the 220 to 240 grain wad cutters. Running 980fps, with 480 to 500 fpe. I can say that at 50 yards, the lung damage to the deer I shot was comparable to the damage done to the deer my sister shot the next day with a 204 Ruger at 140 yards. When bith were opened up, both sets if lungs basically poured out of chest cavities . But that was still shooting a basically new rifle with roughly 3 hours behind the trigger. And with the Seneca slugs . Needless to say, It was expensive to get into, but I'm hooked.
@Whoadayson
@Whoadayson Жыл бұрын
Great wad of info in this post! Answered just about every question I had before perusing the comments. Thanks man
@guardsmanom134
@guardsmanom134 Жыл бұрын
So, you went right passed every single cheap option there was, to feel like you were shooting a firearm. You do realize that there are cheaper options, right? For what you spent on the Airforce gun alone, I went hunting for hogs in California's Santa Ana River basin, with a .50 airgun and Neilsen ammo, with a H. Hill of Britain hppcp airpump. Took a 500lbs sow pig from a tree at 930pm in almost total darkness, with iron sights. You are the only person who determines whether or not it's going to be expensive. I paid $736 for the gun(Sam Yang Dragon's Claw) and $316 for the pump. And boxes of the 250 grain hp .495 slugs from Nielsen are $20 for 110 slugs.
@robertkoonce8365
@robertkoonce8365 Жыл бұрын
@guardsmanom134 You're right, I did go right past every cheap option. If I wanted to shoot a firearm , I probably would have taken my hog rifle. It's a custom built 458 socom tho, and a bit much for white tails. Now, the last hog I got in south Texas with it rolled across the scales at a touch over 500 lbs. But I didn't write the post to get into a pissing contest. The whole point though, is I couldn't afford the Impact, and I'm too old to be pumping a bicycle pump for 45 minutes everytime I feel like shot for 5. But to each his own. I will give you this though, the Nielsen precision slugs are actually a lot less expensive than the cast Seneca slugs and I did get just about every weight slug available to see what shot the best out my gun. Then again, that's just me too. But I'm happy for ya. I certainly wouldn't knock ya for your choice of tools.
@robertkoonce8365
@robertkoonce8365 Жыл бұрын
@@Whoadayson glad to help.
@guardsmanom134
@guardsmanom134 Жыл бұрын
@Robert Koonce ok... I'm not knocking your choices, I'm just saying that there's a cheap way of doing it. You chose to make it expensive for comfort, and through choice of brand. I've been thinking about a pony bottle or something like that myself, for my 25. But again, I realize that price is not a definite way of measuring an airgun. I could never afford an FX Impact or an Edgun Leshiy 2. But, I have a need for something that will do the same tasks, as effectively. So, I bought a couple of Hatsan airguns for a quarter of what I would have paid for the big name brands. And I bought my Big Bore for half of what I'd have paid for other brands/guns. What's more, say I had firearms and a big budget. I could buy a DD AR copy for around 14k. Does that mean that the PlastiSCAR doesn't exist? No, it just means I chose to buy an expensive rifle. My point is, expense is entirely governed by your choices, and is not reflective of the hobby itself.
@707Spain
@707Spain Жыл бұрын
Gald to see you guys come out victorious in the BBWs.
@christosmavrommatis912
@christosmavrommatis912 10 ай бұрын
Very good shooting, I would love seeing you running around and shooting (your usual staff) with semi and fully auto airguns... I have myself a LCS sk19, 19 shoot auto piece and waiting for my new huben GK1 pistol, both pieces will be real dope shooting your style, I promise...
@justinmakesrepairs4535
@justinmakesrepairs4535 Жыл бұрын
I have been shooting for a long time and what I have found is using airguns have greatly improved my ability to shoot better for many reasons. I think being able to practice without recoil and loud sounds and the fact I can practice in my basement and get a lot of trigger time are key to becoming a better shot.
@williwonti
@williwonti Жыл бұрын
Not to mention you can practice bullet drop compensation in your backyard
@miket2120
@miket2120 Жыл бұрын
In the old Beeman's catalog, one of the benefits of using an airgun in firearms training was maintaining a steady hold throughout the shooting cycle. The normal action just after letting a round fly is to relax a bit. It's almost instinctive, but it can happen even before the round leaves the barrel. The airgun fires at a lower velocity so the pellet is in barrel longer and any relaxing immediately after the squeeze becomes evident by dropped groups.
@vipe650r
@vipe650r Жыл бұрын
@@lllhunterlll9644 Fascinating. That sounds super helpful.
@ElChris816
@ElChris816 Жыл бұрын
Dude, that looks like so much fun! My buddies and I had pellet rifles and pistols when we we kids and had a blast. Watching this really takes me back.
@benbo8490
@benbo8490 Жыл бұрын
Love the Tiny Motorcycle - ding!
@Sertao2013
@Sertao2013 7 ай бұрын
Since I got my spring powered 22 cal air rifle 36 years ago and a pcp 22 cal 5 years ago I haven't shot a single rimfire ,so Its already replaced the rimfire for me a log time ago . You can get started in air gun shooting for as low as 300.00 for a pcp including a pump . You can buy 500 pellets for 7 dollars . Spend another 200.00 on a good scope and start shooting. Start off at 10 yards and work your way out to 200 yards . With the right pellet or slug you can start grouping less than 2 inches at 200 yards , It just takes practice . I don't shoot a lot these days but I average about a tin of 500 shots per month so thats 6,000 shots a year , for a grand total of 84 dollars in ammo . Now compare that to a 22 cal rimfire at 350.00 for 6,000 shots . The more you can shoot the better you get .
@EC-dz4bq
@EC-dz4bq Жыл бұрын
I use my Texan SS .457 for deer and bear hunting. I find them to do very well for penetrating's shots (Sort of like a arrow). They work really well, although they very easily over penetrate (watch what's behind your target as it will also be hit). I feel like this air rifle though (in the video) is still mid-low-range (regarding power). Also that stock tank is really small. I use a 4500psi carbon fiber tank on mine.
@Astraeus..
@Astraeus.. Жыл бұрын
Deer is one thing, but you really do have to be out of your god damn mind to hunt bear with a single-shot air rifle......
@EC-dz4bq
@EC-dz4bq Жыл бұрын
@@Astraeus.. They are not single shot, also its black bear. Mine is bolt action, I get 5-6 good high powered shots. They are super accurate though... so range and good shot placement is key. I also have a tank and a regulator to a larger separate tank that can refill or give me +100 shots if I keep it connected with a regulator.
@jimyeats
@jimyeats Жыл бұрын
@@Astraeus..Dude, the guy is probably sitting in a tree stand with a bait setup beneath him and shooting the bear from 30ft away.
@RhiceyHarierar
@RhiceyHarierar Жыл бұрын
I have same one… its a beast
@Astraeus..
@Astraeus.. Жыл бұрын
@@jimyeats Oh no, not up a tree. What's a bear ever gonna do about that.....
@blahorgaslisk7763
@blahorgaslisk7763 Жыл бұрын
Recently Joerg of the slingshot channel showed a .75 air rifle that seemed to be the obnoxious distant cousin of this. Instead of being quiet with no recoil it was pretty loud and showed Joerg about some even though he's a pretty solid dude. It would be interesting to see just how far these air rifles can be pushed, and in case of the .75 caliber just how much air it uses per shot. When Joerg tested it was tethered by a pneumatic hose to either a huge tank or a compressor, so I'm thinking a more normal tank suitable to be mounted on the rifle won't allow for all that many shots before it's depleted...
@whatsmolly5741
@whatsmolly5741 Жыл бұрын
Probably the aea zues, it reaches 1500 fpe so legitimately hits harder than 5.56 Personally not a fan of the company because of my experience with their semi auto terminator and absolute lack of any customer service when I asked them why my plastic valve pin keeps breaking every few hundred shots and if they plan to do anything about it or if they expect me to purchase a mass stock of these things for 20$ each. Also straight up told me these 40$ mags they sold me they actually knew they didn't work and their only solution was for me to buy their new cnc mags for 60$. I mean a semi auto airgun pushing 150 fpe is absolutely amazing but I really wish they didn't just brush off the massive amount of customer complaints and blame everyone except themselves.
@bigdadde6794
@bigdadde6794 Жыл бұрын
If you’re wanting to start into pcp’s get an Umarex Origin .22. Around $300 and has a small pic rail to mount some smaller optics. Nice starter to get your toes wet. I do varmint hunting and have hit field mice at 50yards at night no problem. Holds pressure during storage and shoots consistent as long as you keep pressure up.
@ATASAIRWFT
@ATASAIRWFT 5 ай бұрын
Nice acuracy👍
@willyjilly9684
@willyjilly9684 Жыл бұрын
The price comparison is significant. PCP air rifles require air pumps, air tanks, etc. It costs 3-4 times the price of a 22 rifle. Some of the air rifles are also regulated in some states so there is no shipping to your door in select states. These also have a much higher probability of failing than a standard rimfire rifle. I've got several hatsan pcp air rifles they are fun but incredibly expensive and tend to fail over time.
@joshuagibson2520
@joshuagibson2520 Жыл бұрын
I have $600 in a compressor and Umarex origin combined. Total. 35k shots through it so far.
@narm_greyrunner
@narm_greyrunner Жыл бұрын
New Jersey is one of those states that treat every pellet and BB gun as a real firearm. Even your basic plinking guns.
@luislongoria6621
@luislongoria6621 Жыл бұрын
Canik might as well be Hatsan, from Turqiye. You just buy a rebuild kit, same as a firearm
@willyjilly9684
@willyjilly9684 Жыл бұрын
@@luislongoria6621 that is good to know 👍
@airgunfun4248
@airgunfun4248 Жыл бұрын
It's four states. Hatsan is JUNK. I have tens of thousands of rounds through FX and AEA no problems. Get a fx gun with 2 7oocc 300 bar bottles and your talking several hundred shots between fills. Bottom line firearms are cheaper but if you want suppressed hunting/eradication without government involvement and don't want to or can't wait at least 6 months for tax stamp. Airguns are the way to go. Otherwise it's for restricted people and wealthy people who want every kind of toy. And as far as restricted people hunting YES airguns destroy bows
@SlaterGator
@SlaterGator Жыл бұрын
Being a dual national Aussie and Brit this is right up my alley 😅
@MrSlopywaffle115
@MrSlopywaffle115 Жыл бұрын
If you live in both nations, you cant even own a butter knife so how can you own an Airgun?
@bit_crusherrr
@bit_crusherrr Жыл бұрын
Sorry to rain on your parade but you'll need a Firearms Certificate for an air rifle that powerful
@MattyEngland
@MattyEngland Жыл бұрын
Yep, in the UK you'd need a licence for one that powerful. That's how bud light this country has become.
@MrSlopywaffle115
@MrSlopywaffle115 Жыл бұрын
​@@bit_crusherrr and thats why *gets stabbed* the EU and Aussie *gets Acid poured on my face* are super safe cause nobody *gets punched and kicked* can have a fully Semi auto rilfe *gets bite by a dog and human*
@SlaterGator
@SlaterGator Жыл бұрын
@@bit_crusherrr Yea I know, this is easier to obtain in England than it is in Aus.
@edwardhurdle5013
@edwardhurdle5013 11 ай бұрын
I'm a Marylander...I have the Air Arms s510 tactical. 25 caliber...one of the best in the world. It's a beast!!! When I turkey hunt, I use my .50 caliber Wingshot that shoots shot shells. Slugs and arrows...that's a super beast!!!
@keithbailey3564
@keithbailey3564 6 ай бұрын
Awesome!!!
@irvingbrown2389
@irvingbrown2389 Жыл бұрын
Really great videos thank you so much for everything you do ! Your dedication and passion comes through in every video! Thank you! Take care!
@SumsarTheThird
@SumsarTheThird Жыл бұрын
06:27 its fun to see that you subconsciously know you didnt clear the weapon after taking the shot, and watching your arms automaticly reach for the bolt. but it isnt there. love to see it.
@b0rd3n
@b0rd3n 11 ай бұрын
Glad to see air rifles on here!
@Prestonesfpv
@Prestonesfpv 9 ай бұрын
PCP guns are so much fun, back in 2010 i shot a 10 shot group at 100m covering only 41mm CC with my 22. AA x-fac 410 and jumbo exact pellets
@FXAirguns
@FXAirguns Жыл бұрын
Wow amazing video, excited to see the Panthera in the hands of legendary KZfaqr Garand Thumb! Great shooting, and shout out to our Director of Sales Kevin!
@michaelmeadows5142
@michaelmeadows5142 Жыл бұрын
Love it! I honestly never thought I'd see Garand actually review an air rifle! All around master of his craft!
@MontanaAirGunner
@MontanaAirGunner Жыл бұрын
Man it was awesome!! Never would have thought it to be true some day. But holy moly whissle pigs are gonna get some lead doses now!!
@AutismusPrime69
@AutismusPrime69 Жыл бұрын
Please no simping
@michaelmeadows5142
@michaelmeadows5142 Жыл бұрын
But it was such a simple simp. 😂 just cuz he's your daddy, doesn't mean the rest of us can't admire the damage he's done. 😂
@MontanaAirGunner
@MontanaAirGunner Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmeadows5142 We definately need more airgun videos. Even more higher power one airungs need to be introduced.😁
@FranciscoBriseno-pi3ro
@FranciscoBriseno-pi3ro 2 ай бұрын
Wow! Looks and sounds great, BUT! could you please answer a few questions such as: What is the make, model of the rifle you used in the video? What was the wind speed during your demonstration? What is the arc apex of the slug, and where did you near and far zero the pellet? What was the weight (mass of the slug) and at what velocity of the slug arriving at the target? What is the active rifling length of the barrel, and not just the length of the barrel? Rifling twist rate? How many lands and grooves, even if impressed from the outside? What is the volume of the cylinder and the plenum? What is the fill pressure you used? What was the regulator pressure set at? Where was the hammer spring compression set at, as well as valve and other adjustments? What was the pressure drop per shot, or pressure drop per 10 shots and I'll divide by 10. What is the slug barrel travel velocity? What is the valve dwell (open) durring firing and distance of pellet travel in the barrel as the valve shuts? What are the specifications of the scope you used? What type bipod was on the rifle because it looks really cool; and outer spacelike. What was the trigger pull weight? What type supressor was on the video and the dB report at 1 meter front and 1 meter right, or left? I calculated roughly that you had an effieciency of 1 grain of air per 1 foot pound of energy (fpe), which is not very efficient, but pretty powerful, but waisting too much air; unless, you are going for a one shot kill at distance. Your extreme spread of 3 fps means that if your valving is perfect then you have some anomolies in your projectiles center of gravity, mass variation, shape and form variations as well as mixing lot. Great video. Numbers do not lie, but you can lie with numbers, and the laws of physics are not just really good ideas. FJB Out!
@zrivs
@zrivs 11 ай бұрын
beautiful backdrop
@HKSTurboBRZ
@HKSTurboBRZ Жыл бұрын
I’ve been following FX air guns for a long time, Matt duber is fantastic and helps develop them. Also has been developing some fantastic slug air guns that are incredibly accurate glad they’re getting more attention
@luislongoria6621
@luislongoria6621 Жыл бұрын
I've seen these new type of .22 pellets that look like a reverse hollow point, almost as if they were armor piercing 5.56 ammo with the penetrator cores removed
@pvegod1484
@pvegod1484 Жыл бұрын
so expensive though man. I was gonna go with a wildcat for hunting here in the uk but its just so much money. a 22 with subsonic rounds is just the most sensible option. plus im not a tinkerer and airguns require a lot of messing around with
@Phoenixrises113
@Phoenixrises113 Жыл бұрын
What is this rifle that they were shooting ? I can't find it on their site.
@PaulHamM3
@PaulHamM3 Жыл бұрын
​@@Phoenixrises113 FX Panthera
@alKEMEMARO
@alKEMEMARO Жыл бұрын
Good for pest removal in populated areas like Florida canals
@thebunker8038
@thebunker8038 3 ай бұрын
Found out a hat San 125 4.5mm/.177cal doing 395ms with steel billets in plastic holders punch through quite a few things. Bought it for my son tested it when sighting it in and when it punched through thick planks and 2-3 mm Norwegian garbage cans it suddenly became mine since I remember how many windows and roof tiles I cracked with old 80’s airguns
@donmac7780
@donmac7780 6 ай бұрын
The accuracy on this is insane!!
@firefighter1c57
@firefighter1c57 Жыл бұрын
Air rifles are where it's at. I used to shoot cans off a tractor 500 yards away with an air rifle with iron sights. 😅
@coryb6722
@coryb6722 Жыл бұрын
youre not getting on the show
@firefighter1c57
@firefighter1c57 Жыл бұрын
@@coryb6722 🤣🤣🤣
@sparker24
@sparker24 Жыл бұрын
This is great content on air rifles. It opens the eyes to a lot of people to how amazing these rifles can be! Keep up the great content!
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