Evolution of WW2 German Tank Destroyers

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Used extensively by the German Army of World War Two, the “tank destroyer” was developed to counter the increasing dominance of the tank on the battlefield.
Germany would field a massive 18 different types of tank destroyer in World War Two - compared with the 7 or 8 different types used by US, British and Commonwealth forces. One of these in particular, Sturmgeschütz III, would destroy more tanks than any other AFV in the entire conflict.
In this video we look at the development, strengths and weaknesses of German tank destroyers: from the17 tonne Hetzer to the massive 70 tonne Jagdtiger - the heaviest tracked vehicle of the War.
00:00 | Introduction
00:59 | The First Tank Destroyers
04:14 | Avoiding Close Combat
06:59 | Jagdpanther
12:05 | Jagdtiger
15:31 | Hetzer
18:01 | Stug III
22:51 | Conclusion
This video features archive footage courtesy of British Pathé.
#tankmuseum #jagdpanther #stugiii #hetzer #jagdtiger

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@Tuaj Ай бұрын

The quality of these videos is simply excellent, incredible work. Better than most WWII TV documentaries.

@DaveSCameron Ай бұрын

Another example of the British quest for the finest and I don’t know if you’ve visited the Tank Museum at Bovington yet but if not I strongly encourage you to make the trip. Best wishes.📚☘️

@chpet1655 Ай бұрын

Meh

@hasanhaskovic4307 Ай бұрын

@@chpet1655 sure told them

@yumazster 29 күн бұрын

No waffling or treating audience like children is a definitely a good thing. Discovery / History channel productions convey a fraction of information in an hour out of which a quarter is brain dead ads.

@chartreux1532 12 күн бұрын

Since this is the Top Comment, i wanna share what most WW2 Axis Tank Veterans thought about the Tanks, since i had 3 in my Family (well 4, 1 is now alive at 104 years old) and i met many during Veteran Meetings as well as after my Military Service when i decided to become a Historian and interviewed countless Axis Tank Veterans. So the Sturmgeschütz was beloved by everyone, never any Complaints. Same is true for the Panther and ofc the Panzer III and IV and all of it's Versions. When it came to the Tiger, lots of Complaints. Basically Tiger in a Nutshell "It's amazing until it needs Repairs". There are some great Books like from Otto Carius who was a Tank Ace on that Topic, and he is just being realistic and honest, unlike all the "Wehraboos" nor the ... what do you call the Opposite of a Wehraboo? I know they exist too, i see them all the Time, the People who think everything Axis was Trash. Anyway, can recommend! And always keep in Mind that the best Axis Tanks were the ones that got less Attention than the ones who were the worst! Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps

@FMKeb Ай бұрын

Sturmgeschutz is my favorite. The StuG always stayed to a good tank design, and never overdid it. It had reliable armor, a tried and tested chassis, and a gun that wasn’t too big, nor too small. Also had the highest kill rate of all German tanks. It’s a little diamond in the rough of Tigers, Panthers and such tanks like those.

@Leo_Sneedinsky Ай бұрын

Hello fellow stug fan!

@Whatisthisstupidfinghandle Ай бұрын

Yes. I have a Stug Life tshirt

@markjenkins4882 Ай бұрын

I totally agree 👍

@SaraP.-mi8gg Ай бұрын

I like the Stug also... reliable, easy to hide,nasty 75mm gun

@comrade_commissar3794 Ай бұрын

The Stug isn’t a tank

@HumbleHonkingEnthusiast Ай бұрын

I absolutely adore when engineers decide to take the biggest gun they can find and build a vehicle around it

@nothingbutchappy Ай бұрын

Literally the A10 design philosophy lol

@66kbm Ай бұрын

Or put it on a vehicle not designed for it.

@PantsofVance Ай бұрын

Too bad there's a thing called air support

@osmacar5331 Ай бұрын

@@PantsofVance needs supremacy.

@AKUJIVALDO Ай бұрын

@@PantsofVancetoo bad FLAK fooks it over LOL

@ObsydianShade Ай бұрын

The Jagdpanzer IV deserved at least a mention....

@Matt80407 Ай бұрын

Definitely, especially since there were more of them made than the Nashorn, the Elefant, and the Jagdpanther combined. It's a very strange oversight in an otherwise great video.

@iatsd Ай бұрын

It always gets ignored :(

@ScrogginHausen Ай бұрын

Do they have one in the collection? If not, that might be why it's not mentioned.

@iatsd Ай бұрын

@@ScrogginHausen There were several they *did* mention that they also don't have in the collection. I think they were just being their usual sloppy selves.

@Matt80407 Ай бұрын

@@ScrogginHausen As far as I can tell, they don't have a Jagdpanzer IV, but they don't seem to have a Nashorn or Elefant either, so that excuse doesn't work. The video just blatantly ignores the 2nd (or 3rd if we count the StuG) most common German TD of WW2.

@Sahrawiyun Ай бұрын

I just have to say I'm amazed by the production quality of these videos. Really well done.

@DaveSCameron Ай бұрын

Produced by the wonderful team at the Tank Museum. 👏👏👏

@callumgordon1668 Ай бұрын

Love the clarity of Chris’s delivery. Another brilliant video.

@randomname3109 Ай бұрын

really? i thought, there was, quite a lot, of, unnecessary, punctuation, in the delivery

@gunner678 Ай бұрын

Former British cavalry officer and instructor. I remember him speaking at Larkhill RA gunnery school as a guest speaker on use of armour, up from Bovington Armoured School back in the 80s.

@dartawnasailo4449 5 сағат бұрын

@@randomname3109he got out of breath j think 😅

@thetankmuseum Ай бұрын

Hey Tanks Nuts! What did you think of our latest video? Which of these German Tank Destroyers do you think was the best - let us know below

@BlahajGaming2001 Ай бұрын

stuh 42 has big boom stick

@kevinyaucheekin1319 Ай бұрын

@@BlahajGaming200110.5 cm boom stick 😊

@seanbumstead1250 Ай бұрын

Great video,I still prefer the stug III

@T.efpunkt Ай бұрын

Hetzers gonna hetz

@AB-oe1sc Ай бұрын

Great video, really interesting to see the wide range of tank destroyers used. I still like the Stug, simple effective and great looking.

@Eggstraordinary23 Ай бұрын

I’m literally 20 minutes away from the museum right now and I am heading there while watching this 😂. It is my absolute FAVORITE museum and I haven’t been in a while. So I can’t wait!

@Spartan902 Ай бұрын

The design of the Stug was spot on. A excellent balance of armour, speed and fire power. I am also a fan of the Hetzer.

@spaseman6343 Ай бұрын

В основе Хетцер чешский танк. И он не удобен для команды.STUG штурмовое орудие и охотник. Hetzer jast a hunter.

@bobusamogus Ай бұрын

@@spaseman6343 the czech chassis was very very good, it's why the germans kept fielding it so late

@warcrimeswilly631 Күн бұрын

@@bobusamogusit was mostly because the czechs had a lot of factories that could quickly build that chassis and it would be too expensive to change the factories to build a better chassis

@brianferguson7840 Ай бұрын

I am not a military history fan in any way, but, I find these videos fascinating. I never miss one. It's a combination of interesting content and brilliant presentation with no gimmicks or unnecessary effects. Well done you !

@osmacar5331 Ай бұрын

So you are a military history fan.

@DaveSCameron Ай бұрын

@@osmacar5331he’s still in the closet but he does appear to be on the precipice of giving up his futile and miserable stance and I feel that a couple of good tank films such as Patton or Fury and he’s gonna join us in the forums and annual events across the channel..😂 seriously though best wishes.📚🎚️👏

@osmacar5331 Ай бұрын

@@DaveSCameron american propaganda is just as bad. Look at the overall situation. Paper stats is not working stats.

@ConvetionalHeretic Ай бұрын

Jagdpanzer 4? 2000 built…

@Chris.in.taiwan Ай бұрын

Guess they don't have one.

@ConvetionalHeretic Ай бұрын

@@Chris.in.taiwan 😥

@gew43 Ай бұрын

@@ConvetionalHeretic rip

@williamzk9083 Ай бұрын

Jagdpanzer iv actually evolved out of the StuG program. It was supposed to be called StuG IV neuerart (new art) . The name change was pushed by Guderian but resisted by the artillery arm that operated StuG. Guadarian wanted the for panzerwaffe.

@bigmatthews666 Ай бұрын

Iv decided im calling hitler and telling him you have been being annoying.

@williamzk9083 Ай бұрын

German Language makes a distinction between “Tank Destroyers” (termed Panzerjaeger which literally means tank hunter) such as the Nashorn and “Hunter Tanks” (termed Jagdpanzer which literally means Hunter Tank). The Nashorn was a panzerjaeger with its open top and 30mm armour. The Jagdpanther was a Jagdpanzer with extra heavy armour and a bigger gun than the tank it was based on. The difference was mainly the armour but also crewing eg having a radio operator for tactical coordination

@revan22 Ай бұрын

yeah this difference is massive, with panzerjaeger being built for long range engagement and jagdpanzer being more of a close range/ambush type vehicle

@williamzk9083 Ай бұрын

@@revan22 Broadly: Panzerjaeger for defensive operations (ambushes) using the long range guns and firing from cover such as the reverse slope of a hill. They had special long range optics and were crewed by artillery men with the training to survey ranges. Their light weight made them more mobile. The Jagdpanzer like the jagdpanther were more for offensive operations due to their heavier armour.

@edelmann4388 Ай бұрын

@@williamzk9083 aeh... stugs are crewed by artillery men. panzerjäger and jagdpanzer where crewed by the infantry or tank crews, depending on the type of organisation they were placed in. while tank crew makes sense to most of you, the infantry might need some explanation: german infantry regiment had a heavy company for anti tank duty mostly deploying towed pak guns. A pak is a gun sometimes very similar to what artillery can use too - german 7.5cm field gun based on pak40- the crew still is no artillery crew. same goes for the 2nd heavy company fielding infantry gun crewed by infantry men. yes, they received special training. in replacing the towed pak with spg pak like Marder doesn't change the organization and thus the crew type. stugs as a weapon class was not seen necessary by lots of infantry officers early on and the stug initially were planned as kind of special weapon not deployed in regular infantry as with heavy company using infantry guns. tank commanders didn't see the job as one of their task too. so the artillery branch was asked to take over the new guns - stugs - and this is how the stugs ended up as artillery weapon. as this, they artillery stugs only supported but never had been subordinate to infantry or tank regiments. this only happend up from kampfgruppen level which is a combined arms approach sometimes even below brigade level. kampfgruppen always had a ad hoc character compared to the organized company/battalion/regiment/divison/... structure. brigades where used but not on a regular basis as form of organization in german army in ww2

@RichelieuUnlimited Ай бұрын

Panzerjäger is essentially just a self-propelled anti-tank gun.

@whiskey_tango_foxtrot__ Ай бұрын

The Stug and Stug Life will always be the favorite.

@drstrangelove4998 Ай бұрын

👍🏻

@jpmtlhead39 27 күн бұрын

Just the fact that the Stug III alone destroyed more allied tanks ( Armour) than all Panzer models combined,shows how good this small,cheap and deadly vehicle really was. The Stug III main gun,the 7,5 cm KwK L/48 was a modified version of the most Successfull AT gun of WW2. The High Velocity 7,5cm L/46 Pak 40. And that makes from the StugIII the Ultimate Tank destroyer of WW2. PS: despite the Gun of the Jagpanther,Nashorn or Elefant being the most Powerfull AT gun of the war,the High Velocity 75mm L/48 of the StugIII was the most Successfull gun mounted on a Tracked Armoured Fighting Vehicle in WW2.

@michaeltelson9798 12 күн бұрын

STuG’s weren’t manned by Panzer Troops, they were artillery units and wore the Feldgrun uniforms not Panzer Black.

@michaeltelson9798 12 күн бұрын

Some had a 105mm Howitzer instead of the 75mm

@jpmtlhead39 10 күн бұрын

@@michaeltelson9798 what..??!! Man,do you know what are talking abaut...??!! Artillery units running assault guns, really...??!! Iam pretty sure that you must have heard abaut a guy called Michael Wittmann, right. Do you know where he ( like hundreds other Tank Commanders) learn how to use an armored combat vehicle that moves on tracks like a Tiger Tank. Just go check it out because that "Artillery units" in charge of Assault Guns like the Stug III,is absolutely Ridiculous.

@calvinbutterworth5394 Ай бұрын

Can’t wait to visit Bovington for my second time this summer! Me and my Father are coming down from Manchester, stopping by IWM Duxford , then straight to Bovington and finally wrapping things up at the Historic dockyard in Portsmouth…. Can’t wait , my most fond memories are at museums with my dad

@brianferguson7840 Ай бұрын

I hope that you enjoy the Portsmouth dockyard. I worked for three years in my spare time to restore the Warrior in Hartlepool. Sadly there is nothing at all on board to tell the story of its keel up rebuild largely by local volunteers in the North East.

@darreng745 Ай бұрын

You will love Bovingtobn, not been sincelalst october so need to go again and see what has changed and also get into the Vehicle Conservation Hall as that has limited opening hours

@davidmartyn5044 Ай бұрын

Duxford is a massive must do. Allow plenty of time to see it all!

@osmacar5331 Ай бұрын

Sounds like a fun week.

@derekp2674 Ай бұрын

If you are heading down to Portsmouth, you might also enjoy a visit to the Royal Armouries artillery museum at Fort Nelson.

@0809saline 23 күн бұрын

I really enjoyed this - love the colour highlights to draw attention to hatches etc. Well done !

@yyz4761 Ай бұрын

4:40 The pak 43 is astonishingly massive

@donaldatherton319 24 күн бұрын

How many men would it take to maneuver it into a position? Probably impossible.

@charlesangell_bulmtl 23 күн бұрын

Kruppstahl was centrifugally cast👍

@chinocracy Ай бұрын

While some think the technology of tank destroyers made them successful, I'm more of the mind that technology will only be as good as how one uses it. What makes German tank destroyers like the Stug 3 so successful? Ambush tactics. And that's a no-brainer, when you're laying the ambush, you're likely to be the first to land a hit. The low profile does help though in making the ambush easier to do. Reminds me of a page in Ian V. Hogg's old Tanks book which compared German and British tactics. The British liked the cavalry traditions of dash and bravado, so they get chopped up in combat. The Germans use their tanks to draw enemy tanks to the anti-tank guns in ambush, so they do the chopping up.

@bobusamogus Ай бұрын

ambush tactics, decent armor, decently powerful gun, also soviet doctrine helped

@Blockio1999 Ай бұрын

One of the few channels I've got the notification bell on for. Even having been in this rabbithole for many years at this point, there's always some new tidbit you learn from these

@Claymore5 Ай бұрын

Brilliant as always - excellent, enthusiastic and knowledgble presentation as we always get from Chris!

@wingnut71 29 күн бұрын

Jagdpanzer is my favourite since I built a model of one 40 years ago. My mate got the T32 instead. Ah to be 12 years old again.

@jarmokankaanpaa6528 24 күн бұрын

Note the Finnish "Sturmi" Ausf. G on parade in Enso in July 1944 at 22:07, the loader's machine gun doesn't look like an MG 34, though, but rather a Russian DT (Degtyarev tankovyi) which the Finns mounted on StuGs because it used the same ammunition (7.62x54R) as most Finnish rifle-caliber small arms. Finland bought a total of 60 StuG III's in 1943-44 and they were in use as training vehicles into the 1960s; I recall seeing a couple in the Independence Day parade in Helsinki around 1966.

@gansior4744 Ай бұрын

its quite amazing we get this professional Museum content for free

@davidrobertson5996 Ай бұрын

New Tank Museum content, yaaaaassssss! Also tank destroyers, one of my favourite subjects.

@DropB3arZ Ай бұрын

Awesome video Chris, love your passion and insights. Keep up the great work

@bassfunkypenguin Ай бұрын

New Chris Copson video? Happy days! Looking at German tank destroyers? Even better! Excellent video as always!!

@cohenworrior898 Ай бұрын

Regarding the decline of reliability of German tanks. A lot of that is the consequence of the way the war went. When Germany is on the offence, broken down tanks can easily be recuperated, repaired and pressed back into service. Obviously, this changes when Germany is pushed back. Even a broken track pin can now lead to loss of the tank. Add to that the loss of air superiority and dominance of allied artillery on both fronts . . .

@itsnotagsr Ай бұрын

Not to mention the constant air attacks on convoys, trains and factories. 👍🏻

@jsd795 Ай бұрын

Those are good points but you didn't mention the most important thing. That thing is the lack of properly trained drivers as a tank, especially one built on 30's and 40's technology, is only going to be as reliable as the man driving it. People fail to understand that most Germans didn't even know how to drive a car so in many cases they were starting from scratch with new recruits.

@dersaegefisch Ай бұрын

And the fact that to the end of the war those pesky allies just wouldn't stop lighting up the factories in which said tanks and their spare parts were produced also didn't help.

@derekp2674 Ай бұрын

Great video, I learned a lot, thanks very much Chris and team.

@ciuyr2510 Ай бұрын

One of the Hetzel engineers went to Romania long before and saw sketches of a prototype tank destroyer Ro was considering to produce for the E front, called Maresal. It was never produced afaik but he took that idea back & applied it later, producing the Hetzel. Maresal looks very similar.

@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- Ай бұрын

The Jagdpanther is by far the best looking armoured fighting vehicle.

@EndertheWeek Ай бұрын

Fond memories of my (long ago) childhood building Airfix model Jagdpanthers.

@lyndoncmp5751 Ай бұрын

Sure is. Great lines to it.

@Loki52020 Ай бұрын

By far

@garethfergusson9538 Ай бұрын

Close second for me, I think the StrV 103 is

@DJJAW11 24 күн бұрын

... There not bad, but a bit high profile(high silhouette). I'm a stug fan very much so!.

@RedViking2020 Ай бұрын

Thank you. I very interesting video and following in the footsteps of the 2 Davids is no easy task and yet you've done it and i enjoy your informative and authoritative style. You will always get your nit-pickers who want to draw attention to themselves and then you get those who add a thought,ask a directive question or offer a constructive criticism handed underarm. Very interesting and the Stugs massive kill rate shows how it was way more than an assualt gun and in fact became the most effective tank destroyer. The results and gun size sort of hint at that. Excellent video from every tankers favourite living museum. Keep up the good work!

@richardrichards5982 29 күн бұрын

Excellent historical analysis, one of the best from the Tank Museum. Why?. It is important to put armoured vehicle development, production and use into historical context, which includes vehicle design, manufacturing capability, economic power, natural resource availability and the relative positions of the various combatant nations at the time. Many youtube analysis don't or can't do this. A classic example is the current trend to bag the Panther, without reference to the historical context of the war at the time. After 1941, the Germans were desperate to force a result in the east before major western mobilisation, leading them to push new designs into battle without proper testing. This led to great mechanical problems with the early Panther tanks. Some of these issues were fixed by the end of the war. Does this mean that the Panther was a poor design? No, it was an excellent medium tank (MBT) in battle performance. Does this mean that the Panther should have 'won the war'. No, the historical context was overwhelming, no great tank or aircraft design would have changed the economic relationship between the powers. Should post war German designs have ignored the Panther concept as unsuccessful? Have a look at the lines of Leopard I and tell me that is not an upgraded Panther.

@Sabre70 Ай бұрын

Great video. Really well done

@danestormfeltz7815 Ай бұрын

Another excellent video Tank Museum!

@vr66luke Ай бұрын

Fantastic information as always

@pablogomeztorres892 29 күн бұрын

What a great piece of content!! Thanks Tank Museum ❤❤

@andrewcoley6029 Ай бұрын

Great work. Thank you

@BlokeintheUK Ай бұрын

Fantastic content!!

@rc59191 Ай бұрын

The Polish 7tp will always be my favorite tank of World War 2 but the Hetzer is by far my favorite tank destroyer. The thing just has something really aestheticially pleasing about it.

@Rendell001 Ай бұрын

Sometimes the simplest design just looks “right”…

@rc59191 Ай бұрын

@@Rendell001 I guess that's why people like Glocks lol.

@SteamCrane Ай бұрын

@@rc59191 You'll shoot your foot off!

@zetectic7968 Ай бұрын

A visit to the Tank Museum is long overdue to refresh my memory of these fighting machines.

@KRAMPUS_G60_16V Ай бұрын

Great video! Jagdpanther and Jagdtiger were truly mighty beasts. 🙂

@Tanquista120 Ай бұрын

What a great video, as always.

@DeaconBlu Ай бұрын

Fantastic video! Thank You! Much was learned here, and I’ve been a student of armor for most of my life! Thanks!

@kevindaniel7333 18 күн бұрын

Excellent video, thank you!

@tomekstanek 25 күн бұрын

Super video, thank you

@AiDecc Ай бұрын

Very, very interesting and informative material. Thank you :)

@guycalabrese4040 Ай бұрын

Super quality content!

@ihcfn Ай бұрын

Great video, thanks.

@williamdoyle649 Ай бұрын

Loved the video!

@johnlant1730 Ай бұрын

So glad Copson's back from Holiday and shifted it into high gear. Love this video. Keep them coming! :)

@kadeb2 Ай бұрын

i have never been more excited to watch a video

@patrickshanley4466 28 күн бұрын

Outstanding video

@sinclairmarcus Ай бұрын

Great optics helped a lot

@sebuteo Ай бұрын

What a terrific little film. Thanks, chaps!

@totalburnout5424 Ай бұрын

Great analysis and pictures. 👍🏻 And a fun to look at. 😊

@GraemeS-pk9cz 29 күн бұрын

The first Marder IIIs carried the Pak 36 (r), which was a rechambered (to fire the more powerful Pak 40 round) ex-Soviet 76.2mm M1936 divisional artillery piece. It also used a Pak 38 gunsight and had some other modifications. Based on ammunition expenditure, it was in 1942 a more important German anti-tank gun than the Pak 40. I understand that the Stug III did help to flesh out a shortage of tanks in Panzer divisions later in the war, but it's role largely remained as an assault gun to support infantry throughout. Certainly in that role it was widely used as an anti-tank vehicle but it is its role that makes it an assault gun rather than a tank destroyer. So perhaps the distinction does need to be made. The Stug IIIs then were crewed by artillerymen. I think I am correct in saying that Guderian wanted to employ them as tank destroyers (jagdpanzers) but didn't get his way.

@Bidimus1 Ай бұрын

Well delivered.

@donbeary6394 Ай бұрын

The Jagdpanther just may be THE best mounting of the high velocity version of the 88 like was used in the Tiger II ... Admittedly, the Stug was the most useful

@comrade_commissar3794 Ай бұрын

You think the Stug looks better than the Jagdpanther?

@PlayingWithFireOutdoors 14 күн бұрын

Awesome video! Shared.

@MGB-learning 27 күн бұрын

Great video

@robertmiller2173 Ай бұрын

My Father was a Tank Commander of a M4 Sherman, Powered by the magnificent Ford GAA V8 18 Litre, 550 hp “Grunt Engine as we would call it here in New Zealand! He was with the 20th Battalion of the 2nd NZEF, probably the most highly decorated Battalion in the British Empire with 3 VC’ s It was decimated in Operation Crusader and then turned into an Armoured Regiment fighting right up to Trieste and even then it had a go at Tito’s Commies. The 20th was a South Island Pakeha Battalion from New Zealand (Pakeha = non Māori). They (20th) fought alongside the well known and respected Māori 28th Battalion. In Italy the most feared beast was the Stug 3, and the Mk 4 Panzer. The NZ 20th suffered a KIA ration 0f 39.7%, it fought in Greece, Crete, North Africa, and as I’ve already said right up to Trieste! Go The South Island of New Zealand!

@andyc3088 13 күн бұрын

20th Battalion of the NZEF not quiet the unit with the most VC's during WW2. The Royal Norfolk had 4 VCs and 2/48th Battalion (Australia) had 4 VCs.

@rudidedog243 Ай бұрын

Great video thanks for the tanks

@kampfgruppepeiper501 Ай бұрын

Very well done video

@georgecristiancripcia4819 Ай бұрын

Very nice video

@dallasschaub6717 Ай бұрын

Good video my friend sounds like you made some changes i like it!! 😉

@Chris-mf1rm Ай бұрын

Fascinating video, explaining the bewildering variety of German tank destroyers etc. The Stug with Pak.40 was eventually supplied to Finland, where it was affectionately known as a 'sturmi' - from the original German name of Sturmgeschütz, though they used it in the role of tank destroyer against the Summer '44 offensive by the Soviets.

@arn_ice Ай бұрын

Great video. Usual suspects around but also known. And yeah I usually think of the StuG as anti tank even with the StuH42 and such. The primary role was a very good tank killing vehicle that goes against what on paper seems less capable (and suffers in some games, but also those games lack real world inclusion of infantry and other factors (many at least)). Hetzer was also great. But one wonders if the energy and materials spent on the Death Stars of other failed things could have been spent on a sloped armoured StuG III (I know of the Panzer 4 Jagdpanzer but that disrupted both PzIV and StuG production).

@emmgeevideo Ай бұрын

I never quite understood what a tank destroyer's mission was. Now I know! Thank you for an outstanding presentation.

@donaldwiller9238 28 күн бұрын

Great job 👍

@chrism2027 21 күн бұрын

Nice Video

@lagoonlane Ай бұрын

Great stuff

@_ArsNova Ай бұрын

I might already know a lot of what you talk about, but you guys make fantastic videos nonetheless. Love the work you're doing. Great scripts, great presenters, great historical footage, and real tanks to point to for everything! You guys give all the tanks a real fair shake as well. No editorializing and myths either. I really appreciate that.

@tvdb7716 Ай бұрын

Fantastic video, would have been great if we could have seen them in chronological order, or in order of their production quantities. I think that would have given a really nice perspective on the progression and would have given more opportunity for discussion of the impacts of the wider war and Germany itself on the development of these vehicles. Nonetheless, a great watch.

@user-fn1vf2og3g 21 күн бұрын

貴重な写真が、沢山あるんですね！！有難うございました。

@lucitribal Ай бұрын

It would be interesting to have a video comparing the American+British, German and USSR approaches to tank destroyers

@lyndoncmp5751 Ай бұрын

I wouldn't have wanted to be in one of those poorly armoured open topped American ones.

@issacfoster1113 Ай бұрын

US tank Destroyers on the defensive shut up German Armor in the Bulge

@StacheMan26 Ай бұрын

American tank destroyers were supposed to be a direct counter to 'blitzkrieg', small rapid reaction forces that would rush to whichever part of the line was threatened by a concentration of enemy armor to either prevent or contain the breakthrough long enough for other units to move in to plug the gap. Because of that the TD branch wanted vehicles that were fast, open topped for better spotting (they weren't supposed to stay in one position long enough for artillery to hone in on them), turreted for flexibility in firing position, and armed with a powerful gun. Or, in other words, they wanted the M18, even though lots of the units in theater preferred the interim M10 because it had armor resistant to more than small arms. The British, as I understand it, mostly treated their tank destroyers like like self towed AT guns and intended them to largely fight the same way, from ambush, just being less vulnerable to return fire and able to more quickly reposition. The exemplar here is Archer with is rear facing gun. Red Army doctrine was, again as I understand it, largely an extension of their existing artillery doctrine. All towed guns were expected to be able to be move forward behind the infantry to provide precise direct fire against point targets, including but not limited to enemy tanks, and to defend their own lines as anti tank guns if necessary (yes, even the large caliber howitzers). The various SUs just leaned harder into those direct fire roles, often at the expense of indirect fire capability, and were less vulnerable to enemy fure, to varying degrees, doing it.

@lyndoncmp5751 Ай бұрын

@@issacfoster1113 The Americans lost nearly THREE TIMES as much armour as the Germans did in combat in the Ardennes. Approximately 50% of German armour losses in the Ardennes were due to running out of fuel, mechanical issues without the resources to maintain them, a thrown track or getting stuck in a ditch etc and no supporting vehicles or troops to sort them out. The Germans were basically running on empty in the Ardennes. Still, a LOT of American armour was taken out.

@lyndoncmp5751 Ай бұрын

@@StacheMan26 Good, well explained post. 👍

@linnharamis1496 Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@HaVoC117X Ай бұрын

According to Jagtiger there are still some myths which get constantly repeaded. Its power to weight raito is not worse compared to other vehicles of the same type and role. Us T28/T95 was much slower, same goes fot the British Tortoise. Even the Churchills power to weight ratio is worse than the Jagtigers (8,7 hp/ton vs 9.7 hp/ ton). Jagtiger could maintain a roadspeed of 12.5 Miles (20 Km/h), well thats Churchill Mk IIIs top speed. The Jadtiger had a 8 Speed transmission, allowing it to make good use of its power (Chuchill just had 4 gears). The interleaved roadwheel system further reduced rolling resistance. US replaced the running gear of a M24 Chaffee with the interleaved running gear of a Sdkfz 9 for testing. The Results show that rolling resistance was up to 40% lower on most surfaces. If you watch original footage of Jagdtigers they actually move quite gently through terrain. The Bergepanthers had no issue in towing Jagtigers or recovering them. During tests the Bergepanthers +100 ton hydraulic winch could pull up a Tiger II a 35° inlcine. But of course because of the late war situation fully equipped bergepanthers were rare. But if those vehicles were in service with the allied, they probably could have provide more ARVs for sure. It was not technical issue to recover Jagtigers it was a resource issue of late war german production. Futhermore there were only 120 or 130 Jagdtigers ordered to replace the 90 Ferdinands, it was a special weapon for what if scenarios (like the russian fielding something like IS3 earlier) and creating strong points in the defensive or in the attack against heavily fortyfight positions. It was never planed to be mass produced. Relying mostly on parts which were already in prodcution, it was a far more practical solution than T95 or Tortoise which should served the same roles and followed the same concept. The success of the Ferdinand and the impression it left with the soviets can justyfy the realisation of those tanks, which did not even made up half a percent of germanies entire WWII tank production and are heavily over represented in the media today.

@edelmann4388 Ай бұрын

yes, the mobility of tigers, tiger2, jagdtiger and sometimes even panthers is often underestimated. this mostly is related to the impressive mobility a t-34 or a M18 hellcat can show on fitting surfaces (or even panzer3). still the mobility of the german big cats is adequate and sometimes surprising - i remember 2 things o this: first, n yt somewhere you can find a video where germanbig cats go up a steep slope where ussr t-34/85 and sherman struggle at second, in my hometown (germany, southern palatinate close to french border) an old man sometimes told us "young guys" about him as a boy, too young for war service, guiding a platoon of jagdtigers in early 1945 through some forrest on pathes where halftracks had troubles to follow. on telling the story he always admired the power of the machines and how easy they made their way.

@lyndoncmp5751 Ай бұрын

The footage of the Jagdtigers at Iserlohn in April 1945 show them moving along pretty nicely. Much faster than the myth tells us.

@HaVoC117X Ай бұрын

@@lyndoncmp5751 there is even footage done by the British after war on a German testing ground of this particular Jagdtiger presented in this video. Even with some roadwheels missing it was traversing soft ground, does deep wading, crawling into out of the ditches with steep banks, nocking down trees....

@lyndoncmp5751 Ай бұрын

@@HaVoC117X Yes I've seen that one. It was even filmed pivoting on the spot. Hardly the static monstrosity we are now lead to believe.

@ymishaus2266 Ай бұрын

@@HaVoC117X If you can't stabilise the gun, stabilise the whole tank. All those interleaved roadwheels were excellent for keeping the crew and the armament steady.

@mrmeowmeow710 Ай бұрын

Dang good history video 2 mega👍👍loved it

@user-xq2zn8bu9q 28 күн бұрын

Anothers brilliant video 📹 Tank Museum & thank you for sharing. Also, a big 'Hello' 👋 from Stoke-on-Trent in Staffordshire, England. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

@jasonz7788 Ай бұрын

Awesome thanks 👍

@CidFafner 29 күн бұрын

I was a conscript with the Panzerjäger when they were still part of the Bundeswehr. The Jaguar 1 and 2 vehicles were carrying guided missile systems like TOW and HOT, yet the history of the Sturmgeschütze was very much alive in the branch in the 80s.

@donaldatherton319 24 күн бұрын

What’s not to like??? Sitting in your vehicle,clean and dry snoring and farting. Surrounded by a screen of protective infantry who are dug into trenches, muddy,wet tired, rain snow or air burst. And they are happy to see you arrive. Jam tart job.

@johnstimitz2629 29 күн бұрын

I’m surprised you didn’t cover the Jagdpanzer IV using both the long and shorter barreled 75mmm.

@LionelHutz100 Ай бұрын

A great video! On my next visit to beautiful Great Britain, I will also visit you.

@brzeczyszczykiewicz4476 Ай бұрын

Love to hear more, jagdpanzer iv and stug iv are the ones tobadd here. Also, can we expect an allied TD video? From M10s to su-100s?

@AAaa-wu3el Ай бұрын

They left SU-100 as the best last treat.

@MrMaltheChannel Ай бұрын

Thanks for a great Tiger day ❤

@Rolfus Ай бұрын

Thanks

@davidlagos9877 28 күн бұрын

Magnifico trabajo de historia...muchas gracias y saludos desde Chile. gracias

@akula9713 Ай бұрын

Drag a PAK40 through mud, bushes, hedges, up hills, or stick it on an obsolete chassis and drive it around? Ooooh difficult choice😂

@donaldatherton319 24 күн бұрын

I feel most people loose sight of the fact these casement a/tk guns are a perfect way to bring an a/ tk Into and out of position. Protected from offensive artillery ,etc.;

@s1nb4d59 Ай бұрын

Great to watch,was hearing of the stripped out interiors,will we be able to see the full interiors as they were one day"?.the jagdpather was my favorite.

@jona.scholt4362 Ай бұрын

I still want to see a video on "Evolutionary Dead-Ends". I've posted asking for one before but I love the idea so much I want to suggest it again.

@koganinja100 9 күн бұрын

Thanks great video I play flames of war and have a Romanian army in the works- chose as their air support JU87’s and Stugs as their armour. Hopefully should help them out in a tight spot. Only found your videos today listened to your one A11 Matilda 1’s got some 1/100 Zvezda kits of them just because they looked good. So found your videos very good have sent them onto my Wargaming friends. All the best from down under Lewis Sydney Australia 🇦🇺

@roderickwho1983 Ай бұрын

Excellent video. I had a great time at Tiger Day.

@morstyrannis1951 Ай бұрын

It would be interesting if the video included an analysis of the cost of the various AFV being discussed. A table with the quantities of materials needed to produce the vehicle as well as the number of hours to assemble and finally the actual financial cost. I think this would go a long way to put the "popularity" of niche vehicles like the Jagd Tiger into perspective. Another interesting comparison would be the frontal area of the different vehicles in square centimetres. Obviously the smaller vehicles will be much easier to hide - would be interesting to put a numerical ratio to their comparative sizes.

@SteamCrane Ай бұрын

What I was thinking, thanks for spelling it out.

@rudidedog243 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the tanks

@robertmaybeth3434 Ай бұрын

An excellent deep dive into the German assault guns OP! I have wondered what the inside of the Jagdpanther was like for years. And i can't imagine being on a Sherman or a Cromwell crew sometime after D-Day and finding yourself on the receiving end of one. Imagine your tank platoon furiously firing round after round at a Jagdpanther only to see every single shot shrugged off like so many flung rocks by that massive plate of sloped armor.