I was gonna say, he looked like he was moving, which I realize is very impressive for a GoPro at that viewing angle at that mounting point, and then I realized he was cranking up a pretty significant slope. Wow. That thing moves. My anecdotes on being an APR customer: I have an APR stage 1 tune in my VW Alltrack (1.8T motor, IS12 turbo vs. IS20 for the normal 2.0 liters (GTI included) and IS38 for Golf R/S3/TTS/etc.). They claim 240/285 HP/TQ at the crank on 91 octane. The thing pulls pretty hard. Then my friend has a GTI performance pack with the APR stage 1 (300/330 I think they claim?) My god. I dared myself to keep it the throttle buried in the carpet for as long as I would in my stock 94 Miata on a stretch of a favorite driving road and achieved ludicrous speed! Mine has had no issues and feels pretty much stock, until you dig deep into that long-travel throttle pedal and pull out stupid amounts of torque. Passing is easy! My friend's been having some apparent issues with his software maybe not playing super nice with his traction control and emergency systems (he has the driver assistance package), but he's been working with APR customer service, describing the issues and providing OBDII logs, and the APR people have been fantastic. It seems they can work out the bugs with a software update, no charge. And they've been open and helpful throughout the process.

Was going to say the same thing

based well said

@@Trendyflute I've been an APR customer for 6 years now with my MKV GTI. Was Stage 2 for almost all 6 years with recently going 2+ a few months ago. I never had any issues with their tunes at first. In fact, I chose them because they were known to be more conservative powerwise and more reliable. But the newest revisions of the BPY FSI tunes that just came out this past year. Have been hit or miss imo. Granted, not many drive this platform now. Most have moved up to the newer gens. So I've basically became a testing ground. Before going 2+ after getting the update. I started having rev issues. Got a reflash that fixed it after contacting APR and then my boost was cut down considerably. Didn't get in for a reflash until getting an upgraded pump for the 2+ file. Boost was back, but they forgot to remove the speed limiter. Went back to get reflashed again after they sent my dealer a reworked tune, and now I'm dealing with a boost cut that's tied to 6k+ rev range. My car goes into a semi limp mode if I cross 6k revs and cuts boost in half until I restart the car. I have a case open with APR about it, but haven't heard anything back yet. I'm putting together a K04 kit for my GTI as we speak and am going to ask my shop to see if I can just have the older rev tune for it. I've heard the 2018/2019 K04 files are dealing with the same kinks for the BPY FSI. Or, I may finally leave APR. Don't know yet.

I'm sure he was going the posted 40 mph 😉

mk5s too. MK6 was a step back in feel.

V8s are good but turbos draw wood

IsaiahZ48 um not at all. Performance wise mk7 is top notch but they feel sorta cheap atleast compared to mk6. And mk5 is literally just dog shit. The body style the bpy motor. Just trash. I work on these cars daily and am in mk7s all day but I LOVE getting into my 14 gti at the end of the day. It just feels so much better.

@@IsaiahZ48 Yet my mk6 would walk the shit outta ur mk5 LMAO.

@@howdyimdan Unless its a 2008.5 mk5. In which case it'd be the same, if not better.

Agreed. 33 and I have a '16 R and that was exactly how I felt. It's a phenomenal daily, and just enough fun with a little JB4 tune without blowing your warranty. Once that factory warranty is up, I'm heading up to Stage 2 at least. Just a clean almost sleeper looking fun car.

Yawn...

"aero garbage"

Same here, I also 37 with a 'grown up' job. The car is similar to my business card, both things tell someone who I am, and sometimes...first impressions ARE everything. I like the other cars a lot for fun and track work, but that's about that.

But thats the whole point of a hot hatch it's quick and a little outrageous not boring beige, each to their own I suppose.

Ivan Zavarzin 😂

LMFAOOOOOOO

LazyRock if I didn't know better, I'd guess the video was sped up. He was thrashing it pretty hard the whole time, or got a new camera angle or something. The feeling of speed is pretty good in this one.

ianiva I know.

It's nice and all but all those mods your talking at least 65 k . That's GT 350R money.

Zamorazone in usa ofc, here the Mustang GT is 97k euros.

RIGHT!!! I WISH MY 03 FOCUS RAN, HANDLED & STOPPED, ANYWHERE NEAR AS GOOD AS THAT HOPPED UP GOLF DOES!!! WONDER HOW MUSH MONEY IS INVESTED INTO THAT CAR? COST OF CAR + UPGRADES???

LOL

Savageee

L Taka exactly, perfect without the springs and stickers

The stickers can go but I would replace the springs with a nice coil over setup by H&R

I’d keep the springs just not the apr ones

Elaborate?

@@Osprey1994 He owns a focus RS. just look up Focus RS head gasket.

Watch Matt drive the Orange Viper on Smoking Tire. He's out of breather at the end of the video. One of the best.

I will sell you my 1.8t golf lol

SergeantMoetz. With a quiet muffler and exhaust cut-outs. . . I'm pickin' up what you're puttin' down.

SergeantMoetz yes. My upcoming car is the Octavia vrs wagon. It's prettier (IMO) than the golf wagon, and shares the same platform and setup as the golf gti. Also its about £1500 cheaper, with more kit. If you want to save another grand or so, seat do thr Leon FR ST (wagon), that again is built on the mqb platform and set up of the gti/vrs , and come with a little more kit. All look almost identical inside. The seat drives the best btw. More forgiving but just as direct. They have done a little magic.

I know right you could pretty much do any mileage car though since they put in a new crate motor so as long as the interior/exterior is still nice you'll be set. you can get a 2015 with 70K miles for $25K so out the door you would be at $42K with a brand new crate motor and possibilities to tune for more than what they rate it at since you have a fully built motor.

Cough manual.

Stephen Butler true. My daily is a tuned, turbo, manual. Although there is a guy that lives on my street with a dsg r32 golf and hearing the dsg farts is pretty cool i gotta admit.

Id really want the new 7 speed dsg if I were gonna do this to a Golf R

MI Backyard Engineer the DSG is a box, all the pros of an auto and 90% of the fun. But when you're checking this much into a 'fun' car, you have to go manual. Autos may be ultimately outright quicker, but that's not the point of a hatchback. Especially a hot hot hot hatch.

They should turbo the 3.2 VR6 and that in the new Golf R. Fuuuuck

Yeah! R32 should make a return

Ralli2Yazh speculation it might have the 2.5 out of the RS3 and TT RS...

No, i just read in a german car magazine that Audi won`t give the 5cyl engine to VW - they wanna keep it Audi-exclusive. But they think about a 6 cyl Golf R mk8.... with 400HP

As much as I love the VR6 (owned a 2001 GTI VR6) I'd almost like to see the inline 5 instead. The inline 5 in the RS5 and TTRS is a monster.

Yeah I lowered my MK6 it was cool until it rubbed. I would love to have aftermarket suspension but stock height.

The roads where I live are horrible. I sometimes worry about scraping in my mk6 R and it’s stock height lol.

I had a lowered 335xi after that I kept my Golf R stock and love it

it's not closed.

Andy D this is correct

Cant wait to see the APR RS3 one take!

With golfs they just look better lowered

@@TheSmokingTire Kind of a shame too. I'm the third owner of a stage 3+ Mk7R a lot like this one. The first owner put KW V3 coilovers on it, but the second owner ended up taking them off to get a bit more pliability and ground clearance because he lived in New Orleans. Now they're just sitting in a box in my garage. I'd love to put them back on as I wouldn't mind the stiffness and the stock suspension is just a tad bit floaty, but they unavoidably lower the car by another half an inch, and I need the ground clearance for sketchy dirt roads.

luimarco never knew you were into cars man.

yeah Lumiarco. I wouldn't have guessed that you're into cars either.

luimarco propahhhhhh Good to see you. How is the BMW

beep

VW's have a a bit of plastic that sticks down off the bottom it rubs even if you do a mild drop.

an alignment on stock setup kills all the understeer

Beerus /Drive on KZfaq TV

What you want already exists. Go check out /DRIVE on Amazon. It has Matt, Chris Harris, Alex Roy and that Spanelli guy. There are 4 incredible seasons.

Already watch it and not really what I was meaning.

That Car Guy and the clubsport S

X V they do, but honestly most people use 1 setting 99% of the time, so having the adjustable dampers is kinda pointless. Getting a set of coilovers with adjustable dampening is much better

I change settings frequently.

Yeah but think of all the fiddly shit you'd have to monitor and take care of to keep the car running in top form. Plus I'm sure drivability would suffer big time. How could it not with almost 400hp?

EVDB Very true but I can easily imagine this costing $25,000+.

That is very reasonable!

EVDB honestly the stage 2 I had put into my 2009 vw GTI didn't fuck with drivablity. It stays nice and calm until I put my foot down. Then she wakes up and hauls ass

Arrtus cause it's still a GOLF

Audfile As opposed to what? It's better built than 90% of the cars on sale.

I guarantee my Z06 would destroy it

Your Z06 would slide off that mountain while you tried to keep up.

Audfile your poor soul. Once again it's clear you know nothing about cars.

Matthew Mohri Sadly not many will get this. It's the generation of swine.

Controlled chaos, i was looking for this comment. May he rest in peace

like poetry, its been in the shop for the last month and a half. The water pump started leaking, then the heater core, then the coolant line to the turbo, then some couplers, and then a coolant line beneath the dash was cracked. Hopefully I'll get it back next week, but regardless I'm in the hole ~$5000 on this string of coolant system leaks. No idea what the root cause is.

in my friends GTI you cant hear a difference from 3k up to the limiter. i was wondering if he is gunning it to the limiter. had to watch at the rpm gauge. guess thats the turbo which takes the noise out

Emic Moto lol

Of course I ran every gear to around 500 RpM short of redline.

TheSmokingTire don't lie to me bitch

I would go on APR's website and look at their list of certified dealers/installers in your area.

Eurocode in Torrance, CA

www.ingolstadtwest.com Theres also one in Canoga

Magic Juan dave at eurocode tell him luis landa sent you for a discount..

I have checked APRs website. Was hoping someone would have personal experience with a shop. It seems like Eurocode is probably the way to go for me. I bought the car in Torrance. I will be checking out Ingolstadt West too. Thanks for the replies.

Ry666 sounds like a fart every time

It's $17,000 plus a car, but that's because to get this much power you need an entire crate engine from APR, which is $6,500

Jack Flash you're not running them times....nice try kiddo.

Yes, i am.

I call BS.

Jack Flash nah kid, take your 13 sec / 300hp stage 2 somewhere else. This is bigboy talk.

stradman?

Buck Futter KZfaqr that did a purple camo wrap on his gallardo

huh?

Buck Futter you asked who the stradman is

why is he famous?

jjdayton yep that’s why an RS3 is $15k more than the Golf R out of the box!

Yeah, but add the cost of the stage 3+ kit and you’re in the same ballpark.

That's the point I was making. Going that fast in a VW product in the quarter mile requires $60,000 one way or the other.

It does not. That APR video is completely false. stage 1 rs3 has about 450-480 horse power. A 2018 Turbo S and 2018 488 GTB both have about 100-180 more horsepower than the rs3 and weigh a tad less and those both run 10.60. Are you actually trying to tell me that a RS3 are faster than both of those cars in the quarter mile? Anyhow, APR is definitely lying about that video. I read that the RS3 they used had an e85 tune, larger turbo, weight reduction and a couple other mods. It is definitely not stage 1 and is in reality pushing probably close to 600 hp.

Not compressor surge, the EFR turbo kit has a waste gate actuator that make the sound when you lift off throttle.

Sounds so much like surge!

You`re right, saw the shots of the engine bay and I definitely agree that its probably from the waste gate.

I have this fucking Gif of the Bob Parr's boss that's perfect for this situation, and now I'm have an inner conflict. Well, more like an internal Vietnam, if I'm honest, because part of me feels like KZfaq should let me do this; The other part of me is frozen in horror at the colossal clusterfuck KZfaq would become if they did allow Gifs.

Zcypot Matt said 40k for the golf r but you can buy used mk7s for 30-35k

How is it steep lol, isn't an STI close to 40k?

The 2.0 EA888 is a much more capable engine than the 2.5. No comparison.

How? Why? The only advantage is that the 2.0 is more common among tuners, so there are more parts. But other than that a bigger engine will always be the better tuning base.

Peter Griffin The 2.0 is a stronger, more efficient engine. Displacement has nothing to do with that. Why swap an engine when you can use the engine it came with? At that point, you’re tens of thousands of dollars in the hole without even having any power advantage until you start adding performances upgrades to the 2.5.

I don't know wether we are talking about the same blocks. The 2.5 i am talking about is also in the RS3 and the TT RS and is superior in any way.

Peter Griffin the rs3 hatch is pretty much the car you described. Idk how expensive that motor would be for a swap though

Lex Buren or 1050hp lol

yess, they even do mk1 and mk2 golfs with 1100 HP :D.. and they have a mitsubishi colt with 700HP. they are insane LOL

Lex Buren Yeah Boba doesn't mess around. Just bring along some extra driveshafts with you. Otherwise they are reliable.

And this gold looks like it going all over the place. Doesn't look it's on rails.