Would You Pay $30,000 for a Deck?

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@josephb5677 Жыл бұрын

I'm always so amazed how people can afford to pay to hire us 😂 I can't even afford to work on my own house for free after work

@justice4g Жыл бұрын

I've got someone coming next week to do some work, I know I should do it myself but there's just too much to do.. I'll be paying more than double I've ever made / hour in IT, that seems like the norm here, you're lucky to get anyone there's such a shortage of tradies.

@Nagggl Жыл бұрын

@@justice4g Hope they do a good job, finding good tradies at lest in Australia is very hard. Most of the time we end up paying a premium price for... horrible workmanship. Don't mind paying premium price if the workmanship is good but its usually not the case.

@justice4g Жыл бұрын

@@Nagggl yeah that's why I prefer paying by the hour, they won't just rush it and get out, they might milk the time but have no excuse to not work to my standard.

@calebsmith9190 Жыл бұрын

I often am amazed that people can afford to hire me or my peers.

@realg.7731 Жыл бұрын

Exactly how I feel too 😂

@Noahsamonte31 Жыл бұрын

I am fully impressed! It’s just a complete kzfaq.infoUgkxGqOCINHE0Z0E5gxzSdNi9NWGugRY5Hm2 plan with the best resources and step by step instructions . These shed plans are so satisfying as if the sheds build themselves on their own. Worthy work Ryan!

@InstantCasette Жыл бұрын

Nice being transparent about the costs.

@dismafuggerhere2753 Жыл бұрын

but shocking because of the price. well to me at least and used to work in a UK builders merchants.

@HotForgeChaos Жыл бұрын

If you were to get a chippie to build it for you, you'd be north of 20 grand by the time you're finished

@Nickvin Жыл бұрын

@@dismafuggerhere2753 I'm always shocked when I hear about building prices in the UK, they are SO much cheaper than we get here in Aus (and NZ)

@dismafuggerhere2753 Жыл бұрын

@@Nickvin LOL I'm also shocked when a sandwich and milkshake cost 10 aussie dollars on Neighbours

@rhyswilliams9422 Жыл бұрын

Hi Scott, I am A training advisor, four BCIT0 and I suggest all of my carpentry apprentices watch your channel very well thought out content. Keep up the good work next week I am going to a numeracy and literacy gathering at BCIT0 head office Wellington where I will be suggesting your channel as a learning tool for apprentices with literacy difficulties I hope this makes sense. I’m using voice to text. Regards Reese

@Boncrek Жыл бұрын

I didn't know that Commando Scott was what I needed to see today, but I'm glad I did! Good episode Scott. Please keep them coming!

@matthogan7754 Жыл бұрын

Commando Scott is fortunately not what I thought you meant

@sharonadlam3195 Жыл бұрын

Post of the day - Commando Scott - luv it 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@wobblyplanks Жыл бұрын

@@matthogan7754 that would be Scott going commando yer?🤣

@OGeorge187 Жыл бұрын

I think it was great to be transparent about the prices. A lot of people in NZ these days think it’s crazy when you tell them their deck is going to cost more than $20,000 to build. Like there is some kind of 10k standard floating around

@handidles Жыл бұрын

I was quoted 11k + gst for 30m2 kwilla deck build. How big are people building their decks Jesus.

@Sanutep Жыл бұрын

We kiwis are really slow to adjust our pricing expectations, especially given the last few years...

@ErgonBill Жыл бұрын

People get fixated on a current price 20 years ago and forget to raise the bar each year for inflation. And since COVID, well....

@garethkortegast7002 Жыл бұрын

@@handidles take it bro that's a bargain. $300 s/m isn't enough now days. But you do get what you pay for

@glennanthony3165 Жыл бұрын

@@garethkortegast7002 my Builder quoted round the $1000 per sqm mark for building a deck. I think the timber costs almost exceed the labour costs these days on some jobs

@samsboringchannel Жыл бұрын

It took me a lifetime to build my deck, mostly on my own using evenings and weekends, so its brought me comfort to see how long a proffesional builder doing it on his own takes. Thanks for breaking down costs and time bro!

@devonwainstein9188 Жыл бұрын

Calm down its a 3 day job

@samsboringchannel Жыл бұрын

@@devonwainstein9188 of course it is expert commenter, thanks for your helpful insight. Looking forward to watching your video where you show us how it's done, you'll have us all in awe.

@cwcollins06 Жыл бұрын

Did anybody else get all excited when he said "Am I borrowing tools, or what's happening here?" I figured Gaston had showed up. Feels like we haven't seen him in awhile. Surely it's time for Scott to buy more tools. It was also nice to see a real pro dealing with treated lumber moving so much. Every time I use it I have a "Well, this was square and level yesterday..." moment.

@8antipode9 Жыл бұрын

That was great Scott, definitely made me laugh. Speaking as an American, I must say that gun would be the most American way to season a steak. 😆

@Monkey_Snot Жыл бұрын

I love the fact that you're taking your time getting your deck perfect. I mean, if you're willing to build your deck to perfection, I can just imagine how nice a clients deck will be, or anything for a client for that matter.

@shoutatthesky Жыл бұрын

The clients deck won't get this treatment!

@JamieVauxnut1 Жыл бұрын

Coffee on the unsealed deck!!!! Absolutely no way 😂

@strandedinparadise8202 Жыл бұрын

So let's do some maths. If Scott it installing 350 lineal metres and the boards are 145 mm wide (including for the gap) that means the deck is about 50 sq metres. At a cost of NZ$30,000 that makes it about $600 per sq metre which is not as frightening as I thought it would be. 23 years ago I was allowing $250/m2 for a basic deck . Given that house construction costs have tripled in NZ in that time and this is a fancy deck I say it's not too bad.

@kiwigrunt330 Жыл бұрын

I would say about 40 m2, if allowing for offcuts and the decking around the sides. He'll have quite a few offcuts given how short the boards are.

@Nothingstutube Жыл бұрын

The fly thing at the end cracked me up. I enjoy your videos on my Saturday morning with a coffee, - they not long enough 😀

@pietervanderwesthuizen2319 Жыл бұрын

Great to see you building and explaining how-to and why you do what you do.

@HotForgeChaos Жыл бұрын

Your deck may be rather expensive, but look at the attention to detail you're putting into it! That's going to be the talk of the town once its done

@JimmyCeeTV Жыл бұрын

The highlight of my Saturday morning breakfast is the next exciting episode of SBC. Beautiful deck mate 👏

@terrytopliss9506 Жыл бұрын

The decks looking brilliant Scott,fabulous advert for your building skills. Thanks for the latest exciting episode Scott.👍👍

@moanahughes3593 Жыл бұрын

Really enjoy watching you all work together, family and friends, only way to do it💥💥💥💚Awesome job👍 Good to see materials becoming readily available at last🤗

@uprightcr2744 Жыл бұрын

The overall craftsmanship on this build appears to be spectacular Scott! Very impressive stuff

@mikesionu Жыл бұрын

Appreciation for the content! It's always fun to see how you do stuff outside what we do here in the sates. Keep on keeping on and again, Thank You! 🤘

@CLCLTD Жыл бұрын

Them material prices are absolutely mental. I taught Ireland was bad

@kiwigrunt330 Жыл бұрын

I was taught that too...

@RayStarbirdHome Жыл бұрын

That tropical hardwood is absolutely gorgeous. I'm a bit envious as I look out at my standard pressure-treated pine deck, which we luckily added just before the pandemic caused lumber prices to skyrocket. Thanks for sharing your costs, too. They make me more thankful for our materials costs in the US.

@instantalbums Жыл бұрын

Tropical hardwood is generally harvested unethically and destroys the vegetation in these poorer countries unfortunately. Much like Merbau. Hope I'm wrong.

@idontthinkso666 Жыл бұрын

@@instantalbums Nope, you are right.

@kenzokan167 Жыл бұрын

Nice works as always SBC. Thanks for sharing the $s and details behind them - we're building (in NZ) at the moment and this provides an extra layer of confidence that our builder's figures are market level. Cheers

@dub944 Жыл бұрын

You’ve got a gift for soundtrack and sequencing… one of the many reasons I love your videos. Nice work on the deck, thanks for sharing your build and sense of humour. Cheers from Vancouver isle Canada 🍻

@Leo_S94 Жыл бұрын

Being open and transparent about the costs was super eye opening and really informative, respect !

@devonwainstein9188 Жыл бұрын

Anyone can look up the same materials. It's not secret

@katrinabell7684 Жыл бұрын

Another great video SBC. Your deck looks amazing . I love the Vitex tropical wood and the steps look very classy!! Thanks for sharing the cost too. Always interesting to know the cost!😎

@philliptran7537 Жыл бұрын

The level of transparency is appreciated 👍

@michaelrybak4189 Жыл бұрын

This video rules. The fun bit at the end was awesome.

@slimscudtwo Жыл бұрын

I started watching you years ago when building a deck in my backyard for a pool. I actually had 0 knowledge starting it and thanks to you i did it. I spent way less on materials around 2k and i didnt think it would last me more than a year but hey its still here after what 3 years ? so not bad hey. thanks for your content scott!

@MrBrewsk Жыл бұрын

Deck is looking awesome. I also laughed really hard at your tactical movement while hunting flies. Wish you all the best.

@pipey3000 Жыл бұрын

Am I the only one that thinks Vitex sounds like a brand of composite decking boards? Love the vids Scott, watching a new one with a cup of coffee is the best way to start my Saturday :)

@terrystephens1102 Жыл бұрын

You are doing a fantastic job, the decking looks beautiful. Great job 😁👌👌👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️

@rickb4384 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video as always Scott. Your mate has an awesome sense of humour 😂

@windyboy78 Жыл бұрын

I'm building a Garapa deck right now, and I just couldn't justify Spax screws at NZ$1.10ea! But they are the best! Found an option at 0.40c ea which will do the job. Looking good Scott!

@azzri25 Жыл бұрын

Disclaimer - No flies were harmed during the filming of this episode. 😂 The stunt flies are professionals. Please do not do this at home😂😂😂😂. Lovely deck by the way👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

@graemescott990 Жыл бұрын

I love your pictures of the amazing scenery. (As well as the woodwork of course 🙂)

@DimONMINIpeople Жыл бұрын

Love you Scott! Education and top entertainment!! The BEST!

@JL-hn6hi Жыл бұрын

Thx. Appreciate the cost data and conversion table.

@cernunnoskali Жыл бұрын

At our house, in Australia, the two dogs and two cats, catch all the flies. Open doors and windows, in summer, no flies!

@lukedaffey2113 Жыл бұрын

Looks magnificent Scott

@mrz175 Жыл бұрын

It’s satisfying seeing someone be so OCD when he builds. These days that’s hard too find here Is Australian anyways. good job Scott 👍🏻

@ulrichminky9495 Жыл бұрын

I built a deck in BC Canada in the year 2001. It was roughly the same size but the floor of the deck was 2.5 meters off the ground. The cost was about $20,000 Canadian dollars this was for materials as I did the labour myself. Cheers from Canada. ~ulrich

@EkimYo23 Жыл бұрын

I'm a deck and fence builder in NZ. I built my 35sqm deck with pine for around 4-5k last year incl 8m of seating, 2 steps and a 3sqm raised platform, all picture framed. About 8-9 days work on my own. So if you're ok with boards that shrink and wont last as many decades you can definitely save a lot of money DIY the cheap way

@cameronrolston6099 Жыл бұрын

I built my own b4 covid. At 30m2 for about 3.5 to 4k not 6m of Seating. Timber has just gone mental aye.

@pureblood1415 Жыл бұрын

Nice work Scott 👍

@sirrox8080 Жыл бұрын

good video scott just finished my apprenticeship haven't paid much attention to material prices the whole time I've been building except that they are ridiculous but man oh man what a surprise that was

@bradleyreynolds1787 Жыл бұрын

Great episode!!!

@FeedMeAQuarter Жыл бұрын

The floating steps could make an excellent place for accent lights too.

@michaelnichols7669 Жыл бұрын

Gotta say, the deck your building and other's you've built in the past look great. I love the hardwood decks, in my area NC/SC in the US, the only decks I've built have been either regular Pressure treated or Trex, which is a recycled plastic made to look like wood.

@brycejohnston7806 Жыл бұрын

thankyou for doing this break down Scott. So many people think I am ripping them off with Quotes but this it the true cost. Especially if you want Quality. I always hate seeing friends DIY jobs and being expected to praise them for shoddy work.

@spreklfreks Жыл бұрын

I have a bug-a-salt! It's wicked fun to obliterate flies! Unfortunately, the salt hopper broke so it doesn't have a lid anymore. definitely adds to the challenge.

@Niberspace Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the warning! I wanted to build a deck for my caravan, I had no idea that they were that expensive, 30k$ is double what the entire caravan costs.

@JimTom. Жыл бұрын

hes gone with all the super premium products though. For a standard deck you could easily do it for half

@Niberspace Жыл бұрын

@@JimTom. Aha, thanks

@jasonthomas6072 Жыл бұрын

Omg KZfaq has been good to you my friend . Good job

@primularossa8976 Жыл бұрын

Scott you are great indeed ... the best!💪💪💪

@astr0nox Жыл бұрын

I remember seeing these bug guns I think more than 10 years ago. A trip down memory lane for sure!

@JamieVauxnut1 Жыл бұрын

We'd be around 30% less here in Scotland, a combination of lower material cost and slightly less on labour costs. That's based on Balau decking boards

@graemeanderson395 Жыл бұрын

Blimey! That’s £15000 over here in Scotland. Could build 2 of these using similar timber

@jfrancis Жыл бұрын

That is probably the most well built deck I’ve ever seen. People can enjoy a nice deck for a lot less.

@evagnz Жыл бұрын

That fly shooter gun ist a must have!

@omegabyuu Жыл бұрын

Love the Bug-a-salt aye, very satisfying to get flies with.

@PerkBuilders Жыл бұрын

Very comparable pricing to here in Portland, OR, USA. I use primarily 5/4x6” Mahogany, which looks similar to this decking. Not cheap, but 100% worth it. It’s painful, but cost is cost. 30k is average. Beautiful build!

@ianjenkins1905 Жыл бұрын

Scott. love to you and your wife from the UK. Yes you could build your deck cheaper, and some people do (use less exotic timber) but if you want it, why compromise. Even though I'm not a builder (do dabble in DIY) I love your vids. All the best for the future and keep up the good work.

@Normandie4Life Жыл бұрын

At 3:12 is the staining on the end of the decking board from oiling the end of the boards or from a trick with the light. Cheers Scott. Always good to come along with you on this journey and you have done right by us all over all these years. All the best. Hs

@vinhwang5143 Жыл бұрын

I'd glad to see u uploaded the new video

@DR-hx2xc Жыл бұрын

Scott, sorry about being a little late to the game here, but w/r to waiting to oil the deck: we put in an ipe deck, waited 6 months to oil after talking to the the oil manufacturer. (Armstrong Clark, I don't know if you can get it in NZ, but it is a brilliant product; low VOC, so they can ship.) He told us that the extra time would give the wood to give up any surface oil of its own (while it greys) and let it take the new oil deeper. We couldn't be happier with the result, have only had to reapply a tiny amount every few years. When we do it looks like new for months, and this is in the tropics where the sun is quite strong.

@stevefox7469 Жыл бұрын

I was quoted $22k NZD for a deck replacement in Auckland. I ended up doing it myself. $7K in materials and 3 days of my time. Simple deck, not elevated, no balastrades, no weedmat, std decking nails, and didn't need to replace existing joists.

@lukewiles1 Жыл бұрын

We're filming our raise and build project as owner builders in Australia. Appreciate the breakdown and just materials adds up really quickly!

@lukewiles1 Жыл бұрын

@@shoutatthesky someone woke up on the wrong side

@tjnicholas Жыл бұрын

Good job not messing about before answering the question in the title!

@kullervo. Жыл бұрын

Looking great!

@casesully50 Жыл бұрын

The string line on the drill blew my fucking mind 🤯. I do pipe lines so we grade with 100's of feet of string. Cant wait pull that one out of the bag at work. The guys are going to freak.

@stepansavelyonok5532 Жыл бұрын

I built two decks on the sides of my house. The house I built myself from scratch few years ago, only experience I had is what my dad taught me and endless source of the internet. There is so many things I wish I knew before building the house, before building decks, etc. etc. But I love my place where I can go after work to sit on my deck and just enjoy few moments before getting further in building, maintaining and renovating my household.

@alliao82 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the pricing transparency!

@whittakertable Жыл бұрын

Ok I’m shocked at the labour cost, 12k, I’m from New Zealand and highest quote I’ve had is 7k, geez inflation has killed it. Glad I can do my own thing and never have used a builder for anything. Mainly because Scott’s videos have taught me a lot 😂 KZfaq is a wonderful tool

@cameronrolston6099 Жыл бұрын

Id say most builder's are charging north of 65$ per hour and if there not they should be.

@whittakertable Жыл бұрын

@@cameronrolston6099 way north, be at least $80 if not more per hour. Guess with all the extra detail to attention as Scott pointed out would drive that price up more. I was gonna do a hard wood deck for my next project but may just stick to treaded pine 😂

@sebastiaanstoffels7565 Жыл бұрын

@@cameronrolston6099 I assume that would be per person? So if they had 3 guys working on a deck, 8 hours a day for a 2 weeks ( 10 work days ) then that would add up to around $15k. Guess it depends on how fast they can work!

@JimTom. Жыл бұрын

@@sebastiaanstoffels7565 it was 1 guy and Ray a couple days a week. I could do that on my own in 2 weeks. I still cant see how he comes to $15k

@johnmccarthy6686 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant deck, Scott - it looks amazing and is so well suited to your home. My only fear is that you’re now going to be a target of the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Flies (RSPCF)! Nice tool, though. It’s winter here in Canada, but I may have to find myself a salt gun for the summer. Cheers!

@blzt3206 Жыл бұрын

I’m also Canadian and we bring those suckers camping. Kids love shooting flies in the tent haha

@Re5ist_ance Жыл бұрын

NZ might be the most perfect place (in my opinion). Love the nature found there and the vibe of the people. I'd move there, but citizenship is impossible (outside of marriage or just being born there).

@dennis2376 Жыл бұрын

The fabric is more of a pain then actually useful, dirt will get on it and seeds will find the dirt. :) Nice deck. :)

@Eggscuse Жыл бұрын

Honestly that seems hella expensive. I am a hardwood carpenter in the netherlands, we build alot of decks and everything straight up class A hardwood(azobe, massaranduba, kapur) will only come out to about 200 a square meter. Thats the price we sell it for to the customer. Then again we order containers of hardwood and not per job like you do so that probably has to do something with the price too

@MattyH73 Жыл бұрын

Looks great 👍

@eggmanbmangman Жыл бұрын

One thing my wife and I couldn't understand about new Zealand houses from our road trip was the lack of fly screens. Made it impossible to open windows at night.

@zachcombs6271 Жыл бұрын

The bug gun is a MUST have. I bought one and now I hope for flys in my house. They even make a laser attachment for that gun too..

@Gungho1a Жыл бұрын

I've oiled all sides of my own deck, following advice from our builder...lesson learned (for all of us), don't take shortcuts and attempt to oil the planks when still bound together (builder's suggestion, not mine). It sounds like a good idea, but the oil runs between the planks and you end up with horrid stains which then need to be sanded back. I'm afraid if you go down the path of completely oiling your planks, there is no real shortcut. Second thing I learnt was that using a sealer type deck oil, it can be a lot of work to sand back at any point...using a belt sander, which is preferred due to the cross-warping of the planks, the seal type oil heats up and gums up the sanding belt, a lot...my solution was to resort to a heat gun and a 'fine' scraper. It actually saved time, but it was backbreaking work crawling across the thing. Much as I don't like the idea, I'm thinking next time I'll use a chemical solvent to remove the deck oil.

@nitrosrt4 Жыл бұрын

something i learned early on in my self employment, people will pay for what they want and it doesnt matter if you think its too much, and being cheapest isnt the way to go.

@michaelrose9949 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant work and attention to detail as normal. I dnt know if you have any but bench top adjustable rollers are really handy I work on my own a lot and if using portable table saw a clamp 1 to the top of a stool and it helps hold the timber once been through the saw

@nbmufc94 Жыл бұрын

Nelson looks beautiful and tropical at this time of year.

@Hunterkey123 Жыл бұрын

A deck like this in the states would be 15-30% more $. If it's more than 18"(450mm) tall, it would need a handrail where I live. Looks good!

@deathdeny Жыл бұрын

I work in a sawmill where we only produce 3/4" boards, and we use a specialty wax on every board end to prevent cracking. We make over 250,000 board feet every day so we use a lot of wax!

@iammattbarker Жыл бұрын

Took me two years. Including double hip surgery and a blown out ankle. The company that supplied the stain and boards went out of business. After a lot of sleepless nights I managed to buy a pack of leftover boards to ensure I had enough for any damage and a matching smaller deck out the back. But... I learned some good skills and saved a huge amount of money. Sheesh

@patrickradcliffe3837 Жыл бұрын

12'x39' deck took me two weeks to build. Built on 10" steel I beams 40" elevation, 2x6 joists with Trex decking. All in about 6k US, the expensive part is the railing 1x4 steel tubing with 5/16" vinyl coated aircraft cables.

@ducati9962001 Жыл бұрын

You get satisfaction working on your house and completing projects like building a deck but the older I get , the less I want to doing things like that and more time relaxing and working on my toys.

@cpee656 Жыл бұрын

Headshot with the Bug-A-Salt at the end!

@djsunproductions Жыл бұрын

Scott wouldn't hurt a fly... Scott "Hold my beer!"

@jamesblair4709 Жыл бұрын

That’s a mad amount of money! I’ve just done a similar sized decking and those exact screws were less than £100 GBP!

@alliao82 Жыл бұрын

nz building suppliers own the market so ppl can't afford anything nice

@nzldbart Жыл бұрын

Decks looking good Scott, interested in your take on using Grappa in place of the Vitex very similar look and color profile

@dennismitchell4836 Жыл бұрын

I have the same Bug-assault! It is good fun.

@lancemillward2462 Жыл бұрын

the pine underneath will move differently when it is wet. i might do a few things differently. probably some batten screws in the joists. and some tar paper along the top of each joist.

@jamesmadson3242 Жыл бұрын

Just did a $100k (USD) deck end of last season, its crazy what people will spend for a deck.

@dougsaunders8109 Жыл бұрын

Looking good mate. Don’t forget to include the delays for watching RWC later in the year. You blokes have early mornings for it

@Bussellg Жыл бұрын

Hi Scott. We would love to see an episode covering Ray's wharf-deck build!

@aaronalquiza9680 Жыл бұрын

for someone who doesn't have already, TOOLS (rented/purchased) also add to the cost.

@MKRM27 Жыл бұрын

If you waste half the materials, order the wrong things, have your tools stolen, etc.etc. that can also increase the costs… meanwhile, back to the material costs…

@SmallWonda Жыл бұрын

Don't s'pose that'll sort rabbits?!! We were thinking a deck was what we needed, but just before your cost's expose we thought a patio would work - least the snakes & rabbits can't get under that. But if we were building a deck, yours is the one I'd want - looks superb. I'm pretty scared to think what we can buy for our renno budget... Keep safe & enjoying your work!

@matthewguthrie7675 Жыл бұрын

I would but that is why I always do it myself. Lol! No pain no gain. Also, there’s something to be said for knowing that you did it yourself and you did it right.