Insomnia insight

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The Sleep Coach School

The Sleep Coach School

Күн бұрын

When you combine the sleep window idea from Martin Reed and the timeless night idea from Michael Schwartz, you get a timeless sleep window. This is a way of taking steps from safety and control to freedom and sleep in a structured way, yet without rules. In this episode we explore the timeless sleep window in detail.
Do you have trouble sleeping? Can’t sleep? Have questions about insomnia or sleep?
Please submit here and I will try to respond soon in an Open class episode.
www.thesleepcoachschool.com/h...
Would you like to work with a me and/or learn more? Awesome! Here are some great options:
- The Insomnia Immunity Group Coaching Program www.thesleepcoachschool.com
- BedTyme, a sleep coaching app for iOS and Android.
- My book Set it & Forget it (great place to start!) or This is Natto (if you want a deep dive into the mind) on Amazon.
The Insomnia Immunity program is perfect if you like learning through video and want to join a group on your journey towards sleeping well.
BedTyme is ideal if you like to learn via text and have a sleep coach in your pocket.
Not sure where to start? Check out these playlists!
This is natto - the perfect place to start learning!
• This is Natto - Start ...
Success stories - if you need hope and inspiration, this is for you.
• Success stories
Insomnia insight - a list of every single episode.
• Playlist
Talking insomnia - guests with trouble sleeping or experts share their stories / tips.
• Talking insomnia
Hypnic jerks, hypnic awareness and other common issues.
• Hypnic jerks and more.
Fatal insomnia - for those concerned about ffi and sfi.
• Familial and sporadic ...
Speed bumps - when you think you had a setback or “relapse.”
• Talking insomnia #55: ...
The self coaching model
• The model
Best!
This content does not constitute medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment, and should never replace any advice given to you by your physician or other qualified healthcare providers.

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@user-dx3vh2lr6r
@user-dx3vh2lr6r 2 ай бұрын
Hi I am a Filipino.. I suffer so much of insomnia for 15 yrs...I'm thankful Soo much for your teaching
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 ай бұрын
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@pmuns0n
@pmuns0n 11 күн бұрын
I just discovered your channel today and man... I wish I'd done so sooner! Turning my alarm clock around so I couldn't see the time was the first thing I tried on my own, and even just doing that made a difference. Even if I don't sleep well, without knowing the time I lie there and actually *rest* vs. stressing myself out doing math in my head, trying to figure out how much sleep I could "theoretically" still get.
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 11 күн бұрын
So so glad you’re here 😊!
@MsAllisonL
@MsAllisonL 3 жыл бұрын
1) I’m glad your mother let you know that your previous video had no sound 2)I’m so grateful to you and so grateful for your approach and the BedTyme app. I literally had tears of relief in my eyes watching this video. You have no idea how much you’ve already helped me-after only one night!
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын
Allison!! You know, when you see that there’s nothing wrong with you... that you’re just going through something many many have before, that there’s really just some confusion in the safety radar in the brain... that’s such a relief. I’m so glad you found the app and the channel, and thanks so much for being here 😊
@tomgnau
@tomgnau Ай бұрын
"The goal is to let go of control and let sleep happen by itself, which it does when you're not trying to control it." Nice.
@lakegirl7729
@lakegirl7729 25 күн бұрын
Excellent!🎉
@laurabehenna7950
@laurabehenna7950 2 жыл бұрын
I love this approach, Daniel! It's so much more merciful than traditional cbt-i, which I think of as the "Marine drill sergeant" approach to insomnia treatment. Not very gentle or merciful and rather harsh on those of us who already suffer from anxiety. I've always avoided cbt-i because it seemed too rigid and inflexible. But your version is one I can do. I'm already doing the timeless sleep window and it feels great. You may be becoming the new thought leader in insomnia treatment. Cbt-i desperately needs an update and revision of the kind you are providing. Hope you keep it up!
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын
Laura! I’m so glad to read these lines :-) and you know this all comes from interacting with so so many people who had exactly that drill sergeant experience which of course isn’t helpful at all! Thanks so much for the support and you know the community here I’m sure will make a real difference in the sleep universe :-)
@stevensoutar2073
@stevensoutar2073 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Daniel, Your channel has really helped me, thank you!
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын
Steven! Soo glad it has 😊!!
@debmccollum9729
@debmccollum9729 Жыл бұрын
This is truth!! So helpful! Thank you! ❤
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 Жыл бұрын
😊!
@lydiamccrumadadorbor7551
@lydiamccrumadadorbor7551 2 жыл бұрын
Thks coach Daniel this is the best video I have watched
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын
So so glad to read this 😊
@soblessedchelsea59
@soblessedchelsea59 10 ай бұрын
I intuitively did this because looking at the clock would make me more anxious so I stopped. I am glad I found your channel because I have been dealing with this since 2017 but have done well to get to a good place . I am currently having a speed bump but I have had major life changes. Having a baby triggered me but I know once I get a routine going I will be ok. My doc suggested reading why we sleep but I heard bad reviews on this channel so I don’t think I want to go there. I glad I found you because I felt very alone and weird that I have this issue.
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 10 ай бұрын
So very glad you found your way here as well and that you intuitively felt this being helpful. We have a momsomnia playlist that could be really helpful as well. Be in touch 🙂
@amandasvensson5714
@amandasvensson5714 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Daniel. Thanks for a great episode. For a year I have been trying to use sleep restriction to get control of my sleep. That I tried to get control was probably what made it so hard. I was so scared and disappointed every time sleepless nights came back. When I was in your program Bed tyme, I learned more about accepting insomnia and I have without thinking gone over to ignore the time, do not go to bed too early and try to enjoy being up late. For me, it is important not to sleep too long because then it affects the chances of falling asleep. However, it is not so awful anymore to be awake. I have now had a stable sleep for six months. A few times a month I have a hard time falling asleep but it is not at all as chaotic as before. The key is probably just to ignore time ... not try to control. A big thank you for all the help!
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын
Amanda, wow thanks so much for sharing this. I believe this is the way, and really, the fact that the struggle has mellowed down so much, I think this says it all. I do believe you’re right that one can sometimes get into a pattern of sleeping very long some days and very little others.. then I think it does help as you say to disallow yourself from sleeping too long. Perhaps not so much to preserve sleep drive, but rather to reduce hyperarousal and performance anxiety by teaching the brain that it’s not “I have to get as much as possible” that is the mindset that leads to peace. Love reading again about how the dust is settling and I can sense sleep coming off the safety radar. Thanks so much for staying in touch and... ha det bra!!
@issemreltih
@issemreltih 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. Very helpful. Removing the pressurw
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 6 ай бұрын
Anytime 😊
@judithrussell5095
@judithrussell5095 2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad to have found you. I have struggled with insomnia for years. Tried very expensive CBT I and become completely manic about getting out of bed after 15 minutes. I found ACT helpful but started to make the relaxation exercises a struggle so they didn’t work. You make complete sense to me. Have bought your books.I’ve just relaxed for the last 3 nights and I feel much better. ‘Why We Sleep’ terrified me when I listened to the author on Masterclass. Thank you for your work. I need to be careful not to obsess about your classes!
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын
Judith! I’m so glad as well 😊 I think you’ll do so well, you’ve surely picked up a thing or two already, and I hope in this channel you’ll see the pieces coming together. Thanks for the support!!
@mohammedsadeysalmi
@mohammedsadeysalmi 3 жыл бұрын
Hi coach, I think THIS is the BEST video you have EVER made. I currently am in a truce phase. I got a couple days of sleep after 3 weeks of strict sleep restrictive effort. I thought that 3 week period of hell was the cause that I could finally enjoy a few days where sleep took place. However, since the last two days the anxiety of ''having to go through that again'' really really took a hold of me and eventually yesterday was the night I didn't get any sleep at all, and today very little sleep. I didn't know what to do, and whether my life would continue like this where sleep becomes a non paying full time job (lol). Watching this video gave me some relief and direction as to what I should be doing. Thanks !
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! So so glad this video came so timely, and I do believe this is the way 😊
@user-mg6cp8vj8c
@user-mg6cp8vj8c 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you such a great channel, hope this works ! love from an insomniac in south korea
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын
You’re so very welcome, I think you’re the first person I know of to be part of this channel from South Korea, so and extra special welcome! Hang in there and let us know how things go!
@vibingbig488
@vibingbig488 3 жыл бұрын
Going timelessness is very helpful note to an overstimulated insomniac put away your iPhone stay away from social media at all cost only light hearted stuff, 1 fun activity during the day for serotonin .
@coyotegals
@coyotegals 9 ай бұрын
Hi Daniel! Thank You. This makes so much sense to me, meaning your entire philosophy. I have been practicing this ‘window’, feels like, honestly, forever. (it and the hard rule, in bed before sunrise) throughout most of my life, I have informed my friends, partners, family…. “don’t tell me what time it is. I don’t want to know how much sleep I didn’t get.” This has been a struggle and a joke. However, not a joke to me. Don’t tell me! cheers 😂
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 9 ай бұрын
So so glad it does! And you know, when we are told something is the “gold standard”, we can keep trying it over and over. Sometimes a new perspective is all we need 😊 Happy you’re here and let us know how things go (we won’t laugh of course!!!)
@wootzapful
@wootzapful 2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad I found your channel, it really gave me some hope during this struggle. Lastly I had a complete week of good sleep, which was not possible in the months before. So I seem to really start being okay with my anxiety more from time to time. However, there is one thing I am doing, which I don't know is something you should be doing in this situation. Whenever I am awake at night, I would just lie there and relax, follow my emotions and thoughts, but without being too attached to them (as much as possible). Even if I don't fall asleep for a few hours, I am just okay with relaxing, maybe I don't even notice that I fall into light sleep. Nevertheless, I noticed that I would feel way better the next day as I did not struggle that much at night. However most people suggest to do something during this time, like reading a book, watching netflix or whatever. Would you also say that this is the better approach to take or am I just doing fine?
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you’re here! And you know, it doesn’t matter, if we feel like just resting is what makes it the most okay to be awake,,, this is the way… if it’s watching Hulu, then maybe that’s the way… sleep happens all by itself so it’s good to know that there’s no thing that is better than the other!
@Grawp55
@Grawp55 10 ай бұрын
I love that you say a short nap in the day is ok, because my family always hounds me for doing that and blames my naps for my insomnia at night. But i cant survive on the lousy night sleep, and drift off so easily in the middle of the day! (after coffee too, dare i say!?)
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 9 ай бұрын
Oh absolutely! And see the coffee doesn’t matter, in fact when we want to be awake, sleep happens easily. And when we are okay with being awake not only during the day, but at night, sleep happens easier then as well
@bridgesandbonn
@bridgesandbonn 2 жыл бұрын
I love this! My therapist has been insisting I try all the strict stuff, and for getting to sleep, the strict stuff has worked - having a routine and picking a time I like, but it's kept me tense on the other end waking up too early with tightness in my chest. I realize mine could be labeled PTSD induced insomnia because my situation was caused by an incident - am hoping you have a vid somewhere on that kind of challenge. It's funny about knowing what time it is; I pretty much know exactly what time it is most of the time to an eerie degree - to the minute. Most all my life, 7am was my exact natural wake up time, no alarm. I'd wake up so chirpy and happy, I annoyed other, more bleery eyed sometimes, lol, ... that is, until this past year. After my hubby's big drama in the night (his nerves, not mine), seems my fight or flight ADHD chemicals just took over and it's been miserable. I am so resonating with your videos - you make so much SENSE. I've always been able to manage my weight by not stressing over it, I'm sure this is exactly the same. I am SO going to try this. My therpist will probably groan because he's old fashioned, but what can I say? I love your logic.
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын
So so glad it makes sense and you know, there’s this particular success sorry I thought you may like, Kristen in Talking insomnia 84. She found that a gentler way helped her much!
@pureturk02
@pureturk02 2 жыл бұрын
Since watching your videos, I slept around 3am last night. Several night before that I slept around 1am. This is coming from a guy who couldn't sleep until 4 or 5am regularly... Oh but then again I'm not attached to the outcome either way ;) Thanks for your videos! They've been helpful
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын
So glad to read this 🙂 thanks a bunch for sharing!!
@wednesdayschild3627
@wednesdayschild3627 3 ай бұрын
My inner toddler is throwing a tantrum with the sleep window.
@mattm6673
@mattm6673 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Daniel Great episode, I hope you have been well. Im generally happy to report I’m mostly back to normal. I sleep 7-8 hours per night & most nights fall asleep with no effort. I think the remaining issue for me now is I’m still upset by my threshold. For example. I woke up this morning a little earlier than usual, around 5:30. But tonight at 11, i have plans to watch things with friends. So its likely I wont even be in bed until 1, leaving me with only four and a half hours before hitting my threshold. I sleep fine now because there’s been no general “interference” to my sleep. I trust I’ll generally fall asleep around 11 or 12 and wake up around 7 or 8. But I notice increased anxiety when things do not go according to plan. And tonight is really not going according to plan - i was up far earlier than I would have liked, and I can’t exactly go timeless tonight when I’m awaiting a certain event. I was just wondering if i could get a bit of insight or positive encouragement? :) i really feel so much better in general, but what I really desire now is true freedom, the freedom of “even if i dont sleep, thats ok”. I still fear night following a sleepless night knowing my anxiety is going to be even higher. I guess the summary is, ive been sleeping so, so, so much better. 7-8 hours every night, generally timeless, wake up feeling rested, refreshed etc. But im not FREE. When things seem to not go according to plan, or when I feel my “control” slipping, I fear the spiral.
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt!! Thanks so much for being in touch and I’m very happy to hear how you’ve done so much better! And all you shared here makes total sense. The thing is that there can be this sort of more drawn out version of success regress if you will. Things are pretty stable... but some fear lingers... I think the key is to look at every time there’s a change in plans or things happen that are off as opportunities. Opportunities to see that no matter what happens... you’re safe. You may be really anxious and scared, you may be upset at yourself for having a threshold... but you’re safe. And each time there’s been something “off” happening, then you have seen once again that even if there was an internal storm, you’d be safe. Oh and also, not having a plan can help! So that instead of things not going according to plan, there wasn’t really one to begin with, so they can’t not go according to plan. Easier said than done, but just having this in mind can help. Did this make sense Matt?
@mattm6673
@mattm6673 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Daniel, it makes total sense. I did have a bit of a hyperaroused night with some tossing and turning, but as always, im fine today. Just need to continue to be more and more natto. Best!
@gibememoni
@gibememoni 3 жыл бұрын
I still have lingering fear as well, but the good news is we were both able to beat insomnia and get back to normal. So we can always do that again. We will never have total control over sleep, but at least we have proven that we can get back to normal after awhile.
@TrevorStoneaker
@TrevorStoneaker 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, Any news on if Micheal may potentially make a return to the channel? I remember first hearing about this timeless night idea and it reminds me of what a great coach Micheal is. It was always good when you and him would do open class together as you both had similar but slightly different insights which was really useful.
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jake!! I took a screenshot of this comment and texted him 😊 I know he’s enjoying semi-retirement but hope to have him back soon... will keep you posted!!
@elinlove18
@elinlove18 Жыл бұрын
hi daniel, thanks for your videos :) they're such a relief after all of the other sleep advice online. i'm wondering, what can i tell myself if i wake up and i can see it's starting to get light outside, meaning it's maybe 5am, and panic a little bit because i feel like i haven't slept enough (or, simply because it's a time cue that i can't really ignore)? sometimes this is enough to get that anxiety going, even if it wasn't really there before. i'm liking the timeless sleep window idea, but that brightening makes the night feel...not timeless.
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 Жыл бұрын
Hi Emily! So glad they’ve been helpful 😊 I think when we see that it’s not the light that’s keeping us awake/struggling but trying to find the a way to control sleep/emotions by for example a mantra… this shows us the way to peaceful sleep and peace of mind
@me2also
@me2also Жыл бұрын
Emily this is exactly my issue as well. The timeless sleep window was working for me so well until I started to sabotage it by trying to figure out the time by looking at how light or dark it is. I’m coming to realize like Just like I ignore the clock I need to ignore the other cues as well because those cues contribute to the struggle. I’m hoping that mindset gets me back on track.
@elinlove18
@elinlove18 Жыл бұрын
@@me2also i think that it will! i’m happy to say that the attitude of not caring so much has been huge for me, and i sleep through the night now and even if i do wake up early and it’s getting light out, i just roll over and fall back asleep. best wishes on your journey!!
@me2also
@me2also Жыл бұрын
@@elinlove18 wow!!!! I hope to get there. I've had insomnia 6 years!!!
@labemolmineur
@labemolmineur 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. I am on my seventh day of SRT, and this video has voiced many of my thoughts and questions. I'm on 7 hours, but the feeling in the morning is like severe, not mild, sleep deprivation. I get up and just want to crawl in a corner and cry because the headache is like knives, way more than it was before starting the therapy, because I feel absolutely horrible and I don't have the energy or the motivation to do anything or face another human being. I used to give myself 9, sometimes 9.5 or 10 hours in bed to catch up on sleep, which was very shallow and fragmented, and SRT has helped me realize that this in itself was worsening and fragmenting my sleep. But part of me really feels like I would trust the process better if I gave myself 8 hours. I know it will take time to actually sleep that amount again, but I will not be feeling like I'm doing my body and my brain an assault because I'm giving myself a healthy sleep window (my ideal sleep amount is about 8.5 hours before insomnia). Your "diet vs lifestyle change" really turned on a lightbulb. It's exactly how I feel. Now, with SRT, if I wake up in the middle of the night, I worry more about sleep because I know there's not much time left before morning comes. Having to keep track of the number of times I wake up also makes me more anxious- how am I supposed to be "counting" each wake up time when I should be sleeping? Overall, my anxiety is higher. It's been only a week, and maybe I should be patient, but something feels wrong, and continuing to subject my body and my brain to this feel almost criminal. I am constantly asking myself whether I should listen to my body or push through this because good results willcome later. I am generally not one to give up fast, but I don't have full trust in the process. I don't want to go back to point zero. I am falling asleep faster, because I'm much sleepier when bedtime comes, and I toss and turn less, which is an improvement, but mornings feel horrible- much more horrible than they ever were. Where I am, there are no specialists (my doctor is a pulmunologist who also does sleep medicine, but mostly for sleep apnea) and I am only on SRT. He also prescribed a sleeping pill for the first week or two, but I can't get myself to take it. I don't want a benzene-derivative in my brain. This can't be the only solution, and I know that pills don't induce natural sleep- sedation is not sleep. I love the idea of not "chasing sleep". I know I probably have other issues- my headache doesn't feel normal, and I am at least a little depressed, so I also feel like not addressing them and just trying to teach my body to sleep despite underlying issues is not so healthy. However, all of what you say makes a lot of sense, but I wonder about its results. Has it actually worked with people with insomnia?
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so so glad it makes sense and you know, I think it helps so much knowing you’re not the only one who’ve felt this way about sleep restriction. So, to learn more and see how the teaching here has helped others, I suggest checking this playlist: kzfaq.info/sun/PL6RQ1GS7B1cj68v9hdoXYv_fpOR65oI3U Hope it will help much!!
@valerie963
@valerie963 Жыл бұрын
@labelmolmineur how have you been? reading over your comment seems similar to me but curious how things have gone for you? Did you stick with this??
@kesterjohnpalarao6861
@kesterjohnpalarao6861 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Daniel, it's me again. I've been sleeping a lot last week with almost 8 to 9hrs of sleep for the last 2 days. I had a relapse last night which I think was one of my most horrible nights as I anticipate the sound of the alarm clock which my grandfather sets at 3 AM. Thinking that if I'd not fall asleep earlier then I might hear the sound of the alarm and alerts my mind that it's already 3AM. Last night was a hell because i kept on checking the doors if it's locked even if i knew it was which I think is that I developed a compulsive behavior which ironically occurs during nighttime because yeah I have this sleep anxiety and I can't relaxed myself. The very problem of mine is that whenever I overcame anxious thoughts and behavior, my mind always kept on searching for new reasons to be anxious like thoughts and behaviors. Last night was one of my odd nights because I used to sleep right before 1 AMish even if I have anxious thoughts that correlates with my sleep. It seems like I never felt sleepy at all and my anxiety really spikes and it's hard for me to relax. I ate a fermented shrimp last night and I want to ask you if it is one of the culprit why I might not felt sleepy at all and being very anxious. I just looked up to internet that shrimps or fermented foods contains a lot of histamines which causes wakefulness. I dunno if i should buy into that knowledge but it's literally made me anxious a lot.😭
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын
Hi John, You know, it can really help to see why you slept well last week. Imagine this fictional person who is not willing to lose even a minute of sleep. That is completely unacceptable to them! They do anything they can and can think of to make sure they don’t lose a single minute of sleep. This person will have a ton of insomnia! Because imagine the pressure when you have to make sure you don’t lose even a minute of sleep. Imagine on the other hand a person that is ok with not sleeping much. They will actually sleep well because there’s no pressure at all. When you slept better, it was in fact because you were more willing to be awake at night. It may sound kind of odd that it always is that! Because even if you’re super sleepy, if you are very worried (in other words not willing to lose any sleep) then you still won’t sleep. So weird as it sounds, when you sleep well it is because you’re more OK with not sleeping well. You have started to become more like the second person. And when you become more unattached, when you are OK with having both a night of great sleep and a night a little sleep, then you truly are on the path towards never struggling with sleep again! Now of course the fear doesn’t go away immediately, the. The brain wants you to stay alert! When you see “through” this, when you see that it’s just a bit confused... then you’re soon leaving control behind again and sleep happens on it’s own.
@kesterjohnpalarao6861
@kesterjohnpalarao6861 3 жыл бұрын
@@thesleepcoachschool8192 thank you so much for this Daniel, it relieves my anxiety a lot. What I am having now isn't necessarily disabling because i always had a great day even after poor night of sleep. May I ask if how to get rid of these anxious feelings because It's so hard to not be anxious. I know to myself if I were just not that anxious person about sleep then I might sleep well. It's just that I'm anxious in anything about sleep, doing compulsive things just to satisfy my sleep beliefs and it turns out to be hellish cause my sleepiness banished then I'm starting to feel anxious again. I'm stucked in this never ending cycle of fear. There are times when I think ah yeah I finally overcame my fear but as soon as I hit my head in the pillow, another anxious thought pops out then it literally made me frantic. The latest fear I've got is by doing compulsive behavior just to satisfy my sleep beliefs that if i never do that then I may not sleep. 😭
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын
Anytime John! Thanks for being here. The key here is “get rid of”. As long as we want to escape discomfort, it gets very sticky. When we are ok experiencing for example anxiety, that’s when magic happens. Let’s use an analogy! Remember that thoughts produce emotions. How we think gives rise to how we feel. And when the brain thinks there’s a threat, it wants to make sure we are safe and it sends us these warning signals, warning thoughts. These warning thoughts produce anxiety. You’re taking a stroll in your city and randomly see your friend walking towards the train tracks. He is about to cross them in a few seconds. But you see that there is actually a train approaching! What do you do? You shout at your friend. But he doesn’t hear you! So you shout even louder. Now he covers his ears! You start throwing stones at him, screaming at the top of your lungs! Then he finally turns around and says - yes, I KNOW it looks like a train, but it’s not a real train, we are shooting a movie!. Then you go “oooh”. You now see the camera crew and the props and the director giving you an annoyed look. When your friend showed that he listened, and you understood what was happening, there wasn’t any need for you to shout or warn him anymore. You kinda just wished he would have told you from the start. This way, you wouldn’t have had to get all worked up trying to save him! In this analogy, your brain is trying to warn you of something it thinks it’s important and when you try to ignore the brain and not listen, it feels even more strongly that it has to warn you! So, how can you show the brain that you’re listening? 1 A daily thought download Just spend five or 10 minutes every day at about the same time writing down everything that you worry about or those recurrent thoughts you have. This is a great way to show the brain that you’re listening so it feels no need to nag you. 2. Be willing to go there I think this is really effective but it can be a little scary. When your brain warns you of something, imagine that thing it warns you about. For example, if your brain says what if you lose your job because you can’t sleep, then you actually imagine that happening. When you are willing to experience X (even if it’s scary!) then the brain has no reason to warn you about X.
@yaasirruho2876
@yaasirruho2876 8 ай бұрын
Hi Daniel, Thank you for the videos you post for the insomnia people. I understood the trap of sleep efforts and how the timeless sleep window works to eleminate that. However, i kind of feel my mind is actively chasing sleep even though i stopped the habits that feeds it. It feels Its like a program running everynight. Any advice that can help.
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 8 ай бұрын
Anytime, I’m so appreciating the support and, what you describe is very common. Check Insomnia insight 501 where we see they the surface behaviors can be tricky and looking deeper really helps
@sensualbroseidon514
@sensualbroseidon514 3 жыл бұрын
Hello asleep Coach :). I’ve been diagnosed with Psychophysiological Insomnia. I can’t find much online about my condition. I had a night of lousy sleep that was brought on by loud thoughts and then it has continued ever since. I was diagnosed by a sleep specialist with psychophysiological Insomnia and I’m lost as to what this means or if it’s even curable. It’s been 3 months since it all started and I’m starting to lose hope. Can you PLEASE do a video on my condition so I can learn more and possibly gain some hope that I will be ok. Thank you kindly.
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Sorry to hear about the struggle but glad you’re here. You know, psychophysiological insomnia really is what we call “insomnia”, it’s the most common way of experiencing trouble sleeping. You can check Insomnia insight #40 for more. But more importantly, check out the playlists and the content here... it applies to everyone with trouble sleeping. You’ll do well once you start learning 👍👍
@evasara7477
@evasara7477 10 ай бұрын
Still struggling here, it’s so difficult not to “chase” sleep when one knows to have slept very little, I’ll try this timelessness window, it did seem in the past that not knowing the time helped
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 10 ай бұрын
Hang in there Eva, you know, what I found helps more than anything else is self kindness. Of course it is so so difficult to not chase something we long for, something that’s been missing… and when we no longer criticize ourselves for this, then things get easier. Oh and remember, when we try something, then that’s tricky because we are looking to achieve. But seeing that something helped in the past because we let go, we tried less, that can really help
@Statuescrumbleforme
@Statuescrumbleforme 2 жыл бұрын
How do you practice the timeless sleep window when the activities you would like to do all have a built in clock like the ipad etflix?
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! Often you can put a little tape over the part of the screen that displays time. But if this isn’t practical, the question really becomes what is the most easy path. Is it watching some Netflix which you find enjoyable but you will see what time OR reading a book which may be less enjoyable but then you will not know what time it is? Here’s the thing. Whatever you plan to do if you’re awake at night isn’t helpful if it feels like a punishment or a chore. So if reading a book for example doesn’t spark any type of excitement no matter what book you choose, then it’s probably not that helpful. On the flipside if it feels like it could be pretty OK, then it may be a really good option. Now let’s say reading really doesn’t feel like something you would like to do. Well then you can still watch, and take advantage of seeing the time! This is how you turn knowing the time into something that can actually help. Instead of having the automatic reaction which is to calculate and do sleep math and become more anxious, you can simply take note of your thoughts and observe them. “Aha, when I saw the time I started calculating, this means I’m still trying to have some control”. “Aha, when I saw the time I became a little scared, this means I’m still a bit afraid of being awake.” “Aha, when I saw what time it is I didn’t really respond to this, there wasn’t any anxiety or calculating, this means the brain is starting to understand that there’s nothing to be afraid of!” So you can turn learning the time to learning about yourself in this way!
@reneemark8184
@reneemark8184 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Daniel. Ive been struggling with sleep for over five yrs now it started off with me estimating five hrs of sleep per night, now its just two hrs only. Im also experiencing night sweats along with this and its now starting to affect me mentally and physically. My mind is all over the place at times and sometimes I become anxious, any advice and do you think the night sweats is associated my insomnia?
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Renee, Sorry to hear about the struggle but glad you found this channel. Of course nothing here is a medical advice, whenever you are concerned about your health to speak to your doctor. I will say that many on this channel have experienced sweating as well as palpitations and breathing fast and other manifestations of fear. What often helps is education, when we understand something it’s often less scary to us and then things become a little easier.
@eja93fira
@eja93fira 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have a question. I'm currently facing a rough cycle of insomnia. For now its been around two days of me not sleeping at all. Should I push through another night of sleeping with no sleeping medication or should I just take my meds? I really wanted to sleep on my own but the anxiety is getting to me.
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! This is a tricky question. I will say that so much insomnia happens when we try to not take medication. A lot of people try to come off the medication but end up going back on it. This really happens mostly because they tried to come off. What do I mean by that? Well I mean they considered it a trial! When you come off the medication or a sleeping pill and think of it as an experiment, you think “Let me see if I can sleep without this” then you have started a trial. And whenever you are doing something as a trial, you want to keep track of how well you’re doing. So you go to bed without taking the pill, and you wonder what will happen. After 30 minutes you become a little bit worried, after one hour you think oh my gosh I’m not gonna sleep at all. But you decide to keep going and you sleep a little bit at night. But you decide to keep going with the trial. After four sleepless nights, having tried to go without the pill, you decide it’s not working and you go back on the pill. Then it seems for sure like you cannot sleep without it. But what actually happened is that it was the act of self monitoring and the trialing/experiment that was the reason you didn’t sleep! So I would say, what you or anyone else does any given night, if really doesn’t matter. It’s education, understanding, which takes some time - this is what makes a difference!!!
@katelingates-gonzales7086
@katelingates-gonzales7086 2 жыл бұрын
In your coaching book, you mention that the timeless window reduces desire. Could you explain this one please? :)
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын
Sure! In the broader sense of the desire to sleep, the attempt at control is part of this. And as we abandon attempts at control, we take steps away from that desire for sleep/desire to control sleep. That’s all really!
@katelingates-gonzales7086
@katelingates-gonzales7086 2 жыл бұрын
@@thesleepcoachschool8192 Makes sense now. Thank you :)
@Ellael98
@Ellael98 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Daniel, your videos are amazing. I wish I could take part in your program but I can’t afford it cause I am a student. Do you think it’s possible to recover with your videos as well? Best, Marie ☺️
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ella, completely understand and you know what, peaceful sleep requires nothing at all. Its absolutely possible! For example Veronika and Kristen, the two most recent guests, they didn’t work in any of the programs. Just learn and listen and you’ll arrive where you want to be.
@Ellael98
@Ellael98 2 жыл бұрын
@@thesleepcoachschool8192 So grateful. Thank you! 🙏🏼
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын
Anytime thanks for being here!
@kerryknott9335
@kerryknott9335 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this seems like a 180 from your second video. I just found your channel today, and decided to start at the beginning. I listened to your first and second videos, and then saw this one. This video seems to go completely against what you recommended in your second video. Have you changed your approach over time? Should I just ignore the second video?
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 Жыл бұрын
Yes! You’re seeing years of evolution within minutes. I’d say ignore the first one, the This is Natto playlist is a nice place to start, link in description of any new video
@elainecolter4079
@elainecolter4079 Жыл бұрын
In an earlier episode, you recommended not napping. Has your philosophy changed in the past year or so? I'm sort of confused about a few things that seem to differ from earlier videos. It's fine if things have evolved, I just need clarification. Another thing is in an earlier episode you recommend restrictions on sleep window to get about an hour less than you think you will need. Here, you recommend using a window that matches your perceived need. Could you please clarify?
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 Жыл бұрын
Hi Elaine, yes many changes! If you check the This is Natto playlist, I think much clarity will follow
@sussexperformance185
@sussexperformance185 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been trying sleep restriction but I get so anxious and sleepy in the day time I’m actually thinking about going to bed so much just to give the anxiety a break the hours can’t pass quickly enough.
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes this is so so common and why traditional CBTi is so tricky. Check the This is Natto Playlist, it will show you a gentler and more effective way…
@sussexperformance185
@sussexperformance185 2 жыл бұрын
@@thesleepcoachschool8192 do you have a link ?
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын
Sure! This is natto - the perfect place to start learning! kzfaq.info/sun/PL6RQ1GS7B1cik8Xr8iVdxmKB9FYieevYj There are other playlists as well in the description of any new video.
@sussexperformance185
@sussexperformance185 2 жыл бұрын
@@thesleepcoachschool8192 thank you
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын
Anytime!
@MM-kq2rt
@MM-kq2rt 2 жыл бұрын
Ccan I set timeless window from 12-8
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! I replied just now on the other of these comments here!
@Moody90524
@Moody90524 2 жыл бұрын
What do I do when I can't stay awake when I come home after work... I am 65 years old and after not sleeping much for a few days I come home from work tired exhausted and so sleepy I absolutely cannot stay awake, I try with all my might but I end up in my recliner falling asleep over and over again and then when night comes I can't sleep and this causes extreme anxiety! What should I do?
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, We call this “Couchsomnia” and I think yes, not sleeping can help, but when we aren’t afraid of being awake later, that’s really what helps 🙂
@MM-kq2rt
@MM-kq2rt 2 жыл бұрын
Can I set the times less window 12-8
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! I think this sounds very nice, just remember it’s not important what exact numbers we pick… this is simply an invitation to let go of trying to have control 👍 And deciding when we start our day and when we no longer now what time it is… this is a nudge towards no control 😊
@gillianalexander3949
@gillianalexander3949 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Daniel, thank you very much for this video. I have been using CBTi (rigidly!) for about 4 weeks, with some success, but still plenty of room for improvement. After listening to your video, I would like to pick 5am as a rising time - I think 7 hours is about right for me. My current sleep window is 10pm - 4:30am BUT I almost always wake well before my alarm (around 4am). So I am wondering whether 4am is my 'natural' wake-up time (seems VERY early?!) or whether I need to just be patient and relax about it?
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын
Anytime! You know, this is a common question and when you’re looking for patterns and to figure out what’s happening, it can seem like you have a new circadian rhythm where you naturally wake up 4 am. But really, this isn’t the case. It’s just that you’ve taken note of 4 am and this creates a Swiss awakening pattern. Check episode 365 for more on these. If you set an alarm for 6 am and not check the time after 10:30 or 11, and then have something nice prepared for when awake at night... this is a gentle and nice way!
@gillianalexander3949
@gillianalexander3949 3 жыл бұрын
@@thesleepcoachschool8192 Thank you so much, that is great!
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын
Anytime!!
@LotteLattes
@LotteLattes 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. I am suffering greatly from insomnia and really want to try your methods however i dont fully trust they will work especially since you seem to disregard all the physical and mental health issues associated with insomnia. I barely sleep every night and i have many symptoms Because of it. Whether it be memory, body feeling weird, being off balance, extreme eye issues, i dont know if all my symptoms are insomnia related or not but i really have tried everything and you seem to be my last hope i might have health related insomnia so im really not sure if your methods will help.
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Alex, Thanks much for being here and, it’s very normal to be skeptical. I think most people who find my teaching are quite skeptical, often because everything you’ve done has either not helped or left you even more frustrated and confused... just maybe take some time and tune in and see if this if for you. Hang in there 👍
@valerie963
@valerie963 Жыл бұрын
@lumiraven_4333 how have you been since this posting? Did you give things a try and stick with them?
@RafiurRahman420
@RafiurRahman420 Жыл бұрын
I am from Bangladesh. Can you suggest me book that will cure my insomnia. Lot of vedio don't know what to apply
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 Жыл бұрын
You know, the way we see it is that there’s no cure because there’s no disease. Rather, insomnia is the result of a misunderstanding (our brain thinking being awake is a threat) and education really helps. The effortless sleep method, Bedtime stories for insomniacs, I like them much. Oh and The sleep book by Guy Meadows. Also my books!
@danielleweeks1947
@danielleweeks1947 Жыл бұрын
Am I hearing that I can be in my bed to read/ watch tv etc? And I don't have to get out of my bed after 20 mins (if I haven't fallen asleep)? These practices feel stressful to me... but it seems every other sleep coach says to do this!!
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 Жыл бұрын
Danielle, thanks for the comment here. It’s been selected for Mining the comments 😊 Which means I’ll reply at length today in a video. Let me know if the reply makes sense!
@danielleweeks1947
@danielleweeks1947 Жыл бұрын
@@thesleepcoachschool8192 Yay!! thank you so much!!!
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 Жыл бұрын
Anytime!!
@samarpartap5139
@samarpartap5139 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Daniel, I have this question if someone have on and off insonomia for for years that means it's not sfi.this time I can only sleep 2 hours and I am very tired but still can't sleep maybe anxiety but not sure.
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын
You know, that’s my understanding, it’s progressive, not back and forth!
@samarpartap5139
@samarpartap5139 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Daniel, I know I worry about insonomia alot in daytime earlier when I have insonomia I used to distract my mind and fall asleep but now I am worried what if I can't sleep even if I don't care of sleep
@samarpartap5139
@samarpartap5139 3 жыл бұрын
I know I worry about it and I have not taken any sleeping pill till now but now my insonomia is severe I try to sleep and think of Nothing still can't sleep earler I used to distract myself from thinking something else but now I just can't but I don't have any symptoms of sfi except insonomia I fell fine even after 1 hour sleep I don't worry much about sfi still can't sleep afraid now
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын
Anytime Samar. You know, the brain is always trying to keep us safe by presenting potential problems, things it wants us to be safe from. When we try to problem solve or figure out how to convince it that there’s not problem, then there’s some more struggle. But when we simply take not of the warnings, and allow the thoughts to be, looking at them from the outside, then the struggle fades.
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Samar! It can often seem odd that you don’t sleep even though you’re not anxious. Of course it does because if anxiety was the reason you had trouble sleeping, then when it fades you should sleep right? Here’s the thing, anything that makes us hyperaroused can keep sleep from happening. Imagine a kid before Christmas for example. They’re excited, not anxious. You know what else can create hyperarousal? Curiousity! Or puzzlement, being bewildered. So when you’re thinking “I’m not anxious so why am I not sleeping?” the answer is right there. It’s now the curiosity that’s keeping you awake! A natural next question becomes, so how do I become less curious? Guess what, you probably already have. Because when you understand something, there’s no mystery and less for the brain to figure out. But the best of all is that you’re less anxious. That may not seem like a big step right now because you slept little, but it is. As the anxiety fades and you’re no longer puzzled, sleep will come to you!
@coffeechocolate7364
@coffeechocolate7364 3 жыл бұрын
😘👊🏼
@ohyingzi3821
@ohyingzi3821 2 жыл бұрын
How do u marry "I don't care about sleep" versus implementing CBTI techniques like sleep restriction and stimulus control that obviously requires a lot of commitment and practice ? They seem like two paradoxical concepts
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!! That’s a big reason I no longer believe CBTi is that helpful for most of us. I call the the problems with CBTi collectively “implied controllability” - sleep restriction and stimulus control imply that we can control sleep by practice and commitment, which so often leads to more struggle. Now, lots of people say “I slept fine when I started to not care about sleep” - which I think isn’t exactly true. To me it’s a question of want vs desire. All humans want to sleep well, this is entirely normal! We never hear someone say they don’t want to sleep well. So not wanting to sleep well isn’t a goal by any means! Now, here’s the thing though, there’s a difference between wanting something and having a Desire for something. When we Desire something, when we crave it, hope for it, beg for it, then there’s a lot of attachment and pressure. And we probably won’t have that which we Desire. Now if we want something on the other hand, there’s not much attachment. We want something, but if don’t get it that time, that’s ok. No pressure.
@charliegardiner5347
@charliegardiner5347 Жыл бұрын
Hey Daniel I’m u sure what to do with my sleep window I’m only 18 and live at home this is because my bedroom is downstairs and I would like to get up at 7:30 everyday for college but everyone upstairs wakes me up at around 6am when they get up, also I have football training twice a week which finishes at 10 which I rarely sleep well when training too close to bed as I feel really hot and sweaty in bed and also want to have a social life in the weekends which makes it even harder to stick to going to waking up at 7:30 everyday with this sleep window Please could you respond with what you think I should do Thank you Charlie
@thesleepcoachschool8192
@thesleepcoachschool8192 Жыл бұрын
Hi Charlie, all the answers are here in the videos, spend a little time learning that can help so much
@angelibrant9348
@angelibrant9348 2 жыл бұрын
Video without subtitles and translation. What a pity!
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