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The New BMW M2 is the most powerful M2 ever, making 453HP and 406 lb/ft from its M4-based engine. It's also the biggest, heaviest, and in our opinion, strangest looking M2 ever as well. At what point are the performance, the luxury, and the features enough to justify buying a car that people squint at everywhere you go? Zack and Matt explore.
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@mxorosz
@mxorosz Жыл бұрын
Even though the ROI in terms of viewership may not be there, I thoroughly enjoy this style of TST videos. Excellent work Matt and Zack.
@jacebeleren429
@jacebeleren429 Жыл бұрын
It can lead to growth hopefully
@honzarox
@honzarox Жыл бұрын
The ROI is there
@jacebeleren429
@jacebeleren429 Жыл бұрын
Shout out to the TST folks that have been supportive through thick and thin. Haters get left on read.
@vulcanus9384
@vulcanus9384 Жыл бұрын
Facts i really think they can benefit of the core fans with youtube's membership system. and add discord benefits etc.
@wrxpilot
@wrxpilot Жыл бұрын
Agreed. This is excellent motor journalism, so refreshing in this era of ADHD tiktok laziness.
@MattLT4
@MattLT4 Жыл бұрын
"But like a mule heading to Ibiza, most of the weight comes from what they put inside the body." Well done Zack.
@brendandrives
@brendandrives Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@pole-star2118
@pole-star2118 Жыл бұрын
Ya.. when he said that I clapped 😄 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@jayr124589
@jayr124589 Жыл бұрын
My man Zach with the bars 😎
@AliKhan-jo9dj
@AliKhan-jo9dj Жыл бұрын
Came straight to the comments after hearing that 🤣
@dompdgaf
@dompdgaf Жыл бұрын
Didn’t sound forced at all 🤮
@joetacchino4470
@joetacchino4470 Жыл бұрын
Love the extra editorial polish guys. Nice work. Watching to the end "for the numbers" so that your effort pays off!
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 Жыл бұрын
"Polish guys" :)
@Dou6.2
@Dou6.2 Жыл бұрын
Yeah 🇵🇱!!!
@joetacchino4470
@joetacchino4470 Жыл бұрын
@@jareknowak8712 😂😂👍🏻🇵🇱
@10RRASK
@10RRASK Жыл бұрын
Matt Farahski and Zack Klapmanski
@darkblueturbo
@darkblueturbo Жыл бұрын
I prefer the one take format. But I did like “like a mule headed to Ibiza…” 😂
@Petrospect
@Petrospect Жыл бұрын
The timing and buildup of "if it's gonna be ugly, it better be fast" and the delivery of "that'll make a little easier and more convenient getting your ticket on your way to work" Man, you just get what it takes to assemble a great vid like a masterchef. That's what TG had for me and keeps pleasing me everytime I re-watch it. Really appreciating the extra effort, it really shows! I'd add to the conclusion that yeah you sit in it and don't have to see it...but everyone else does. Now the new M2 doesn't have the rear seat capability it used to have and is challenging to look at. Why not buy a Supra manual is my question and save 10k or 10k more and get a M3 and have a good looking car from most angles
@pushslice
@pushslice Жыл бұрын
The Supra MT is looking better and better by the day. But yes, huge second on the overall show production!
@Lurkindork
@Lurkindork Жыл бұрын
I don’t remember where but i read that the a90 supra will one day come with an s58 before the z4 platform dies. Correct me if im wrong.
@Petrospect
@Petrospect Жыл бұрын
@@Lurkindork I have not read that but if anybody can shed a light on that, I'd love to know aswell! BMW has denied making a Z4M because they say the numbers don't add up so if Toyota picks up the mantle, that will be a heck of a car.
@botdingo
@botdingo Жыл бұрын
Idk why but I prefer the laidback feel of the old TST. This is borderline cringy sometimes, especially when theres channels like ThrottleHouse. We already have plenty of channels with fancy camerawork. But I also know the channel probably needed this change to appeal more to the masses and the channels growth lately does prove "who cares what I think"
@wesd991
@wesd991 Жыл бұрын
​@@botdingo i agree. This new format only works for non performance drivers cars like the SUVs
@DustinMaxim1015
@DustinMaxim1015 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit this channel’s production quality has gone from decent to amazing!! I’m loving the new smoking tire!
@ocavant
@ocavant Жыл бұрын
Now they just need a few good dedicated shooters who know what they are doing and know how to light. The lack of in car lighting (BTW guys…shoot early morning or late day for less harsh sun issues) really shows they are not there yet. Study the Carfection channel for tips. Superb shooting and lighting as well as story narrative over there. Henry Catchpool and his team are on point. Now with the backing of motor trend. I give this a solid B production value wise.
@WAYTOOCOMPLICATED
@WAYTOOCOMPLICATED Жыл бұрын
I like the switch up in format you two have implemented recently in your videos, feels like a real bump in quality. Voice over, editing, I’m really enjoying them even more. I hope the considerable efforts it takes pays off in more views 👍👍
@user-wq7ct4yu7k
@user-wq7ct4yu7k Жыл бұрын
Always appreciated the high quality insights and now production quality to match. Great work!
@ThomasHarrisonLord
@ThomasHarrisonLord Жыл бұрын
Your best review yet - loving this new, more editorialised, style. Please keep it up and thank you!
@hairychesticles1
@hairychesticles1 Жыл бұрын
The rims being cast instead of forged is kinda bad when you consider how expensive it is and how cast rims tend to be heavier. Last gen m2 had nicer forged rims
@peterhammer6915
@peterhammer6915 Жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. I really dont understand why the wheels are not forged. Cast wheels in this price class is a bummer.
@hairychesticles1
@hairychesticles1 Жыл бұрын
@@peterhammer6915 yea cars half the price come with forged rims. Cast rims are weaker and more heavy. I cant think of a good reason why other than to be cheap
@TomK-ti8kp
@TomK-ti8kp 6 ай бұрын
Isn’t it also to pass IIHS small overlap crash testing? The forged wheel would be driven into the driver’s footwell, whereas a cast wheel will break apart before intruding into the cabin
@frankb7449
@frankb7449 Жыл бұрын
Agree the styling of the M2 kills it for me. Reminds me of when BMW redesigned the 5 series in early 2000's and that was it for me - sold my 1998 540i and moved on rather than trade in for the newest 540... I miss the pre- 2000 days of BMW
@993mike
@993mike Жыл бұрын
The previous M2 and M5 were the last attractive BMW’s to me. I’m a lifelong BMW M buyer, and now I can sadly say there is not one current BMW I like the looks of except maybe they M8, but I’m sure that will be hit with the corporate ugly stick with the next redesign.
@nyalsewell
@nyalsewell Жыл бұрын
Damn these narrated videos are choice. Excellent work Zack and Matt!
@Dansotherutubeacount
@Dansotherutubeacount Жыл бұрын
You guys have completely reeled me back in with this new video style. It reminds me of the OG TST videos and why I fell in love with the channel.
@sergiopereira9546
@sergiopereira9546 Жыл бұрын
its defenetly weird looking but suprisingly the thing i hate the most is the dashboard , i really hate this new trend of splapping 2 tablets in front of you and calling it a dashboard , looks so basic and cheap . This color hides the ugly lines a little bit by not being a light metallic color at least on camera and that helps it a bit . Nice video production , hope its working for you guys!
@ericmarentette
@ericmarentette Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I'm in the market for a new car and I absolutely despise the dual screen garbage.
@ARCNA442
@ARCNA442 Жыл бұрын
BMW is definitely one of the worst offenders when it comes to putting screens in cars. I understand that screens are the future, but you'd think that in an almost six-figure luxury car they could spend a little effort integrating them into the design. Honestly, the new GM trucks look far more upscale with how they integrated their screens.
@mattwasilewicz9677
@mattwasilewicz9677 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, looks like trash and you will be looking at it ALL the time. It just looks cheap and like they couldn't be bothered to design a nice dash. You can still have screens and make it look good, the last gen Mercedes S Class Coupe is a good example of that.
@m3giorgi
@m3giorgi Жыл бұрын
I'll keep my E92 M3
@grad0n
@grad0n Жыл бұрын
👍🏽
@3rayallen
@3rayallen Жыл бұрын
No one cares about your 15 year old M3 lmao. Have fun with VANOS and rod bearing failures
@basithph8958
@basithph8958 Жыл бұрын
I'll be honest here I really like the M2 and it's grown on me immensely however as good of a car it is it just feels like it's a step forward and backwards from the predecessor it's a bit of a hit and a miss in some aspects Still the new M2 is definitely one of the best cars you can get in today's market amazing value too it shows that BMW still knows how to make good cars and the M2 lives up to its name it's just so conflicting that the new M2 is really good for what it is then you look at the last gen especially the Comp and CS and you start to miss that kind of elegance and simplicity BMWs once had
@Vince1986
@Vince1986 Жыл бұрын
Love the "newer" style of videos so much, as it seems more like a bourdainesque skript that you are performing - enhanced by great video material! cheers tst crew edit: and Zack's punchline "grabs you like parent's grab a five year old"...that's simply great and reminds me an awful lot of his infamous punchline "the honda's power is manageable - like a hamster is manageable"...rofl
@1VIPWRX
@1VIPWRX Жыл бұрын
That front ends tho🫣
@iharr01563
@iharr01563 Жыл бұрын
This format is absolutely just killer. This style is just incredible
@OneWayToMachines
@OneWayToMachines Жыл бұрын
A really cool video would be if you guys could get a 1M from 2011 and both drive it back to back with a manual version of the new M2
@WilliamStewart1
@WilliamStewart1 Жыл бұрын
1M was a truly good little car, hit all the checkmarks of what a small M car should be. Unfortunately, kids don't seem to care much for character, just the numbers, the gadgets, and the clout.
@yeasonyea1
@yeasonyea1 Жыл бұрын
The new viewers here might view this as every other m2 video. The veterans appreciate the extra polish and intros. Can’t wait for the next review
@Hugo_WP
@Hugo_WP Жыл бұрын
They really messed up the exterior design, even the beautiful mirrors got destroyed after so many years 😢
@gordonnorris4202
@gordonnorris4202 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the design..I don't see a problem with it.
@franciscolobato3184
@franciscolobato3184 Ай бұрын
Same here
@DoctorSkillz
@DoctorSkillz Жыл бұрын
I'm on my third 2 Series coupe and I would consider myself the target demographic of this vehicle. My only complaint about the latest 2 Series is that my son feels like the back seats are a little tight. That was never the case in the previous gen. Fortunately, I have the 2022, with the physical buttons. I had a loaner 2023 with the touchscreen and it was an awful experience. The latest gen has all of the safety features (e.g., blind spot monitoring, 360 camera) I want along with comfort features. It's the perfect Friday to Sunday car for me. I get that many people don't like the new M2 design, but I like it. It's interesting and memorable. And for under $70K, I get everything I want? I think it's a lot of car for the money.
@hellobooom
@hellobooom Жыл бұрын
The Pontiac Aztec is definitely interesting and memorable too.
@Veyronp87
@Veyronp87 Жыл бұрын
yep, people are being really whiny with this car...this car is 95% of a m4 for $20k less? sounds amazing if you ask me
@AUav8r05
@AUav8r05 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your newer video format. The added music, and B roll really add to the already great commentary. I’m glad to see the reviews getting more cinematic without coming off as a top gear clone. Great work!
@miketeeveedub5779
@miketeeveedub5779 Жыл бұрын
Front end reminds me of my Hoover upright vacuum and 3800lbs. It may be an M2 in name but certainly not in spirit.
@AM-uk7jv
@AM-uk7jv Жыл бұрын
I'll keep my CT4V Blackwing deposit. I was waiting for the M2 reviews to see if I'd want to place a deposit on one, but after watching and reading a few, the new M2 just isn't it. Plus I HAAAATTTEEE that hideous dash/infotainment system. You can really tell that GM went with a no-nonsense engineering approach with the 4BW. No gimmicks. No stupid drift mode. 18 inch wheels. Just an all business, well engineered and designed sport sedan that is truly track ready. While I feel that BMW just seems to be made with design first, then engineering approach. But BMW still failed at it. Maybe BMW will listen to its fans and update it for the next model year. The looks of the M2 has actually grown on me, but I hate that god-awful interior and gimmickry. Leave that crap to the non-M models. M models should be all business.
@John.Christopher
@John.Christopher Жыл бұрын
Don't even think about the M2 bro. Ct4 Blackwing has better handling, steering feel, better shifter, def a lot more fun to drive.
@AM-uk7jv
@AM-uk7jv Жыл бұрын
@@John.Christopher Yea, reviews of the M2 have cemented my decision to just stick with the Blackwing.
@John.Christopher
@John.Christopher Жыл бұрын
@@AM-uk7jv hopefully I can grab one when I have the cash before it goes out of production 😆 How long is the wait for you allocation?
@AM-uk7jv
@AM-uk7jv Жыл бұрын
@@John.Christopher I put in a deposit on December 31st, 2022 and still waiting. But I am first on the list for the next allocation, whenever that may be. Hopefully soon.
@John.Christopher
@John.Christopher Жыл бұрын
@@AM-uk7jv wonderful. Hope you thoroughly enjoy it
@Skooby59
@Skooby59 Жыл бұрын
Small thing, but the editing from matt on the outside in the beginning to zack in the car felt kinda like og top gear. Wicked cool
@adrianal-khalidi1560
@adrianal-khalidi1560 Жыл бұрын
I just don’t understand the point of the M2 anymore. Weighs the same as an M4, with a little less power and useless back seats. Just don’t see the value with it
@abayamangali
@abayamangali Жыл бұрын
Yeah i think people are better off with a Cayman or an Emira. If practicality matters, I would get an RS3. I have no issues with this car, I actually like the design. The problem is the weight, its a bit heavy for a small sports car.
@pascutia
@pascutia Жыл бұрын
M2 is cheaper and the exterior dimensions are smaller. The M4 is hugeeee. Even compared to the M3 it’s massive. Not 100% sure, but I believe the backseat dimensions are very similar between the M2 and M4 even though the M4 is significantly larger. Edit: Also cost. M2 is cheaper.
@mala6238
@mala6238 Жыл бұрын
Really doesn't make any sense. Plus, it isn't that "compact" either. Not even mentioning that very "special" design...
@StrollingOnMoon
@StrollingOnMoon Жыл бұрын
For what it's worth the M4 and M2 weighed the same last generation too.
@adrianal-khalidi1560
@adrianal-khalidi1560 Жыл бұрын
@@pascutia M4 is a boat, but the M2 isn’t far behind. Cost is a factor but with the M240i coming with available AWD and pretty insane performance from the B58, if I want an automatic transmission sport coupe from BMW, is the M2 that big of an upgrade over the M240i? It just seems that BMW has put the M2 in a weird spot
@fajitas4every1
@fajitas4every1 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the extra work that went into this video, but honestly I love the Two Takes model. It feels so organic compared to so many other review channels. I'm happy to watch what you put out regardless!
@juanbugatti490
@juanbugatti490 Жыл бұрын
It looks awkward, but imho it’s way less ugly than the M4. I guess that doesn’t particularly sounds like a compliment, but it kind of is 😂 Awesome video guys 👍🏼
@stevec9704
@stevec9704 Жыл бұрын
I consider myself a BMW purist, and as much as I loved the prior M2 and 1M before it, I actually think BMW did a great job with the looks of this car. I DO NOT like the new driver screen in ANY new models BMW, to me this is a drastic miss, so much, I purchased an older model to keep the analog we are accustomed to. If BMW can remedy this by building a dash board to integrate the screen and give owners the ability to run analog displays, I’d be all in on their new design. I like the new M2, but as a brand, until they fix my biggest gripe, I’ll keep buying the previous models when I want a new BMW. Great video Matt & Zach.
@FreshlySnipes
@FreshlySnipes 6 ай бұрын
That S58 engine is an absolute savage. I have it in my M3, I can’t imagine that engine in a smaller car like the M2… the S58 will push 600hp + with just a tune. Insane.
@FreshlySnipes
@FreshlySnipes Жыл бұрын
The S58 is such an amazing engine. It is in the M2 & M3 and puts out anywhere from 450 - 800+ HP.
@TCrimson05t
@TCrimson05t Жыл бұрын
If I don't like the way it looks I am not going to spend money on it. BMW needs to get through whatever design phase they're going through as quickly as possible. Also how did they end up making the back seat useless?
@zackklapman3569
@zackklapman3569 Жыл бұрын
I would t say it’s useless. I’m 5’10” and had to tilt my head to sit back there. If you were 5’7” or under it would be fine.
@HaloDude557
@HaloDude557 Жыл бұрын
I’m 6’0 and can sit behind myself just fine. Only complaint is headroom. You can’t sit up straight and will have to sit back. Definitely can’t get a sunroof
@ATron35
@ATron35 Жыл бұрын
The intro reminded me of the old TUNED videos on THE DRIVE channel!
@Prodriver33
@Prodriver33 Жыл бұрын
Back to putting more into your videos that you get out? Or you just can’t help but make the best? Amazing video guys!
@hardykornfeld1733
@hardykornfeld1733 Жыл бұрын
BMW forgot to add lightness to the new M2. Its curb weight is only 33 pounds less than my Audi S4 (B9) and it's 176 pounds more than an Audi RS3. Since Audi dealers will likely continue putting absurd markups on the RS3, my next car might be a BMW. I would have considered the M2 as my retirement toy, but the more I learn about the new M2, the more interested I am in the M3. The M3 Comp xDrive weighs 176 pounds more than the M2 (curious symmetry there) but the AWD, extra performance, and usable back seats are more than enough to offset and justify the weight difference.
@SavageTriple7
@SavageTriple7 Жыл бұрын
Love this new style of videos from you guys, hopefully it pays off in the long run!
@vandecar15
@vandecar15 Жыл бұрын
Yooo long time viewer since garage 419. I love the return to form-ish style. Remember that vid years ago when you took that Volvo polestar wagon on a road trip? Wouldn’t hate those style vids either. Well done lads! Come one take my 240 if you’re ever in New Hampshire
@timfung9535
@timfung9535 Жыл бұрын
Finally found a car review in KZfaq use the word ugly in the title for describing new M2 and didn’t afraid BMW will blacklist you. Thanks a lot.
@PHFilms3
@PHFilms3 Жыл бұрын
I’ll stick to my e92 thanks
@jm56481
@jm56481 Жыл бұрын
I'm in the market for something in this price range but I could not walk out to this thing everyday no matter how lovely it is. Perhaps I'll just stick with my Raptor until I can get a 718 Spyder.
@chuckclark6162
@chuckclark6162 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the a tagline for A10 Warthogs…”Ugly but well hung”.
@danielmolina1616
@danielmolina1616 Жыл бұрын
have not watched tst in a while (even tho i do watch the podcast) and i can tell the changes yall have implemented are honestly great, will be watching everything now fr love it
@yodismet
@yodismet Жыл бұрын
Great video. Such a shame as I adore my F87. Looks like I'll be hanging onto mine for a very, very long time.
@Tonyk24
@Tonyk24 Жыл бұрын
I’m the only person on earth that’s in love with the new m2 lol wish you guys got to review the 6MT version
@FastTeam11
@FastTeam11 Жыл бұрын
Yea you probably are
@Supernova09949
@Supernova09949 Жыл бұрын
I love everything about the visual of this car except the oddly squared-off grilles. Otherwise, this car is a hit, AND WHAT A REAR.
@jacebeleren429
@jacebeleren429 Жыл бұрын
You ever drive the old one?
@HaloDude557
@HaloDude557 Жыл бұрын
@@Supernova09949 eBay bolt on body kit
@Supernova09949
@Supernova09949 Жыл бұрын
@@HaloDude557 I didn’t say my taste was good
@americanAlienBoy
@americanAlienBoy Жыл бұрын
Unless BMW has changed it radically since the last generation M2, I don’t know why anyone would voluntarily choose the Sport+ throttle mapping. It doesn’t give you any extra power, it just means you get 2/3 of the output in the first 1/4 of pedal travel. Yeah, it makes it feel faster taking off, but trying to balance the car mid-corner becomes an exercise in frustration. I think the fact that in the 1st gen, turning off all the stability nannies automagically the throttle in Sport, not Sport+, tells you all you need to know about what the engineers and test drivers thought was the best one for driving fast.
@racingclips6376
@racingclips6376 Жыл бұрын
“Fortunately, it is fast” Proceeds to pull away incredibly slowly. 😂
@zackklapman3569
@zackklapman3569 Жыл бұрын
I know. The road was 37 degrees and damp. Traction control :)
@Iwo26
@Iwo26 Жыл бұрын
I actually really like the exterior design. It finally has something from the E36/E34/E46 which is the direction BMW should follow.
@guntherschmitt2229
@guntherschmitt2229 Жыл бұрын
Really? You're kidding, right?
@JacesOwnWorld
@JacesOwnWorld Жыл бұрын
Not really. The front bumper only, but everything else is far from the E36/46
@BPoweredLove
@BPoweredLove Жыл бұрын
7:35 Imagine how much of a failure a driver would have to be to repeatedly get a speeding ticket at the same location so often. That's like Bart Simpson touching the hot stove burner over and over saying "ouch" each time, never learning.
@stallion427
@stallion427 Жыл бұрын
Liked the old style, just driving and talking about the car, it felt more organic and it's what diversified your channel from others. Also gave a better feel for the driving experience. Polished and production and dialogue just for entertainment sake I guess is the way things are going.
@tylerstafford
@tylerstafford Жыл бұрын
maybe it’s just been awhile since I’ve been here, but the combo of Matt and Zack is fantastic. one takes are great.. but this is better. well done!
@Beezy_Builds
@Beezy_Builds Жыл бұрын
Loving the new old style of vids!
@SeanMckeeverSwing
@SeanMckeeverSwing Жыл бұрын
Really liking the new format and production quality guys!
@bigrokadventures
@bigrokadventures Жыл бұрын
Great video, BWM M cars always had some of the best analogue dials that gave you everything you needed, I hate all this digital dash stuff, and it really doesnt age well. Do we really need cars this big and heavy!!
@rafspitfire
@rafspitfire Жыл бұрын
You guys did ton of work for this video and it shows, great job and I hope your busy schedules allows you to do more of these in the future!
@HFrizzler
@HFrizzler 6 ай бұрын
You can reposition all the apps on the screen.
@danielgladston118
@danielgladston118 Жыл бұрын
Nice vid! It's great that it drives well, but as my daily, I'm still choosing a G80 M3. I could have it with a manual and an added bonus is that a used '21 or '22 has iDrive 7 so you don't have to deal with the buttonless new system. I also think it looks a ton better than this new M2, plus it rides nicer and has enough practicality to do whatever you need it to. Yes, it's gotten bigger, but it barely weighs more than the M2 and that's wild considering we're talking about a small-ish coupe. Having owned an F87, I'm sure it's a blast to drive, but I'm with Zack. I just can't get over its wacky looks.
@fifteen8850
@fifteen8850 Жыл бұрын
Idk man, it looks normal compared to the g80/82 cars with that oversized grille
@whiteguysayswha
@whiteguysayswha Жыл бұрын
Love the extra production looks great guys!
@DDMSteveB
@DDMSteveB Жыл бұрын
I like the video, well done. I’m having a hard time imagining an E92 M3 being able to fit within the footprint of this thing. Man the 2 series is huge.
@isaahland4229
@isaahland4229 Жыл бұрын
The background music at the 2:40 and 6:40 marks are absolutely excellent
@SomOza22
@SomOza22 Жыл бұрын
I love this new format!!! I get it's a lot more work to edit but it's really worth it!!
@agreatd
@agreatd Жыл бұрын
LMAO, love the design hate, carwow was the only one who was afraid to tell the truth, according to throttle house, they had warnings from bmw not to criticize design, so here you have it, SmokingTire not giving a damn and staying genuine
@TheSmokingTire
@TheSmokingTire Жыл бұрын
They didn't invite us to the launch so we never received that bit of, uh, guidance.
@StrollingOnMoon
@StrollingOnMoon Жыл бұрын
Some people do like the design, (I for one love it) it isn't always a matter of "telling the truth", subjective matters are just that, subjective.
@mala6238
@mala6238 Жыл бұрын
​@@StrollingOnMoon nobody cares
@motonvipr
@motonvipr Жыл бұрын
@@mala6238 Exactly, I love all the ppl saying it looks great or love the looks. Yea, show me how much you like it, are you going to buy it? Hell nah. These are the same people crying about wagons but never buy em. LOL
@antikytheramechanism7909
@antikytheramechanism7909 8 ай бұрын
@@StrollingOnMoon Some people sing off key and can't hear why, they actually think they are singing on key. It is the same people who like bad designs and you can't fix it by teaching. It is brain software.
@jeffmcconnell6214
@jeffmcconnell6214 Жыл бұрын
I like the blue, but I wonder if black would be a better color to disguise some of the cosmetic.....issues.
@emiliodevoti1143
@emiliodevoti1143 Жыл бұрын
I personally like how it looks. Kudos to the last videos. The two car format with ev and hybrid was better than the first video done like that. This last one has a better rhythm going back to back in between you two.
@doggedlydetermined7022
@doggedlydetermined7022 Жыл бұрын
Not nearly as ugly as people are making it out to be. We likely haven’t seen it in person yet, how can we say?
@TheSmokingTire
@TheSmokingTire Жыл бұрын
We've seen it in person! It's definitely worse than in photos.
@doggedlydetermined7022
@doggedlydetermined7022 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSmokingTireyes, but I’m sure the majority of folks hating on the design haven’t actually seen one in person. Hard to accurately assess until then imo
@zigmoto360
@zigmoto360 Ай бұрын
I have to agree. I was hating it in photos and then I test drove a black one and thought it looked pretty good. Maybe the fact it was black hid all the awkwardness.
@jtthebrick3
@jtthebrick3 Жыл бұрын
These new vids are excellent you guys!!!
@nevenselimovic6741
@nevenselimovic6741 Жыл бұрын
Great writing and descriptions. The format and editing is awesome!
@sashnaumoski7479
@sashnaumoski7479 Жыл бұрын
As an m2 comp owner i love that it has manual handbrake and an analogue dash. It's a keeper for me. I do love the new m2 and contrary to other overwhelming opinions i think it looks pretty good. Amazing car.
@chrisginoc
@chrisginoc 9 ай бұрын
Keep that M2 Comp longe term. They will never make them like that again.
@markeywestskies6503
@markeywestskies6503 Жыл бұрын
I love the long hood short deck profile ...and the pronounced squarish wheel fenders hearkens back to the original M3. Overall I really like the blend of classic yet quirky 2 door coupe styling ...I'd say it's interesting rather than weird or ugly which I prefer vs anodyne or generic.
@gky3019
@gky3019 Жыл бұрын
Thing is completely heinous, you must be joking. Remember what the previous gen looked like?
@TheShogun92
@TheShogun92 Жыл бұрын
I agree. I honestly quite like the look of this M2. Not necessarily more than the last gen. Just in a different way. There are things I would take from both cars and meld together to make my perfect M2
@Sabretooth-Biggavel
@Sabretooth-Biggavel Жыл бұрын
Hey Marley I think you overdosed on copium
@chrisplummer9639
@chrisplummer9639 Ай бұрын
I have been part of a few Zoom(well teams) meetings in my m2 😂
@VG22.
@VG22. Жыл бұрын
Best video by thesmokingtire. Great Job zack and matt.
@angusbeef4252
@angusbeef4252 Жыл бұрын
Good points about styling. A lot of styles deemed ugly initially are now classics. I kind of like the more angular look of the m2. Reminds me of 80s/90s.
@rlsedition
@rlsedition Жыл бұрын
This M2 will never be a "classic" design. Ugly doesn't change.
@spaceoner1
@spaceoner1 Жыл бұрын
Funny I was thinking the same; exterior design reminds me of '80s styling and not in a bad way
@rlsedition
@rlsedition Жыл бұрын
@@spaceoner1 I'd reject the new M2 on two counts: Terrible exterior styling and too much weight. Nice motor though.
@stevenh766
@stevenh766 Жыл бұрын
Solidifies M2 CS as the car to have.
@kckc4258
@kckc4258 4 ай бұрын
My 2024 M2 g87 is parked in my garage and I look at it once in the morning and once at night before I go to bed.
@BarbWaltersMusic
@BarbWaltersMusic Жыл бұрын
Have you driven the manual? It got destroyed by Throttle House yesterday
@StrollingOnMoon
@StrollingOnMoon Жыл бұрын
Personally I love the design, but to each their own. Curious to see the driving impressions.
@ctk4949
@ctk4949 Жыл бұрын
Its DISGUSTING!! I just dont understand bmw styling?!?! They use to be so nice and clean, but lately!! Its like they are trying to prove bmw fanbois will buy ANYTHING!!!!
@John.Christopher
@John.Christopher Жыл бұрын
Thankfully, it looks better than the M4 😬
@ctk4949
@ctk4949 Жыл бұрын
@@John.Christopher Like how hard would that be to do?!?! LOL!!
@andrewattiasam
@andrewattiasam Жыл бұрын
"Like a mule headed to Ibiza, most of the weight comes from what they put INSIDE the body." 😂 Gold.
@gustavofigueiredo1798
@gustavofigueiredo1798 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit! When you showed the front end @1:06, that thing looks like a render of a generic version of a BMW from a late '90s video game.
@andrewhurstcars
@andrewhurstcars Жыл бұрын
Nice video, but still prefer the old one take with Matt & the notepad 📝😂
@sethsimpson8086
@sethsimpson8086 Жыл бұрын
Hilarious video title. Zack that Ibiza joke had me rolling. I think yall either got really lucky having the auto or chose correctly. Several other reviewers that had manuals seemed to like that it came with a manual but seemed less than impressed with it after a drive. The guys over at throttle house even suggested that if you buy one, buy the auto, cause it's that much better. In their opinion. The kinda people that own a previous M2 in stick and are waiting for a lotus with a stick suggested the auto. That signals it makes a huge difference. If the opportunity arises you all should get a stick version and see if it's still out runs it's face with two less gears that have been stretched to cover the same distance. Killer work guys!
@bimmerfan729
@bimmerfan729 Жыл бұрын
F87 prices shooting through the roof as we speak
@jrey800
@jrey800 4 ай бұрын
Not gonna lie, I laughed pretty hard when you cut to "weird, looks weird". The styling has grown on me admittedly, but I can't deny that I still agree with you.
@simonheywood1286
@simonheywood1286 Жыл бұрын
What was BMW thinking!lol🤣
@illsuspect
@illsuspect 10 ай бұрын
Just rented one of these on Turo, same color, 6spd manual trans, and man does it cook! Power everywhere, my wife loved the interior styling. Got to drive some of the same hills and roads matt drives. Really a great car, and everywhere I went dudes were breaking their necks and giving me thumbs up. Not a fan of the looks but i think i could get over it.
@michaelpinnow5015
@michaelpinnow5015 5 ай бұрын
Excellent review. Having owned a 2024 M2 manual for a few months now I can concur with just about everything you have said. It is an amazing car and compares well against any sports car at any price point. Engineering excellence!! A total bargain when price is considered.
@RumbleKar
@RumbleKar Жыл бұрын
The writing and directing of this is so fucking great. That cut in the beginning where you say "It looks....(cut) weird) was amazing
@brendandrives
@brendandrives Жыл бұрын
If the car weighed 800lbs less it would make sense. But it’s just so hefty. It’s an M4
@gsprings43
@gsprings43 Жыл бұрын
the bottom half of that front end is what kills it,,,those intakes,the shape and how they protrude out
@zackklapman3569
@zackklapman3569 Жыл бұрын
Agree. The intakes on the M240i looked cool.
@ricric9521
@ricric9521 Жыл бұрын
The lower part of the front end looks like the lower part of an industrial refrigerator.
@MegaRetr
@MegaRetr Жыл бұрын
Love the extra production looks great guys
@dcraig814
@dcraig814 Жыл бұрын
Great review gents. Production quality is fantastic! I’m one of the few that loves the lines of the M2. I will wait to see one in person before making any sudden moves but feeling the itch to upgrade from my MK7.5 Golf R.
@whatdoesnt
@whatdoesnt Жыл бұрын
Can we just take a minute to appreciate how awesome this body kit would look like on a 1990s JDM car like a Prelude.
@nbro5529
@nbro5529 6 ай бұрын
The car just looks absolutely stunning. This is the only BMW car of which I really like the style. People were just used to the previous styles. This style removes some curves I really dislike of most BMWs. I love it.
@felipe_silve
@felipe_silve Жыл бұрын
Great writing and review. I personally don't hate the styling. While the previous M2 was prettier in a traditional sense, I think the new M2 looks really aggressive, especially from the side profile with the accentuated fender flares. The fact that it is now wider and more stable also makes it more approachable for someone looking to step up from a lower power RWD car.
@felipe_silve
@felipe_silve Жыл бұрын
I will say the color options are a bit disappointing though. Was hoping for some more interesting combos like the Isle of Man green you can get on the M3
@michaelrohr9773
@michaelrohr9773 Жыл бұрын
Hahah, that "Looks weird" cut was great
@DenisKudlik
@DenisKudlik Жыл бұрын
maybe the tuner companies will improve the looks of this because they can't make it worse
@josephcitizen4195
@josephcitizen4195 Жыл бұрын
I bought a '22 230 last year mainly because of this and another YT channels reviews. I love the styling of the 230/240 and the M2 is growing on me. Those spy pics that came out a few months ago had me gagging but seeing it now, I don't think it's ugly at all. One change that I think would help slightly though is a bezel around the kidneys. Someone on the TH vid said it looked like a Lego car.
@chanmanthegreat1429
@chanmanthegreat1429 Жыл бұрын
man you are just coping with your purchase. everyone knows its a visual abomination. I have no doubt its a good car, but my god it looks abysmal.
@soupistasty5
@soupistasty5 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the new camera work, editing style and the way the review was quickly sliced up. It was dynamic n' looked great (though some of the shots on the fisheye lens, idk about them - think I'd almost always prefer a less distorted, wide angle from a greater distance). But overall, this was fantastic. My real regret with this episode, though - the camera placement most certainly forced Matt/ Zach to be separated while doing their review, which is a pity. One of the best things about TST, are the interactions between you guys! Is it possible to find a happy medium, in future? Keeping the great camera work, the quick editing style - but have both Matt & Zach in the car, together! For those cool interactions n' laughs that make TST different from all the other review channels
@reallyfrodo
@reallyfrodo Жыл бұрын
Where is this shot? Those hills in the background are amazing.
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