Breaking Concrete with Battery Powered Tools: Is it Possible?

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@bryanmeeker9404 Жыл бұрын

I love Ray. He's got some serious Coach Beard vibes and I'm here for it. I hope he stays as a regular on the channel long after the home reno is finished. Keep up the great work!

@sabmy Жыл бұрын

100% coach beard

@WilliamBeech Жыл бұрын

💯 this

@CarbideEndMill Жыл бұрын

He’s good but he’s no pareau

@snakesonn3590 Жыл бұрын

are you brain dead??

@juliandodwell8213 Жыл бұрын

The original TE2000 cabled, unbeatabl!

@christophemanger607 Жыл бұрын

First of all big respect to you and Ray for doing this job in that fashion. It really looks like you either need tons of Batteries and chargers to get such heavy duty jobs done or go corded/ Fueled. I was really impressed how the Milwaukee held up despite beeing one 18V Batterie. I would've probably just stopped and go borrow a corded machine after the first day :) Love your videos, greetings from Germany

@samsboringchannel Жыл бұрын

Definitely get the digger next time! Even when it comes to loading out, a digger and small tipper for half the day will make light work of that pile down to Fulton hogan! Great to see where we're at in the evolution of tools, but agree this heavy duty stuff needs more development. Watched a video recently of a small electric excavator, 2 hour run time, then 8 hours to charge! Chur!

@TheArmouryOfficial Жыл бұрын

Scott, you have to be one of my favorite content creators here on YT. I have to admit, I try and not watch your video as soon as you upload them because I like to watch them back to back, and this home remodel has been so entertaining and inspirational. You guys always manage to motivate me out of a "maker hump." Just this morning I watched your backlog of videos since you got back from your break and was feeling kinda blue knowing I wouldn't have anything else new to watch and BOOM new video -- good timing! Thanks for all that you guys do, keep it up!

@mrpoopypants9586 Жыл бұрын

Ahh, old builders. Fill everything with concrete, use hardwood framing that will burn your drillbits out, make sure no two pieces of timber in the house are the same or standard sizes and bury old bricks throughout the yard. Oh, and don't forget the vertigo staring down the hallway where no wall line is plumb! Well, that's my place, anyway. Love seeing the real world reno. Cheers from across the ditch. Cheers PP

@frankandrews58 Жыл бұрын

Nothing more manly than two blokes smashing, cutting and jackhammering out conctrete. Then at the end Scott says....'might get a digger next time' to which Ray's reply (as he stands there absolutely knackered) was 'whats the fun in that'........GOLD

@JBrizzle99 Жыл бұрын

Full credit to you for persisting with those stairs while the Japanese were launching their air attack, that's dedication!

@MichaelArthur4eva Жыл бұрын

Would love to see some of the safety gear (masks) covered off. Gear like thst is underrated and we kiwis often DIY without or incorrect gear. Would be worth a mention of the toxicity of breathing in concrete dust. Another great video, thanks Scott

@weylandswart Жыл бұрын

I hope Ray doesn't disappear once the house is finished!

@juliocervantes7125 Жыл бұрын

I recently grabbed the cut off saw with 4 batteries and 2 chargers for a basement remodel. I cut about 60 linear feet with 4 fully charged batteries. It did the job and half the hassle. My cost was ~2k for the entire setup. I really enjoyed using the tool and most importantly make me $$$ Next buy… Nuron Rotary Hammer…. 🤔

@marB84 Жыл бұрын

Wow! Much respect for both of you. I wouldn't use battery-powered tools for such a job to begin with and you saw it through. Well done!

@sematagi9291 Жыл бұрын

great episode, I find using the pointed chisel heads more effective when breaking up concrete, less resistance than the flat heads... mind you, its still hard work.

@dengshomeinvasions1273 Жыл бұрын

Drilling a hole and then using a flat head or pointed chisel works even better.

@timwillmot4941 Жыл бұрын

This is why I like the Hikoki system as if you are doing a big job like this you can plug your battery tools in with the AC adapter and use them all day but if your out on the farm or just need to do a small task you can just whip out a battery. You only need the one tool. also there is a 21 Amp battery back pack made for the garden equipment that is awesome for this kind of thing. or you can hook it over your dropwsaw stand and it will last you days. They do have a bigish breaker but no concrete saw yet. I'm keen to see the new tracksaw in action can you ask Gaston to get his hands on one from Accent and do a review?

@gordonclark7632 Жыл бұрын

Well, the first thing i did was go outside and look everywhere for some tools and realized that I was the tool expecting to find some. Other than that, I think that this exciting episode showed that there is still plenty of things that a powered tool can do better. One thing that I thought of was the cost efficiency of using a battery powered tool for the job where the cost of all the batteries needed and then the cost of the charges and finally the cost of the electricity to charge them could exceed the cost of just using (or hiring) a specific tool from a hire depot?

@sssogo Жыл бұрын

My apprentice recently decided to splash half his wages on a hilti impact, battery and charger. I've gotta say I was really impressed with how the batteries fit into tools after whining about my milwaukee ones for the past 4 years

@Mayhem-Mechanics Жыл бұрын

Milwaukee literally has the worst fitting battery of all time. You should try makita, I use their 18v system and the batteries are super smooth.

@HotForgeChaos Жыл бұрын

@@Mayhem-Mechanics Yeah I'm not stoked at how much of a pain it is to remove an M18 battery compared to, well, everything else. However if you're noticing your battery flop about like a Kingfish in some of your tools, do not worry, that is by design

@Mayhem-Mechanics Жыл бұрын

@HotForgeChaos really cool. My makita tools have silicon inserts in the battery part to prevent the batteries from flopping around.

@Frieslick Жыл бұрын

They’re designed to “flop around” to prevent vibration damaging the cells bud. The batteries should only really fit rigidly into non vibrating tools like torches/radios/heat guns etc.

@frankryan2505 Жыл бұрын

@@devilselbowMakita gear has the battery wobble too (rotary drill/recipros)

@garycook9167 Жыл бұрын

Scott, there is a liquid you can buy and you mix it with water and pour it into drilled holes. You cap off the holes and the liquid expands, even cracking concrete. It's a start, at least!

@f.demascio1857 Жыл бұрын

I've seen that stuff used. Overnight, an entire slab was broken up.

@paulhaworth1824 Жыл бұрын

I'd like to know what that's called so I can look it up

@andrewsmith8388 Жыл бұрын

@@paulhaworth1824 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pL17g5p_vJnHYZs.html

@h14hc124 Жыл бұрын

@@paulhaworth1824 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bcmmltGc37Gcep8.html or kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o9mGZNufvJmrkpc.html

@momouppa Жыл бұрын

Expansion grout, just googled it.

@Superwoodputtie Жыл бұрын

The image of all the batteries piled up near the charger was nuts. That's like $2000k worth of batteries.

@TheOneWhoMightBe Жыл бұрын

I initially thought the batteries were stackable ie keep stacking 4ah batteries until you got the desired capacity.

@bertbergers9171 Жыл бұрын

@@TheOneWhoMightBe that's a concept to be tried!

@RFC3514 3 ай бұрын

Well, for a _commercial_ definition of "worth".

@RFC3514 3 ай бұрын

@@TheOneWhoMightBe - That's basically how they're built inside (they just a bunch of 18650-type cells), but having extra connectors, circuit boards and plastic between them would be kind of wasteful.

@loadbear Жыл бұрын

Great video, I've used the Milwaukee MX equivelant concrete saw and had the same results with battery life. I think the most useful application right now is taking door interior walls in countries with masonry builds (like here in the UK) where the fumes from a petrol saw would be unsafe/unpleasant. We are just not there yet for it to be practical.

@sniperfi4532 Жыл бұрын

As much as I like the idea of having me battery to suit all tools I think larger/high demand tools really need a specialised battery. You made the correct point of needing 4 chargers and 6 batteries to be able to run the tools constantly. It just seems that you need to spend as much on batteries and chargers as you do on the skin.

@JDAfrica Жыл бұрын

Milwaulkee has a specialist flat battery panel for their breaker/jackhammer - I wonder how it would compare

@ptortore Жыл бұрын

I like your music choices Scott. Much easier to watch than some channels which insist on heavy metal or excessive beats to accompany their vids. Keep up the good work!

@eduardocarvalho1547 Жыл бұрын

Wish I could find Easter eggs like that!🤩

@douglasvoon9981 Жыл бұрын

I think that job would have finished me off! The battery issue you guys had reminded me of my gripe with a certain Makita 36v lawnmower that I purchased. I spend more time charging than mowing and it's been in for repair 3 times under warranty so far as it kept overheating. Scott's comment about the early days of battery tools seems to apply here as well. In a few years I'm sure the battery powered mowers will be awesome!

@caveweta Жыл бұрын

You needed a bin to tip that rubble straight into, lots of double handling now to clean up the drive.

@garethbarnes2628 Жыл бұрын

Well the concrete broke before you Guys did! Great job both. Hilti could do with adding a cord option to those tools, like Dewalt did with their 12" slider.

@katrinabell7684 Жыл бұрын

Great video SBC .. it’s over too soon!! Love the Easter Hunt and views of Jess’s garden! 🐣😎🐣

@ChrisMurley Жыл бұрын

That was truly epic. I’m knackered just watching you guys!

@ImConstantlyDrunk Жыл бұрын

The batteries will take longer to go from 80-100 than they do 20-80, so the best practice is to keep them in the middle of their chemistry sweet spot by battery swapping to recharge up to that 80% again, and using them without fully charging.

@hw2508 Жыл бұрын

Its better to use them from 80% to 20% than from 100 to 0. Saves time at the charger and is better over the lifespan of the battery. However, I think most people always charge to 100% and run it as long as possible. And I would include myself in this group. It is not easy to change old habits.

@jonathonalsop2120 Жыл бұрын

Batteries should have a mode button to switch from 100%-0% and 80%-20% and default to the latter, while always leaving a buffer that can't be accessed. I'm sure many companies do have big buffers but it's not standardized.

@HotForgeChaos Жыл бұрын

Sometimes they want to be run right down though, I found my Milwaukee batteries are a bit happier once they've been run right down and charged right back up every now and then

@ImConstantlyDrunk Жыл бұрын

@@HotForgeChaos yeah I can see how that might happen too, since these multi cell batteries have pretty complicated control circuitry and it might calibrate the way it charges all by itself.

@TonyRule Жыл бұрын

@@HotForgeChaos I think that's placebo effect. You used to actually have to with NiCad because they have 'memory' but NiMH and the various flavours of lithium do not.

@DiHandley Жыл бұрын

I’ve always considered Hilti to be at the very top end of electric work tools. In some cases even better than Festool. Expensive but top quality. My opinion hasn’t changed.

@RFC3514 3 ай бұрын

In pretty much all cases, for construction (and demolition). Festool's main focus is woodworking.

@Theosplaytime Жыл бұрын

I wish I had a Ray he keeps turning up and getting shit done

@technomyke Жыл бұрын

I have some sidewalk I've wanted to knock out for a couple years. After watching this I'll procrastinate a few more years :P

@paulzirker706 Жыл бұрын

That looked hard work. Well done Scott.

@Biaanca5036 Жыл бұрын

very very entertaining to see these used on something other than tree stumps and stacked layers of chipboard :D yaaaaaay finallyyyy!

@dvs784 Жыл бұрын

Great video Scott, I myself removed a set of stairs exactly the same as your ones using a similar method using a powered Hilti breaker and a petrol Stihl concrete saw and boy it was still hard work! After watching this I think if you had a powered breaker and a petrol concrete saw it would have made a huge difference but glad you showed a true representation of where the cordless tools are at right now and your right one day, they will improve to the point of being on par or better than the powered versions. But at the end of the day, I said the same thing too.. next time I'm getting a bloody digger!

@HotForgeChaos Жыл бұрын

I probably would have gone concrete chainsaw with a 24 inch bar, get riiiiight down in there and cut it up

@markedbishop Жыл бұрын

I appreciate hard work and understand this was a Hilti sponsored video, but 10mins with a backhoe and that step is gone

@LazyCrazyGuy Жыл бұрын

Speaking on Milwaukee but I'm sure this applies to the majority of tools including Hilti. The Supercharger can charge a 12ah battery in about 60 min but if you read the manual you'll notice it says that when the green light goes steady it means it's charged at 80% and ready to use. If you understand fast chargers and lithium ion technology. You'll know that they prefer to stay charged between 40% and 70%. Keeping them within these parameters gives the battery it's full potential of lifespan. Now I know this isn't ideal and especially when you need to get work done but hear me out. Fast chargers usually charge from 1% to about 50% at the fast rate at which point it slows down to a normal rate. When the battery reaches about 80% - 90% it will slow down to a slow charge rate. Which means if you can just use a timer and set it up for half the time or less you have less down time as the second half of battery charge slows down significantly and that is where all the wasted time is. If I were you I would just charge to 70% - 80% and use it up instead of waiting for it to charge fully at the very slow rate and decreasing battery lifespan as it doesn't like being fully charged anyways.

@holbroak Жыл бұрын

I love the combination of ballet music with concrete breaking. I've done concrete breaking in the heat of summer, in the bottom of a 5 metre-deep sewage treatment trough. Still preferred it to dancing figures 😵

@christringrove3448 Жыл бұрын

You guys got stitched up, as a concreter the amount of time it took to pull those steps out was painful 😂

@Jussi_Huhtiniemi Жыл бұрын

I have to do my easter egg hunt every time I'm away from the jobsite and someone decides to borrow one of my hilti tools

@eggsy5767 Жыл бұрын

Love watching you guys. Hope Ray stays and be on every videos.

@QALibrary Жыл бұрын

wow - were these steps built to WW2 bunker specification - looks like they were built to outlast even a nuclear war

@johnrabidou604 Жыл бұрын

love the videos scott. i would love them to be a bit longer. :)

@bobbushca797 Жыл бұрын

Just love Rays dry humour ,he is a classic , As for concrete breaking you cant beat the 15 year old cheapskate ozito breaker . cant kill it and no one pinches it .

@yingle6027 Жыл бұрын

What you need is a battery powered digger

@perrymaxwell4488 Жыл бұрын

As a person who has had to chip enormous quantities of concrete by handheld battery, air, and chorded tool, my advice would be to skip the cutting on the stairs. People also like to drill multiple swiss cheese holes with a rotary bit too. It's all taking away from your time to chip and doesn't offer a net gain in time. You have 3 open sides for the concrete to chip away from the original mass which is ideal. For the slab, I'm sure that concrete didn't like cracking when you slammed it with the sledge, so multiple scores were probably necessary to help it along. However in newer concrete, once you have a section (channel) removed end to end, cracking with the hammer is way faster than chipping or scoring when it's less than a 6" slab. Also, and I understand there are probably constraints as to what was available to you having borrowed that set up, but a chipping bit with more of a point and less of a chisel would increase your productivity due to less surface area being driven into the concrete. Especially against that old stuff I'm sure that bit was nubby by the end of that project. One upside to charging the batteries is that it gives the bit time to rest and not overheat and snap. Obviously more productive to have multiple bits to swap in and out like a SAW gunners barrel. I had a few endless days of using bushing bits to remove an epoxy coating form a concrete slab, and I would snap multiple bits a day. Luckily I wasn't paying for them😂

@HotForgeChaos Жыл бұрын

Oh I agree Scott, its insane how much rubble comes out of a small set of stairs. I broke up a set of 2 landing stairs a third of the size of what you had which wasn't completely concrete filled and it still filled a 1.5x2.4 trailer and knocking on the limit of what my poor old suffering Hiace could tow. But those big high draw tools probably aren't at the stage where they can replace 240v or petrol just yet, maybe with the exception of Milwaukee MX Fuel but I haven't used those monstrosities yet. I would definitely have hired a big Makita-Dolmar petrol concrete chainsaw for that big of a full pour job, a 24 inch bar would have taken that cut nice and deep and then it would have been super easy to break it out with the Hilti breaker pick

@angelabaird6207 Жыл бұрын

Wholly molly that's a serious load of battery use. Hubby spent hours doing our chimney concrete slab and a huge concrete slab on back section when we moved here 16 yrs ago. Hard physical work

@AyeTheKay Жыл бұрын

5 year experience in demolition and concrete cutting. Could have done that job without the concrete cutters and just used the big jackhammer. Corded would be better. Have got the dewalt but not as big as that Hilti. Get about 10-15min out of a single 40v. Corded is the way to go with jacks. Great content. Keep it coming

@RFC3514 3 ай бұрын

I think the point was to show off / test the various Nuron tools. I'm pretty sure they didn't actually buy them.

@JDAfrica Жыл бұрын

I have the makita concrete saw, takes 2 x 18v … it cuts 6m on 5ah batteries, 90mm deep. You need plenty batteries to work with it - but luckily I have like 10 batteries so never a problem. Nice to see real actual usage on the hilti stuff. That jackhammer looks super - but, I wonder if hiring an electric one is better value.

@reecedejong8770 Жыл бұрын

I would highly recommend using concrete splitting wedges for thicker concrete like that in the future. A digger would definitely be more appropriate like you said but they have definitely speed up work I have done in the past.

@antonyrigby7738 Жыл бұрын

Hi Scott. Love this series on your house renovations. I’m currently renovating our home at the minute and you’ve given me loads of tips to take away and put into practice. Could you recommend a good framing nail gun as Makita doesn’t seem to have one in their range of cordless tools unless of course, I've just not noticed lol. Many thank’s and a big shout out from Northern Ireland

@SomeRandomOldGuy Жыл бұрын

Hi Friends, Thanks for all your great content. I so much appreciate the artistry and attention to detail that you bring to both your work and your video making. I wish that you could help train other youtubers to raise the general quality. I especially wish that you could train other youtubers how to incorporate music. You guys are the best.

@WillPhipps Жыл бұрын

I recently found your channel and I love it! The casey neistat of wood working!

@Sam0n1 Жыл бұрын

100% agree. The big boy toys. Cutters, breakers, lawn mowers are still not there. You just can't beat the petrol or corded options there yet. Think I felt the pain when you have batteries going flat and just want to get it done.

@dylb8801 Жыл бұрын

Nothing beats the 2stroke goodness

@georghofmann1782 Жыл бұрын

well .. you could have drilled some holes in the Stairs to create some weakpoint where it brakes easier .. should be faster then the Saw and should need lees Batteries but tbh .. cordless tools are overrated .. as good as they are these days, still they are mostly efficient where it is hard to get the Amps through the Cable, where you have to use a Generator und just for "short" Jobs, not whole Day work (then Generator can be more fficient)

@theunknownunknowns5168 Жыл бұрын

Be cool to see a follow-up doing something similar with an eletric digger. Places in Europe use electric earthworks machinery in urban areas because of the lower noise levels means they can work them for longer hours.

@sylviafawley5676 Жыл бұрын

Wow you guys work hard . Well done 👏

@erichenao6537 Жыл бұрын

Scott: "Hopefully those batteries don't take a long time to charge." Me: spits out drink…

@RFC3514 3 ай бұрын

If this was sponsored by Hilti, I'm surprised they didn't send them the fastest charger (the C 8-22) instead of the middle one (the C 6-22).

@JordanRobots Жыл бұрын

You did it! Nice job fellas!

@KermyGermy Жыл бұрын

One of your best edits yet. 👍🏻

@dennis2376 Жыл бұрын

Yep gas saws are still the way to go. :) NZ must have small dump trucks, that would only fill a trailer in Canada. :) Thank you and have a good week.

@dhammer5645 Жыл бұрын

I rented a quick cut to cut 7 20"×20" holes in 6" thick concrete. The rental company gave me a cordless Hilti with 4 batteries. I had to wait to charge 2 more batteries to finish all the cuts. It's just not quite there for a lot of cutting, more for quick one-off jobs.

@sparx2391 Жыл бұрын

When I was looking for an 18v sds, I looked at all the big brands, inc, milwaukee, makita, dewalt, hilti etc, but the most powerful one I could find was the Bosch bi turbo 18v sds plus, 5.8 joules, use with either an 8 or 12 Ah battery to get full power, brilliant bit of kit, if I ever need a heavy breaker, I just hire one, but I think in your case, I'd go for a digger and dumper. Hope ray will become a regular on the channel.

@ippolitius Жыл бұрын

When taking up a concrete driveway or pathway that's not reinforced with wire or rebar I've made quick work with a floor jack and 5lb sledg. If you dig just enough so you get the jack under enough to give it a slight lift then hit concrete with the sledg and you get nice square pieces if you place the jack right.

@migo-migo9503 Жыл бұрын

Lol, nice easter egg hunt opening.

@ianstanley5157 Жыл бұрын

I use to be a huge Hilti fan, I still use the TE6 -22 V everyday. Hilti gets 10/10 for their chisel designs, I can''t fault them. I still have one of their flat hand chiesels, which is also used on a dialy basis. the HIlti vacuum is stil lthe best for chasing. Cant say I would buy another Hilti product for 2 reason the rpices structure in our part of the world makes it out of reach for the little guy and secondly the fact that the tools only carry a 5 year warranty. I know you going to say its 20 years. Every single hilti product I own is no longer supported by Hilti. they dont even accept them for services and I have a bunch of Hilti products. It a good thing they use to make such a good quality product, I still own and use the old TE 55 ;) How many Te 55 do you still see on the job site.

@christopherinteriors6521 Жыл бұрын

I do highly rate Hilti. Hilti and Mafell are in such another class though that even most Festool owners wouldn't buy them. They are far too specialist for most people. Personally I don't think certain tools need to be battery tools, especially those which are hooked up via a hose anyway for dust collection or water.

@Tyler1169 Жыл бұрын

always felt like the push from tool manufacturers to put their whole catalogue to cordless is more so they can market "largest battery platform on the market!!! we even made a cordless coffee mug check mate dewalt!" despite the practicality and how pointless having some of these tool on battery are. like look at the mafell jig saw, thing is the best jig saw you can get your hands on and is only corded.

@scottmenhennet9933 Жыл бұрын

Eventually small combustion engines will be banned for import and manufacture at least in Western countries trying to reach net zero emissions, so manufacturers know they have to go in this direction for situations where access to AC power isn't available. They've gotta start some time.. Milwaukee MX FUEL range 72v battery tools are probably much more up to this job, and Makita's 40vx2 demolition saw If the fastest production car in the world can be a Tesla battery powered sedan, then eventually they will get heavy duty portable tools right too. Other companies already do battery ride on mowers and electric tractors.

@MrTherbst Жыл бұрын

Hilti are meant to be leaders in there field yet they don't make a dual battery charger UNBELIEVABLE!!!

@JDAfrica Жыл бұрын

@@MrTherbst I agree, commercial tools that use X2 technology need to have multi battery chargers.

@jamiedyer7782 Жыл бұрын

You're crazy bro festool has unique features that no other brand has. Every brand is innovating with tools now, lots of different little features can sway you to one brand. I have festool, 54v dewalt, hilti lasers, all sorts of stuff

@E4mj Жыл бұрын

What a great video! (As always)

@nekminit669 Жыл бұрын

Now that's my kinda easter hunt

@Vitulli1970 Жыл бұрын

Happy Easter to you and Jess...

@francisreidjr3788 Жыл бұрын

Well done boys, that looked like a nightmare.

@doug1381 Жыл бұрын

Thats a digger and Rockhammer job . Good effort lads

@klmbuilders5385 Жыл бұрын

Scott, I agree the bigger tool battery platforms are in their infancy. I'm waiting for a cordless battery driven auger that will turn a 12" diameter bit!

@arnieaka Жыл бұрын

I ❤eptwp

@arnieaka Жыл бұрын

Een

@arnieaka Жыл бұрын

Te😮tei

@JDAfrica Жыл бұрын

Seen the Makita auger? 36v - looks real nice

@andreandrews571 Жыл бұрын

I have a hilti te3000 plug in breaker which is the best breaker I’ve ever had I bought it second hand from hirepool for $1500 new $6000. Best breaker I’ve ever had way better than the old compressor breakers we used to use

@daylen577 Жыл бұрын

I'm all for cordless tools, but it seems to me like concrete hammers and saws aren't really the right target yet. Those are endurance tools that also still need a lot of power. If we ever get to the point where they can do maybe an hour on a charge that'd be great, until then I'd probably use a corded version instead

@scottmenhennet9933 Жыл бұрын

Milwaukee has MX Fuel 72v range and Makita does 80v tools, I have the makita 80v rotary hammer drill and although the concrete I was cutting wasn't anywhere as much as this, it was pretty capable to use as a jackhammer

@daylen577 Жыл бұрын

@@scottmenhennet9933 I never said they're not capable, it's just that the batteries don't last an entire day. Swapping batteries once or twice during the day would still be fine, but when you're doing an entire day of demo work you want your batteries to last at least as long as they need to charge back to full..

@sniperfi4532 Жыл бұрын

@@scottmenhennet9933yeah I think they’re better off having two seperate battery platforms rather than trying to use the same platform for everything. Dual battery systems are ok but you really need dual chargers and 4 batteries to really make it worth it.

@RFC3514 3 ай бұрын

What would be the advantage of going for one hour on a charge? You'd just need heavier batteries (or more of them). Surely you can take a 10-second break every 25 minutes to swap the batteries. Of course, a corded tool would be even lighter, so it's still preferable whenever possible.

@nzl2004 Жыл бұрын

Well done on persevering with batteries! Would be great if you could reach out to Milwaukee and ask to borrow their MX series breaker and saw for the next job. If the marketing is to be believed it should be a step up (it certainly is in price)!

@iwb70 Жыл бұрын

That looked hard work, for you and the batteries! I didn't understand why you spent so much time cutting it up when you were standing next to a breaker 🤷🏼‍♂️ Maybe you have to do it differently when everything is upside-down!

@RFC3514 3 ай бұрын

That looked like a job for a diamond wire saw like the ones they use in quarries. Two cuts and you're (practically) done. Of course, then you have the problem of moving a massive block of concrete, but maybe you could use it as a pedestal for a statue.

@jackl9922 Жыл бұрын

That’s a job for a pneumatic commercial hammer.

@coreyevans1979 Жыл бұрын

Yeah. That’s what I felt like 25 years ago with makita’s cabinet drill. The only right angle drill available, with nicad batteries. Those were the days of using a shiny silver plug in black and decker drill that would take your arm off if it got hung up. My dad still has one. You gotta be like ice cube and put your ass into it.

@kurtzcol Жыл бұрын

the music was a nice fitting touch on this one

@MrAidanfleming Жыл бұрын

The te6 is an incredible drill, I love it! But yeah, the disc cutter and breaker are totally pointless battery, especially for how much they cost!! The Stihl petrol saw never fails me and I use a corded hilti breaker which is also awesome!

@UltimateToolReviews Жыл бұрын

I feel like 20+ AH batteries are gonna be way more common in a few years. 25min on that jackhammer isn't much.

@chrisg2779 Жыл бұрын

Having removed some concrete stairs from the 60s I felt the pain. Used a corded jackhammer. Man was that a lot of work. I have another set at the front of my house that I’ve been putting off for about 5 years now. Should prob hire a digger…

@tippo5341 Жыл бұрын

Mass poured concrete stairs have to be one of the most evil concepts ever devised...great for the forming and pouring process, but an absolute b***h to demo...just evil 😂😂😂😂😂😂 but certainly a good job to put the HILTI tools through their paces though. We do demo, and we use HILTI recip's and grinders religiously, and also their corded breakers are the bees knees, wouldn't put the cordless series breakers through what we do, as from what you've shown, they just don't really cut it in the constant use department...give em time though...HILTI will devise something...eventually...perhaps. Great vid as always, and Happy Easter to yourself and Jess, and to Ray and his family as well!!!!

@BorisYeltivinshki Жыл бұрын

holy shit imagine if they had rebar in there. you guys had it easy haha. Great work

@duncanmarshall241 Жыл бұрын

It’d be really interesting to know why combination cordless and corded tools can’t be made…for instance how you can use your phone or camera while plugged in and charging. Thanks for your vid’s 👍

@MadLadCustoms Жыл бұрын

They won't be able to sell you batteries then 😄

@CallsignMiller Жыл бұрын

festool tried it (i dont know if they still sell the adapter) with the cordless sanders. But the adapter cost as much as 2 batteries pretty much at the time i looked into it.

@alip011 Жыл бұрын

Ego have a corded adapter for their outdoor range.

@okafka5446 Жыл бұрын

They can - see above - Hikoki have a battery/mains adaptor - and see below - Festool have a battery/mains adaptor for their 18v sanders. The more trades that draw attention to this (and vote with their feet, switching platforms) the more other tool companies will introduce the technology. A You Tube video like this, by a poster with this size of following - is great for clearly illustrating the real world drawbacks of certain cordless platforms. All credit to Scott and Ray. 🙂

@RFC3514 3 ай бұрын

They can, but for tools with a high power draw you need a pretty big adapter, that would make the tool significantly heavier. The alternative would be to have an _external_ power adapter (outputting 22 volts), but then you'd need a really beefy cord, because the current needs to go up (since it's only 22 volts instead of 230). Phones and cameras draw a very small fraction of the power that these tools do.

@thetazva Жыл бұрын

I would agree that some of the larger cordless tools just don't have the long run time because of the battery power they require, I would also point out that in all the 45 plus years I have done construction I have never seen anyone cut slots in a set of steps to demo them. Hilti makes some of the best cordless tools on the market,with the possible exception of this concrete breaker and concrete saw.. Also the use of the hilti breaker as demonstrated showed that both of you had not had much experience with the tool and how best to use it to maximize the tools capabilities. That being said I would never have tried to perform this demo with cordless tools. Hilti's corded concrete breaker would have gone through those steps like butter. you worked yourselves needlessly hard when the objective should be to work smarter,not harder. Keep on trucking on

@R900DZ Жыл бұрын

Those stairs were really well made, a bit of a shame getting rid of them.

@mdmconstruction Жыл бұрын

Nice showing off the deck at the end

@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb Жыл бұрын

Those steps were a perfect place for expanding demolition grout - just drill some slightly angled holes about every foot, mix up the expanding grout, load the holes. Come back in the morning and that concrete would have been cracked to bits.

@robthewaywardwoodworker9956 Жыл бұрын

Best Easter ever! Other than the first one of course.

@badopinion Жыл бұрын

Done a few stoops and found an 80lb jackhammer and with a tow behind compressor is the way to go. Can rent the combo for $350usd a day. I love Hilti tools though!!

@fartnyaface Жыл бұрын

Tip for smashing out concrete....grab an SDS bit drill multi holes then use yr breaker to smash out concrete makes job so much easier!

@KoohaEbuyer Жыл бұрын

Smoko time is BACK baby!!!

@rhinocivilservices Жыл бұрын

Good idea to keep a lithex fire extinguisher nearby with that amount of high capacity batteries stored indoors.

@andrewcairns5312 Жыл бұрын

Sweetbix Scott and Ray. More chargers, and more batteries. That will take a long time to change.

@Goabnb94 Жыл бұрын

Generally 2 batteries is double the voltage but they may also be there to give you greater capacity/runtime.

@theVoyage Жыл бұрын

The issue of drawing down batteries faster than you can charge them is something you run into with drilling large diameter holes in concrete, I've gone through two and a half 18AH batteries to drill one 25mm hole before. I now have a mains powered concrete drill as well.

@joehart3826 Жыл бұрын

Ok, so get Hikoki 36v sorted as mains and battery