Congrats on becoming a large enough channel to get that Surfshark bag!

By the way, I have something to show you that you’re going to absolutely love. How do I send a message to you? You have to promise me you’re not going to send it to to anybody else lol

I think it was a nod of respect to everyone that didn't want to listen about Matty Healy 😂

I agree!

​@@claudiabcarvalho😂😂😂

@@claudiabcarvalho🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Agree, this was my perception as well. It's a nod of respect to him to make it the track 5 (after cooking him for how BORING he is lol).

Lol! Because But Daddy I Love Him is top tier song. Its my top song in this record.

Came to make sure someone commented this … okay on to the video now. 🤣♥️

they deserve it for insulting bdilh

@@carlospinsvinylYES. Might change, but it will always be top three on this album (with “Guilty As Sin?” and “loml”) and always top tier.

Came here to say the same. I feel we don’t use “your mom” jokes enough these days and this was the perfect time to bring it back.

I was gagged by that line 😭✌️

😂😂😂

The flock of albatross had come to feast on the carcasses of the Koi fish lmao rip speak now you would've love but daddy i love him 💜💜💜

​@@Ajlikestraveling so was all the fish

@@tabathaarria9558 you icon 💅✨

My jaw fell off... 🤣

Omg i love it 🤣

That was pure gold😅😅Revenge for the golden retrievers😂😂

I was gagged

More like a tattooed pitbull

asylum fr

Same! I watched myself down spiral in real time, lol

The fact that i was bored by Robin at first but its now one of my favorite songs is wild to me. I think im also just getting old protective of the kiddos in my life.

PREACH! 🙌🏼

one incredible thing about this album is how many emotionally resonant track there are for a track 5!

Ok I hadn’t thought of that but that’s such a good point

I think that would’ve helped break up the Anthology side of the album a bit. I like the Anthology more than the first half, but it can be exhausting by the time you get there. Just shuffling them together for better flow and cutting a few clunkers would’ve helped the entire thing, I think.

I love the Prophecy

me neither .. I just know that they’re gonna have quirky opinions

This!! Thanks for saying that… I get bullied by them occasionally…

💀💀 the way they are trying to be different is so stupid 💀💀

am I a new swiftie when I started listening before lover?

​@@afkluis nah, not really probably midnights or later is a new Swiftie

IDC....it's not beautiful to me!

@@theswiftologistpop off king

i gotta say, daughter’s song also called peter did that same topic in a more sonically interesting way. sorry not sorry 🤷‍♀️

@@liswane Peter is just a lullaby, it's not meant to sound that interesting.

ohhhh i don’t like it because i don’t tolerate men like that. peter is for the girls who need to decenter men it seems.

We often forget that, you’re right. She is, apart from all the other things, a businesswoman who employs a serious amount of people.

It’s true, a lot of people depend on her for their livelihoods.

Someone is pulling Harry Styles

thank u

So I don’t think they connected like that at all in 2014. My feeling is when they hooked up in 2023 they had explosive sexual chemistry, and when the sexual connection is that intense it’s easy to mistake it for love.

Yep.

​​​@@alexandraeilisewell, from all of what I've seen I don't agree. I checked the document that showed all the times they interacted in 2014 and he sang the song fallingforyou to her when she was on a balcony with Karlie Kloss. he said "I'm not going to kiss anybody in front of Taylor Swift have some respect" or something like that. he was known even back then I guess to kiss random fans. that's the song where he says "all we need is my bike and your big house". imgonnagetyouback references it. no spaces. (the beginning of that song also sounds the exact same as the 1975 song Somebody to Love which was also produced by Jack) they wore each other's merch on stage and out and about. him a 1989 shirt her a 1975 shirt. and they flirted on social media. then there's footage of him crying on stage and saying "it's just girls man" etc. the timeline lines up for this to be about when she started dating someone. I think Calvin Harris but I'm not sure. there's also the clip of him talking about his typewriter and how he writes in his notebook about his dreams of "falling in love with popstars". then they dedicated songs to each other on stage, i think his was About You and he said "this is about you, you know who you are i love you" and she said those exact words before singing Cardigan. there's so many references to lyrics he's had in past songs, music videos, stage performances, only so much of that can be a coincidence. i mean, the 1975 has a song called An Encounter that sounds like an alien vibe 👽 🛸 We know she was a fan of the 1975 before she even met him in 2014. there's a lot to examine...

Nonsense. She wasn’t pining for ratty for a decade. Hilarious! The six years of love & youth given to a Joe was the catalyst for the MH episode. Haven’t we all had a person we were like “I wonder how we’d be together” about? It doesn’t take up that much real estate in our hearts or minds. Until she was so sick of where she & Joe were at. What do you do when you’re hurt and angry during the final breaths of a breakup? You revolt! Going straight to some dirty boy your lover likely hates sounds like the best idea then! You’re not in your right mind. That’s all Matty was. It’s all he’ll ever be.

​@@cb4435 i do feel he was more than a rebelion, it sounds like she felt they had a genuine connection, and maybe they had, but it was when she was in a different place and kinda a different person. She has grown and he hasnt... which happens SO SO SO much in your 30s.

Real 😭

Great now you just made me imagine a Chihuahua with a curly toupee (is that how it is written?)

CORRECT

Chihuahua doesn’t have the right number of syllables, thus golden retriever (an amazing breed that doesn’t deserve this shame)

Soo..I believe ttpd song is addressing *someone’s* pretentiousness . Shes writing about statements/beliefs that a pretentious person had about themselves. Or conversations they had . She knows him, she’s trying to bring him back to reality (Dylan Thomas, etc..) maybe trying to make the point made the lyrics not great, make she doesn’t care cuz she made the point she wanted

I think she means she used to "love it cause of the light" (YLM), which then is a reference to the Lover house. She's not living the place she loves because of him; she leaving the place she no longer loves because she can't be with him.

Metaphors: the place probably refers to Joe and the relationship. Not literal.

He is London in the song , i don’t think any of it is abut the actual place

​@@beccac6812 my theory too

I scream this line. I scream sing this to my neighbours who I sold my house to get away from 😭😭😭

like he came for peoples throats with that canon fire of an intro

THIS. Constructive criticism is good. Anything else is Hateration.

This comment literally describes the entire swiftly netural subreddit after ttpd came out. I tried to see others opinions on her album, and opening the subreddit was like stepping into a nuclear explosion of deep criticism and venom directed towards Taylor, and even towards the people who said the songs that they don't like were good. Literally no one was talking about the songs, just the lyrics that they didn't like.

​@@Thepeanutcollectorshe was one of the most loved artist the previous year now she is literally of the hated I am genuinely shocked how so many people haatee and trash her as tho she is hilter herself Most of the complaints I have heard of her albums r like -too many songs -it 's too complex to understand -very slow and sad apparently Like there r millions of artists who release music every few years and release more upbeat songs Like I wanna hear actual critic of the album not about her

whoever said that needs to open a book and by that i mean something that‘s not faerie smut.

I have a feeling they are 12 and have no idea- yet.

they deserve prison but they won't get time unfortunately

​@@MissteriousMisstressdon't insult 12 yrs olds. I'm myself 13 and I just love this album.

@@Ms_Writer22 its not an insult ' I'm saying they have no point of reference for these songs (and nor should they)❤️

the first time i listened to ttpd was very disjointed and i only got to bdilh on my first listen before getting interrupted by going to work and i was listening to fortnight and i asked myself ‚oh no what is this‘ and then my boy only breaks his favourite toy was an instant fave but by down bad i was back to what are we doing here. but daddy i love him really made the album click the first time around.

yeah that was the song that gave me hope for the rest of the album lol. unfortunately it didn’t really get better but at least we got but daddy i love him!

These songs express some of the deepest hurt both a girl and a woman can go through in her lifetime. Being left out and growing old.

I was thinking the same. Though i do respect his opinion but the way he says it just sounds rude because other people like it 🥰🥰

@@soumyasam1 Yeah totally! 🥰

I couldn’t of said it better myself 👏

@@ericagoforth8793she has so many better songs that express this sentiment

Trying so so hard to make it work and saying to yourself , no I'm 30 now it HAS to work. Yep. Also moved cities and countries after the break up. The song hits hard.

@@faegibb4043 you are speaking my exact experience 🫠 it’s been 4 years, I’m 30, I CANNOT start over. Although lol it’s been 1.5 years since the breakup, I did start over, and I’ve had zero luck finding someone. And I’m only getting older! Yay OH and I moved states after my breakup! We are so on the same page 🫶🏼 yeah, anyone who doesn’t like SLL has never been through THAT 🤣

So long london is not just a death of a relationship but a death of a dream and a death of a future you had poured everything into and fully committed to.

@@corneliastreet2491 100%!!!! Sometimes I had to ask myself if it was actually my ex as a person I was missing, or just the feeling of being lost that came along with having my life upended at 30 while I should have been planning a wedding.

period

PERIOD and if I'm being honest I eat up the bleep bloop of it all

that's why I found my way here, I wasn't into her older style (and had missed out on Rep and Lovers, which I went back to and also like a lot from), I don't think I'm the only one who enjoys her style now so much more.

real I declared myself a full on swiftie after midnights like that shit got me running across my house in joy and then bawling on the floor.

It requires you to go back to old albums and that’s what is so fun

The Black Dog is the best song on this album. And relatable while being specific.

it is nothing like either of those songs lol but I do love it

I agree that it’s giving Last Kiss!

If the black dog has no fans I’m dead. The girls that get it get it

lmao

I totally agree. Those silly, stupid lyrics about tattood golden retriever represent the unhinged things you think/say while being high. That's why it comes right after lines about smoking and eating too many chocolate bars.

That’s what I thought at first. Until somebody explained the 7 bars of chocolate is a reference to a 1975 song Chocolate.

That is a really great point! I also think it's really sad and heartbreaking in the sense of wasting your late 20s when seemingly everyone around is getting married or having kids. Yes career and all that other stuff matters but the biological clock is real, and it's not stopping for anyone. Deep down as a woman, you always know that you can manage to eventually get over someone, even accept being heartbroken indefinitely, but you can never ever recover your "youth".

I also think it's worth pointing out that The Anthology's track 5 is How Did It End?, which is another Joe song. Ultimately, even with the Matty pile-up, I feel like at the very core of it all her heartbreak still started and ended with Joe. Matty was the middle stuff that was supposed to take her mind off of it but only made it worse instead.

I think anyone who has ever gone through and finally left a ling-term “you’re losing me/so long London” sort of relationship absolutely understands why this is Taylor’s track five.

i mean matty treated her badly, but what hurts more than the person you imagined yourself marrying not being able to leave their problems behind and commit to you? when love just isn't enough? "you sacrificed us to the Gods of your bluest days" I think after all that was the most hurtful thing for her to realize and that's why it is track 5.

The whole album is only possible because of So Long London. If Joe would have listened to her songs, even the one he penned the first verse for (Exile) and acted on it she would have gotten colour in her face and be ringed like she wanted instead of running to the idea of a man she build up in her head over the years and that most of the album is about.

Very much not

Peter is better yup!

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@@ddyissuew5859yup! Yup! Yup!

Wait... What is up with all of this Champaign problems slander?

Honestly it is clunky. But that’s why I LOVE IT. It’s so rambly and so textbook Taylor. Especially when the music changes with it. It’s almost like she stops singing and just goes off on him. It’s great, but absolutely clunky. Clunky doesn’t have to mean bad though. It may not be for everyone but it’s for me absolutely.

It depends. I don't see Melon Tusk as a human. If that makes me a bad person, so be it.

Agreed. Identity is layered. Being privileged in one way doesn’t erase other identities. TS will always be held to a double standard bc she is a woman, no matter how rich and successful she becomes. Dehumanizing anyone is harmful to everyone involved!

She’s an odd human in a good way. No amount of money and fame was able to kill the deep empathy and romantic vision she has towards life

Every billionaire is human. Plus billionaires pay taxes and may not have a billion in the bank. I don't get why Swifties who I see online keep mentioning she is a billionaire. Taylor wants to be known for her talent. Rightly so. With Joe, Taylor even wrote the first year together was right but when time went on, she tried to get Joe back to how he was the first year. By the last few years, Taylor had it when they couldn't go out in public with Joe OK with it. The line about her friends telling her she is crazy by staying with him and Taylor says, no, no, she can get him back to how he treated her the first year. And of course she can't. She just wasn't ready to end it. When she saw Joe was never going to marry her (the alter) and she was sick of being in jail, the relationship had to end but by that time, she felt free. Not heartbroken since her other relationships that ended, she wasn't ready for, the guys ended it. Except for a couple. With Matty, Taylor thought it was going to go on and on. It was a shock to her he ghosted her so soon.

@@claudiabcarvalhomy exact thought 🥲

And show me any other billionaire that is that industrious and prolific both physically and intellectually. She earned her billion. Very little passive income there.

Right and that billion dollars couldn’t fix her relationship with Joe or make Matty change. Money can buy things that make you happy but it can’t buy a non toxic relationship so i agree the billionaire take is just annoying

This is exactly what she’s saying in The Prophecy.

Exactly!! Identity is layered and dehumanizing someone for any reason is harmful.

I completely agree, as someone who's not very fond of billionaires, I know they're still humans, I don't like those who do their best to exploit their workers, but Taylor, to my knowledge, is pretty kind and generous. Also, most times the system that allows wealth disparity is the thing to blame, not individuals Although I would really love to be able to afford the best psychiatrists in the world when I'm going through heartbreak lol She is really lucky in that regard but that still doesn't negate her human emotions

the same people think that loml is about joe so yeah

​@@MarcDoesNotKnow obviously is about joe. Ratty? You have to be kidding me!

​@@Alberis07 how is loml about joe?

@@Clara_taylorsversion First, I refuse to believe that this song is about ratty, but that's not objective. What is objective is what the lyrics of the song say: 1) "talking rings and talking candles" i meaannn... marriage. And we know who Taytay wanted to marry. 2) "who's gonna stop us from walzing back" Taylor only has one song in her entire career that is in fact waltz, which one is it? LOVER! 3) "i thought that i was better safe than stary ed" really her relationship with joe was a safe place but never an exciting place, she has said that many times throughout this album. how he felt without illusion, imprisoned in that relationship. those are some of the reasons why i think loml is about joe. As well the smallest men who ever live is about matty.

I'm not a fan of this album with the reason that it sounds undercooked production wise. But Loml is classic Taylor swift poetry. It's so good!

I love how Cardigan is the prelude to Peter!! Cardigan- “Peter losing Wendy” “you’d be standin in my front porch light” Peter- “the woman who sits by the window has turned out the light”

I know a lot of people are running with this theory but I really disagree about him being the Peter to her Wendy and cardigan being woven into this theory. It’s pretty clear when you listen to the album that her desire and *need* to be with Matty was not fuelled because he was this long lost love of hers but rather it was a result of her being broken due to her relationship with a Joe. Also Matty didn’t renter her life until midnights was being produced and being around someone who you once shared something with while your LTR that once felt like forever is dying a slow death, it makes sense why she deluded herself into believing that Matty was actually her fate all along. We need to understand that when her relationship with Joe ended, it also took with it an entire belief system constructed around him being her saviour. If it was written in the stars then why did it end in such a slow agonising way where he refused to try to make it better. It was easier for her to cling to the idea that it was Matty who was her lost love and than come to terms with the fact that “there were no signs of soulmates. Hence why, she dedicated of cardigan to him not because she was always secretly in love with him but rather because that’s what she convinced herself of. We need to understand that GaS? is a delusional song and the wake up from that it realising that it was actually counterfeit and never real, that is why it’s embarrassing for her. Because she let herself fall for it and deluded herself to a point where she herself was convinced that she had always secretly loved him. So, thesis statement, she didn’t weave him into all of her poems she just convinced herself that she did because that was easier to digest than confronting the slow demise of her LTR that she was convinced was going to last forever. She describes it that way herself in the summation poem, it was manic phase, it was self harm it wasn’t this buried desire that stayed with her all the while she was with Joe. It got triggered because he re entered her orbit while she was already in a bad place

Why did I have a feeling that somehow peter was about her letting harry styles go🤡. Cause if you do think about it, matty did return to her, he just didn’t grow up, but Harry grew as both an artist and as a person and didn’t really try to return to her, when I really think that in the back of her mind, she has a what if where he returns. Also, the lost to the “lost boys chapter” may or may not have a connection with 1D

THIS!!! Thank you! I for one am a Matty Healy fan (gasp!) and think he’s got a lot of bs that’s undeserved. Unpopular opinion I know

Thisss​@@MayankSingh-do2vy

That would be awesome!! 😂🤣😅

I think Taylor's lyrics combine different events, tattooed golden retriever might be relating to more than one person.

I’ve noticed that too but I don’t mind it as long as it transforms into;being something greater than the colloquial use of the term itself. For example, hits different, living in my head rentfree from lover, the term eras like these are phrases that were in popular use when she added them to her discography. Like I said I don’t mind it as long as it doesn’t feel out of place and can take on a different meaning

i hope she stops doing it fr... it's kinda cringe 💀

Those wouldn't show up. How is golden retriever a "gen Z" term?? Girlie taylor swift isn't stooping to our level.. if she starts saying "cap" and "slay" then I'll debate it. wild some of y'all think saying "down bad" means she's trying to be hip and in or whatever.

As a cat person I didn’t get the metaphor 😂

The Black Dog Taylor has walking in her Fortnight video, Matty before that had a black dog walking in his video . What people don't realize is that Taylor used words from Matty's interviews, his videos, his album covers etc. It was like she was "obsessed " with following Matty. Even Taylor marching was taken from Matty marching. I don't know if Taylor was trying to tell Matty she watched everything he did and it is possible since she really fell for him in the ten years.

Oh that kinda makes sense

Somebody mentioned that it might have to do with a song that the 1975 band has either called "high" or something (hence the reference to smoke) and THAT song has a 7 bar verses or something (hence the 7 bars of chocolate) now this could all be delulu... But I wouldn't put it past her to use it as a reference that only HIS fans, HIM and people that might know this will recognize it while the rest of us are like "WHAT on earth does she mean with the 7 bars of.chocolate?"

Maybe she was just trying to show what a digusting weird ass Ratty is. Dude gets stoned and binges on chocolate and then sits and wants to be petted like a dog, acting all docile. It shows how damaged he is, and I think a real part of her likes taking care of people because she is a people pleaser.

Love your point of view!

Love ❤

Exactly! Honestly, I'm convinced she and Joe A would have split up sooner if it wasn't for the pandemic. The circumstances that bought them together were also the circumstances that revealed they weren't compatible. Taylor is Miss Americana, she will never have a low key life and she needs someone who can withstand that. As for the Matty of it all, well if hey are meant to be, they will find each-other despite all the drama but he'll have to be able to put up with her world, if not...

Agree! Matty was like a golden retriever to HER black cat, not us lmao. Why don't people understand that we don't know him personally like Taylor did.

I think it's the female gaze that he can't connect with. I'm 27, and I've seen so many guys that refuse to grow up and no one gives a sh1t, but I've been told I have to grow up since I was a literal child. With CP, it's all about feeling you're not entitled to happiness in love because you're a broken doll unable to fulfill the requirements set up for women, so you blame yourself and wish the best for the guys you love, and the best is not you.

ugh yes "love isn't lost when perspective is earned" the bridge of peter is one of my fav on the album

some people crave drama, and when there is none, just pure poetry they are bored.

Peter Pan is the one that I find myself coming back to for a good cry.

@@claudiabcarvalhogirl there’s no way you abbreviated champagne problems as CP i literally thought you meant child cornography and had a heart attack 😭

I love Gorgeous and London Boy but I hate The Tortured Poets Department 😭 I wish I liked it but there’s endearing cringe and there’s embarrassing cringe and it’s firmly the latter to me.

True

I never thought of that! The most Lana I heard was on the verses in So Long London. It was somewhere between spoken and sung. (I’m also not a huge Lana fan yet btw - going to be but haven’t gone through her discography yet - so if there any other Lana fans here that could confirm I’d love more thoughts)

The production on Fortnight kinda reminds me of an unreleased song by Lana, named 'Hollywood'. But that's just a synthwave inspired sound, which almost every pop artist has it somewhere in their works.

imo, Fresh out the slammer sounds sooooo Lana productions wise (and I love it!)

I also think people are associating her songs to Lana's is because Taylor is using her deeper voice more, and it some instances it sounds like Lana's way of singing, especially because a lot of people who don't really listen to diverse music and diverse ways of singing (nothing wrong with that of course) only know that type of singing voice as Lana's because for them she's the one who popularised it and brought it to mainstream music. I also don't know many mainstream and pop singers who sing that way, the only other one that comes to mind is Lorde

I spit out the sip of coffee I was drinking when you read aloud the opinion that the black dog cover is hideous

@@sicilyyyyy Also, I've often hoped certain men would grow up and come find me. It's very relatable in that sense.

Agreed. It fills me with such a specific kind of sweet sadness which almost takes my breath away every time.

I don’t understand the “for free” part, and I’m also getting closer to my thirties. Nothing is free, you experienced it, so you got something out of it. You were there, you wanted to stay there for a while, presumably because something was being gained, why would it have been ‘free’? Would marriage for example have made it better if they had broken up in the end?

@@lfior are you a woman?

​@lfior well no, but she would have gone into the marriage expecting it to be forever. I don't think "for free" is the best phrase but as an unmarried, childless 35 year old, I would honestly be so mad if my partner broke up with me now 😂 I'm pushing my final hot years I don't want them wasted 😂

@@lfior you don't know what she got out of it though. no one does lol. we don't know these people personally. not for you or anyone else to police words she uses to describe her own feelings and experiences.

I can 100% agree to this especially because TS has made it very clear she does want marriage and kids and that is the ultimate goal for her and for Joe to just kinda take her youth from her and want to change her and hold it over her head is devastating.

same thoughts! i never really found any problems with songs being overwritten or under edited bc both cases fit the poet theme either way. i fjnd it strange how the general population doesn't see it that way

period

Agreed- I'm in my 30’s now and I bawled!!!

Or people just listen to a lot if artists that aren't Taylor...idk food for thought.

​@@agathamethyst45 your reply doesn't even make sense to the conserve you're replying to.

@agathamethyst45 According to my Lastfm, I’ve streamed over 500 artists across dozens of genres, and I still love TTPD 🤷‍♀️

That's an old saying among artists that dating a muse brings bad luck. I'm pretty skeptical myself, but maybe there might be some psychological truth to that.

thank you!! x

I see your point and it’s definitely a huge possibility. But another interpretation could be that because they spent those 6 years together and he preferred to stay extremely private this was a way to show her respect for their long relationship. Coupled with the fact that we now in hindsight know that Midnights was partly an album depicting the break down of their relationship ending with You’re Losing Me

well yes

Yes I agree but also the TTPD had so many like marketing possibilities so ig that’s why they went with that

the mental gymnastics is CRAZY but i kinda get it

the ‚underneath the scary exterior he‘s really just a good boy‘ juxtaposition was so obvious to me. i do think golden retriever bf is just something the kids say to describe a guy who‘s really kind hearted and cute, without the class implications but in spirit i agree with your take here. again, very obvious juxtaposition. doesn‘t stop it from feeling clunky and ‚how do you do fellow kids‘ of her but for some reason, people seem to be having a hard time reading these lyrics because they convey simple concepts in overcomplicated ways.

@@wa11ie I didn't intend to imply any class connotation; 'bourgeois' was what my dictionary gave me for the German class neutral term 'spießig' that I was reaching for, which means something that is the opposite of wild/rebellious/dangerous. (English is not my first language).

​@@MrsShimmyOnDown Was the word you were looking for "conventional"? That's what I'm taking away from your comment, since bourgeois is sometimes used in a similar way. Matty strikes me as someone who desperately wants to be seen as weird and extraordinary but is really just an average dude deep down.

​@@MrsShimmyOnDown Was the word you were looking for "conventional"? That's what I'm taking away from your comment, since bourgeois is sometimes used in a similar way. Matty strikes me as someone who desperately wants to be seen as weird and extraordinary but is really just an average dude deep down.

This is a great point. We see the dirty ratty, but through her eyes at the time, he was adorable, sweet and warm.

We know that, it's just that the picture that those words paint is weird. Tattooed... Golden Retriever? It's like Rebekah dying the dog key lime green, but that actually made sense. I don't want to picture a tattooed dog, that's animal cruelty 😭

Why is it so difficult for people to understand that maybe matty was like a golden retriever to HER in private. It doesn't matter whether we think he's a golden or not cause we don't know him personally 🤷

It’s one my favorites from the anthology, but definitely not my favorite bridge( even though I also like it)

I love the theme of Peter and I like the song! a relationship you always plan to go back to but don’t-been there! repetition is a bit much for me in it though, but maybe that’s how she feels thinking about this person often again and again. Makes sense to me personally but I get that it’s not everyone’s tea😊

Taylor referred to Matty as a tattooed golden retriever because when she sang to him at her concert he looked like to her a tattooed cocker spaniel the way he was standing seeming in love.

she's standing on an insanely thin line rn where anything she does will be ostracized one way or another. let her be human!!

I feel like the reason some people are put off by ICDIWABH isn’t the song at all - it’s the ending. “Try and come for my job” - really? The job millions of people are literally STARVING on the streets of Hollywood trying to have? The job she herself said she would “die if she made it.” I feel like that part is the part that takes me out. It’s smug and it doesn’t add anything to the song. I think that’s what’s made people go “oh try and come for your job? How about having a broken heart and having to work in a hospital everyday and tell a new mother their baby is stillborn or having to tell parents their kid’s cancer is terminal.” I don’t think most people have an issue with her gassing herself up and celebrating that she’s still killing it even with a broken heart. Good on you girl! You put on a fantastic show and never let any of those breakups keep you from going out on the stage. But being all smug and saying “try and come for my job” is what led to people saying “oh hey I’ll gladly come perform every night in thousand dollar designer gowns and go home to my mansion on my private jet and dry my heartbroken tears with hundred dollar bills - you can have my life-threatening construction worker job and barely make enough to feed your family in this economy while still having that same broken heart - let’s trade right now.” Do you understand where I’m coming from? It’s not that she’s not allowed to have a broken heart or that her being a billionaire makes her problems nonexistent. That’s not it at all! It’s the attitude in that song that’s a little tone deaf and off putting. Just to play devils advocate as someone who very much likes that song, but I do get where people are coming from. It’s a lack of humility that most people aren’t used to with Taylor since she’s usually very self aware about her privilege.

I think " try and come for my job" is a call out to the Kim and Kanye fiasco, to the constant attempts to cancel her or criticise her work.nothing todo with saying sing on a stage is hard, its more about recognizing that so many people have tried to tear her down while she keeps going

@@cc1526 yea I see where you’re coming from but I also think it’s liek her saying ‘try and come for it!’ as in ‘no matter what happens in my love life/personal relationships, no one can beat me at my job’ bc let’s be honest, Taylor works hard af at her job even when her personal life is falling apart, and its generally acknowledged that even if you dislike her music, she works hard to perform every night and release liek 50 projects every year, so to me it wasn’t her saying ‘my job is harder than everyone elses’ it was more just her acknowledging that a lot of average people would probably be unable to do her job or would break under the pressure of it all, and how she is ‘able to do it with a broken heart’ and imo she is allowed to be a little smug since even if she is privileged (and we can acknowledge that don’t get me wrong) she has worked hard and she’s allowed to be a little smug imo.

@@tarathoughts13 I guess I just don’t like that smugness because I don’t believe the narrative that “no one can do it like her.” There’s plenty of people who could but don’t have the money, recognition, or nepotism to get them there. Plus, there was people before her who were just as good if not better like Michael Jackson and there will be people after her that will be just as good too. But I don’t just feel that for Taylor - I feel that way for everyone. I think a big lesson I’ve had to learn lately is as far as our jobs go, we are 100% replaceable. Someone did your job before you and someone will do your job when you’re gone. I just experienced this firsthand at my company. A very important manager decided to take a new job at a new company. She had worked there for years and was very important to the company. I honestly didn’t know how we’d go on without her, but I showed up Monday morning to an office that felt like nothing changed. We all just moved on like nothing happened. It was really eye opening for me how important we can be while we’re there but how quickly people can move on when we’re gone. It really made me realize how unimportant jobs are in the grand scheme of our life and how much more important our actual family and friends are because those are the only people who will truly miss your presence when we’re gone. All of this to say - I don’t think there’s any point in being smug in how “good” you are at your job. You can be proud of your work sure, but there will always be someone better than you so there’s no point in getting a big head because that’s when you get humbled lol But like I said, I was playing devil’s advocate. I like the song and I think she’s incredibly talented and puts on a great show. Humility is just very important to me because it shows character.

I can see that being true, I've read a comment from someone saying they felt offended by what she says in "But Daddy I love him" and needs to distance herself now from her... as if talking about someone she knows personally... people have such severely toxic parasocial ties, from feeling entitled to telling her who to date to feeling personally offended by her lyrics, it's wild...

@@Dani-lc9hqFor real. I can’t help but raise an eyebrow when I watch people flip out over MH. Just enjoy the music or don’t 🤷🏼‍♀️

I second, third and fourth this!!!! 100% needs drums. In the past couple of albums the drums were beautifully crafted and actually very well thought out but I miss a good strong drum sounds.

Most of The Anthology does incorporate live instruments! I’m not sure about drums but there are violins, cellos, french horns, etc. It says so in the descriptions of her uploads on KZfaq.

Or maybe holding him as a secret as a muse from the public all these years is what kept it alive.Once she exposed him and herself she could finally get over him

she writes plenty for the lore, the line ‚you smoked then ate 7 bars of chocolate‘ is a reference to some 1975 song where they use chocolate as an analogy for weed or something. the scarf line in atw is for the lore because she wore the red gucci scarf on a pap walk with jake gyllenhaal. ‚stained glass windows in my mind‘ in wcs is for the lore because john mayer lived in a church. there‘s probably so much more that i can‘t think of but taylor writes lines for the lore all of the time and she has been doing so since fearless. what is the entirety of cornelia street if not establishing lore? ask any swiftie who‘s been to nyc in the past five years, they all went to cornelia street. people brought flowers there when her break up with joe alwyn was announced. yes she wrote ‚red blood white snow‘ recently, same with fuck the patriarchy. some of these vault songs were shelved ideas she‘s reworking now for the rereleased versions, i don‘t think that‘s a real secret and i don‘t think it‘s a bad thing of her to do. she probably had the ideas at the time but they‘re just taking a new shape with the power of hindsight.

It irritates me that people insist the f the patriarchy line couldn’t have been written back then. Just bc y’all never learned about 2nd wave Feminism doesn’t mean it wasn’t a thing back then. It ABSOLUTELY was. There is no doubt in my mind that Jake Gyllenhaal could have gotten a f the patriarchy keychain from one of his hipster Brooklyn friends or at an art market. I was a Gender Studies minor at a college just outside NYC a few years before that song was written and ppl were 1000% saying f the patriarchy.

*2nd wave Feminism was the 70s, for clarity I mean plenty of people knew about the history of Feminism and were talking about gender in the 00s.

Agreed. I also feel like if you don't connect, that's fine. That's an individuals feeling but a lot of people choose to use their feelings of not liking it to either generate hate or want to speak for everyone else. Like "only Swifties are delusional to like this". I have friends who don't like her music and all loved TTPD and I've seen older people coming on board that didn't give her a shot before. An individual can only speak for themselves and nobody else. I am going to like what I like and nobody can take that away because they don't ❤

Ignoring is the best solution. Lover was the last album I first heard without being on Swiftie related social media. It’s hard to enjoy something when you’re just seeing endless amounts of articles about it. I simply judged it based on how it sounded, and it was mostly a pretty good album. Unfortunately i can’t really avoid socials anymore. Taylor is doing so much and I have to keep up with it.

Yours is the most insightful and compassionate analysis I have read. Thank you. You have either had some really good therapy, or you are a therapist yourself!

@@susanmiller7612, thank you! I appreciate you reading my musings.🌝

right?? it's kinda underwhelming how she stays in this basic pop progression and reused midnights and 1989 tv vault track melodies. she literally did tolerate it she can do so much more omg. the most this album has in store was the switch up in the outro of fresh out the slammer and that's it.

I very much agree with this

So true, the lyrics have so many layers, its sad the melodies cant follow

Maybe complain to her multiple award winning producer - sure, he’ll say omg you’re right please come do my job 🤣

The point is that she is calling back to other songs in some of these melodies. There is a purpose in everything she does. I also think some things will make more sense when the Rep Vault is finally open.

never....

Peter is ok, but Taylar said in Stockholm that it was her favourite.

for some reason i just don’t like how it starts. after the first line of the song i like it idk why the first line annoys me so much 😭

@@Izzywildflowerr Really? Its one of my favorites for some reason.

Exactly! I’m kinda getting sick of the whole ‘I’m just a small girl’ like GIRL NO YOURE NOT. You’re in your 30s and you’re a billionaire who has immense power and can literally buy the music industry, it was okay when she was younger or when she was talking about people who were in higher powers of her, but I think she’s having trouble accepting that SHE is now the one in power. I definitely think she is someone who sort of mentally has this high school fantasy when it comes to love, like the ‘bad boy is gonna come and save me from my palace’ thing, and I think it’s just an outcome of her being raised in the public eye. But I agree with you that all of her songs where she acknowledges that she’s matured (Peter being the main one) are her best works, I’m not against her being cheeky in songs, but I like when she’s cheeky in songs like I can do with a broken heart more than when she’s cheeky in songs like but daddy I love him (not saying I dislike that song at all, I love it, but only when you take it out of th context that Taylor is in her 30s and not a teenager)

I watched a review from a critic I've followed for years. He's been acting like a boomer lately, so I was losing interest in his content. However, his review of this album felt off and kinda mean. It felt more like a response to Taylor Mania than the actual album. I don't think I want to watch him anymore. If you want a good review of the album, watch Spectrum Pulse's review. He is critical of some aspects of the album, but overall he liked it and treats Taylor with empathy.

@@santaclara6112 I noticed that (Taylor Mania) also from someone I’ve followed for years, their reaction felt insincere.

I've been a swiftie since the John mayor era. And I barely have nice words to say bout this album. My main take on it's just undercooked production wise. You can hear that it's rushed seeing how all songs start blending into one melody at some point. This the first time I had to work to rearrange the playlist research other swifties playlist just so that I can enjoy it. But it's just that forgettable no matter how much I arranged it. My ears would still go to the vault tracks of 1989 and midnights. The only songs I liked were the prophecy, Loml, down bad, WAOLOM. The music production and lyrics were just seamless together. And I can't listen to ICDIWABH, hearing Taylor be so broken is too much. I just wished some helped her in rearranging the music a lil better and kept a few of the songs in that vault to marinate. And maybe she could have released a free fan only album where she could put all the songs that were clearly just for the fan lore. Another swiftie said "TTPD is Taylor's Marvel" too many Easter eggs that it alienates new fans and non swiftie listeners. It Swifties being so condescending "well if you must now this is a clue for" let's be real. MOST PEOPLE DONT CARE. Paying listeners just want to listen to good music. Taylor's always been a champion in that. Just this time around she missed. I just hope Taylor learns from all the legit criticisms.

It's the lyrics for me. There are some songs that are beautifully written, but in general her songwriting here was disappointing... her worst when it comes to writing I'd say.

Whats the name of the reviewer PLS?? ​@@santaclara6112

thank you

Keep up the great work ❤