Douglas Murray on gender, race and identity | Liddle's Got Issues

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4 жыл бұрын

Rod Liddle speaks to author Douglas Murray on his new book The Madness of Crowds, which focuses on gender, race and identity issues.
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@mjones4083
@mjones4083 4 жыл бұрын
We need more people like Mr Murray and Mr Liddle in this increasingly deranged world .
@deejarrett8291
@deejarrett8291 4 жыл бұрын
The stone age called. They want their caveman back, "M, Jones".
@bradmodd7856
@bradmodd7856 4 жыл бұрын
the world is ok, increasingly ordered, increasingly cohesive. It might be more healthy to look at it like that.
@derekbradbury749
@derekbradbury749 4 жыл бұрын
M Jones They get de-platformed.
@IanP1963
@IanP1963 4 жыл бұрын
We do !!!
@richardalvarado-ik9br
@richardalvarado-ik9br 4 жыл бұрын
It was deranged in the Middle Ages, and in the last century.....When white people ruled the globe.....LOL!!! ( WWl & WWll....more people died in the 20th century than any other because of those two events ). Napoleon, Marxian Robespierre, Queen Bloody Mary Tudor, The Wars of the Roses, The Inquisition, 1990's Bosnia Conflict.....I could go on.
@diogenes9524
@diogenes9524 4 жыл бұрын
The book is just excellent on all levels. Every sentence is telling, not a word wasted. Murray is smart without being elitist, clever without being arrogant. He is quick, sharp and not afraid, so the left see him as dangerous, and will take him down if they can. This book deserves to be a best seller.
@fainitesbarley2245
@fainitesbarley2245 4 жыл бұрын
It will be a bestseller
@pippipster6767
@pippipster6767 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Douglas
@brdrcrsr08
@brdrcrsr08 4 жыл бұрын
Read stoe, tried to be cynical but I kept reading shaking my head in agreement. Maybe I'm just easy lead . Looking forward to this one too. I like Murray he talk simple straight up sense , and I'm left wing ! But we need an non judgemental/ emotional environment where people can talk about these issues without being vilified with one label or other. Politics is in everything .
@jay70328
@jay70328 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I got the audio book version, which is read by Murray. His dry reading makes it even more entertaining
@hgvasquez6273
@hgvasquez6273 4 жыл бұрын
BoopReview That is an excellent idea. Thank you.
@ddjay1363
@ddjay1363 4 жыл бұрын
Douglas Murray is one of our gems at the moment.
@Pl89uk
@Pl89uk 4 жыл бұрын
Douglas is spot on way ahead of the curve
@loafersheffield
@loafersheffield 4 жыл бұрын
Whereas, I am waaay behind the curve. Why the sensible comment? You usually are very silly. I like silly.
@houseofzuma1033
@houseofzuma1033 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately he isn't very smart ..he looks and sounds right..but his basic intelligence isn't there.He isn't very clever either.
@sirriffsalot4158
@sirriffsalot4158 4 жыл бұрын
@@houseofzuma1033 Try writing a book about this, see how long you last in the crossfire, lol
@abigailslade3824
@abigailslade3824 4 жыл бұрын
House of Zuma well I am glad you showed some proof of your assertions.
@intranext1359
@intranext1359 2 жыл бұрын
Which Curve?
@montyburns56
@montyburns56 4 жыл бұрын
My grandad died in the Trans Wars. I've still got his medal.
@seekingsomething9026
@seekingsomething9026 4 жыл бұрын
"grandperson, bigot" - Justin Trudeau.
@Azazaazazazza
@Azazaazazazza 4 жыл бұрын
I heard he went across to the other side.
@ManInTheBigHat
@ManInTheBigHat 4 жыл бұрын
Why isn't this a two hour long interview? Three hours?
@louisefox4852
@louisefox4852 4 жыл бұрын
"I hope so, because it demoralises my enemies" Douglas Murray when talking about hoping his book sells well. Douglas, you are an absolute delight!! Intelligent, thought-provoking, analytical, eloquent, succinct - I could go on. Your book should be translated into at least 150 languages and made compulsory reading before anyone can vote, reproduce or get a job.
@angusmcangus7914
@angusmcangus7914 4 жыл бұрын
I'm off to buy The Madness of Crowds. A few clicks and it's done.
@MarttiSuomivuori
@MarttiSuomivuori 4 жыл бұрын
Get the audiobook as well. Douglas himself reads it.
@nfcribeiro
@nfcribeiro 4 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@houseofzuma1033
@houseofzuma1033 4 жыл бұрын
If the book isn't written by a scientist or engineer i am given it a miss...Unfortunately he isn't very smart ..he looks and sounds right..but his basic intelligence isn't there.He isn't very clever either.
@nfcribeiro
@nfcribeiro 4 жыл бұрын
@@houseofzuma1033 that's quite interesting really. So you reckon the voices worth hearing in what regards sociology, philosophy or history are only those of engineers or scientists. Also I'm curious to know on what exact grounds you say that Douglas isn't really very smart at all.
@HP-fn4bo
@HP-fn4bo 4 жыл бұрын
Massive crush on Douglas Murray. Love a kind, intelligent, freethinking man who’s wholly uninterested in me.
@oldmoviemusic
@oldmoviemusic 4 жыл бұрын
I feel you on that one... Douglas Murray is kind of the ideal man. Attractive and engaging on every level. He's set way too high of a standard for the straight men in my life! :D
@oldmoviemusic
@oldmoviemusic 4 жыл бұрын
@jules valentine Ha, glad I'm not the only woman out there wasting my time idealising the erudite Douglas Murray, despite the minor inconvenience of his being gay! I'm 25, and of equally low interest to him. A girl can dream, as they say! ;P
@12389Law
@12389Law 4 жыл бұрын
oldmoviemusic Meh, it's only a minor inconvenience. I say go for it!
@HP-fn4bo
@HP-fn4bo 4 жыл бұрын
I guess the best thing we can do is expose our loved ones to his works. I think one of the reasons I like him so much is that he seems to be thinking 2, 4, 7 generations ahead when most others are consumed by their ego sh*t. I’ll def give his books to my nephews as they get older.
@oldmoviemusic
@oldmoviemusic 4 жыл бұрын
@@12389Law Ha! Thanks Garrett :P
@kdemetter
@kdemetter 4 жыл бұрын
It annoys all the right people. Exactly :-)
@maxidaho
@maxidaho 4 жыл бұрын
Douglas Murray is just amazing.
@MarttiSuomivuori
@MarttiSuomivuori 4 жыл бұрын
In another interview, Douglas said that his books are not tied together in any manner. He might not think so but I see the connection. It is about the concept of reality and what is true. Mass immigration was allowed to happen with no democratic decisions. Public discussion was stifled by name-calling and the real risk of getting jail terms for speaking your mind in some countries. The same strategy is used in forcing the new religion down the throats of people. It does not matter if your argument is valid, if it differs from ours, you are a criminal. In both cases, the stuff that actually is happening loses its meaning while how you think/talk about it and who you identify it is all that matters. Good people like this and this and this. You do not like? You are bad! My feeling is that the Internet has brought in 'enforcers' or 'influencers' who have gained power far beyond their mental/moral capabilities.
@kristyann9912
@kristyann9912 4 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@Mystie01
@Mystie01 4 жыл бұрын
Silicon Valley where the headquarters of a lot of the Internet platforms are, is completely Left Wing.
@jdg9999
@jdg9999 4 жыл бұрын
We've had our countries with highly ethnocentric groups from the third world, and then Douglas tells us that native Europeans shouldn't have a group identity because we all have to be individuals? It's not a serious reply to the challenge.
@katyb6979
@katyb6979 4 жыл бұрын
Mass immigration has been a long game by a cult of supremacists to destabilise the west of all established western values. But many, while still waking up, aren't ready for that red pill moment when you finally realise who is behind all the nonsense. I long for the day when we do, and the way it's going, it won't be long...
@mogznwaz
@mogznwaz 4 жыл бұрын
I think you have made a very astute observation
@cb6171
@cb6171 4 жыл бұрын
You both have to make a longer interview , pleeassssse
@NPC-st7zv
@NPC-st7zv 4 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a6iYm66pvai0aGg.html
@theheraldinstitute
@theheraldinstitute 4 жыл бұрын
@gaza A: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d85xZqWXrM7DoZ8.html
@blobbyblob2573
@blobbyblob2573 4 жыл бұрын
I love Murray ❤️. Smart gentlemen.
@simonsmith6158
@simonsmith6158 4 жыл бұрын
"Annoys all the right people" love it
@rawprawn8198
@rawprawn8198 4 жыл бұрын
Just finished this today. What a good read! Recommend this to anybody that is looking to make sense of the current climate.
@susanastephens7156
@susanastephens7156 4 жыл бұрын
Douglas Murray , thank god for your common sense , your intellect & your ability to articulate your arguments !
@mogznwaz
@mogznwaz 4 жыл бұрын
Douglas Murray is my absolute hero ❤
@williamresham703
@williamresham703 4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Douglas. Please come to the US again on a speaking/book tour!
@louisd100
@louisd100 4 жыл бұрын
Douglas Murray is awesome !
@ghostofcato3052
@ghostofcato3052 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Murray, absolutely brilliant as usual...Bravo sir, bravo!
@hazyfoz1573
@hazyfoz1573 4 жыл бұрын
Bought it - about to read it - LOVE Douglas Murray!
@flickfi
@flickfi 4 жыл бұрын
Love Douglas and Rod.
@cailancook9720
@cailancook9720 4 жыл бұрын
Would adore an extended interview between you two.
@homeone4054
@homeone4054 4 жыл бұрын
I wish this interview/chat would go on for at least an hour
@KB5RYE
@KB5RYE 4 жыл бұрын
To know who has the power, look at who you cannot criticize.
@filipmacamhalghaidh9493
@filipmacamhalghaidh9493 4 жыл бұрын
the thing i like about murray: "oh thank god there's actually still some people who's brain works the same mine does".
@thebobbs6999
@thebobbs6999 4 жыл бұрын
I could listen to 2 hours of this guys.
@loafersheffield
@loafersheffield 4 жыл бұрын
Well I'll meet you halfway. This is good, but it's only just over an hour. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d85xZqWXrM7DoZ8.html
@anyasilka2325
@anyasilka2325 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant!!!!
@logocentric9183
@logocentric9183 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic book. Very thorough and a fun but also slightly horrifying read, understanding the state of affairs we are in.
@sabinamantel8261
@sabinamantel8261 4 жыл бұрын
people should really listen to this guy more often. I know as an EU citizen Im called racist just bringing it up. no debate is allowed on immigration in EU.
@margaretcampbell2681
@margaretcampbell2681 4 жыл бұрын
You are fantastic Douglas
@NickLitten
@NickLitten 4 жыл бұрын
Terrific interview... needed to be *much* longer!
@steverowe923
@steverowe923 4 жыл бұрын
Just finished the book...quite thought provoking.
@13c11a
@13c11a 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that Douglas didn't have to sit on that hard seat for too long. But I could listen to him for hours. He's right about everything!
@houseofzuma1033
@houseofzuma1033 4 жыл бұрын
If the book isn't written by a scientists or engineer i am given it a miss...Unfortunately he isn't very smart ..he looks and sounds right..but his basic intelligence isn't there.He isn't very clever either.
@trakrekkid
@trakrekkid 4 жыл бұрын
Every now and again you can see liddle's eyes saccade longingly towards the liquor
@tombristowe846
@tombristowe846 4 жыл бұрын
Never heard that word before, in 68 years. Had to look it up, and I consider myself pretty literate. Never to old to learn.
@tRicky198181
@tRicky198181 4 жыл бұрын
Long format please The Times, we will watch and listen to guests such as Douglas for hours. You can always release clips to gain ad revenue. Too brief but thank you, always a treat to hear mr Liddle and mr Murrays perspective.
@Tj930
@Tj930 4 жыл бұрын
Superb!
@nprentice3720
@nprentice3720 4 жыл бұрын
Douglas Murray. Brutally honest regardless of how it plays into his own subjective world. Bravo sir! If I were gay I'd give him a hug and a kiss. He would reject it. I wouldn't even care.
@katherinekirkwood9632
@katherinekirkwood9632 3 жыл бұрын
I adore Douglas he hits it out of the park every time 🇬🇧 💕 & I'm learning more & more about all he 🗣 talks about. 🇺🇸 even Boris 💕💕🎶
@pierrewave7235
@pierrewave7235 4 жыл бұрын
Two of my favourite pundits together, make it a longer interview next time.
@sumthingwickedly
@sumthingwickedly 2 жыл бұрын
Douglas is fantastic as is Rod
@Grace17893
@Grace17893 4 жыл бұрын
Love this guy
@TechToWatch
@TechToWatch 4 жыл бұрын
Why is Liddle interviewing an author about his new book without having first read the book?
@s.gharavi1614
@s.gharavi1614 Жыл бұрын
He doesn't read
@sisiphas
@sisiphas 4 жыл бұрын
Two of my favourite men
@matthewlacey5307
@matthewlacey5307 4 жыл бұрын
excellwnt lamp shade in the background. two brilliant Spectator columnists
@forfar4fife5
@forfar4fife5 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Orwell's 1984
@TrueGaming140.48
@TrueGaming140.48 4 жыл бұрын
That lamp
@theotherserge
@theotherserge 4 жыл бұрын
lukas black if you’re an American, it’d remind you of the sentimental comedy “Christmas Story” 😎
@pikasnipe1
@pikasnipe1 Жыл бұрын
WOW this was 3 years ago. And it spot on
@budnwiser0
@budnwiser0 4 жыл бұрын
i have bought both books and they are spot on, totally a good read.
@jaxrees3131
@jaxrees3131 4 жыл бұрын
Love the lamp Rod, where can i get one?
@sunnysmiles8211
@sunnysmiles8211 4 жыл бұрын
Using race, gender, and any other identity political grievances as a battering ram for brute politics. That’s the best description I’ve seen yet!!!
@kylepoma
@kylepoma 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@pebblepod30
@pebblepod30 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought a copy! And audio too, listen to in the car.
@shookone568
@shookone568 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t imagine this man is terribly popular in the UK. But he is brilliant nonetheless.
@jonsmum5552
@jonsmum5552 4 жыл бұрын
Ha ha love the lamp!
@aucourant9998
@aucourant9998 4 жыл бұрын
Where can I get that lamp? This interview was way too short.
@beatsinabar
@beatsinabar 4 жыл бұрын
Where was this filmed? I Like that "legs and a bustier" lamp on the bar - I want one!
@aosseily
@aosseily 4 жыл бұрын
God damn brilliant.
@briantrenchard8700
@briantrenchard8700 3 жыл бұрын
Ordering a copy now
@mrb4894
@mrb4894 4 жыл бұрын
Hes such a breath of fresh air, talks a lot of sense. I'm not gay but I love his smile ☺
@IanP1963
@IanP1963 4 жыл бұрын
I have wrote to Douglas a few times over issues he's a very hard man to get a reply from - yet I see him on all these progs being interviewed with the great and good. A man with a load of common sense though.....!!!!
@mfbias4048
@mfbias4048 4 жыл бұрын
This interview stopped just as it started going
@Casual-Enthusiast
@Casual-Enthusiast 4 жыл бұрын
"Rod Liddle" 😂😂 okay hilarity over, I'll now listen.
@DCI-Frank-Burnside
@DCI-Frank-Burnside 4 жыл бұрын
Murray's motivation could be summed up with Kingsley Amis's "You just notice them." Though I am intrigued enough to read his book.
@daveerwin6981
@daveerwin6981 4 жыл бұрын
His motivation is profit from dumb cunts. In an era of climate catastrophe brought on by blind capitalism, he's worried about trans and powerless minorities? Dumb cunts believe anything that'll help them justify their failure. And that's where an opportunist with a post accent steps in to line his pockets and boost his profile
@jfmm99
@jfmm99 4 жыл бұрын
I want that lamp
@TonyTony-xq2ut
@TonyTony-xq2ut 4 жыл бұрын
Tnx
@Twirlyhead
@Twirlyhead 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else fed up with those Chinese dance adverts ?
@shadforthw3535
@shadforthw3535 4 жыл бұрын
EVery time i watch a Brit interview Douglas Murray I hear them wrap it up with 'Dr. Smurry, Thank you' when I replay it it sounds completely different
@skoodlebop4483
@skoodlebop4483 4 жыл бұрын
Theil,Kanye,and Greer have all been unvictimed.
@danstewart2770
@danstewart2770 4 жыл бұрын
From whence a person's sexuality derives should not be stated in binary terms. It is best described by coordinates on a plane of quadrants where the _x_ axis runs along a line of nurture/nature and the _y_ axis along a heterosexual/homosexual line. Somewhere within those quadrants will lay most people's sexual orientation.
@kenrehill8775
@kenrehill8775 4 жыл бұрын
Douglas Murray and Tom Hollander, separated at birth.
@smokeymcpot9887
@smokeymcpot9887 4 жыл бұрын
And no personal space was respected that day.
@kunalkulkarni1775
@kunalkulkarni1775 4 жыл бұрын
Man he is a genius
@pharmagator
@pharmagator 4 жыл бұрын
ALL human behaviors are individual control.... We may not choose our tendencies, but we choose what we focus on and our behavior in response to our internal tendencies... individual responsibility and free will
@s.gharavi1614
@s.gharavi1614 Жыл бұрын
How very western of you to be so extreme. 😆
@teresarocha599
@teresarocha599 4 жыл бұрын
Douglas Murray is very much right and Europe must stop immigration and try to resolve "multiculturalism" problems and ban actions and people who do not respect the law and customs of the countries to which they emigrated.
@margaretherbert946
@margaretherbert946 4 жыл бұрын
The field of Quantitative Genetics recognizes that phenotype is the (sum of) the result of genetic and environmental factors at play during development. Genetic factors don't often account for more than 30% of the variation in phenotype for any trait. Animal and plant breeders are very familiar with this phenomenon! Read "Quantitative Genetics" by Falconer and McKay for the basic ideas. It is difficult for a geneticist to observe the politicizing and distortion of objective scientific facts! This will back up some of Douglas' points.
@JudgeHill
@JudgeHill 4 жыл бұрын
"Everything to do with trans" (proceeds to show picture of drag queen...)
@Patrick3183
@Patrick3183 4 жыл бұрын
JudgeHill83 I noticed that too.
@keithlynch7239
@keithlynch7239 4 жыл бұрын
The dark hand in brute politics.
@spartacusforlife1508
@spartacusforlife1508 4 жыл бұрын
At first i failed to understand how fringe activism, trans, gender and other such " niche" debates , where and are given such high profile news worthiness, then i realised that it is driven from universities and thus t.v. media via appointments to those university graduates in media, arts, politics. These people are a minute number with extreme views compared to the vast majority of people. Most people couldn't care less if people are trans. In fact most people go by the premise " do what you want unless it harms others". The mistake these activists make is moving to ridiculous stances of " more than two genders" or saying trans men should be able to compete in sports with women. These stupid ideas hold back acceptance of trans people and stoke a backlash in many cases
@kesfitzgerald1084
@kesfitzgerald1084 4 жыл бұрын
What!? That can't be it!
@midnaurthqua6773
@midnaurthqua6773 4 жыл бұрын
Are we not the most pathetic minority...; the sane. Do we get brownie points?😄
@adi-ik7fx
@adi-ik7fx 4 жыл бұрын
Whats with the red lamp in the backround???!!wtf
@miguellopez327
@miguellopez327 4 жыл бұрын
I love him. I want to marry him.
@Whatever4690
@Whatever4690 4 жыл бұрын
Europeans need to stand up and save themselves.
@davidalen9279
@davidalen9279 4 жыл бұрын
brilliant. too short...
@stvbrsn
@stvbrsn 4 жыл бұрын
Three weeks and they can’t fix the sync issues?
@mesolithicman164
@mesolithicman164 4 жыл бұрын
What's it about? It's about 300 pages.
@kathrynmolesa1641
@kathrynmolesa1641 4 жыл бұрын
Interviewer looks like a hot mess next to buttoned-down Murray.
@AJ-mo6mw
@AJ-mo6mw 4 жыл бұрын
Before and after rehab
@raymeester7883
@raymeester7883 4 жыл бұрын
I was expecting Adam Shiit.
@traduccionestrascendentes2771
@traduccionestrascendentes2771 4 жыл бұрын
Im currently subbing this to spanish, if the uploader wants the srt file message me please.
4 жыл бұрын
Too short!
@garyk.nedrow8302
@garyk.nedrow8302 4 жыл бұрын
Murray is one of the few contemporary writers who is willing to lift the veil on sexual politics and the PC nonsense and expose its neo-Marxist underpinnings. Most writers lack the forum for doing so, because the media is unthinkingly liberal, and they would be fired for daring to depart from the party line. Murray is wonderfully articulate here, speaking in sound bites, but he is far more nuanced and persuasive in his book. Read the book. My only reservation with Murray is that he is so apologetic about denouncing the inanity of the PC movement. The ultra-left has as its object the undermining of traditional Western values and the destruction of capitalism. That is the agenda to which Murray alludes here. The PC arguments need to be reduced to their core premises and cultural Marxism exposed for what it is. Murray devotes too much time and gives too much deference to the manifestations of the movement and spends too little time exposing its intellectual flaws and pretensions.
@rogeralsop3479
@rogeralsop3479 4 жыл бұрын
They're talking about the BBC again.
@iainrae6159
@iainrae6159 3 жыл бұрын
Love grumpy old Rod and smart youngish Douglas upsetting Yasmin Alibi Brown and other 'Guardian' bods.
@mick7557
@mick7557 4 жыл бұрын
The lamp in the background is horribly tacky
@marcpadilla1094
@marcpadilla1094 4 жыл бұрын
I don't care about the Gay,Gender,issues. I bought it for its relevance to identity politics, doublestandards, and hypocrisy,which has reached toxic levels.
@Whatever4690
@Whatever4690 4 жыл бұрын
This is the emperors new clothes.
@chopperking007
@chopperking007 4 жыл бұрын
Should have called it the looney left.
@stephendraffin5775
@stephendraffin5775 4 жыл бұрын
High Pressure Should *have* learnt proper English.
@chopperking007
@chopperking007 4 жыл бұрын
@@stephendraffin5775 thats why you have no friends...
@tommoelbommo
@tommoelbommo 4 жыл бұрын
You can talk about it. You are talking about it. You've literally written and published a book on it.
@JDela10
@JDela10 4 жыл бұрын
He means you can't talk about it without it being a detriment to your life. He even gave several examples including Germaine greer and Kanye West lol. Keep up.
@tommoelbommo
@tommoelbommo 4 жыл бұрын
@@JDela10 It seems you can - the book deal and international publisher's tour would indicate as much. Haha
@JDela10
@JDela10 4 жыл бұрын
@@tommoelbommo Douglas even says himself he probably has more room for this because he is gay lol. But what he is saying is generally true. He is not saying that people physically can't say words lol he is saying that the response they tend to get when they question certain things is the problem and effectively creates censorship of sorts. Often self-censorship as people keep their heads down.
@tommoelbommo
@tommoelbommo 4 жыл бұрын
@@JDela10 the 'response they tend to get' is a publishing deal, celebrity, and plaudits in KZfaq comments sections. Its straw men, buckets of conjecture; all playing to some weird narrative that you're culturally dispossessed and fettered.
@JDela10
@JDela10 4 жыл бұрын
@@tommoelbommo why don't you try reading the book and seeing any of his examples or even just listen to him giving them in videos like this?
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