Reese says how he always wondered what was on Sarah's mind when the photo was taken....at the very end we learn it was Sarah eulogizing Reese. That to me is the heart of The Terminator.

I personally loved Salvation. I think the story was great, we finally got to see the apocalypse war, see Connor try and save Kyle Reese

I agree with you labeling T1 as a horror movie. I once had a vivid nightmare about being pursued by a Terminator; this was the single most terrifying dream I’ve ever experienced. A large, bullet proof robot relentlessly hunting you specifically down is an absolutely dreadful scenario.

The Terminator lore has always been constructed with great depth & consideration, which is why I find it crazy that only the first two films succeeded with the concept & story so well. I like the third one too tho.

I love this video. I just wanted to point out though that in Terminator 3, the female terminator was not going after his ‘friends’ but individuals who would grow up to be his lieutenants and other major players in the resistance. John is like in is early 20’s while several of the people she goes after are teens (working at a burger joint; at a house party). I think it’s better that he doesn’t know them and that there isn’t any emotional connection between them and John. They were kids just living their lives who would grow up to help change the world. Its really messed up…entertaining though

I agree I always thought salvation was way better then the bad press from people. I always thought it was a great call back to the first 2 and continues the story. I agree the weapons missing is a issue.

The Sarah Connor Chronicles was awesome, with a few slower moments, but I found those moments filled in the character development well. Lena Heady was a fantastic successor to Linda Hamilton and loved the direction the series was going. Was gutted when I found out it was cancelled (stupid Fox) and a review of it would be great!

I like that they gave John a wife. It actually makes him vulnerable and gives him more motivation to win. It makes him more relatable and shows us that he's still only human

I think John distrusting Marcus was because of the future of Terminator 3 where a Terminator came in looking like the infamous T-800 killed him and Kate reprogrammed it and sent it back. So I could see John being non trusting of Terminators after that in Salvation. Also I think that Skynet was developing the Fased Plasma Rifle with a 40 watt range, therefore in Salvation the guns were still from the 2010/2020 era with no lasers yet, til Skynet developed it and gave their machines major upgrades. I think the resistance was destroying some machines and taking their lasers and plasma rifles.

Salvation takes place years before the future that’s shown in the first 2 movies. During salvation Kyle is still super young and the T-800’s are just being developed. That’s why there’s so many older models in the movie.

The first timeline we see in the first movie is really the second timeline. The first timeline was an unseen one.

Terminator 1 and 2 are my childhood! I love these movies so much. Thank you for making this breakdown.

I feel that the Terminator universe is the trajectory we’re headed in, and it’s one we’ve been on for a long time. But instead of facing off against artificial intelligence, humans will be fighting each other - the machines will just help facilitate that. Remember, “it’s in your nature to destroy yourselves”, and humanity is just that divided to battle a common enemy.

Please do a video on the show! Like you mentioned I was a teen when this show came out & still to this day think the show deserved another season. Lena did an amazing job playing Sarah and I think it had the better storyline after the events of T2 compared to the movies.

I love the first two Terminator movies but rewatching them gets really eerie with all the AI advancements we're getting lately, I hope James Cameron isn't like the Simpsons writers where he can predict the future because now we're only 6 years away from the apocalyptic setting of the first Terminator movie let that sink in 😳😂😅

Terminator Salvation is a great movie. I know alot of people didn't like it. But it was done well. No time travel needed and it was still pretty well the begining of the war with the machines.

Actually, Genisys is not a sequel to Salvation, since it bases its premises only on T1 and T2 (Judgment Day happens in 1997; John finds Kyle while he's still a kid, not a teenager). Even on the writers' admission, it totally disregards anything that came after the first two.

22:52 omg this is one of my favorite actors. His death is so sad... Rip Anton Yelchin. I knew him from Odd Thomas which was a great book and movie. He was also good in Fright Night, as you said he was truly an underrated actor. Also if havent watched Odd Thomas watch it.

from x-men to terminator to the walking dead, ur really one of my favorite utubers

Both my parents are fans of these movies and I grew up watching Terminator 2 many times and I remember everything that happens in it.

I understand a lot of the problems people have with the Terminator franchise in general and I don’t blame them but for me Terminator will always be apart of me because I too was introduced to Terminator when Salvation came out back in 2009 and when that happened I fell in love with the Movies, the show, the comics, action figures and Terminator Resistance is such an underrated game.

Sarah Connor Chronicles was amazing - watched it for the first time last year

The Sarah Conor chronicles was always one of my favorite terminator stories especially since salvation was the last thing before that felt different and was a rehash like genesis, ironically it was genesis that got me to like terminator 😂. The only thing they can do now is make a movie where it erases everything and some how starts the original story of 1-3, or they could show the end of the war where the humans and the machines actually make peace because like you said they’ve never actually done that part.

I don't think John is confused that Marcus can have human feelings or a flesh sheathed Terminator exists. I think he's just confused because it's not supposed to happen yet. This whole film he's unsure of the future his mother had laid out and if things are playing out as she had heard from Kyle and he has heard from the Terminators he's encountered. The appearance of Marcus, a Terminator that's never been mentioned by her or Kyle and how he is a flesh sheathed terminator compared to all the rubber skin ones in his current timeline. Not to mention he was totally passing for human up until the mine, which would be scary af because Terminators at this point have an uncanny valley behavior and Marcus passed every human social test. Also probably makes him think maybe they lost the war in the future and skynet has sent yet another terminator back to ensure success. I mean it's happened through his whole life at this point. That would also place a lot of doubt on him if he's ever actually going to win. In a weird way, him seeing the Arnie T-800 was reassuring.

Furlong did loads of other really good films after T2, with really good performances too.. In Pecker he's excellent. In Animal Factory he's great. In American History X he's pretty phenomenal. The reason, as far as I can make out. Which is 100% plausible. Why he went on a downward spiral was because his agent, or an agent molested him.

I truly believe if the fame and ridicule didn't get to Furlong, He would have remained John Connor throughout the series.

Great video! One thing I need to push back on tho: In Salvation John is not surprised that a machine would act human. His shock comes from the fact that Marcus is obviously a machine but 100% BELIEVES that he is human. That is something he has never experienced before. He literally says this when he is talking to Kate.

Yes yes yes, agreed! I love Salvation so much; it’s the one where we actually get to see the future. Also love how they incorporated Kyle, John & Marcus. And when Kyle & John meet omg chills. Also agree with your T3 review. People just shove it away, but it was actually good, nothing groundbreaking like you said, but good! The ending was what did it for me. The hopelessness with the music and Kate holding John’s hand always tugs at the strings.

Funny enough that my worst impression of a Terminator movie is your best but for me Edward Furlong always was John Connor as I saw Terminator 2 - Judgement Day in the cinema as a kid. Twice. I practically grew up with it. I even had seen the first movie in advance. I loved T2 and still do! ❤️ 😅

The best way to describe the multiverse is how Avengers Endgame and Back to the Future 2 explained it. You create another timeline when you go back in time. Even Reese mentions "possible futures" in the original Terminator film. The reason why later Terminator films had different actors playing John and Sarah, is because there from the multiverse. The same time travel rules still apply there however.

T2 is one of my all time favorite movies. It's practically perfect. Thank you James Cameron! I loved the first one too. The 4th one is pretty good. RIP Anton 😢 he was definitely great. Edward did a great job as John, I also liked him in other movies. It is really heartbreaking what happened to him. The worst John Connor was Nick & Jason. I also hated that they made him the bad guy too. What also kills me about movies in general, is when they don't even try to make John look like he could be the same person at all.

loved this!!! Terminator 1 & 2 are some of my favorite films of all time and i really liked your insight on what didn’t work in the films after those.

Linda Hamilton in T2 was a badass with obvious PTSD and trauma, Jon at several points has to be the "parent" but it doesn't take away from Linda Hamilton being a strong character. This is what modern writers forget that a hero needs some flaws otherwise there is no stakes.

HUGE Terminator fan here. Really quick: Terminator: Resistance, the 2019 video game, acts as if only the first 2 movies happened. We accept it as a cannon side story, as it greatly respects the source material. ALSO, Terminator anime series coming to Netflix, with a MA rating. So there is hope... haha

I was a kid riding my scooter down the street when they filmed T3. It’s the scene where the Terminator kills the cops & does a U turn. I’ll never forget that.

The first 5 films all do fit in together. Up until Kyle time travels in 5 everything lines up. So really the only film with no explanation for not fitting is dark fate

I loved that tv show so much. Im still sooo mad about it being canceled.

I feel the reason why John Connor was confused when he met Marcus was because terminators need to learn on order of them to feel and look like a human while Marcus looked snd felt like a human right off the bet and let not mention the fact that Marcus has a human heart

Underrated video. Always nice to see someone talk about the terminator franchise.

@ 21:28 I remember being in the theatre with my brother and him saying “hey! That OG Triple OG” lol (Friday After Next Reference).

Sarah Conner Chronicles please

For what it's worth, I believe Arnold was interested in being in Salvation, only he was governor at the time, so he wasn't able to do it. Superimposing his head onto a younger body builder for the factory scenes did make a lot more sense though. I don't think an aged Arnold stepping off of the assembly line would've made much sense lol (yes, I know the script would've likely changed to fit him in in a way that makes sense, were he able to be onset). Rise of the Machines was my childhood Terminator film, and to this day I still have a lot of nostalgia for it.

First time with your channel and really loved this video. It shows a lot of love to the franchise, showing the successful elements of the movies that aren't received as well as the first 2. I personally liked Salvation, love is perhaps too strong a word. But I liked what they tried to do

Terminator: Resistance did an excellent job at bringing back the old T1/T2 atmosfear (yes, "atmosfear") of the Terminators, the decrepit & torn down cities, the survivalist environment. Maybe we don't need a new movie or reboot (yet), but to revisit the Terminator Universe through a different lens. Waiting on a sequel to the game, too! 🤞

I loved the TV show, so I would love for you to do a video about it.

I thought this video was a great breakdown of all the movies, and it explained them very well! I have yet to watch Salvation, and i’m planning on watching it soon because it actually looks good. Just because critics say a movie is bad doesn’t mean it actually is. I thought Dark Fate was good because I liked that they brought back two of the original actors, but the story was kinda yeesh. I love the stories of the first two movies and the characters too. T2 is my favorite out of all of them, and my favorite movie in general. I’m hoping to re watch the first two soon too. I recently also watched the SCC and I absolutly loved it! I wish they had made a 3rd season.

45:15 I love The Sarah Connor Chronicles. I just recently gave it a rewatch. To me, it was the direct continuation to Judgement Day. Leaving it wide open was heartbreaking. I agree they should do a conntinuation of the series. Sadly, the cast, imo, were essential so without them, it wouldn't be the same.

Big fan of the films and TV show, and now of this channel. Well done, here's my subscription. One thing though. It's been a minute since I've seen Dark Fate, and I'm not* actively fact checking, but wasn't the Big Bad to replace Skynet in this film named Legion? You called it Origin twice and made me do a double take. I could be wrong, if so... Please roast me.

This series started going downhill after part 4. That's where the time travel aspects started to not make sense. It really should have ended after Judgment Day when the parts from the original Terminator were destroyed, the chip in Arnold's Terminator destroyed, the death of Miles Dyson, etc. However, I get that Judgment Day itself was inevitable and essentially only postponed. I get that! However, it did sort of kill it for me to know in part 3 that John would eventually die in the war, and his wife would take over, which is why the 3rd Terminator came back to destroy not only him, but his wife AND their lieutenants. It still made sense, although Nick Stahl and Claire Danes had absolutely NO chemistry in the film whatsoever, and I'm not sure if the mismatched casting was done intentionally or not. Moving forward, Salvation was weird being that we're finally catching up with the future where John Conner is actually older than his own father, who hadn't been born yet during the events of the first 3 films, which causes for a huge suspension of disbelief, but whatever. However, after that, it just continues to get more and more stupid with Skynet, which technically is not even supposed to exist in the future at this point, but is still somehow sending more Terminators back. And Dark Fate was just to appeal to "woke" and progressive crowd, which was just ridiculous. I think that by then they had given up on story continuity and started just making unnecessary sequels to get money. Don't get me wrong, Genisys was the absolute worst out of all the films, but Dark Fate really plays with our intelligence. They didn't even bother to make it make sense. I would love to know how Skynet, the original system that sent these Terminators back in order to save itself from destruction actually ended up undoing its own creation, and has been somehow superseded by Legion, which is the far more superior AI system, but neither Kyle Reese, John Conner, the original T-800, or the T-1000 (The more advanced model) knew that when they went back to 1984 or 1991. What the hell? Why even bother to get rid of the 2nd T-800 who was actually protecting John if Legion was only going to send in a Rev 9 to off him instead? It's funny how John himself did not know that when he reprogrammed the T-800 and sent it back from the future a second time, with absolutely no upgrades to make him more effective, I might add. After all, we are talking about AI and time travel. What the entire hell?

Love how Robert Patrick keeps his eyes open while shooting at the mall

It was fun going down the timeline with you on this video. I was a very big Sarah Connor Chronicles fan. I own the two series. It was cut way too short. I'd love to see you watch them and go through it with us.

I didn’t believe Danny. A small Mexican girl from nowhere with no training just happens to lead the resistance? That lady from live die repeat would have been believable. I would have made her something from a military family rather than a sweet family girl.

I stopped watching after terminator 2 because for me the series ended there.

This is the best review of Genisys I've seen. I am so glad to see someone not hating it! I am very sad we didn't get to see this story pan out.

This was a very well put together video. One minor issue I noticed is that the operating system controlling the machines in Dark Fate was called Legion, not Origin. Sorry to be that guy, but I am just being helpful. As for my experience with the franchise? Terminator is the franchise I care most about. I own each movie multiple times, own the Sarah Connor Chronicles and Terminator Salvation: The Machinima Series on DVD, own multiple NECA figures, have played a few of the games, I have even written a few analysis and essays on this series. I practically used to live and breathe this series. With that said, with Cameron proposing a idea for Terminator 7, and Arnold announcing he won't 'be back', I really would only want two options for this franchise to continue at this point. 1) Continue/conclude The Sarah Connor Chronicles. The fans would appreciate it, and it is an critically underrated series, as you mentioned, that deserves an proper ending 2) do an crossover with the other big man vs machine saga, that features religious subtext, characters wearing black leather and shades, and an lead actor known primarily more for his skills at action rather than his acting skills. That's right: do a crossover with the Matrix. Couldn't you imagine it? The resistance and the residents of Zion fighting off Terminators and Sentinels? Neo fighting off multiple Terminator models? Neo and John Connor teaming up? I mean, yeah, it could be ridiculously complicated to pull ALL of that off, but it could be really cool too. The idea is so good, it's why NeoConnor1 is my username on KZfaq. I rather James stick to Avatar, as I huge fan of those two films, but if Terminator needs to continue, those two options would be of most interest to me, especially crossing over with Matrix.

Another fantastic video!

My dad took me to see t2 when i was 3 years old. I vividly remember being scared shitless by the scene where sarah is screaming on fire and yelling by the swing set. I refused to play on swings as a kid after that

I freaking LOVE the use of practical effects of the 4th movie.

In Terminator: Salvation, I chalked up the fact John is surprised by a machine acting human is due to the fact he had to personally teach a machine to be human when he was a kid, years pass and small details escaped his memory and not to mention in T3 he was warned that his emotions to his boyhood experiences would get him killed in 2032 so Salvation started him as being emotionally disconnected, hence he told his people to destroy the captured Hydro-Bot instead of trying to reprogram it. Also, Marcus' story was supposed to be he replaces John as leader because John would die and he'd have John's face grafted onto him, but this was scrapped last minute. Hollywood doesn't get the franchise, that's why 1 and 2 were successful bcuz if Cameron LET Hollywood have their way with the 1st film, it woulda had Terminator-dogs and the movie wouldn't be as memorable. Fans still want more from the franchise, just so long as it makes sense and fits the lore. BTW, X-Men Days of Future Past was made BECAUSE of Terminator. Both the first Terminator and the comic Days of Future Past were conceived at roughly the same time and the DoFP director asked Cameron for advice on Time Travel when making the film.

love the mention of Terry Crews in Salvation haha

Great vid as usual

Hope I’m not too late about this. Just subscribed to you, you do great reviews of franchises. Can’t wait to see more. 32:00 back you thought about John Connor being the villain in genisys, even another YT channel, Nogalstic Critic wasn’t surprised he turn to a villain for the actor, Jason Clarke, wiki said he will often be the Antagonist. In the original script in Salvation ending, Marcus was supposed to replace John Connor by replace his face to John and also for John got stabbed in the heart by T-800. So Genisys could be alternate timeline where they did that where it make more sense why he got turn so easily for he was machine all this time.

Had to chuckle while watching this! During your review of Genisys you said the movie is about our over reliance on technology. I realised I am watching this on my laptop whilst playing a game on my phone, scrolling through facebook, the husband playing his playstation and the robovac going round hoovering for us XD hahahahahaha

Terminator 4 was my childhood movie too, watching it right after this video!

2 minutes into this and im already a fan. Can't wait to check out your content.

Respect man your channel your way my friend

TSCC and Terminator: Resistance (2019 video game) imo are the best pieces of terminator media after the first 2 movies

Great video!

Excellent video

I agree with all your stances on these movies , rarely I align with others in media taste. Cheers

Nice video. I really enjoyed your take on these movies.

Excellent video. I'm overly familiar with the first two films having watched then countless times but only watched the others once and couldn't really remember them. Time to dig them out and rematch I think.

35:29 Legion, not Origin, is the name of the machine system that tries to destroy mankind in Dark Fate.

"my channel...what I want" Hell yeah! 👍

I actually liked Dark Fate. The line that Sarah delivers toward the end is awesome and fits her so well. “Because we’re not machines, you metal Motherfucker!”

I kinda find T3, Salvation and Dark Fate to be over hated. They’re no where near as good as the first two films but they’re still entertaining.

You should read the Salvation Final Battle comic. That is the true ending of the T3/Salvation timeline. Either a live action movie adaption of that or a continuation of TSCC are the only things that could possibly save this franchise imo.

Something that most people don't recognize is that Robert Patrick never blinks in any of his takes as the T1000 in T2.

Finally Someone who thinks Salvation is a at least DECENT movie!

Terminator Salvation is nostalgic

I think the T-800's and T-1000's respective entrances made it clear Arnie is the hero due to 'Bad to the Bone' playing in his entrance, even if the trailer didn't spoil it.

I really enjoyed the 1st and 2nd terminators. I also think 3 was great because the movie itself was on par with the previous releases, but the ending was genius. They actually had the balls to go through with releasing the nuclear war. It capped this trilogy perfectly. One thing each of these first 3 terminator films did brilliantly was this: the terminator caused chaos in the modern time. Explosions. Fires. Ineffective emergency response. It was as if the terminator from the future was recreating the chaos of the future, on a local level, in the present. We got to glimpse what the future was going to be like. I didn’t get this sense as much from the later films.

Dark fate is underrated and the third best terminator movie in the franchise.

Personally, love the first movie so much with the entire "show, don't tell." It's so good, other than the whole hindsight is 20/20 thing LOL

T2s John Connor is my favorite and seeing what he was turned into breaks my heart. Just goes to show how terrible people can be to others.

26:35 OOOH good for you, goooood for you!!

Definitely do an episode on the Sarah Connor Chronicles.. loved that show

I like T1 T2 & Salvation dassit....brad fiedel doesnt get talked about enough as a composer. The terminator theme is flawless. The love theme is beauttiful. And he also did Fright Night. Come to me is one of my favorite themes

I'd like to see Kyle Reese's story from when he joined the resistance to the final battle when he goes back to 1984. *Terminator: The Kyle Reese Story* Or a movie about how John Connor built the resistance against the machines. Did he raise an army from scratch or did he unify various resistance organizations under his command?

I loved seeing a 60-year old Sarah Connor.

I am a germ believer that salvation is great for showing us what it’s like to be in the war. It’s one of my favourites lol

I had two ways of thinking about it, but after Dark Fate I decided that there was a single future that had skynet send back a half dozen different terminators, at the same time, to different potential key moments in the timeline with the goal of stopping john conner from ever being a resistance leader. Only really works if you ignore terminator 3, but I think we are all ok with that

I liked Genisys. I like how John has become the Terminator, I also like how in Salvation it shows how John got the face scar and how that's still there and just healed when it shows John has been taken over. It also would've been interesting if there'd been time travel utilising Matt Smith's Doctor Who but obviously that wouldn't happen but really enjoyed it and wanted to see the follow up, instead we got Dark Fate.

I loved salvation so much. I wish they would have done a follow up film.

The ONLY thing I took away from this video is that the "OOOH Good for YOU!" Meme is Christian Bale, while yelling at some poor guy on a Terminator movie set.

The biggest problem with the terminator is that if the future is bleak and a dystopia, why do all the terminators look like body builders. Literally, all the resistance has to do is look for a well-fed guy that weighs 400lbs of pure muscle.

Does anyone know what the cool synth music is kinda 2mins in when the plot is being explained? Tia Top video btw!

It wasnt that arnold didnt want to be in salvation. He was govenor at the time. Great video

I love Terminator 1 and Terminator 2! Terminator Salvation is another good movie. I saw it in Theaters and I thought it was a good movie!

I love your videos