As someone who knows HiFiman's build quality and quality control, him bending it and twisting them had me sweatin ngl

I think its weird that Sundaras arent more commonly reviewed as a gaming headphone, they seem to have every factor that would be in a top tier gaming headphone from response, to dynamics, soundstage and imaging. Its the best listening headphone under $700 and yet its never marketed as a gaming headphone.... It might not come stock w /a mic but you might as well get a mic cable for one~

You are slowly becoming an audiophile with the things you like XD And i wholly agree with it, a proper headphone with a good amp is the best option for gaming... even if i do use a razer kraken v3 hypersense too :P

I own Hifiman Arya Stealths and Focal Clear MGs, and I actually find the Sundara more enjoyable than both. Arya has more bass but much more hollow or distant mids. Treble is spicier to me too on the Arya. Clears sound absolutely incredible, but they're.... overwhelming? The dynamics are so good, but because of that- they really just throw all the sound at you. The Sundara are more tame and neutral. Some might say boring. I like them because they work for everything. I also find the sundara more comfortable than both the others because the ear pads are so soft and supple. Focal is noticeably heavier (probably because of the headband structure), and the earpads on the arya are more firm and scratchy on my skin.

Can you test the Tygr 300r

Oh wow you finally got to review these! Nice. Great vid as always. I use "higher end" headphones but I still love how the Sundara sounds, great sound and build for the price

You can try HiFiMAN XS, it is an upgraded version of sundara.

My grandad has a pair of these and I may have temporarily requisitioned them to play some atmospheric games God DAMN these are some good headphones

I loved my Sundaras. I will one day own them again.

What are your thoughts on these vs the Penroses? You made the planar magnetic comparison vs the higher end audeze but not with the similar priced Penroses

@The Techne I wasn't able to get the info from your video, so I thought I would just ask you: Between the VZR Model One and the Hifiman Sundara, which has the better imaging? Which would you use for CoD or Battlefield?

It's so weird that you'd say closed back is more immersive. Nobody else is saying that. Nobody is saying open back is more competitive. Closed back is. Open back is more immersive because the sound stage is wider and imaging is better, giving you a better since of where sounds are coming from and how far away they are. Closed back is more precise because is brings most sound into the foreground making it all easier to hear, like footsteps in an FPS for example. Open back also tends to be more accurate which is what you want want with immersive gaming, where as closed back tends to exaggerate certain frequencies, which can be a disadvantage if it's the low end, but advantageous if it's the mids or highs. Of course to be fair if your environment is noisy, if you have a loud computer or console or you live with a bunch of other people, then the script is turned on its head and closed back wins for immersion every time.

They are coming out with closed back Sundara's which you may be interested in.

Hey i just wanted to ask…between Razer Blackshark V2 X and Steel Series 3 which one is the best headset option?

Got a pair of these refurbished for $200 that I'm listening to this on. Love these headphones so far. I eq them a little bit to add some bass and it's perfect.

How does this compare to HifiMan HE400SE which you previously recommended. I bought those.

these were my entry into the audiophile world and they still amaze me like a year later. At first they sound weird and feel uncomfortable but the more you listen the better they sound to your ears and the comfort also gets much better over time. worth every penny ten times over. As far as gaming goes, open backs are the most realistic sounding, but IEMs are the best for hearing footsteps from far away and that is why most pros wear them under their gamer headphones. Headphones are better for imaging (hearing where people are coming from) so you'd think they would be better than IEMs but pros still pick IEMs for some reason. Unless you are a pro gamer you should just use whatever sounds best to you (once you have tried open backs for a few months in a quiet room) because the advantage you get from IEMS is so small.

I highly recommend the Hiffiman Edition XS too Techne, Youll love it more

How do these stack up against the Audeze Penrose/Mobius purely based on sound for gaming + music listening? I'm getting the Mobius soon but these look interesting as well.

this is great headphone. i own it know for 3 month. i can say use this with dolby atmos get a experience that you never had before. they need mix amp like astro amp is fine or go xlr or fire fly something to dive the sandura you get the most out off it

Have you ever had the Philips Fidelio X2HR and if so, what do you think of it for gaming?

This definitely has the best detail retrieval but i get better positional audio from my audio technicas

bruh everytime u slam ur hand on the table I legit feel it in my ear

great review always love watching these are your so honest, what would be the best closed back headphones for gaming

Great video as usual. It would be so cool to see one video of yours comparing open-back headphones for gaming. We have now the Sundara, LCD-GX, VZR One (not sure if this is an open-back), and the Sennheisers, of course. Stay safe.

do these heads set sound better then the audeze lcd gx for gaming?

I love mine. But for music only. For gaming, I don't like them that much. It doesn't emphasize the sounds I want enhanced, and they're heavy.

You fucking did it my boy! I knew you’d come thru Techne I was harping you about this one, thank you sir I appreciate everything you do! I own this and love them, put they absolutely require an amp, without it they don’t sound half as good or have the volume.

Yo Techne excellent review! please review asus rig strox headset, h1 and h3 as well.

I shared that experience when I tried to game with an open back headphone, Philips shp9500. Sounds great, but everyone can hear my game lol

Hello The techne ! have you seen the new steelseries nova 7p and 7x ? 1p and 1x ?

Yeah, I love em but just for music. Its like having a (heavy) radio in your head even my friends can hear my headphones through discord from time to time... They are pretty expensive and need an amp so I believe they are not very good for gaming in general but yeah, they sound amazing no doubt of that, specially with a little bit of EQ.

Will this give a better edge in foot steps for games like csgo an valorant

I have the Sundara and I use them for music mostly. I tried them once with Insurgency Sandstorm and they did not sound right to me. Maybe I was just too used to my Fidelio X2HR's. My main currently has been the Audeze Penrose with the Techne wicked cushion mod of course!

Guys how are these compared to HiFiMan HE400SE for gaming? I usually play compeitive fps games like Valorant/CS:GO

Ive been watching your videos to figure out what the best wireless headset for gaming under $250. Close back. I play alot of fps.

what is the nest gaming headset for pc in ur opinion??

Ehi Techne why don’t you play Elden Ring??? Anyway will you choose HiFiMan or VZR??

Sundara needs an amp, a decent amp. It's great for Hifi music, but i won't recommend it for gaming

Yo first of all nice Quality Videos u got there , keep up the good work :). Love ur videos. Could you please do a Logitech g432 vs Hyperx Cloud 2 Wired , i cant wrap my head around ... i want to know if i should change to the Hyperx Cloud 2...

Get the cheaper model for around $100 if you want to give planar magnetic tech a try. Also, to get the most from planar magnetic you need to give it plenty of power.

great video. i feel the same about my HE400i

Techne hates when people say open backs give you a competitive advantage. I hate subjective mumbo jumbo words like "immersion" when reviewing tech. We all have our quirks. 😉

Theyre mid for gaming at best. Low end rolls off way too early, soundstage is fine but imaging (picking out where footsteps are around you with pinpoint accuracy) is behind a dozen cheaper headphones.

i got my sundaras last week it is the most comfortable headphone i ever have owned. off course they are heavy but it is well balanced, and dosent hurt my head as bad as my 1770 did. i love them. you gave me an near heart attack when you banded that headphone so bad, i would never do that to mine

What aout the Beyerdynamic - DT 700 Pro X ? Why are these not in here?

Other people say nooo it sucks for gaming... As an owner of this headphone for a year now I can say most negative stuff people say about these is complete hogwash. Use them for everything and they perform exceptionally well. I don't regret buying them whatsoever and after a year of almost daily use the earpads are still in good shape they really haven't compressed at all, the drivers have not failed and the headphone has not fallen apart in my hands as so many people like to claim. Had significantly worse experiences with Beyerdynamic like honestly they are junk compared to the Sundara maybe the DT 900 PRO X are an improvement but the frequency responses curve of that looks a bit meh and none of Beyers headphones are really fully open which is something I 100% want. Yes there is some play in the headband of the Sundara that wasn't there when I bought them new but I don't know about that for sure... its not affecting anything though. I might buy some replacement pads soon just to have them and to see if they improve the sound. The problem is this headphone sucks you into the Hifi World which means spending 200$ on a Topping DX3 Pro + and 70$ Tripowin upgrade cable. Because they really need a 200$ Amp to reach their full potential 😅

Hey techne what is the best 75% keyboard right now?

So closed back is better for competitive?

Actually they're not. The directional imaging is mediocre at best. Separation, detail etc are great, but that's not what you need for competitive fps. AKG K 240 is far better for example.

Do you get a sound from a dsd or cellphone

Do I need an amp for my sundaras?

What do you do with all these headsets after you review them? You must have a never-ending supply of headsets 😂

are you using a dac/amp with this or plug it straight into the console? thanks

Another amazing video

Which is better, this or Arya?

been using them for gaming for over 2 years now.

Arya stealth or lcd-gx 4 gaming?

Can these be powered by ps5 controller,working properly without an amp.many thanks.

I upgraded from akg k7xx to sundaras. Running then via an evga sound card into an ifi zen can amp. LOVE them for gaming and tv shows.

LETS GO!! Use open back for the competitive advantage! Confirmed by Techne. Also everyone gets to enjoy the game with you. Even though you are fully immersed and not paying attention the them, they can hear everything you can. Like regular speakers , but you wear them on your head! Lol in all seriousness looks like a nice headphone.

will my Cayin RU6 run these off ipad mac..?

Hello. I really have a headache to buy a headset and i need your recommendation for you as a reviewer or a viewer of your who owns a headset at the requirements i will say below: My budget is around 80 bucks . My headset cushion got wrecked after 1.5 year of gaming it was at 23 bucks it had one of the best mics i have ever witnessed for real on a gaming tag headset (Zeroground keiji) . My requirements are : Decent to good mic,good sound ,Good ear cushions not searching for headset at 2 years and the most basic for me is the usb connection. Thanks for your time and sorry for my pretty bad English cause it's not my native language. If i had unlimited budget i would buy audio technica mx 40 with a hyper x solocast or razer seiren but my budget is limited

Which is better thought this headset or the EPOS H6 Pro

what about the epos h6pro ? comparison

which is best in overall sound? sundara vs audeze mobius?

Hifimans are just excellent headphones no matter what your use case is. Loving my Anandas for both music and gaming.

I just can’t get behind circular headsets. Our ears aren’t a circle, so they never feel like a good fit to me.

Corsair hs80 or G pro x

How much better sound quality compare sony mx 1000xm5 headphones both are flagship headphones

You can finally say audeze😉🤣

I have them for Years , Build quality is not Good. My cable broke, The pads are glue off i am on a third pair of pads, And also there is unbalance on L+R channel on most Sundara that i know.

Nova pro wireless or Astro A50?

did you test it for many hours??

I believe Sennheiser HE-1 is great for gaming too.

Those are heavy. Just get the HD560S.

HD 800s?

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Only interested if they’re “Stinkin Cozy” …🤔