These National Parks No Longer Exist.

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9 ай бұрын

We're used to thinking of National Parks as ever-present. At least since they first showed up in American history. Yellowstone was created way back in 1872, after all. It's over 150 years old. But, I'm here to tell you about the 5 National Parks in American history that no longer exist. Some are still part of the National Park System, but have just changed designations, while others have moved out of the NPS altogether. I think we can learn a lot about what it means to be a National Park by taking a look at these unfortunate 5, but we can also use them to evaluate our own collective relationship with National Parks over time. Enjoy!
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Sources and Resources:
nps.gov/fomc/learn/historyculture/the-great-garrison-flag.htm
nps.gov/fomc/learn/historyculture/the-national-anthem.htm
npshistory.com/publications/fomc/adhi.pdf
www.nationalparkstraveler.org/2011/12/gone-and-mostly-forgotten-26-abolished-national-parks9202
npshistory.com/publications/abli/adhi/index.htm
www.nps.gov/chic/learn/historyculture/stories.htm
www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/chic/guidebook/index.htm
www.nps.gov/chic/learn/historyculture/pnp-1900s.htm
www.nps.gov/chic/learn/historyculture/the-ccc-years-1933-1940.htm
www.nps.gov/chic/learn/historyculture/pnp-post-ccc.htm
www.nps.gov/chic/learn/historyculture/mineral-spring-parks.htm
www.georgewright.org/151wray.pdf
www.nationalparkstraveler.org/2010/04/pruning-parks-north-dakota%E2%80%99s-sullys-hill-national-park-1904-19315743
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NPS (Victoria Stauffenberg)
Library of Congress
Detroit Public Library
Mackinac State Historic Parks
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Mikel Classen Historical Pictures Collection
Oklahoma Historical Society
USFWS/Audrey Bohl
Marc Goebel
Korrie Wenzel/Forum News Network
Theodore Roosevelt Center

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@AverytheCubanAmerican 7 ай бұрын

I visited Fort McHenry back in 2010 and a memory I have was we visited Fort McHenry on the way back to Jersey City from a boy scout jamboree in Virginia that year and when we made to Fort McHenry, it was right in time for a flag ceremony, and I had the opportunity to hold the folded flag and walk to give it to a ranger. Doing that at the location where the national anthem honoring the flag was written...it was an experience. Something neat about Fort McHenry besides the anthem is that it has become national tradition that when a new flag is designed it first flies over Fort McHenry. The first official 49 and 50-star American flags were flown over the fort and are still located on the premises! For former National Monuments, there's Shoshone Cavern in Wyoming. Shoshone Cavern National Monument was proclaimed by Taft in September 1909, and the NPS administered it from 1916 until 1954. Why was it delisted? Because the city of Cody advocated to return it to local administration because they contended that the site could be better run if it were not in federal hands. However, after renaming it to the Spirit Mountain Cave, they were unsuccessful in luring tourists and so the city council allowed for the cavern and the site to be returned to federal ownership in September 1977. After that, the location was incorporated into surrounding federal lands and is currently administered by the Bureau of Land Management.

@NationalParkDiaries 7 ай бұрын

I read about the new flag tradition at Fort McHenry. It's only fitting! Glad you could have that experience there as well, sounds like it was really powerful. Thanks for sharing!

@rahrens99 9 ай бұрын

With how many get it wrong, I'm proud of your Mackinac pronunciation

@NationalParkDiaries 9 ай бұрын

I've gotten so many pronunciations wrong lol, glad to get this one right!

@brandonjones1614 8 ай бұрын

You're right... most get it wrong... 😶

@JayYoung-ro3vu 8 ай бұрын

Same here, from "that state" down south.

@graffic13 8 ай бұрын

Well if you're gonna talk about the best parks in the nation you probably should talk about NW ohio's parks mainly oak openings wildwood maumee Bay Peirson ... and Magee marsh. And if you figure out why OakOpenings is the rarest park. I'll be impressed Your hints are 1 % Savanna

@chaos0852 8 ай бұрын

Confusing to some is the town of Mackinaw is spelled with the “w”, so when they see Mackinac they default to saying nack instead of naw

@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 7 ай бұрын

As one of the comments said in the beginning, the former Father Millet Cross National Monument is definitely odd for how small it was. It honors the wooden cross erected by Pierre Millet at the New French Fort Denonville in 1688. During the preceding winter, disease and starvation overwhelmed the fort's garrison of a hundred men and only twelve of them were saved by a rescue party. Father Millet, a Jesuit missionary, was with this rescue party. On Good Friday, he dedicated a cross to invoke mercy on the plague-stricken men. In September 1925, Coolidge set aside an 18-foot square section of land from the Fort Niagara Military Reservation for a new 18-foot bronze cross and National Monument. In 1945, Fort Niagara was declared surplus by the US Army and plans were laid to convert the site to a state park. In September 1949, Congress abolished the national monument. Another former National Monument is Holy Cross in Colorado. In May 1929, Herbert Hoover designated the area surrounding the mountain as Holy Cross National Monument under US Forest Service administration. The monument was transferred to the National Park Service in 1933. The mountain's remote location made visitor visits difficult, and so in August 1950, Harry Truman signed an act abolishing the national monument and returning the area to White River National Forest. The former national monument is now a part of the Holy Cross Wilderness.

@NationalParkDiaries 7 ай бұрын

The fact that there are 2 abolished NPS units revolving around a "cross" is fascinating. Great stories though, thanks for sharing!

@aazhie 5 ай бұрын

This reminds of Pluto being reclassified as a dwarf planet. It's still out there doing it's thing, just a little different name :)

@Steveofthejungle8 8 ай бұрын

I’ve spent a fair amount of time at Chickasaw NRA. It’s a really unique little place in Southern Oklahoma. The water is clear and blue and great to swim in on a hot day. Plus there’s a bison herd, and there’s lots of Armadillos. If you’re driving on 35 through Oklahoma south of OKC, it’s worth a stop to check it out

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

To be honest, I wasn't that familiar with it before researching this episode. But, now I'm fascinated by the history of this little park! Gotta make a visit one day!

@bonniewills2814 8 ай бұрын

I really appreciate how Platt is still given a distinctive designation within Chichasaw - we were able to tour the park during the National Park Service's 100th anniversary and really enjoyed the demonstrations of how the WPA workers lived while creating the park. Drive up the hill and see the town and park from above - one of our favorite parts of the park!

@InsertHandleHere968 2 ай бұрын

@@NationalParkDiaries if you do, holler at me! My family has been camping and vacationing there for 5 generations. I know a great deal of history and all the special spots Edit to add: the park was hit by a twister a few weeks ago and historic downtown Sulphur was destroyed. They aren’t ready for visitors yet but they could probably benefit from some promotion when they recover a bit

@Chichi-sl2mq 9 ай бұрын

Having a video with AtlasPro would be cool. Like a "How National Parks are Islands or something. Anyaway, this was a very good video. Thank you for sharing

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Big fan of his channel - he does great work! Appreciate the suggestion an thanks for watching!

@Wilderness-Will 8 ай бұрын

This is a great video topic! I'd be interested about other NPS sites that have changed hands as well-- one I live a few minutes away from is Papago Park, which was briefly a Nat'l Monument in the 20th century but was sold to the state in 1930 because the Governor wanted to use the land for economic development to offset the effects of the Depression-- I think there was briefly a fish hatchery here; it later hosted a German PoW camp during WWII, and now there's a city park that protects the geologically significant buttes, as well as a zoo and botanical garden.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

That's a good one - thanks for the suggestion!

@Automaster23 8 ай бұрын

THANK YOU! For putting in the effort to learn how to pronounce Mackinac correctly. I was watching a popular history KZfaq channel the other day that, of course, mispronounced the name. Fun fact Michigan has two first state parks because we have two state park systems. Mackinac State Park, being the first, first state park, and Interlochen state park being the second, first state park.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Haha, I've had my fair share of mispronunciations on this channel, so I'm happy to finally get one right!

@ericpierce3660 7 ай бұрын

Really enjoyed this video! You're a good teacher and you made it very interesting.

@NationalParkDiaries 7 ай бұрын

I'm so glad, thanks for watching!

@lannyfaulkner6697 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for this! My wife and I had our first date at Platt National Park on November 1st, 1971. When she passed away eight years ago, we had been married over forty-three years!

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

I'm sorry for your loss, but glad to know a National Park could provide you with such a special moment in your life. Thanks for sharing.

@EWYMedia 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for another great video! Future topic idea: Hohokam Pima National Monument. It’s the only park site that the public cannot visit.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Great topic suggestion! And thanks for watching!

@gtbkts 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the awesome content and great video!!!

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@Nick-ku2oe Ай бұрын

You should do a bookshelf tour, or maybe just go through some good writing on national parks, nature, preservation, etc

@NationalParkDiaries Ай бұрын

I get this comment so often lol! I really need to figure out a format that works to do stuff like that here on the channel 👍🏻

@randyhebbebusche3644 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for a very informative video. Was interesting in so many ways.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@SupernovaBetty 8 ай бұрын

The Abraham Lincoln birthplace is kind of hilarious because they built this whole huge extremely fancy shrine over what they THOUGHT was the cabin he was born in. Further scholarship about 30 years later proved this was not the case. So it’s preserving the IDEA of his birth cabin. The signage was very amusing in this regard.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Yeah, that was pretty jarring when I visited, not going to lie. It's just this rural, modest area in the Kentucky Backwoods, and then bam, some giant neoclassical shrine thing. Pretty out of step with the whole Lincoln mythology as well lol. I don't thing it would be built today.

@imhappy5266 8 ай бұрын

You forgot Mystery Flesh Pit NP... use to love that place

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

How could I forget 😂

@user-wj3jl6tf2q 8 ай бұрын

Great job. I really enjoyed the video.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@kathywendt7861 8 ай бұрын

Just wanted to com😂pliment you, sir. So proud of someone your age having a love for special areas and wanting keep them protected!! 👏👏👍👍❤️❤️

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Thanks so much!

@real_OleMT 7 ай бұрын

You have great delivery and speech.

@NationalParkDiaries 7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much!

@antoniodelrio1292 8 ай бұрын

Great info! Thanks!!

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@derelict_wanderer 8 ай бұрын

Just got back from a road trip to Oklahoma and north Texas about a month ago. Chickasaw Recreation area (Specifically Buckhorn campground) was our home base for that week. While there, we checked out a few trails and was fascinated to learn it was at one time Platt National Park. Was glad to see that it was still maintained in the parks system. Interesting history, and it honestly still is an oasis in a dry area. Just in a different way. So many things to see within a couple of hours. We stayed busy. And the lakeside camping was amazing. Glad to see this video. It gives us more areas to potentially visit in the future.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Nice! Glad to hear y'all had fun and enjoyed some lesser known NPS history!

@cynthiaspear-duncan7661 8 ай бұрын

oh and the Mackinac story reminds me of Jefferson Barracks in an odd way. Some history there, but there was a military barracks. Its next to the National Cemetery.

@DavisBenjaminA 8 ай бұрын

FSK was on a ship when he recognized that “the flag was still there”. It is in Baltimore harbor just north east of the Key Bridge.

@AbqDez 8 ай бұрын

I just learned about Zombie Deer Disease. Can you explain the effects of these epidemics. Also, what role do National Parks have in understanding, controlling, & preventing outbreaks (especially zoonotic diseases.)

@gfoltz5580 9 ай бұрын

Why and how was the gateway arch made a national park?

@meganstahlberger608 9 ай бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l85xp5Slzbe6Z2g.html he talks about it in this video!

@NationalParkDiaries 9 ай бұрын

Made a video all about this! You can watch it here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l85xp5Slzbe6Z2g.html

@20thcenturytunes 8 ай бұрын

Bravo sir, good job on the pronounciation - now try Ypsilanti, Charlevoix, and Epoufette - All Michigan towns. TR and John Muir really were forward thinking in the need to preserve areas of natural beauty for future generations.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

I'm going to pass on those lol 😅 But yep, couldn't agree more about the foresight some of our early conservation leaders had!

@susanbrennan5511 8 ай бұрын

Very interesting and informative content. You’ve actually sparked my curiosity into national parks. Thank you.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

So glad to hear that, thanks so much for watching!!

@YosemiteJ 8 ай бұрын

Dude, is that a Washed Out sweater you're wearing? If so, that's awesome! He's my favorite artist.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

It's actually Nathaniel Drew merch lol!

@haleydavis-martin3966 8 ай бұрын

Great as always! It’d be so cool to see a historical timeline of park history and big moments for national parks as a whole, if you’re up for making something like that! You’re awesome!

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

🤔

@sumo_catz4016 8 ай бұрын

Watched this video while in sully’s hill!! What a coincidence. Also great video

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Oh wow, that's quite the journey! Have fun and thanks for watching!

@alexconrad2904 8 ай бұрын

I love these niche topics! I think the most interesting former National Monument (other than Fossil Cycad) is Old Kasaan NM in Alaska. The population was told by the mining company in the area to move to a new site, and later its totem poles, which were the largest attraction, were moved to New Kasaan and left the old town a shell that eventually burned down. I'm not even sure Old Kasaan has anything left at its location anymore.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Oh man, never heard of this one! Gonna have to look into it. Sounds super fascinating. Thanks!

@MiniBullyMom 8 ай бұрын

Love the quote on your shirt!

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Haha, thank you!

@rdaltry777 8 ай бұрын

As I go to work passing Folger, Marion, Seward....did I mention it's a 2 mile trip?

@puttentanesame6687 8 ай бұрын

Public lands are gold nuggets to the American people. They are beyond precious, regardless of so-called 'designations'...

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Agreed!

@arc4705 8 ай бұрын

5:11 typing it 7eventh in the captions is a mood, I'm out here handwriting 4our 😭

@roktman 9 ай бұрын

Definitely an interesting video idea. While I'm more into naturally significant national parks myself, I wouldn't mind watching a video that goes more in-depth into some of the historical parks mentioned in the video.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Noted, thanks for the feedback!

@davesing 5 ай бұрын

Excellent research, as always. Do you know the story of Waterloo National Park in Southeast Michigan? Created in the 1930's as a training area for WPA and CCC workers, Waterloo is now Waterloo State Recreation Area. I think you would find its history fascinating.

@NationalParkDiaries 5 ай бұрын

I had not heard of it until now, but looking into it a little bit, it looks like it was one of the Recreational Demonstration Areas created during the Depression (part of the same program that created Catoctin Mountain Park and Prince William Forest Park). Those have a really fascinating history (which I touched on in my Catoctin video), and it looks like Waterloo is no different! I love areas like that and their connections to conservation history. Very cool, thanks for sharing!

@PurpleandGeauxld 8 ай бұрын

WELL DONE!! Thanks for the shout out in the video - that was quite unexpected. I do have a postcard of Platt NP. I’ve never found any signage photos of the other 4 - not surprising though due to the era.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

No problem, thanks for watching and thanks for the suggestion! That Platt NP postcard sounds AWESOME btw. What a cool piece of NPS memorabilia!

@PurpleandGeauxld 8 ай бұрын

Cameron, have you ever considered doing a video on the ANILCA Act from 1980 (Carter’s last major act as President)? I thought it would be fascinating to understand all that went into ANILCA and exploring the opposing opinions.

@sarashaffer-henry3796 8 ай бұрын

I believe Lake of the Ozarks in MO is a former NP too, and now a state park.

@bostonrailfan2427 8 ай бұрын

Recreational Demonstration Area under the NPS but was one of a a bunch to become a state park rather than a national park

@thtyeyo 8 ай бұрын

ohhh 💕 for actually pronouncing mackinac correctly!! i'm a michigander, it's so rare to see people from outside the state pronounce it right

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Haha, I'm glad I could make all my Michigan subscribers happy on this one 😂

@aita2565 8 ай бұрын

the dig at the Gateway Arch was funny sincerely, someone from St. Louis

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Hahahaha, I've been to Gateway Arch and it was cool! I enjoyed my visit, but it should have remained a National Memorial. It's just not a National Park worthy place...

@aita2565 8 ай бұрын

@@NationalParkDiaries lol, definitely agree! though I'm not gonna complain about it 🤣

@skykaptain007 8 ай бұрын

As a Yooper, props to pronouncing Mackinac Island correctly

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

🙏

@calvinfloyd6879 8 ай бұрын

You did Mackinac!! Thank you!!!

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Haha, yep! Fascinating park with a fascinating story. Might even deserve it's own video at some point!

@Donnys_speedshop 8 ай бұрын

Please do a video on Old Kasaan. I am Haida from Prince of Wales island in Alaska and would love to see it

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

I've actually gotten several recommendations for this one and it sounds like a fascinating topic. I'll definitely be covering it at some point!

@jamesbean1962 8 ай бұрын

How about covering state parks that should / could be national parks? eg Custer State Park, Goblin Valley State Park.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Good topic suggestion! I haven't covered many State Parks on the channel yet, but I'm certainly open to it - lots of good state park stories out there. Thanks!

@creekbandit 8 ай бұрын

59 seconds and I’m subscribed ✌️

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Welcome to the community!

@michaelzorro2738 2 күн бұрын

This is truly current history facts of the workings of the NPS. Thank you for sharing

@NationalParkDiaries 2 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@Luciferwinchester 8 ай бұрын

Amazing video! I'd love to see you talk about Hanford Reach National monument. It's a really weird place, half wildlife habitat preservation half nuclear waste cleanup. There's a lot of history to it and no one talks about it. Thanks keep up the great work!

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Oh man, Hanford is really interesting. I first read about it in a book called "A River Lost" by Blaine Harden. It's fascinated me ever since and I'll definitely be covering it at some point here on the channel. Thanks for the suggestion!

@supacheef1 8 ай бұрын

Rocky mtn arsenal is kinda the same without the national designation

@matthewgentry7660 8 ай бұрын

Dope video dude. I think a great idea would be doing a historical timeline of park history and big moments for national parks as a whole. Totally an original idea. By me.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

🤔

@meganstahlberger608 9 ай бұрын

Can you do a video with a timeline of big laws for National Parks (antiquities act, national park service being established, ect)? Thanks!

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

🤔

@carllivingston169 8 ай бұрын

I live in the Pinelands National Reserve in New Jersey, the Nation's first. A video describing what a reserve is and how it differs from a preserve, monument, park, etc. Also, at least the Pine Barrens seems to be run by the NPS, State of NJ, Public & Private Foundations and the Pinelands Alliance. A video on either the Pine Barrens or National Reserves would be awesome!

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

The Pine Barrens are fascinating to me. Definitely going to cover them some day. Thanks for the suggestion!

@markreetz1001 8 ай бұрын

Of the 5 you listed, Mackinac is the only one no longer under Federal administration according to the picture of White Horse Hill National Game Preserve. It's interesting that of all the places that you would think should be protected and has vast historical significance and natural beauty, Mackinac is it. But I really am not bothered that it isn't a national park. Having the Feds running it is not much better than selling it to developers. The state has a pretty tight reign on the Island.

@markweaver1012 8 ай бұрын

I'm never particularly happy when any particular place is 'promoted' to a full national park. The crowds inevitably increase due to the publicity and the management become more heavy-handed than when the land was managed by the state, the Forest Service, BLM or others. I often hike with my dog, am a mountain biker, and enjoy dispersed camping. National Parks typically prohibit all these activities, and so we often find ourselves having to specifically avoid national parks when enjoying the great outdoors.

@markreetz1001 8 ай бұрын

You brought up some things I didn't know or hadn't thought about! Thanks! Having "National Park" status doesn't automatically make something "better".

@kylesmith7437 9 ай бұрын

General Grant NP? Or was that a name change to Kings Canyon NP? and now administered jointly with Sequoia

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Yeah, technically just a name change and acreage increase. And it wasn't "demoted" like the others in this video since it kept its NP status. But, super fascinating story nonetheless and a good one for a future video!

@jeremiahrobineau6932 8 ай бұрын

There's a couple National Monuments that were decommissioned in Colorado that I've always wanted to learn more about... they have heavy ties with the 4 great surveys of the American West in the 1800s... you should look into Wheeler National Monument and Mount of the Holy Cross National Monument...

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Great suggestions, thanks!

@cynthiabergloff 8 ай бұрын

You should check out the tribal national park at red cliff Wisconsin

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Tribal National Parks are a fascinating subject! Thanks for the suggestion!

@peggyfoster3638 8 ай бұрын

I'd love to see the complete list.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

👍

@tedmiles2110 8 ай бұрын

They did some tree ring research on the logs; they turned out to be newer than 1809. Woops! I worked at San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park for 30 years. It was a private museum, then part of Golden Gate National Recreation Area, then a National Historical Park. Some other parks have been private museums. You might want to discuss those sites. TM retired but interested

@MojaveZach 8 ай бұрын

I learned a little bit about Mackinac Island in my history of the national parks class so that was interesting to see

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

It's the one that gets overlooked the most I feel like simply because it was "demoted" before National Parks really became a thing. Super interesting history though!

@3rin817 8 ай бұрын

Laura S. Walker State Park in South Georgia used to be a National Park (Laura S. Walker National Park) from 1937-41. The nearby Okefenokee National Wildlife Refuge is one of those places that would have been an amazing National Park had most of the Swamp not been logged. The Wildlife Refuge is protecting what is left & what has grown back since the naval store days.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

So... this comment sent me down a bit of a rabbit hole lol! I did find some info from the "Friends of Georgia State Parks and Historic Sites" referring to it as a "National Park," but I couldn't find any official documentation from the NPS that it was considered an actual _National Park_ . Best I can tell (and again, this is just what I could find online), Laura S. Walker was _a park_ under Federal control (from a New Deal-era land reclamation project), but never held the title _National Park_ . Super pedantic, I know, but I'm weird about these administrative divisions and titles lol. If you have any other resources I could look into, I'd love to learn more. I'm happy to be wrong on this one!

@3rin817 8 ай бұрын

@@NationalParkDiaries I wouldn't know any other resources, but I know it was a CCC camp. Some of the older buildings are old CCC cabins. If you ever venture out into other federal lands (non-NPS federal lands), the Okefenokee would make a fantastic episode. It's my favorite Interior Dept site. So beautiful!

@chagrined4days 8 ай бұрын

Mackinac island is one of my favorite places ever, and I didn't know it used to be a national park! Extremely cool to learn.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Yea, it's one of those ones that just kind of flies under the radar because it was deauthorized so long ago. But, very cool piece of NPS history for sure!

@DENVEROUTDOORMAN 8 ай бұрын

Nope

@donaldscott3921 8 ай бұрын

Fine episode. Subscribed to this series. Wish it had been up and running when I was working on NPS history for the 75th Anniversary. By the way, have you done/are you doing an episode about the NPS/UC Berkeley connection?

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Welcome to the community, happy to have you here! I've done episodes on Stephen Mather and Horace Albright, both of whom graduated from UCB, but other than that I haven't touched on it much. Do you have any resources or recommendations? I don't know much about the relationship, honestly.

@donaldscott3921 8 ай бұрын

@NationalParkDiaries Yes, I worked with the Mather family on a series of workshops for GGNRA rangers about the connections. It's been a while, but I'll see what I can turn up in the storage unit. Albright's book on the Birth of the National Park Service is excellent; Shankland's Steve Mather of the National Parks ditto. There is a Stephen Mather archive in the Bancroft Library; not much there, mainly UC student stuff, but worth checking out. The NPS has an excellent website about the first Park Naturalists conference, held at Berkeley; the group is photographed on the steps of (as I recall) Hilgard Hall and the entire conference publication is there: www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/symposia/conference-pn1/proceedingst.htm

@pewtercity3591 8 ай бұрын

My man forgot about the Mystery Flesh Pit National Park

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Silly me 😂

@nathanjw940 8 ай бұрын

Macinac is beautiful either way highly recommend

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Definitely want to make it up there one of these days!

@bostonrailfan2427 8 ай бұрын

Mackinac wasn’t the first state park, it was actually Yosemite that was first as it was a state park for years before the feds took it over…Mackinac was beaten by Niagara Falls State Park as the newest state park by months, and technically both were beaten by the Metropolitan parks around Boston by two years but those weren’t opened to the public until 1896

@RunSwimDrum 3 ай бұрын

Minnesota’s Itasca State Park was also established earlier than Mackinac (as a state park), in 1891.

@stayorbit1666 8 ай бұрын

Could you do a video on the history of the national park passport program?

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

That's a good one - I'll add it to my list!

@HabeasJ 8 ай бұрын

Roadless areas video please!

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

That's been at the front of my mind recently! Might start working on that soon 👌

@AJShiningThreads 9 ай бұрын

Something I would like to hear about is how we can interact with these parks. Talk about perhaps lessor know trails and adventures. Paint more of a picture. I come to these channels to be inspired. Its escapism! Please don't talk so much about environmental issues. I so care about them but I need mental rest from all the negatively in the news. I want to learn about the history, the plabts and animals and the geology and learn about the dangers of the parks.

@shirleybalinski4535 8 ай бұрын

Mackinac Island is important in this Nation's history in 2 ways. The Island was the beginning of America's fur trade years before it moved to its more celebrated trade in the Rockie Mountains. The study, developement & understanding of all gastrointestinal medicine had its beginning in medical knowledge due to a gun shot abdominal wound suffered by a French fur trader. Dr Beaumont, who was on the island, made this fellow his " study" subject for many years. The wound never healed over allowing Dr.Beaumont visuall observation of human digestion, which he wrote & lectured on. The Island remains pretty much as it was with a small village, no motor transportation allowed, and little commercial development,despite 300 years of European occupation.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

It's got a fascinating history, for sure!

@wetbobspongepants 8 ай бұрын

Great idea for content. Well presented. How about stories about the people behind these parks

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! I've actually got an ongoing series called "Park Profiles" where I talk about various figures in National Park and conservation history. Check it out if you're interested and more to come!

@mikalpechota770 8 ай бұрын

The man made NP in St.Louis should be changed back to a NM.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

I've got a video about that!

@sethlogee 8 ай бұрын

You should do a deep dive on Kings Canyon National Park one of the least known and least used national park. And Don’t include Sequoia 😂

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

King's Canyon does have a really interesting history, especially with its beginnings as General Grant NP. Thanks for the suggestion!

@josephhirsch1796 8 ай бұрын

Pictured Rocks in MI has National park status. I think its important that MI has some areas of scenic value.

@PurpleandGeauxld 8 ай бұрын

I think Pictured Rocks is a National Lakeshore, managed by the NPS/Dept. of Interior, but not a full fledged National Park (Grand Teton NP as an example).

@josephhirsch1796 8 ай бұрын

@@PurpleandGeauxld That makes sense. I know you would know the proper status of it.

@Pigpen1202 8 ай бұрын

I’m from Michigan and I cringe when I here people pronounce it wrong. Good job on doing it right 🎉

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Hahaha, thank you!

@mwolfe7883 8 ай бұрын

So what you showed of Abraham Lincoln’s birthplace national park is two separate sites that you have to drive to get from one to the other.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Correct - but still all technically part of Abraham Lincoln Birthplace NHP

@mwolfe7883 8 ай бұрын

@@NationalParkDiaries just commenting so travelers realize that. They are not right next to each other.

@custodialmark 9 ай бұрын

? Have you looked into our local, Blackwell school, for natives pre civil rights. now a Monument last month

@NationalParkDiaries 9 ай бұрын

I read the story of the Blackwell Schools for the first time in National Parks Magazine just a few months ago. I'd love to cover it here on the channel someday.

@tac185 8 ай бұрын

Would be interesting if you covered the "Recreational Demonstration Areas" that were set to made National Parks but never were. It's funny that Pennsylvania had six (Ricketts Glen, French Creek, Raccoon Creek, Laurel Hill, Blue Knob, and Hickory Run State Parks) and were built up by the CCC, but currently has no National Parks. I think WWII ended that whole plan. Seems like the IUCN even classified some of them as National Parks until fairly recently.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

I actually covered these briefly in the video I did about Catoctin Mountain Park and Camp David. They probably could be their own video as well, but if you need something to hold you over, you can check that one out!

@mountainsintomemories 8 ай бұрын

We’ve been to Ricketts, Blue Knob, and Laurel Hill. I’d want to get to the others as well. The work of the CCC in these areas is really spectacular. Ricketts Glen is really underrated. It’s interesting that the one place in PA (Delaware Gap) they now want to make a NP is lackluster by comparison.

@Nolan.Grimes 8 ай бұрын

That’s interesting. I live near Raccoon Creek and saw an old map from the 40s or late 30s where it was labeled as a National Park. I had just assumed it was a mistake

@skysthelimitvideos 9 ай бұрын

I’m glad these places are still being persevered in other ways

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Same!

@safron2442 8 ай бұрын

I am curious about something. I hear all the time here in MS about how a park on the coast, Davis Bayou, is a "National Park" despite me being unable to find any information about it being given that designation. It *is* a part of the Gulf Islands National Seashore. I am wondering if the GINS was ever considered to be a park rather than a seashore? I'm unsure as to what the designation of "National Seashore" does to protect our beauty along the coast

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

I personally have never seen where Davis Bayou would have been a separately legislated "National Park." I think what's probably happening is its being referred to as a "National Park," even though it's "official" designation is part of the National Seashore, which is technically part of the National Park System, but not an official "National Park." All of the designations are kind of confusing (I have an entire video on it lol), but generally speaking, all units of the National Park System are treated the same, even if they don't carry the "official" National Park designation, and so you'll often see people just refer to them all as "National Parks." I'm guilty of this myself.

@rikspector 8 ай бұрын

I haven't scene any of your vlogs I didn't like...yet!!!! Be Warned:) Cheers, Rik Spector

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Hahaha, thanks Rik! I'll try and keep the streak going 😂

@rikspector 8 ай бұрын

@@NationalParkDiaries “scene “was intentional😁

@justjohnn 8 ай бұрын

Love the sweatshirt

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

👌👌👌

@kiltsurfer 8 ай бұрын

Suggestion for a video: What are the hardest NP to visit? How do you visit them and what is there to see/do. I would suggest including Isle Royale National Park & Dry Tortugas National Park.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Interesting topic - thanks for the suggestion!

@DENVEROUTDOORMAN 8 ай бұрын

Walk on your two feet

@kiltsurfer 8 ай бұрын

@@DENVEROUTDOORMAN You can't! That was the whole point of the suggestion. They are parks you cannot walk to.

@jomama5186 8 ай бұрын

How does this even happen ??? How is this ever allowed ???

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

All of these places are still protected in some fashion, some are even still under control of the National Park Service. With these particular parks, most were redesignated because they didn't "fit" the prevailing notion of what a National Park should be at the time. I find it a fascinating time capsule into how we've historically thought about what a National Park should be.

@SnepperStepTV 8 ай бұрын

The reason Mystery Flesh Pit National Park isn't on this list is they reopened in 2022

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

How could I have missed it 😂

@mightytax 8 ай бұрын

I went to Macinac during the winter season. Big mistake don’t do that

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Certainly a different type of experience!

@dumbcow1 8 ай бұрын

I love looking at NPS properties of the past. My favorite has to be Papago Saguaro NM. People who live in Phoenix, have no idea that the NPS set aside the Papago Park area as a prime example of saguaro cacti, and the history of the WW2 POW camp (where the largest POW escape on American soil took place). NPS got frustrated by so many people going there, said it ruined the ecosystem. Were happy to give it over to the city, and then established Saguaro NP down by Tucson as the new site of saguaro preservation.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

So much fascinating history in these places! That's why I love telling their stories!

@cynthiaspear-duncan7661 8 ай бұрын

I love the Abraham Lincoln Birthplace. I am not so sure about the need as National Park, but its a beautiful place and close to other really cool places like Gethsemane Abbey and some awesome distilleries with historic significance.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

I really enjoyed my visit to Lincoln Birthplace! I tacked it on to a trip to Mammoth Cave (along with Lincoln Boyhood in Indiana) and had a wonderful time. Small, quiet, contemplative - really great experience.

@cynthiaspear-duncan7661 8 ай бұрын

I love all of those.@@NationalParkDiaries

@ninjagirl226 8 ай бұрын

I my opinion the distinction between parks has shifted with Gateway Arch. I’d rather see Lincoln’s birthplace or Fort McHenry (which I love Fort McHenry) as a full park before the arch.

@HunderbarDachs 8 ай бұрын

good video but the timestamps are whack

@elwoodblues9613 8 ай бұрын

I'm new to the channel. You want ideas, here's one: I'm a proud EX-Californian. And I love Yosemite; people from both NorCal and SoCal love Yosemite. It has a fascinating history since 1890, you could cover that. Or specifically the Valley's former trails. Especially the Ledge Trail, a treacherous trail that led straight up the Valley wall from Camp Curry to Glacier Point.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Welcome! Yosemite is one of my most covered parks at this point! I've recently told the early history of Yosemite and the Supreme Court case that legitimized National Parks, plus covered things like the old Firefall. Anyway, thanks for your suggestions - much appreciated!

@kimberchick8527 8 ай бұрын

What a sad video title... not your fault or anything. Just sad to hear of even one going away. I'll watch this video later after work, just wanted to comment now.

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Have no fear! All parks in this video are still under some form of protection! Just no longer have the "National Park" title.

@CampDanimal 8 ай бұрын

As a Michigander, learning that Mackinac may be the oldest state park just made me love this state even more

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Lots of good park history up there!

@PDXLibertarian 8 ай бұрын

A good topic would be the Orrick peanut and enlargement of Redwood National Park in the late 70's and how the promises that were made were not kept. What the public was told was that the park would draw tourism, but they never built the amenities, and all the lumbermen lost their careers.

@DENVEROUTDOORMAN 8 ай бұрын

Nope

@jimc.goodfellas 8 ай бұрын

Amor fati! Are you a fellow Nietzsche respecter

@NationalParkDiaries 8 ай бұрын

Haha, it's actually Nathaniel Drew merch, but I completely agree with the sentiment behind the quote. It really resonates with me.

@meganstahlberger608 9 ай бұрын

I am not doubting your pronunciation, I know you're right because you do a lot of research. I just hate that that is how it's pronounced...

@NationalParkDiaries 9 ай бұрын

It's a strange one, for sure. A holdover from a French pronunciation of an originally indigenous name.

@cherylsiedelmann6329 8 ай бұрын

Go to Mackinaw City, at the tip of the LP if you want spelling and pronunciation to match. When videos pronounce Mackinac wrong I stop watching because I know they haven't done their homework.