Ooh! I like The Arrest in this production!

Anything with Tim Minchin he is perfection

Tim Minchin's opening number, "Too Much Heaven On Their Minds"

Trial Before Pilate! Love that Rhythm. Such an underrated song. (Please upload that one btw.)

@@thetimeshadow6769 I know it’s now my favourite!

That's a really good way of putting it

One is disillusioned (anderson), the other is disappointed (minchin). One is still friends with and has slight hopes for jesus, the other is already kinda over it

Murray Head did a fantastic job on the original studio recording as well.

Anderson was very raw and angry too, in a more visceral way. He was in his own league in my opinion, vocally and acting wise, kind of untouchable. This performance is very stiff to me, his voice doesn't seem fully suited to this style of singing and he doesn't really emote much. But hey, y'all seem to be loving it so maybe I'm crazy.

There's definitely a bit of resentment with Minchin's as well. He's frustrated and disappointed with how things have changed, whereas Anderson's performance is much more fearful.

LMAO

People can change in 3 years time and be someone else entirely, you wonder if they can relate anymore. No offense but that’s the reason why communication is so important. Sometimes direct questions may lead to direct answers.

Damn haha 😂

Tim minchin stole the show. His performance stood head and shoulders above any of the other performers. Absolutely incredible. This man is gifted 😍😍😍

No, Judas be like “can you stop playing into these delusions that these disciples of yours have about you being some kind of messiah?”

I heard a theory that Judas is actually the most faithful among the disciples. Reason being, despite clearly being a follower of Jesus, his task was something that would be nigh impossible for any of the other disciples, who were willing to even harm others to protect Jesus despite his teachings. Hence, why he ended up hanging himself. But, then again, it's a theory, and it doesn't really change anything but our PoV...

Wow... so true!

Wow... so true!

yeah that's a dumb theory. There is a lot of history and contemplation of the dynamic between God and man by Church theologians and atheists understand none of that. They just come to their own conclusions and then shout to each other in their own echo chambers. No honest attempt to understand God has ever been made by an atheist least of all Tim Minchin

@@Smoomty "No honest attempt to understand God has ever been made by an atheist" yikes

Tim is everywhere and it's amazing hes done so many big things like this and Matilda as well as his comedy. I don't think they could've chosen a better person for this role

I could have sworn Tim Minchin got famous auditioning for JCS on one of those reality TV audition shows EDIT: Never mind that was Ben XD

The real-life Judas was Jewish.

@@hopekimmel314 and so was the real life Jesus.

I was just going to say that

"Me-dammnit Judas, you do this EVERY TIME."

LOL, yup. 😂

He’s a good singer too, and it sucks they still decided to autotune it and killed his performance.

Micro reactions work great in film...he looks like a robot here. I’m not saying it wasn’t a good, but this sequence was terribly directed and choreographed.

I think they used auto tune because of the amount of shows they did, it might've sounded a bit scratchy or something. Tim is really good at conveying emotions through how he sings, but he can't really do that and it sometimes feels like his top part of his arms are stuck to his body.

So they essentially used pitch correction, not because Tim was off-key, but because they wanted to change the notes Tim sung. Like in the death scene, he pours his guts out. However, after they were like, let's make it a pop song! Maybe other people needed bits of it, here and there, but not Tim. E.G. F Sharp's (one of his own songs) punchline wouldn't land without being able to hit the note.

he... here I was just thinking "Such a great singer, it's a pity he's not as good an actor".

He really stole the show

Exquisite!

I dunno. I love Tim Minchin, but I am unimpressed. I have heard local productions that were better. I heard that Minchin was furious when he found out the producers autotuned the singers in this production without the cast's knowledge. EDIT: My ear is not sensitive enough to tell if it was used here. I think not. But I know I would be too angry to do my best if I found out the producers did that previously.

the book of waylon i think this has been auto tuned however considerably less then it was originally auto tuned the first time round

@@packetofcrispsanduptobed2201 perhaps done in post, then.

Wow me too! Wait a second.....

I love your videos 🙌

Just as I'm getting reobsessed with this musical...

AYYYY SARAH ZED!!!

He’s an atheist irl

@Han Organa their emotion is so genuinely expressed! I love this version most!

The eyeliner/eyeshadow helps

@@napoleonerises It the eyeliner, Makeup is powerful and manipulative.

Soooooooo true! Well said!

Jenny Sweeney, as a Christian I totally agree

Very well articulated

Perfectly put.

fun fact: Jesus actually did exist - there are Roman accounts of his existence - but I (an atheist) don't believe he could change water into wine, or could walk on water, or was the son of God. I don't dislike those following a religion but I can't believe it myself, props to those who can!

I was just thinking that. So much more weight, now, to that choice. Or at least, weight most people are conscious of now.

i was about to say the same thing! had to watch this for class today and noticed it immediately

What do you mean? I don't really understand

@@waxy8402 its become a sign of support for palestine☺

​​@@waxy8402 The keffiyeh, particularly in that pattern, are a traditional Palestinian scarf. People wear them now to remember that Palestine is oppressed and her people are suffering under occupation and genocide, and have been for decades. It's important context to remember that during Jesus's time, the region of Galilee (itself the northernmost part of ancient Palestine) was under occupation by Rome, its people were being exploited by the occupiers, and Jesus became a symbol of civil resistance against that occupation. In fact, much of the advice Jesus gave was, in context, about passive and civil resistance than we realise. "Turn the other cheek" was in reference to the fact that Roman soldiers (who tend to be right-handed) will punch an equal in the face, connecting with the left cheek, but will backhand slap someone they consider lesser, connecting with the right cheek. When Jesus says to "turn the other cheek", it is to dare the Roman solider to treat him like an equal, not a second-class citizen. Why? To activate the Jewish citizens of Galilee to demand respect and dignity, and activate the Roman soldiers to remember their conscience, and that the Galileans are people. As I said, many of the instructions are about this, including "going the extra mile" and giving someone the shirt off your back. He didn't want his people to be meek, but to fight back. This is why Judas in this song, as the antagonist, is fearfully asking Jesus to sit down, don't let them be too loud, to not resist -- he fears the Roman violence more than he dares to dream of a free Galilee. As this musical has always been about putting the story through a modern lens with the historical context of people resisting occupation, Judas is wearing the keffiyeh to symbolise his resistance, but at the same time is almost strangled by the weight of it.

I like cake.

@@ouncy me too.

Same

I like that they both play them like they're on the verge of a mental breakdown. Usually I've seen Judas being played like a cold hearted villain and Jesus as an always patient and obedient man but Tim and Been played them as two men who are angry and completely desperate while trying to do what they think is right, in some way, even doing so to protect the other from himself. I feel like it's more human and realistic. I love how disappointed Tim sounds in this song, and how furious Ben sounds in Gethsemane, it's a nice change.

@@modwonder1668 Yes I mentioned in response to someone else's comment that that's what I like about, not just about Tim's portrayal but JCS in general. So different to the way it was taught to us in Catholic School.

so true!!!! he's awesome

I noticed that too! Saw this at Easter and became hooked.

You are joking, right? He is head and shoulders the worst Judas I've ever seen. He should stick to comedy. Compare with Carl Anderson or Ben Vereen, (or even Roger Daltrey) and he pales into insignificance. The only thing he has going for him is his current popularity.

@@tonyjover its just our opinion dude

We could get into all sorts of debates about best jesus, best judas etc etc, yawn yawn and have 100s different combination opinions. I prefer Tim Minchins portrayal (he said himself) hes not the greatest singer but thats what i like about his performance. Also i never compared him to another judas performance, just that i felt he stood out in this show against the other performers.

It happens to all of us. it won't pass.

well ur down the rabbit hole mate and their's no getting out lol XD

JSC: Jesus Super Christ

That's common. The movie had Jesus and his followers as basically hippies, many productions have Caiaphas and his priests in business suits and so on

This is supposed to be the occupy wall street movement. They are supposed to be protesters and activists

the fist symbol bears such a more intense meaning post-2020

@@ArtsyChick24 what first symbol

Somewhere between hitchhikers and college students

I'm developing the same problem! I saw this show when they streamed it last year and was blown away but for some reason this year I've become obsessed!

The amount of times I've watched this production of gethsemane is frankly unhealthy

Same here

Me too 🤣

I did that in one day, I hope I don't return cuz I need to do things

same!

You’re never too old to do the seemingly impossible.

I’m a amateur actress!

Hello how are you

You should listen to the spanish versión from Teddy Bautista and Camilo Sesto, it Will blow your mind !

really based off Anderson's performance. nothing wrong with that, only it reminds me

It's a lot more obvious in The Last Supper, but Tim himself said that he didn't know it would happen and it felt really nasty and rude.

Hello pretty How are you doing today

Tim was also outraged by the massive amount of auto tuning they did to his voice so you're not alone in your disappointment

Autotune is pretty easy to spot when it's applied heavily, basically there is no "in between" between notes, like the difference there is between a slide and stairs.

So true! ❤️

That means despite being an understudy, Carl Anderson is iconic.

Carl Anderson was a mega God... Sorry 😐 this doesn't begin to compare, to me at least...

Where did you buy it from? I really want to watch the whole show with Tim and Ben

Nobody can beat Carl Anderson. :) Best Judas ever.

Not seen Varla then?

What about brandon dixon?

@@thonypetstv3966 From what I have been able to see he is a great singer, energetic dancer, and has stage presence but a little flashy (but it went along with the scene) but I do not feel like I could rate him fairly yet. I have yet to see the live/tv version, only users KZfaqs of it, so it could be distorted. True I have only seen TM's KZfaqs but they were recorded at a higher quality.

Drew Sarich is my favorite Judas followed by BVD and Tim

Carl Anderson was a mega God... Sorry 😐 this doesn't begin to compare, to me at least...

@@sealandland3959 the goat

Totally agree, I saw the behind the scenes vid for jcs, where the makeup/hair people said they were going fir a Johnny Depp vibe with Ben foresters look fir Jesus. But watching the whole performance, I kept thinking, poldark is playing Jesus.

I listened to backstage interview of this production, (the makeup/hair people), said they were going for a Johnny Depp vibe for the look of Jesus, but I think the wig chosen achieved a Ross Poldark (a character played by Aiden Turner) look.

Love this bit of analysis. What good is the message if it gets overshadowed by a cult of personality? You can really hear Judas's fear of being caught in the middle of a mob when it all comes down on his friend -- of losing his friend after all of it. Tim Minchin was the perfect choice for this role.

@@rachelfox8108 Absolutely true for both

I agree! I didn't even know he was auto tuned until someone told me

@@sparrow8534 Wow, really? He sounds like a malfunctioning robot...

@@grantmalone yes really, i enjoy the show and his voice either way

​@@sparrow8534 Well, that's good. It's a great musical so glad you can enjoy it. I can hardly bear listening to mecha-Judas. I have other recordings I like though so all good.

I've heard that he did not like that he was autotuned lol

*smile* mine is Phantom then this

Mine is this then Phantom too 😁

My favourite Andrew Lloyd Webber musical Jesus Christ Superstar

Same here!!

For me it's Carl first then Tim, but Tim is amazing as Judas

Hello pretty How are you doing?

I literally can barely function without this in my head for 50% of the day. It's a problem. I'm always singing this under my breath

Its true. This is Jesus Christ Superstar, but told from Judas' point of view; he is the main character.

Judas usually does. Hes the powerhouse of the show!!

Agreed, but I'm pretty sure Burr doesn't have more lines than Hamilton.

Michael Krämer yeah Hamilton has more

i was legit thinking about this last night. in history, burr and judas are hated. however, in hamilton and jcs respectively, while they are still an antagonist of sorts, they’re viewed with a lot more sympathy. for burr, id say the songs that allow this are wait for it and the world is wide enough. for judas it’s heaven on their mind, blood money and the song where he commits suicide (i’ve forgotten the name lol)

Then you haven't heard Carl Anderson!

Not so great when it's not auto-tuned.

They're gone! It was a miracle! Didn't you hear? :o

PS: Tim Minchin’s new album in dropping Nov 20, 2020: Apart Together. Several tracks are available now. Check iTunes, Apple or others. Apart Together really rips my heart open.

yes pls!! it was quite possibly my fave part of the musical

Yes! Best Gethsemane performance ever!!!!

It’s up!

@Ann Pommer I 'm with you on Steve Balsamo oerformance; it gives me the chills x

@Ann Pommer Steve and Ted for me.

THIS

I heard a recording with the raw vocals once. It was rather low quality but you could tell his unfiltered voice was _amazing_

Thank Glee or whatever crap

@@PineapplesPerhaps I agree. Tim Minchin is a legitimate bad ass!

I was thinking the same thing! There's no difference in the tone of the music. Too perfect and not enough soul.

You and me both