The HORRIFIC Torture Of The Women Who Slept With German Soldiers

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Following the Normandy Invasions and D-Day, the Allies came across a number of French towns, cities and settlements that were very happy to see their liberators. But they also witnessed horrific treatment of a number of women who were accused of sleeping with German Soldiers and they were accused of 'horizontal collaboration.' This led to 20,000 women being shaved in public in brutal scenes, with crowds jeering and punishing the women who were seen as betraying their country. Many of these women were also beaten and forced to run the gauntlet, and with this some inside of Paris were even beaten.
The scenes of the treatment of the women who slept with the Germans was horrific, and many of these women were forced to cavort with German soldiers for food. Some fell in love, but in France it was seen as such a crime to have slept with the enemy. The hair cuts and heads shaved that women had to shame them dated back to the Dark Ages, and these scenes were played out in many French towns and cities. It was very shocking, and was like a riot was breaking out. Many women were marked as sleeping with the Germans and also were even covered in tar for their shame.
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@uhlijohn Жыл бұрын

It is instructive to note that many of the French upper classes who collaborated with the Germans were never held to account....they were untouchable. That was reserved for the lower classes. I have seen newsreel footage of French civilians striking allied prisoners as they were being marched along streets of Paris or some other city...many French collaborated with the Germans. Many feared communists more than the Germans and welcomed the Germans to suppress the communists. Many thousands of European men entered military service for the Third Reich to fight communism. That is a fact that is rarely mentioned today.

@anotherarmchairhistorian2831 Жыл бұрын

A lot of French men joined the SS. It wasn't just a select few it was tens of thousands that joined the regular army along with the SS. It's skipped over a lot and rarely ever addressed.

@tomfrazier1103 Жыл бұрын

During parts of the 1930s France was in a pre Civil War situation. In Spain it actually broke out and was a theater of interwar hates.

@BST-lm4po Жыл бұрын

The Germans had been fighting the Communists in Europe since 1936, when they assisted the Nationalists in the Spanish Civil War. (Even earlier if you count the defeat of Communist Uprisings in Germany). Hitler was concerned about the Soviet Communists invading Europe. Lenin had repeatedly remarked that "The Revolution shall be carried to Western Europe on the bayonets of Soviet soldiers!" and "The shortest route to Berlin and Paris lay through Warsaw!" I think Stalin felt the same way. The Soviets were quick to invade Poland and Finland in 1939. (And occupied half of Europe after the war). I think Europe was a powder keg in 1939,.. and Hitler lit the match!

@zoebear1992 Жыл бұрын

Evil is everywhere money and power.

@johanvandermeulen9696 Жыл бұрын

@ALAIN TERRIEUR Quelle langue! 'Nazi officer'. Ce n' étaient pas des officiers nazis, c' étaient des officiers allemands.

@colleendean2917 Жыл бұрын

The saddest part was the terrible treatment of the innocent children born under these circumstances.

@laurencetilley9194 Жыл бұрын

Anni-Frid Lyngstad of ABBA fame was one of those innocent children born during the German occupation of Norway. Her story is very sad.

@AmberPanda Жыл бұрын

@@laurencetilley9194 I may be wrong but, wasn't it her grandmother who took her to Sweden to get her away from Norway?

@mydnytmover Жыл бұрын

They should not have spread their legs.

@larrynorman1919 Жыл бұрын

@@laurencetilley9194 Alfred Haase was her father I think he died in 2006, he was very involved with his daughter

@ultron-5600 Жыл бұрын

@@mydnytmover I don’t blame them for wanting to sleep with the last true Europeans and heroes of European civilization.

@harrywebsters2318 Жыл бұрын

The majority of French cheering crowds were actively collaborative with the Germans up until the point that the tide turned in the allies favour, with a large portion of the country supportive of the Vichy government. This is well documented.

@MikeKollin Жыл бұрын

So basically they switched sides then when the Germans were losing, they Switched back!! SAd...

@cardboardcapeii4286 9 ай бұрын

Cus Germany liberated them from jews

@brettbuck7362 7 ай бұрын

Exactly, the people at the front of the line to get the collaborators did it so no one did it to them, that is what cowardice is all about. I also note that while the Maqui had a lot of trouble recruiting for most of the war, their numbers swelled to near 100% by the middle of '45.

@user-vh3fr3lb8w 5 ай бұрын

@@cardboardcapeii4286jew hater vomiting his usual hate on KZfaq lol

@michelterral5907 5 ай бұрын

it's absolut true !!!many french colaborate with nazis ,starting with the government of Vichy ..French..POLICE FIRST !!! @@brettbuck7362

@Petal4822 Жыл бұрын

Everyone in France was part of the resistance in 1945 but not in 1940.

@roberteaston6413 Жыл бұрын

Something Canadians do not want to admit is that during WW2 most French Canadians supported Vichy France.

@davidcritchley3509 Жыл бұрын

The hardest time to be in the resistance was 1940-1942 when the Germans seeked unbeatable.

@roberteaston6413 Жыл бұрын

@@davidcritchley3509 In 1942 the Germans seemed unbeatable but both Herman Goering and Jozef Goebels knew by then that Germany could not win the war. They knew that given the resources of the USA and the USSR that Germany could not could not defeat the Allies. They were hoping for a break between the Western Allies and the USSR. If they could negotiate a separate peace with the Western Allies then they could stave off the USSR. They did not realise that FDR was serious about unconditional surrender.

@JamieZero7 Жыл бұрын

lol It's fine to resistance when you got British, Canada and American troops backing you.

@JamieZero7 Жыл бұрын

However funny. France had a bit of Crisis during ww2. As the communists and socialists groups wanted to take over. Which would have led to more death. There was fighting long after ww2 on just whom would come out on top.

@cubicinches18 Жыл бұрын

I admire your conviction not to sanitise history and for showing the actual footage uncensored

@TheSnoopindaweb Жыл бұрын

🤔🤨💭👍👌👏😃💯‼

@drockit7127 Жыл бұрын

Where’s all the black peoples. I thought they had it bad. Looks like we all had it bad.

@cubicinches18 Жыл бұрын

@@drockit7127 War is probably the most egalitarian activity that that the human species knows. Bombs and bullets don't discriminate. They are happy to kill anyone. During the second world war the black population represented about 12% of the total population, however black servicemen (not including women) represented 16.3% of US servicemen and 25% of the USA army soldiers but less than 2% were officers. The USA and it's military isn't so egalitarian even in war. I'll buy you a beer if you can tell me which US ethnic group had the highest proportional number fighting for America during the second world war.

@romo9122 Жыл бұрын

I'm from the Netherlands and this happend here too after the war. Some people still bare the "shame" of being a grandchild of/related to these poor women. It's crazy

@This-Is-My-Little-Corner Жыл бұрын

Well, that just makes it all way worse! Why in Gods name should there be ANY shame?!? They did nothing

@peterdebrie Жыл бұрын

Never seen or heard of that and I lived there for 30 years.

@romo9122 Жыл бұрын

@@peterdebrie depends where you live(d) maybe. My hometown and surrounding area's it was a thing the old People whispered about or used in a rage argument. I moved away and live in a city now. Dont notice it here but i dont hang out with many 80/90 yr olds r/n

@paulaward5346 Жыл бұрын

Hello Netherlands! My brother Paul and I are part Dutch on our mom's side of the family! Hello from Tyler Texas U.S.A.

@thor7856 Жыл бұрын

@@This-Is-My-Little-Corner They helped the Nazi's that killed their own people and you know sent 9 million people to death camps.

@kevinhealey6540 Жыл бұрын

I knew an Italian guy at work. He said when he was 5 years old, when the Americans were taking over Italy in 44, his family had to hide out a female cousin of his who was from another town a few miles away. She had a German soldier boyfriend and when the German army took off from the area, the town's people wanted to get their hands on her and even up the score. The woman was brought to relatives in Switzerland where she eventually immigrated to the the US.

@chrisstucker1813 Ай бұрын

Look how brave they get once the real men leave.

@Ulrike911 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for revealing this untold history.

@steveinjava Жыл бұрын

And all the soldiers who raped women in WW2?....Double standards which I fear still exist. Thank you for an important social documentary.

@sassycat6487 5 ай бұрын

When the Russians liberated the concentration camps they raped the women. Makes me so sick that the women still weren't free.

@gordonski9310 Жыл бұрын

It applied mainly to lower class French women. The upper class ladies who also collaborated, like CHANNEL the dress designer & Arletty the film star got away with it. As referred to this was not particularly a French "thing". The Germans did the same

@UKSCIENCEORG Жыл бұрын

Coco Chanel.

@StalinTheMan0fSteel Жыл бұрын

As I understand it, the allies were going to prosecute her until Churchill intervened personally and saved Chanel, apparently his wife and others in English society liked her.

@rg20322 Жыл бұрын

@@StalinTheMan0fSteel Such a shame - she should have been taken out.

@paulthrutner9114 Жыл бұрын

Louis Vuitton also collaborated with the Germans!

@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 Жыл бұрын

I see someone else watched the most recent Bill Burr stand up on Netflix

@kendigjl 8 ай бұрын

The idea of protecting a loving wife and mother for his children is what motivates a man to fight when it comes right down to it. These women really were helping Germany defeat France. It's understandable that these women were treated like this. That being said - if a woman is able to leave an area where there is a war going on, it's probably a good idea to do so.

@surgigi1582 3 ай бұрын

The idea of coward men running away instead of protecting their country and then comes back to harass and abuse the women of his country makes me feel understandable if these men were punished in the highest form that is possible. Men all go to war to protect women??? that's the reason of wars? Every single country during WW2 went to war to only protect women? And how they were protecting the women when they indeed fled and handed over their women to their enemies? And a men only protects a woman because of his children, because she needs the women to raise his children? What are you babbling? Yeah, I know men see women as their property, that's why they came to abuse and punish them, because they are men's property and these men were to cowards to fight men. How old are you? you sound like a woman hater and misogynist still telling the tale of men going to war because of women. how long do you want to tell us that lie?

@surgigi1582 3 ай бұрын

Maybe men should not fight , eff them fighting and ef their motivation, and ef that you thing that women are only worth protecting because of their children. Men first create wars and cause danger and harm to women because of their selfishness, they come back and abuse women more and now women own them something? And no, the woman did not helped Germans, the French men betrayed their country and fled like r@ts and who are you to tell women what to do and where to flee after you create wars? eff offf.

@col.waltervonschonkopf69 Ай бұрын

It's simply misogyny speaking.

@kendigjl Ай бұрын

@@col.waltervonschonkopf69 Maybe you should travel to a war zone and inform the men there about your point of view.

@thatguyjoe007 8 күн бұрын

Yes I agree. If the women back home are sleeping with the enemy than what are the men in the war suppose to be defending?

@Adifferentversionofhistory Жыл бұрын

"Yes, I was in this hospital from 1943 to August 1944. The Allies did bomb parts of Paris, and we treated French civilians wounded in these attacks. They mostly hit the railyards and some factories, but at night, they were less accurate and hit houses, killing and wounding many. It was hard seeing the children brought in. The Luftwaffe had very little in flak as Paris was considered an open city not to be defended. France was bombed heavily by their friends, I read more than 50k were killed during the war. In June, we saw lots of wounded coming from the invasions front. There were horrible wounds, and our doctors were over stretched, more had to be brought in from other nations to aid us. We had two from Sweden, two from Spain, and three from Switzerland along with their nurses so it was sometimes hard to communicate. This hospital treated Allied soldiers as well. We were hearing that the ambulances were being attacked, which was upsetting. One example I remember drove from Lisieux to Paris and was shot up wounding the driver and killing an English soldier who was already wounded. We would send the long term wounded back to Germany, and we heard the resistance was attacking the trains the wounded were on. It was a scary time, we had many French working with us...." - Trude Keller, German Red Cross (D.R.K.) nurse

@lauracarpenter5283 Жыл бұрын

My mother was born in Paris and saw an experienced what had happened to these women. She said that many times the women's heads would not only be shaved but they would be forced to March through the street bare chested as a sign of shame for what they had done. My mother saw many horrific things as a young child. Probably the worst was the Germans killing an American soldier who had parachuted into the area. They tied ropes to each hand and each leg and pulled him apart with four Jeeps traveling in different directions. My mother had many nightmares as I was growing up because of her war experiences.

@PittManGaming Жыл бұрын

May God bless your dear mother and give her peace.

@johntowle Жыл бұрын

That would be the SS not Wehrmacht

@5440bubb Жыл бұрын

where'd they get the jeeps?

@johnmorelli3775 Жыл бұрын

@@5440bubb They must have borrowed them from the US army, LOL!

@lauracarpenter5283 Жыл бұрын

@@5440bubb don't know...maybe they weren't jeeps? Just cars or trucks? My mom was very young when this happened but it left a lasting impression. Don't quibble!

@Shadolife Жыл бұрын

Excellent presentation as always. Thank you.

@tphester Жыл бұрын

I refuse to believe the majority of these women did this voluntarily. People with no food, no shelter, or no safety can't be judged for surviving.

@animusadvertere3371 2 ай бұрын

And yet many others fought rather than collaborating. So yeah, they can be judged.

@bonjourtoi3894 2 ай бұрын

SVP ! Haut et court.

@user-hu5iw4lb4x 2 ай бұрын

To be fair you maybe right but it’s what rage can do , even decent people can do terrible things in an attempt at revenge, but exceptional point you made ❤

@Klonen75 2 ай бұрын

It was voluntarily. The motivation wasn't desparation or stavation. You should try to learn something about the living standart in France during the second world war. For most it was love and romance. Big strong german soldiers marching through the streets where attractive and desirable. Very few women did this. Most women stayed clear of the occupiers.

@AlexanderRogers-zf4wd Ай бұрын

nobody fought, the french are a bunch of pretenders. @@animusadvertere3371

@E-s.thoughts 10 ай бұрын

It should also not be forgotten that among these women there were also some who slept with German soldiers - preferably officers - but were actually spies for the resistance. Resistance members soon realized that this was a perfect way to obtain valuable information. These German soldiers sometimes let things slip of their mouth or left files lying around in a drunken stupor or when they slept with their allegedly collaborating mistress (who was awake and seized the opportunity to look at papers). But it was dangerous what these girls did! Both if they were caught by the Germans or, at the liberation, were regarded as collaborators. Well, I think most of these "James Bond" ladies were safe among resistance fighters when liberation came into view and their job during the war was also clearly announced after the war so that everyone knew who they really were. But still I wonder if that was the case for all these female spies?!

@alexandramenachin6230 Жыл бұрын

Of course Coco Chanel beat it out of town w/her GERMAN COMMANDANT LOVER before the dubious outraged French could get her hair, or publicly rebuke Maurice Chevalier for entertaining the German high command in Paris So they pick on the poor French girls trying to feed their family There was more than enough disdain to go around Paris & the surrounding towns And as Arlette (French actress of the time) said *My heart belongs to France but my ass belongs to me*

@cjclark2002 Жыл бұрын

And the Germans

@alexandramenachin6230 Жыл бұрын

@@cjclark2002 that's was her point a she stood & spoke on the street in defense of these, mostly, young girls

@gordonski9310 Жыл бұрын

Even Edit Piaf was suspected.

@kevindavis5966 Жыл бұрын

"Pick on" the French girls trying to feed their families? Do you know what they did to all the French "boys" trying to feed their families? They summarily executed them all. Sounds like the girls got off light to me.

@alexandramenachin6230 Жыл бұрын

@@gordonski9310 no she never was b/c she worked with high level resistance leaders by going to the German Stalags to entertain the French troops & having her picture taken w/specific French soldiers so that subsequent photo could be used for a fake ID card once they helped that soldier escape

@KimFsharpHarp Жыл бұрын

Some of them may have been saving their families from brutality and starvation. We don’t know what many would do in such a situation. Great vid as always!

@pjbth Жыл бұрын

I dunno looks like most didn't turn to collaboration and managed fine. Those that did took the easy way out and we're justly punished, men who collaberated were executed so these women got off light.

@andyboog2010 Жыл бұрын

Most wouldn't whore themselves out to the people who where murdering their countrymen.

@epaminon6196 Жыл бұрын

@@pjbth Serving their German betters shouldn't have been a shameful course of action for those cooperative Frenchmen.

@azthundercloud Жыл бұрын

Alot of women sold a shot of back for a meal to feed their family.

@epaminon6196 Жыл бұрын

@@azthundercloud A 'hot meal' for a hot meal. Seems fair.

@karoonboomie2813 Жыл бұрын

There is human cruelty everywhere, it will NEVER go away! It’s all around us, it’s up to us humans how we handle it.

@JasonCoffman-xu5ks 2 ай бұрын

Seems like chopping off the hair of someone who gave aid and comfort to the invaders was a rather mild way to "handle" it. You appear to be making victims of the perpetrators. You need to examine some of the horrific things these invaders did to the civilians of the countries they invaded. .If you want nightmares, find some videos of those

@nota-nc8bq Ай бұрын

@@JasonCoffman-xu5ksso how is it the kids fault

@dewardroy6531 10 күн бұрын

Interesting how society applies the term BASTARD to a child who had no say as to whom their parents would be, and son- of- a- bitch to a child whose mother was unable to control them when their actions were NOT those of the mother.

@Drxyz-tk6le Жыл бұрын

I Remeber from Viktor frenkel book - a man's search of meaning. Where he explains that psychological aspect of concentration camp prisoners after they got freed. He explains an incident where he stopped his co-prisoner after their liberation, from walking over crops on a field. The friend replied "I have lost my wife, my children, have been kept as an animal for years, you are saying can't walk over few oats" Frankel later said, a huge part of his psychotherapy was to make his fellow inmates understand that just because wrong was done to them, doesn't give them any right to do wrong to others, in this case destroying a small piece of crop. You don't get a free pass. Because the people who wronged you, also had a reason against you (imagined or real doesn't matter). You have to be good. And there was their liberation. To become whole again. To become normal again.

@theowlfromduolingo7982 Жыл бұрын

Treating the children that were the result of those relationships poorly is just so unfair

@Fatroose Жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you. The children who were born out of these relationships were innocent. If the women could be proved to have cavorted with the Germans, purely for self promotion. And not for a valid reason of feeding or protecting there families. Then they should have been jailed or even expelled (if possible). These public beatings and torture by gangs of mainly men and some women. Were acts of cowardice in my opinion. I can imagine in some parts of France the scenes were similar to the old witch hunting days. If one person took a fancy to a new hat her neighbour was wearing. The cries of "Collaborateur" would be shouted through the village. But to be honest, the amount of French who did collaborate with the Nazis. It probably sounded like an echo. Lol

@theowlfromduolingo7982 Жыл бұрын

@@reginamoro4269 the children are literally a part of this video? Calm down, what is wrong with you? Just my opinion and that’s it...

@shesaknitter Жыл бұрын

@@Fatroose I think it is imprtant to differentiate self promotion from just struggling to survive.

@lesterpittenger5992 Жыл бұрын

Unfair? This was a horrific war.

@theowlfromduolingo7982 Жыл бұрын

@@lesterpittenger5992 Yes? But it wasn’t the children’s fault obviously

@charles1964 Жыл бұрын

My old man told me about this, and that U.S. Soldiers were not allowed to interfere. His brother was a Sgt. in the 26th YD who spoke French, Italian, and some German. They were at this one border town where things (similar to the video above) were getting out of hand and this teenaged girl was begging for them to stop. So my uncle spoke up to his CO and the Marquis ringleader overheard him and mocked my uncle, because he thought he wouldn't understand French. So my uncle answered him, in French "that he didn't come to France to make War on little girls, and if they had been that brave in 1940, he wouldn't of had to" Marquis guy swung on my uncle, so he broke Frenchy's jaw with his brass knuckles. A scuffle ensued, and my uncle got reprimanded by his CO, who later told him he didn't like it either, but they would've just waited for the Americans to leave....My uncle made it through the Bulge, into Czech where the Yankee Division Liberated Gusen Camp. My dad wasn't one for tall tales, but I wonder if there would be some way to verify the story?

@karenwilson712 Жыл бұрын

Your uncle sounds like a bad ass, they don’t make them like that anymore

@charles1964 Жыл бұрын

@@karenwilson712 My older brother used to say that they were all tough as nails, as they all survived the War - places like Tarawa, Saipan, and The ETO - but they were all good people. That particular uncle also stepped on a frozen landmine in Belgium and fought all the way to Gusen concentration camp, so I can only imagine what he survived, no wonder he became a Priest post War. I remember him as a fun uncle that used to pull Half Dollars out of my "dirty ears" and tell me they belonged in my pocket, and died way too young...

@michaelbrett3749 Жыл бұрын

begging them to stop ....who are you referring to? If you going to tell a story make it clear so we can all understand

@WillyEckaslike Жыл бұрын

just proves that women dont love men they only care what you can do for them

@thor7856 Жыл бұрын

So he fights for the right's of the Nazi's and beats down the French man who fought the Nazi's. Your old man must have been a Nazi sympathizer.

@brendajollymore4229 Жыл бұрын

My father was shot in a small town in France, in the lower back and leg. As children, not understanding, we would ask him to tell us about the war. One day, only once in my lifetime, did he tell us about an event. He said they went into the towns in France to liberate them. In one town, a woman who loved the Germans, killed one of the Canadian soldiers…she stabbed him. They caught her. Later they had the towns people gather in the centre of town. The Canadian Sergeant said loudly, anyone who attacks any Canadian soldiers, this will happen to them……………he slit her throat. The look on his face, we NEVER, asked him again.

@surgigi1582 3 ай бұрын

coward men start wars, run away and hide and come back to harass the weak, mostely women.

@surgigi1582 3 ай бұрын

typical men, always a source of danger

@Michael_Hunt 2 күн бұрын

That sounds like a bunch of bologna.

@brendajollymore4229 2 күн бұрын

@@Michael_Hunt You're full of sh..t! I doubt you had a father who went to war. BYW you couldn't be anymore rude. This was my experience and my father was a vet who was shot twice in France. Go back into the hole you came out of since you cannot control yourself to show respect to someone who fought for your freedom.

@killermoon635 9 ай бұрын

Why should we make excuses for women ?? men who collaboratorate with the enemy are executed... even if they did it out of fear Men were executed for desertion... even if they did it out of fear (scared to fight) Not to mention, that women in most cases are not even forced to fight in the war... While young men were forced to fight.

@rbjm Жыл бұрын

WW2 was such an insane and cruel time in history. If we get horrified by what we now know, just imagine the things that we don't get to know about... it was a wild time where cruelty, corruption and perversity ran amok and millions of people showed a lack of regard for human dignity and life.

@morganreigns1984 Жыл бұрын

It's gonna be that way again too :(

@elgasalme9331 Жыл бұрын

Same things happen In Ukraine now. Nothing is changed. Russian men are ready to go and kill because they master wants.

@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 Жыл бұрын

China and Soviet Union kept the party going long after. Their brutality to their fellow man during peacetime is what's disturbing.

@simontrigg9059 Жыл бұрын

@@morganreigns1984 Your're right.Unfortunately war is a consequence of overpopulation and different belief systems,ideologies ect which has been going on for thousands of bloody years.Now it's on a much larger scale.How about making a video on how brutal and systematicly savage the wonderful Romans where?

@morganreigns1984 Жыл бұрын

@@simontrigg9059 overpopulation is a myth perpetrated by those in power to implement the UN's AGENDA21 aka AGENDA2030 by the NWO to seize/abolish private property . if anything we just have high population density via large cities /urban areas but as far as the world entire goes NO most of the world is untouched.

@Redplanetlover Жыл бұрын

I have read about some women who were accused of this but were completely innocent but the crowds were ready to believe anything. A lot of old scores were settled by lying accusers.

@Petal4822 Жыл бұрын

Many of the French head-shavers, were not members of the resistance. Quite a few had been collaborators themselves, and sought to divert attention from their own lack of resistance. Many victims were young mothers, who were had hungry children with no means of support it was not political.

@Enrij Жыл бұрын

Just like today. People belive only what they want to belive. They take sides without knowing what's truly up.

@reneelemke2946 Жыл бұрын

It likely happened

@princejohn6560 Жыл бұрын

Very easy to believe. I can't imagine that many of the women were given a trial where they could defend themselves. All they would have needed were one or two people to point the finger

@coimbralaw Жыл бұрын

Cry about it

@SteffiReitsch Жыл бұрын

Remember the brunette girl in the music group "ABBA"? Her name is Anni- Frid Lyngstad. She was born in 1945 in Norway. Her father was a German soldier who bred with a Norwegian girl during the WWII occupation. Another one was the blonde girl who played as Judy Robinson in the 1960s TV show "Lost in Space." Her name is Marta Kristen, also born in 1945. Same thing: German soldier and Norwegian girl mingling during occupation. Yeah, there were babies born to occupying soldiers and local women, especially in Germany.

@JasonCoffman-xu5ks 2 ай бұрын

In Germany the occupying soldiers would have been the liberators of Europe, who didn't even want to be there. In Norway the occupying soldiers would have been the invaders, who had zero excuse to even be there. NOT similar situations at all.

@SteffiReitsch 2 ай бұрын

@@JasonCoffman-xu5ks NO kid, the similarity is that some women will sleep with enemy occupiers. The same men who kill their brothers, fathers and husbands. Also, in Germany the occupying soldiers were their conquerors , NOT liberators.

@SteffiReitsch 2 ай бұрын

@@JasonCoffman-xu5ks AHAHAHAHAHA NO, in Germany they weren't liberators they were conquerors and occupiers. You don't know what you're talking about, kid.

@JasonCoffman-xu5ks 2 ай бұрын

@@SteffiReitsch Get a life, we people of the US didnt even want to be there, but gave some 60 thousands of young lives to put down someone elses problem. (To put down garbage like you, btw).j Then on top of it, we helped rebuild both Germany and Japan after both had murdered many millions of civilians, and in the case of Germany, about 11 million of their own citizens, and citizens of the countries they occupied. And no, we are not talking about combatants here either. That kind of people are not "conquerors". You wont find a case in history where the US ever had any designs to conquer and rule another country I see that you are about 14 years old, (or mentally that old), but you need to seriously learn some history. Time to grow up and stop trying to defend the evil things grandpa did 8 to 10 decades ago. It isnt doing you one bit of good

@JasonCoffman-xu5ks 2 ай бұрын

@@SteffiReitsch Butthurt some??? Time to stop making excuses for the awful things pappy and granpappy were involved in back then. That mess was 80 years ago. So sorry for you that we ended it, but we did. Move on!! Get your fat ass out of your easy chair, toss that neonazi magazine aside, burn your silly Mein Kampf, get outdoors, get the sun on your sallow face, and smile at the folks around you for a change. I am certain, just like Martin Luther, you tell yourself you are a Christian. He wasnt, and neither are you. Belatedly, try to become one Btw, I am Aryan German whose grand people left Germany in the mid/ late 1800s. By the time WW1 came along, anyone with any sense had left Germany. We Germans have had a long history of being a peculiarly troubled people. When I am 6 yrs old, I am troubling my father as to what happened to our people in Germany in the 20s to 40s. He finally said: "Thru all of history they were a people looking for a leader" . Well, they finally found one. And then we, the US, came along and crucified him. I do love it! Great comedy!!

@johnyare8576 Жыл бұрын

I'm also led to believe a lot of these Women that were finger pointing themselves were using it as a diversionary tactic to mask their guilt during the war.

@renee1961 Жыл бұрын

Your videos are Very Informative, and Very Well Done. I greatly appreciate all your Work you put into every video. I'm Grateful to be learning so much! Thank You, again!

@contingency9 Жыл бұрын

Your narrative has become better and better. I have shared your site as much as possible. Keep up the good work. This was a harrowing subject but people must know and remember, these terrible crimes must never be forgotten on both sides no one was totally innocent. This was War at it's worst.

@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 Жыл бұрын

War. War never REEEEEEE

@genehollon1472 Жыл бұрын

Of A L L the deaths in WORLD WAR ll , WHO STARTED IT, WHO SNEAKLY AMERICA at PEARL HABOR ?Who IMMEDIATELY allied with JAPAN ,against AMERICA? Many other questions may be posed, THESE few however , ABSOLUTELY define the perpetrators of that HORRENDOUS war.

@johnindo6771 Жыл бұрын

Some were much more innocent than others. The US and their Allie’s DID NOT START the war!!!

@louisabridge Жыл бұрын

Punishing collaborators is not a crime. Collaboration is the crime and these criminals got off lightly.

@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 Жыл бұрын

@@louisabridge Weak children of today like to judge history according to their modern standards. They lack the capacity for historic context nor have they seen the horrors of war where you leave all morality aside and things become the law of the jungle.

@v.gopalakrishnan350 Жыл бұрын

Wow, "horizontal collaboration with the enemy" is an interesting phrase to describe that! 😂

@LexlutherVII Жыл бұрын

Lol, very very interesting 😂

@ginmar8134 Жыл бұрын

"Sleep with" is not a synonym for "harassed", "intimidated", & "starving." If you can't say "no" without fear then a "yes" is meaningless.

@tylerjohnson6696 Жыл бұрын

Unless they were full on raped, I have no sympathy.

@Lxx-tc4xc Жыл бұрын

My mother witnessed in her French town the humiliation of women with shaved heads. I never heard her use the term "horizontal collaberation." Often the leader of a group of men jeering and hitting at a woman accused of sleeping with German soldiers, was a jilted French suitor of the accused collaborator.

@coreyham3753 Жыл бұрын

History ... plenty of stories of mankind's awful behavior.

@giorgosfylaktou2610 Жыл бұрын

@@reginamoro4269 VERY SAD 😔 ENDING. AT LEAST THEY SHOULD LISTEN TO THEIR STORIES BEFORE THEY JUDGE THEM. MANY WOMEN GAVE IMPORTANT INFORMATION ON FRENCH RESISTANCE AND THE ALLIES, AND INSTEAD OF THANKING THEM 😀 AND FEEL GRATITUDE FOR THEIR INFORMATION ABOUT GERMAN ACTIVITIES, SOME WOMEN WERE NOT LISTENED WERE SHAVED, HUMILIATED OR EVEN EXECUTED.

@fizzyplazmuh9024 Жыл бұрын

Yes, let's not let our righteous anger run roughshod over the horrible truths people face in war. Then and right now.

@cuanmccarogher180 Жыл бұрын

Correct…human nature and all that…

@TheSteve2305 Жыл бұрын

good they deserved it

@paulmakali8254 Жыл бұрын

I am watching this clip from Mombasa, Kenya, East Africa. I'm married n father of grown-up girl n boy. I still feel the pain of the dear sisters who suffered during the war. Remember these were people's daughters n wives!!Only the Lord can wipe out the tears of their descendants !!

@alainproviste3523 Жыл бұрын

This kind of reprisals against women for sex or love affair with Nazi soldiers took part all over Europe, and probably worst elsewhere than in France, like in eastern Europe. Dozens of French villages or towns have been destroyed by the occupying forces, such as the village of Oradour-sur-Glane in southwestern France. 642 inhabitants were killed, women and children were burned alive in the church. This village has never been rebuilt and today it is a memorial that has been visited by thousands of people from all over the world.

@alainproviste3523 Жыл бұрын

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@johngillespie3409 Жыл бұрын

I learned abbout this from the punk rock band Crass - Shaved women ( 1979 ) very intense song, back in 1989.

@brianallsopp69 Жыл бұрын

I'm sure a load of old scores and petty Jealousies where settled with this as an excuse 🤨 As always a great vid 👍 👏

@docteurlowbat Жыл бұрын

Of course, lots of this was done by that we call in France "last minute resistance". I told about this to my grand mother, and she said that at this time there where no fat people. Their only goal, find food. Jews ? She was afraid because his boss was hiding some and if the germans found them she will be killed. Collaboration ? Bastards that betray France. Épuration ? (purge in english, the french name of theses dark times) The most violent where those who do nothings against the germans. Mens where killed, women "only shaved". "We are civilised, we don't kill women" ... this was an other time ... I only give it as a testimony, pls don't judge 😇

@anthonytaylor9232 Жыл бұрын

Yep. As always, the nasty side of human nature will always 'have its day'!

@surgigi1582 3 ай бұрын

men treat women as properties, they don't want their properties to be used by others, but they run away like little mice and hide.

@surgigi1582 3 ай бұрын

Men start wars and women suffer. Men do not start wars to protect women, but to abuse them.

@Steveross2851 Жыл бұрын

A lot of the "outrage" towards these women was projection. The fact is that most of the French people collaborated with the Nazis during 1940 - 44 to at least some degree. In 1940 when General de Gaulle rejected the Vichy collaborator regime he had hardly any supporters in France and there was almost no resistance to the German occupation at first. Only later as the tide turned, the occupation became more brutal, and more French people realized the Germans would lose the war did French resistance to the Nazi occupiers gradually increase. After liberation nearly everyone in France claimed to have "resisted" the Nazis but in most cases that wasn't at all the case. This was covered very well in a two part 1970s documentary called The Sorrow and The Pity (Mostly in French with Some English).

@gordonski9310 Жыл бұрын

@HARRY KOSSEC sadly you are very wrong. In fact the whole administration collaborated. From the Police, Gendarmes, Notaires, bailiffs, auction houses, civil service, doctors, farmers, train drivers, estate agents, accountants etc. course there was the Milice which prayed in both French born, French Jews & others. There was shortage of food in the town & cities but most people lived in the countryside then. They had ample food.

@Steveross2851 Жыл бұрын

@@gordonski9310you are quite right.

@huwjones8862 Жыл бұрын

@HARRY KOSSEC The De Gaulle army that wasn't let in on the Normandy invasion plans because they could not be trusted? those guys? Or the FFI that magically appeared after the Germans left, then disappeared if there was a chance on the Germans coming back. My Father went through France from Normandy onwards and he said no one trusted the FFI, they were liable to shoot at allied soldiers as much as German ones. Happened to my dad several times.

@knockeledup Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, women were used as scape goats by the French during WWII. I wrote a thesis paper on this for one of my upper level French courses in college.

@gordonski9310 Жыл бұрын

You got it in ONE ! Thank you. Bear in mind for the majority of the French the occupation did not affect them much as long as they towed the line. There was certainly food shortages due to the Germans removing supplies to Germany. I recommend on You Tune the complete film about the Milice - Lacombe Lucien

@uk7900 Жыл бұрын

This is so so terrible. Perhaps there were many untold reasons for so much that happened, and shaving the heads of women is a wicked brutal way to punish, regardless. This should never be done. 😭😭

@frankgraham1996 9 сағат бұрын

The French are NO BETTER than the Germans. And the English are worse.

@Maldoror200 Жыл бұрын

💀..Damn.., REALLY Well done..!! Which is to say, Truly excellent job..Erudite & comprehensive!! ~Peace

@t.j.payeur5331 Жыл бұрын

My father was a glider pilot. During the invasion of Southern France they took fire from a farmhouse and killed the occupants with Tommy guns. Upon inspection, 2 were German soldiers and the other 2, in German helmets and jackets, were their girlfriends. The Dad said that all the Americans were shocked and Very upset by the whole incident.

@Ballterra Жыл бұрын

Rarest of the rare a Glider Pilot huge kudos to your Dad. People don’t realise the responsibility these pilots had just for starters Flak, finding the right place to land and is it safe no traps or obstacles and of course being responsible for getting the troops down on the ground safely. My Dad worked with an ex Glider pilot after the war when he was a young lad in Scotland the pilot gave my Dad his shoulder flashes and cap badge as he was not married and had no immediate family to give them too. They are still among my Dads most prized possessions.

@ksteak27 Жыл бұрын

4 good kills. Kudos to your dad.

@torstenkiessling2933 Жыл бұрын

The guys here, who celebrate other peoples dead here in the forum are just motherfucker. In this case we as Germans should celebrate the Malmedy Massacre where 80 US Soldiers got executed After they allready surrendered.

@terryberkenstock3265 Жыл бұрын

My assistant pasture who rarely talked about the war. Pulled cannons with a truck . When they approached North Africa it was the French forces that was fighting for Hitler, he said they were p'$$t we are trying to liberate France and they are killing us. After north Africa he was sent to Italy. French Navy also sided with the axis power. A world in confusion . But as in most wars the French troops and sailors thr enlisted or drafted new varry little about the politics. And if you didn't follow orders it was the firing squad.

@larrynorman1919 Жыл бұрын

@@terryberkenstock3265 French Third Republic was the Navy unit involved, I hate to say this but the French were, well you know, "french" they blew which ever way the wind blew to stay alive

@williamuhren5639 Жыл бұрын

What gets me is you'll most probably find a good percentage of the idiots carrying out these vile disgusting acts on these women, guilty of collaboration of some kind them selves.

@neilnelmar8007 Жыл бұрын

Those women were triators

@Tom-ze8fn Жыл бұрын

.y My grandfather was a Belgian policeman helping resistance giving them messages in the hills between France and Belgium. He was caught with a colleague during one of these trips and was about to killed by the the firing squad when a french prostitute (who was accompanying the german leader) pleaded for them. He was released and he used to tell me: each time I saw a women accused I kept thinking the ones shaving should have been shaved

@nickfield9492 Күн бұрын

Having grandparents who lived under occupation and an uncle who was Free French, I have zero sympathy for collaborators or traitors.

@RichieRich870 Жыл бұрын

Sleeping with the invading enemy is about THE most disrespectful thing you can do for your homeland.

@irishsakura1 Жыл бұрын

Unless you are purposely spreading a STD to a number of enemy soldiers. During the American Civil War we lost some soldiers from STD related illnesses. More than one way to take down your enemy.

@RichieRich870 Жыл бұрын

@@irishsakura1 very devious. i like it 😂

@limegreenmamba5218 Жыл бұрын

I can think of a few worse things that happened during those times.

@robertchubb1518 Жыл бұрын

Actually...work it out..a young woman in her prime..a young man in their prime...most of the other men away...it’s just human nature. One is living in a rather insular world IF (and has been shown) this sort of thing is going to happen. My grandfather saw this incident of shaming and shaving (for example) shameful and a slur on the French. He was a veteran himself...and stated.. ..” ..what indeed would have happened IF the Germans had got here (England)? Would “they” have shaved the hair off of women for sleeping with GI’s?...” It’s all utterly shameful...and where did/does it stop...? They even tried to accuse bars and restaurants of “collaboration” just for being open and serving Germans!

@robertchubb1518 Жыл бұрын

Don’t forget...it was the POLITICIANS that SIGNED an ARMISTICE/PEACE TERMS with Germany...THEY..the POLITICIANS are the ones responsible for ALL this...but hey..satisfy the “mob” with this utterly shameful demonstration of “SCAPEGOATING”

@fredjennings5312 Жыл бұрын

“Horizontal collaboration”. That’s a new one.

@ksteak27 Жыл бұрын

Gonna try that line on the wife. Wish me luck.

@tomfrazier1103 Жыл бұрын

Not really.

@valerietaylor9615 3 күн бұрын

A new term, but not a new concept.

@gregbolitho9775 Күн бұрын

I heard, that some of the 'horizontal collaborators' worked for the resistance and handed information which was sent to England were unfairly punished too.

@kenwebster5053 Жыл бұрын

Sleeping with the enemy was also a strategy of the resistance to gain information. But of course this was absolutely convincing & secret, so for most, their reward for so bravely serving their country was shame, beatings & death.

@kenwebster5053 Жыл бұрын

@ELIE KOPTER Well I wasn't personally there as I was born in 57 but I have shared what I have known since childhood. I think we can see why this would be very uncomfortable for people to admit. I agree that France is not alone in this. It's just how the vast majority of people of all persuasions behave when there is no effective civil authority to kerb mob retribution. I only posted it in hope that some may be dissuaded from acting upon appearances before the full facts are ascertained.

@klackon1 Жыл бұрын

With so many courageous men and women shaving the heads of these female collaborators, I'm genuinely surprised the German Army was able to conquer France so quickly and decisively. Perhaps it takes a different type of courage to stand up to an armed enemy, than it does to stand up to unarmed women.

@Petal4822 Жыл бұрын

I agree, where were these tough Frenchmen, when the Germans came to to town…putting their hands up and waving the white flag. That is why France fell like a pack of cards. Notice the brave Frenchmen waited until the Germans had gone before they started shaving heads….Aww the bravery.🤣

@Petal4822 Жыл бұрын

How did De-Gaulle managed to reconstitute a new French army while he was hiding in Britain. Is this the same French colonial army that fought against the Allies in ‘ Operation Torch’ in 1942.

@Petal4822 Жыл бұрын

@JEAN PROFFITTE .. The WWII German Army was 80% Horse Drawn; The greatest use of horses in any military conflict in history was by the Germans in WWII: 80% of their entire transport was equestrian. Whereas the British and the US were entirely mechanised. If it wasn’t for the military might of the US the French would still be speaking German.🇺🇸

@Petal4822 Жыл бұрын

@JEAN PROFFITTE .. “The Battle of Britain” saved the British. When they stood alone and took on the entire Luftwaffe and won. Something the French failed to do. It had nothing to do with the sea it was fought in the sky.

@jsbedi60 11 ай бұрын

That is exactly my point. The French military is a joke

@ginalane7540 Жыл бұрын

Who gets to judge here? Never expect to know what you would do in horrific conditions.

@wernerpay2267 Жыл бұрын

Gina, the right words! 🙏

@bobjim245 Жыл бұрын

What are you talking about... if you have sex with an invading army's soldiers, expect some backlash from YOUR soldiers when they return home. Violence isn't needed, but getting your head shaved and paraded around town seems pretty tame compared to the things the people they were involved with were doing...

@setumomahakoe1494 Жыл бұрын

Mow , here come someone with lot of facts...don't know how to behave in terrible, survival mode kick in, and divinity out the window BUT race come in as well.

@sharonc9259 Жыл бұрын

@@bobjim245 I always assumed the women had no choice about fraternizing with the Germans, meaning the Invading aggressive soldiers probably wouldn’t accept rejection.

@bobjim245 Жыл бұрын

@@sharonc9259 those I wouldn't class in the same boat, victims of wartime rape are victims not collaborators, I was specifically speaking about the girls that decided they would take a nazi lover and travel with them around Europe while they fucked up the continent with their nonsense. I know the two were pretty much indistinguishable by the time it all came to pass but I stand by my point that if you DID decide to take a nazi boyfriend as a French women, expect backlash?

@BorisSpinoza 7 ай бұрын

Interesting that as the rule some people, who were enthusiastic that kind of things were guilty of some collaboration. Also, I’d read that some of these women were actually working for resistance.

@kenrehill8775 Жыл бұрын

It shouldn’t be forgotten that the biggest time of recruitment for the resistance was the last two months of the war, when it was already obvious who was going to lose.

@kenrehill8775 Жыл бұрын

@ALAIN TERRIEUR so sexism isn’t a new thing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@gmaillastname8591 Жыл бұрын

So women were punished when the French Army rolled over and surrendered leaving these women to be occupied by German soldiers. Likely these "liberators" took their own inadequacies as men out on women that played the scape goat.

@tempestsonata1102 Жыл бұрын

@ELIE KOPTER Terribly sorry for the civilian hostages, taking them hostage and killing them is a war crime. But I guess you know that no army is obliged to treat a guerilla fighter as a POW?

@surgigi1582 3 ай бұрын

They run away like cowards and came back to take their anger out on women, men

@adjam7782 Жыл бұрын

You may say was it any worse than your neighbours who snitched on you to a German that you were hiding an escaped POW, or somewhere in your house you had a hidden radio. Where I live this happened a lot. Which would lead to their arrest, and then sent to a POW camp, where they more than likely died.

@adjam7782 Жыл бұрын

I said what I said as I live in Jersey in the Channel Islands. So am well aware of what happened to Islanders who hid escaped P.O.W and were told on by there neighbours who they thought were their friends and could trust. It just shows you in time of war, you can’t trust anyone and the saying- “Careless talk, cost lives” Couldn’t be more true.

@OLYMPICHELLO 8 ай бұрын

These women prevented further brutality to der homeland. They were victims of war deserved to b honored n forgiven. Forgiveness is a hard lesson to learn.

@jacquesmertens3369 Жыл бұрын

It's good that you mention the Channel Islands. This is the only occupied area where Germans and locals lived in harmony. The German soldiers stationed there never had to engage in any war activity except at the very end. The local women easily fell in love with the good looking German soldiers. And let's face it: all women were left to themselves for years. How many young, healthy women can be without male company for so long? A German was better than no one at all. And the Germans also provided food.

@jonathanchurch7561 5 ай бұрын

What a terrible comment in light of the dead male soldiers

@jacquesmertens3369 5 ай бұрын

@@jonathanchurch7561 There's no disrespect whatsoever. The German soldiers were there against their will and everyone tried to make the best of a bad situation. No one knew how long the war would last. When the Romans invaded Britain their soldiers also started mixing with the local women after a while. We're not talking about wives cheating on their husband (although that surely happened too), but young girls who never had a boyfriend. They only had Germans to choose from.

@bigp3006 Жыл бұрын

I've often wondered how many of these women were accused wrongfully during this impotent witch hunt.

@bigp3006 Жыл бұрын

Those facts are known, but change nothing.

@bigp3006 Жыл бұрын

@ALAIN TERRIEUR do you think that makes it right?

@Sidiqi Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of the French Revolution, similar - putting the boot (accusation) in!

@Sidiqi Жыл бұрын

@ALAIN TERRIEUR vous avez raison.

@themanformerlycalled Жыл бұрын

The repression after the war was also used the settle differences between neighbours. Often with deadline consequences.

@TheFab9999 Жыл бұрын

My grand mother was one of these womens. Finally have a girl from a german soldier ( My mother). Not a glory years but history for my family.

@giorgosfylaktou2610 Жыл бұрын

THE BABIES 👶 WHO WERE BORN UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES DURING AND AFTER WW2 ENDED, ARE NOT TO BE BLAMED OR SCARRED FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. THEY WERE AND ARE STILL INNOCENT.

@johntowle Жыл бұрын

@@giorgosfylaktou2610 yes we hear you why do you type in CAPS?

@deathmetalweedman3572 Жыл бұрын

@@johntowle MAKES IT EASIER FOR DUMB FUCKERS LIKE YOU TO READ

@dougchance8891 Жыл бұрын

@@johntowle Hi John Same happens to me sometimes. I look at the keyboard when typing-with one finger-when finished-see CAP letters on the screen-. Oops Cannot be bothered to retype.

@giorgosfylaktou2610 Жыл бұрын

@@johntowle BECAUSE I ALWAYS WRITE AND TYPE IN CAPS.

@bazerkly907 Жыл бұрын

Many French Died... These woman got off quite easily! Having your hair cut is NOTHING compared to death !

@genngeorge9909 3 ай бұрын

Well, at least we've learned, right? You never hear anyone trying to get us into wars today, right?

@benoitpellet1657 Жыл бұрын

Having your head shaved and being subjected to public humiliation is pretty awful but I would hardly call it « horrific torture ».

@RapIsDeadly Жыл бұрын

Agree 100%. It's nonsense to call this horrific and torture. Beyond nonsense.

@miapdx503 Жыл бұрын

Watch again. Apparently you missed the bloody beatings, the humiliation, the torture. Just went right by you...😒

@danpozzi3307 Жыл бұрын

@@miapdx503 Problem is that the collaborators with the Germans were responsible for thousands of deaths and real tortured by the SS. Many French women went to their deaths for resisting the German invasion. They were lucky they weren’t shot after their punishment. Doesn’t make it right,

@sonnyblack946 Жыл бұрын

@@danpozzi3307 yup, I guess the poor women were damned if they did and dammed if they didnt😣

@danpozzi3307 Жыл бұрын

@@sonnyblack946 Not all those that slept with the enemy or helped was the occupation we’re poor

@renskeconnell8038 Жыл бұрын

What seems to be overlooked is 5 years (and sometimes longer) is the horrific torture and cruelty (physical and mental) by the occupiers. One quick example: Thousands of Jewish people who were made to clean streets in Germany and Austria on their knees and with bare hands. Millions upon millions of innocent people, Jewish, Slavic, Resistance fighters, Homosexuals, Romas, totally innocent people ETC., were starved, tortured,starved, killed or annihilated by the Germans and their Allies. 20,000 (+) women got their hair shaved and were despised. A year later, most assimilated again and they went on with their lives (as Coco Chanel did) as if nothing had happened. 20 million people did not have that chance... A shaved head an extreme cruelty or mistreatment???

@wombatwilly1002 Жыл бұрын

You do know where Hitler got his Eugenics idea right?

@renskeconnell8038 Жыл бұрын

@@wombatwilly1002 yes W W I do. I also know that Joseph Kennedy Sr., the Duke of Windsor, Henry Ford, Lindbergh, the (then) Pope and many, many more were Pro Nazi. Does that erase the horrors and crimes of humanity committed by Herr Hitler and his lackeys? My opinion and I do not believe further discussion will be fruitful. Thank you.

@wombatwilly1002 Жыл бұрын

@@renskeconnell8038 Wasn't meant to upset you or put blame on anyone but most people don't realize where Uncle Adolf got his inspiration from 😁

@douglasbubbletrousers4763 Жыл бұрын

@@wombatwilly1002 Where?

@wombatwilly1002 Жыл бұрын

@@douglasbubbletrousers4763 The American Eugenics society who had sterilized 65,000 "undesirables" before it was shut down!

@nycrudeboy4753 Жыл бұрын

Here is a factoid: I read a book called "Hellstorm:The Death of Nazi Germany 1944-1947". It was stated that approximately 2 million German women were raped by Russian soldiers once they invaded Germany and the war was won. Young girls to old women were raped repeatedly everyday to the point that some women committed suicide. It's a part of war that no one seems to talk about.

@bonjourtoi3894 2 ай бұрын

Arrêtes, j'ai les larmes aux yeux.

@znowicotton5176 Жыл бұрын

Those whom it was forced upon, or whom hadn't other choice, still were punished.

@peterdebrie Жыл бұрын

Many of these resistance “fighters” became members of the resistance after the Germans left.

@huwjones8862 Жыл бұрын

Very true that. My father who was in France from D Day on said none of the allied forces trusted the FFI as they changed sides at the hint of an allied withdrawal. He was shot at by the French numerous times. They were very brave in victory.

@Petal4822 Жыл бұрын

It’s a shame the French were not keen to actually fight the Germans.

@juliemitchell7873 Жыл бұрын

Never join in with anyone who wants to engage in hurting people simply because they are on the other side or housing people on the other side. The people who try to instigate such things are the enemy and the ones we need to watch out for.

@keanureeve877 Жыл бұрын

Hello, Julie. How are you doing today?

@coimbralaw Жыл бұрын

Okay, Nazi sympathizer.

@sukamedik9739 10 ай бұрын

you sound shaved

@Slikarxxx 5 ай бұрын

@@sukamedik9739 LOL :)

@Beepscat1 10 ай бұрын

The cruelty people inflict on one another is heartbreaking. It seems no one learns.

@johnscanlon2598 Жыл бұрын

I know it’s a awful subject but holy hell , They’re horizontal collaboration with the enemy haha I almost spit my drink across the room , clever choice of words !!!

@seancidy6008 Жыл бұрын

This downplays the killing of Germans' girlfriends', both impromptu and by resistance groups of anyone denounced (even anonymously). My grandfather saw three young French women shot in a Normandy village square (with a British tommy gun) during a public Liberation celebration almost immediately after the Germans left.

@seancidy6008 Жыл бұрын

@DOLLY PRANE The cameras were in places like Paris where the women were often actual prostitutes, who were humiliated but rarely killed. They keep quiet about it but in small towns there were a lot of killings and many were killed as collaborators for nothing more than going out with Germans.. Revenge would be shooting the Germans but these heroes did not have the guts so killed silly girls when it was completely safe to instead. Many thousands of people, not infrequently female, were shot as spies during the battle of France (ie before the Germans had occupied France).The French had something of a predilection for shooting women, and I think some peculiar sexual motive was the basis of it.

@seancidy6008 Жыл бұрын

@DOLLY PRANE I am not sure what your point is as the French females killed after the Germans left were in a great many cases were killed for simply going out with Germans, and the Germans were doing the killing so they ought to have been the objects of revenge attacks. If you want to talk in general about Frenchwomen who were killed in WW2 many if not most most were killed by Allied bombing and artillery.

@gordonski9310 Жыл бұрын

It was the British SOE who bravely flews the planes over France and delivered the ubiquitious and easy to handle/service sten and tommy guns etc

@etubrutus3501 Жыл бұрын

It’s amazing how thin the membrane is that separates us from civility and animalistic behavior.

@shesaknitter Жыл бұрын

Sometimes that membrane is extra thin, even when not in the midst of a war.

@fumblerooskie Жыл бұрын

As humiliating as I'm sure it was, their "torture" pales in comparison to what the Nazis did to prisoners.

@hermione9445 Жыл бұрын

Its a great pity these BRAVE Frenchmen weren't so brave fighting the Germans .. They gave the traditional French salute ..hands in the air ..🖐️🖐️

@hermione9445 Жыл бұрын

@ALAIN TERRIEUR Keep telling yourself that .the fact is the French were a nation of cowards and collabarators .. they haven't had a decent army since Napoleon and we Brits beat him too ..

@benewgillian6823 Жыл бұрын

Rosbief ?

@hermione9445 Жыл бұрын

@@benewgillian6823 What ???

@hermione9445 Жыл бұрын

@@alainterrieur5915 We beat the Germans in both wars ..on land sea and air ..Get over it.

@hermione9445 Жыл бұрын

@@MARKHASSIN-jb9hp Maybe when you're finished Googling and passing yourself off as educated you'll get with the programme ..But l doubt it ..

@suzannebaxter2888 Жыл бұрын

The humiliation and treatment of these women is disgusting. I remember my granddad saying that a lot of the French people were in fact traitors. The UK and France will always have a contentious relationship, even though the war was over many decades ago we Brits know how much they betrayed us my granddad despised them and he never hate anyone. These women probably didn't have a choice. France never shows it's intentions until the very last minute

@brianhenley1732 Жыл бұрын

There are many disgusting episodes in WW2, and a lot of them involve things much worse than shaved heads and public scorn.

@surgigi1582 3 ай бұрын

What do you expect from men, they are only there to abuse women.

@surgigi1582 3 ай бұрын

And these traitors never got punished.

@Petal4822 Жыл бұрын

The French Resistance were mostly working-class men, who escaped into the mountains because they wanted to avoid conscription into the French Vichy compulsory work service to provide forced labor for Germany. They fled to the mountains to avoid deportation to Germany.

@matildadhumxoxo5801 Жыл бұрын

Makes a hell of a lot of sense to me.

@troutaholic8834 Жыл бұрын

Remember the victors always write the history…..

@Petal4822 Жыл бұрын

The German Blitzkrieg does not work. It only works on small, weak, European countries and cowardly France. Blitzkrieg- could not work on the Russians or Britain because Germany could not use tanks, mobile infantry and air support all at the ONE time in a quick surprise attack. Due to Britain having the channel, being an Island and Russia’s vast land mass and cold winters.

@diegoc.8518 11 ай бұрын

@@Petal4822 looks like you need to learn history again, "It only works on small, weak, European countries and cowardly France. " I wonder who has an inferiority complex hahaha

@lorir5728 Жыл бұрын

The whole thing is a complete nightmare. Worst levels of what humans are capable of. The vulnerable suffering. Just disgusting how soviet, american, German etc military men that raped, beat and killed women/girls The numbers are staggering. Just pigs

@brandonshepherd1788 Жыл бұрын

It's easy to look down on this if you didn't live it. Living it no doubt, and knowing what collaboration with the enemy entailed and meant, was a much different story.

@gloriaschwazenhag2252 Жыл бұрын

I’m wondering if you actually lived it. And you haven’t, I don’t see how your comment holds much weight. If you did, expounding on your comment would be interesting.

@brandonshepherd1788 Жыл бұрын

I'm not the one judging these people, Fraulein.

@haroldgodwinson832 Жыл бұрын

Everyone's a tough guy; after the Germans had departed. I suspect there's a lot of 'projection' going on here.

@haroldgodwinson832 Жыл бұрын

@ALAIN TERRIEUR When British Intelligence carried out the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich in 1942, the German's executed approximately 4000 Czech civilians. Given that the British were fully aware of what the Germans would likely do in response to the assassination, it raises the question; were the expected reprisals the underlying purpose behind the operation? This of course raises another question. Since the ambush killing of German soldiers by the French 'Resistance' contributed very little to the actual war effort; was the disproportionate response from the Germans the underlying purpose for this killing.? In other words, was the 'Resistance' killing Germans, wittingly or otherwise, to make sure the Germans kept killing French civilians?

@haroldgodwinson832 Жыл бұрын

@ALAIN TERRIEUR Sure, but we're not discussing the fighting effectiveness of the Free French forces in WW 2. We are talking about the French collapse during the Battle of France (apparently) and the reason for the large number of French civilians killed by the Germans during the occupation. As far as the Battle of France is concerned; it is simply ridiculous, at this point, to suggest that the French military and civil establishment wasn't responsible for the collapse of the Allied Front. Despite the disparity in populations between the French and German nations, the French military was more than capable of successfully resisting the German assault. Due mainly to inadequacies in leadership and military organization, they failed miserably. We can attempt to distort history as much as we like but the Battle of France could have been won by the Allies if the French leadership, civil and military, hadn't lost it's nerve.

@factsdontcareaboutyourfeel7204 Жыл бұрын

@@haroldgodwinson832 It was exiled Czech government who ordered that assassination, not the British . Get your facts right .

@haroldgodwinson832 Жыл бұрын

@@factsdontcareaboutyourfeel7204 I stand by everything I said. Yes, the idea for the Heyrich assassination was conceived by a Czech, but the operation was planned and facilitated by MI6 and the the British Government. The UK based CGIE had no capacity, at all, to mount an operation of this kind. Surely even you would understand that. And the point that I was making remains. The CGIE was made to feel embarrassed by the easy relationship that had developed between the Czech people and the German occupation. They felt compelled, because of that British pressure, to undertake an act of resistance that would turn Czech citizens against the occupation. It was understood, only too well, that killing Heydrich would spark a ferocious German response. That response (the murder of thousands of Czech citizens), was intended to change public opinion in Czechoslovakia and was the primary purpose of the operation. That was fully understood by the British and Czech governments alike.

@factsdontcareaboutyourfeel7204 Жыл бұрын

@@haroldgodwinson832You can stand by whatever you like , it doesn’t make it factual ..

@la8rattab973 Жыл бұрын

I know a guy who was a soldier in Belfast during the troubles. Local girls who had gotten into relationships with the squadies were occasionally found chained to the railings outside the barracks some tarred and feathered..

@OLYMPICHELLO 8 ай бұрын

They should b honored, forgiven, n b compensated n b taken care of with full social benefits. Victims of criminal acts should have no statue if limitations.

@HairDom 9 ай бұрын

I would of loved been a barber for collaborators. What a thrill clipping off all that beautiful hair in front of a crowd.

@j0nnyism Жыл бұрын

British officers who tried to stop this were threatened and told to stop interfering. A shameful incident all around

@thor7856 Жыл бұрын

WHY? France was their country, so the American and British can now tell the French what to do?

@j0nnyism Жыл бұрын

@@thor7856 would you just stand and watch then?

@fiveowaf454 Жыл бұрын

Given how large a part of France was officially in a collaboration with Germany through the Vichy Government it seems somewhat unfair as to who was singled out for punishment and who was not, although I can understand the ire of the ordinary person against the Nazi rulers and those were associated with them. It's easy to be judgmental in hindsight of this behavior, but we need to remember the atrocities carried out by the Nazis and the big part informants etc. played in the torture and execution of many resistance fighters and civilians during WW2.

@doubletrouble9503 Жыл бұрын

@ELIE KOPTER but strangely, that didn't stop hundreds of thousands of French men and women from collaborating with the occupier , especially the Milice and the Charlemagne SS division

@Petal4822 Жыл бұрын

Where were these tough Frenchmen, when the Germans came to town…putting their hands up and waving the white flag. That is why France fell like a pack of cards. Notice the brave Frenchmen waited until the Germans had gone before they started shaving heads….Aww the bravery.🤣

@fiveowaf454 Жыл бұрын

@@Petal4822 It's best I don't comment on the actions of the French, if I get started I might not be able to stop ;) and then I might get into a rant about the countries whose governments thought being neutral and letting others do the fighting was an appropriate option when you have someone intent on conquering the whole of Europe, including your own country. In fairness there were some very brave French resistance fighters who risked all against the Germans, however a lot more acted as you pointed out.

@fiveowaf454 Жыл бұрын

@@Petal4822 I can only guess the French who weren't in France were emboldened by the fact they weren't in France, while many who were there chose collaboration, over resistance.

@reginamoro4269 Жыл бұрын

@@Petal4822 you had better shut up about subjects you are not that sure about. My father got the Croix de Guerre avec palmes for what he did in that war. And he was in the resistance. Among other things.Although I don't expect you to know what that meant and how few of those medals were given.

@wfcoaker1398 Жыл бұрын

"We British have not known invasion and occupation in 900 years and so are perhaps not the best judges." Indeed. That also applies to most, if not all, of the people posting here.

@KeshavGurung Жыл бұрын

"Horizontal collaboration with the enemy" interesting phrase

@marktercsak9728 Жыл бұрын

So the Frenchies couldn't beat the German Army in the field and four years latter they take it out on the ladies.

@thibod07 Жыл бұрын

Those were excessively hard time for every body. Thank you for sharing a time that we all hope does not happen again.

@reneelemke2946 Жыл бұрын

That would be lovely but it never stopped

@surgigi1582 3 ай бұрын

What tf are you talking about, it's about the abuse of women by these coward soldiers, the same men that went out and enjoyed klling. Who cared about men and what they went through, no one does, not me.

@gyurmethlodroe1774 9 ай бұрын

Their crime is not just sleeping with the german...these women reported about resistence movement to their lovers. They had so much disdian for freedom fighters.

@marvwatkins7029 Жыл бұрын

Such a compassionate people.

@benewgillian6823 Жыл бұрын

Mate, you have no clue what the French went through during the occupation... What would you expect, for them to give these women big hugs and a kiss on both cheeks ?

@anatolib.suvarov6621 Жыл бұрын

My grandfather, a WWII veteran told me of coming across two French resistance soldiers beating up, and preparing to murder two Wehrmacht pioneers (demolition troops). He had his driver stop, got out, and in perfect French ordered the Frenchmen to stop. They stopped, looked at him quizzically, then one of the Frenchmen began to raise his rifle to shoot one of the German soldiers. My grandfather withdrew his M-1911A1 and fired one round into the dirt at the rifle-armed Frenchman's feet. Told him in French that these two Germans were his POWs. If they had a verifiable reason to execute them they needed. to file a report with the Provost Martial. If not, they would be guilty of a War Crime for murdering a POW, and he, a Major, would see them hung! The Frogs walked away. He took them to the MPs. Months later he heard that a French Resistance commander in that area filed a complaint with the area Provost Martial about an American Officer "interfering" with his men carrying out "justice". The PM told the Frenchmen that his men were Lucky. That Officer would have surely killed the two Frenchmen had they not surrendered the prisoners. The Frenchman asked why? The PM told him that officer was the JAG for the Corps and is a stickler for the rules. He would have killed your men, brought in their bodies, and the two POW's, then filed a report explaining the usage of the three rounds of ammo. That was my grandfather in a nutshell!

@thor7856 Жыл бұрын

Yea a pencil pusher, Nazi's overrun France ,rape French women by the thousands, kill tens of thousands of men women & children and your grandfather takes the side of the Nazi's. Sounds like what a desk jockey story to make himself look like a Rambo.

@thomasborgerhoff706 Жыл бұрын

Nice story thank you

@SirAntoniousBlock Жыл бұрын

_'Frogs'_ You're racist and grandfather was a Nazi sympathiser.

@SirAntoniousBlock Жыл бұрын

@@caudron5926 Bien sûr. 😅

@jharris0341 Жыл бұрын

Respect

@clouddog2393 Жыл бұрын

The French never got over the shame and humiliation of being occupied hence the over the top and cruel retributions carried out when they were liberated . Not a condemnation as we do not know how we would react in a similar situation . War strips people of their humanity and makes then act brutally and out of character .

@gordonski9310 Жыл бұрын

Right. See Tulle massacre as an example

@huwjones8862 Жыл бұрын

@ELIE KOPTER It wasn't an "accident" it was a highly organised cock up by the French authorities. Every time the British would make a stand, usually successful, the French would fold on their flanks making them retreat. Granted that some French units did well, but most did not.

@huwjones8862 Жыл бұрын

@ELIE KOPTER Some units did well. Many others did not, especially the higher up officers.

@Petal4822 Жыл бұрын

@ELIE KOPTER It wasn’t an accident…the French gave in and waved white flags.

@benewgillian6823 Жыл бұрын

Oradour-sur-Glane massacre...

@PeterWoodstorrechianca Жыл бұрын

When I was a kid (in London)a single woman with a child lived in a house, she had a son about the same age as me about 8 or 10 I think , the boy was called "Bimbo" was that his real name I do not know, people said the father was a German, he was my friend but a family in my street said do not be friends with the half German and the mother was called a slut, the other kids used to taunt him and sometimes punch him, so according to me were as bad as the French, I wonder what became of Bimbo?

@Sergius248 Жыл бұрын

Evil generate evil, and evil has no national boundary or ethnicity. That why it is so important for any civilising progress to judge individual responsibilities and abhor collective ones. Humanistic progress is slow and applied in ways that are often far from ideal, but it is somehow comforting to note that the rebound from great acts of barbarity is generally less horrific than the hate that generated them in the first place. These women were subjected to ordeals that should not have taken place, but at least were not rounded up in an organised deportation to extermination sites. As I wrote, "evil generate evil" and anyone willing to fight to foster what is good and decent in our human nature should take its weakness, capacity for hate and misrepresentation into account. Sadly.

@louisabridge Жыл бұрын

They were collaborators and got what they deserved.

@Sergius248 Жыл бұрын

@@louisabridge "Collaborators" should be judged for what they actually have done, lest one would substitute evil for evil.

@richardshiggins704 Жыл бұрын

France of all places , the whole country was a collaboration ! I wonder if Coco Chanel had her head shaved ?

@Playwright62 Жыл бұрын

Resistance members were extraordinarily brave.

@Texas_Made6990 Жыл бұрын

Yeah my great uncle was there. And said one of his biggest things he worried about keeping him from heaven was a situation with a woman. They kept sending guys out over a month period and they kept getting killed and it was like the nazis new what they were doing. Well on Nighy one of the local women who had been bringing them food and supplies and a little side booth brought some food and made the mistake of not checking it and they found a nazi symbol on some of the food and shot her dead at the table. He never got past that one but couldn't let her live cause of the countless friends she had gotten killed and was overtaken by emotion. Brutal shit these guys had to go through. Maybe if she had been shaved they would have been able to know she was colluding with enemies and stopped this before it got worse or to the level it dod

@marylou3995 Жыл бұрын

As a women I am not going to judge these women- war, fear, hunger - what would you do to feed your family and stay safe.

@Michael_Hunt 2 күн бұрын

Not be a traitor first of all.

@Boilingfrogg 2 күн бұрын

@@Michael_Hunt precisely.

@nsbd90now Жыл бұрын

A sad and disturbing juxtaposition with your video on the teenage girls of the resistance executed by the Nazis.

@eagleman1542 Жыл бұрын

I had my head shaved the second day of Basic Training and saw a few GUYS cry; it must have been ten times worse for these ladies.

@ramonlucas2032 3 ай бұрын

Those guys were pussies.The Drill instructor made me clean the bathroom with a toothbrush because I was laughing at his face .I remembered my brother who looked like him.I was one of the “Weird” ones who enjoyed bootcamp.I was called “grand Pa” since I was the oldest.GrandPa beat them all in push ups and sits ups

@rockyrowlands3652 Жыл бұрын

One of the children born to the German occupiers was the one of the female singer in ABBA.

@nigellee9824 7 ай бұрын

A lot of people across Europe had far worse treatment...a shaved head was hardly barbaric...

@Petal4822 7 ай бұрын

For a woman it was barbaric.

@Petal4822 7 ай бұрын

All those brave French souls who had kept their heads down and collaborated with the occupying force. Suddenly became bravely patriotic shaving the heads of women and executing those who outwardly collaborated with Nazi occupying forces?

@Petal4822 7 ай бұрын

The French suffered a humiliating defeat in June 1940. Fortunately Britain was victorious in the ‘Battle of Britain’ in July 1940.

@marktercsak9728 Жыл бұрын

Uncle John once asked me Mark, How many Frenchmen does it take to defend Paris? I said, I donot know Uncle John , was my reply, Uncle John shot back neither did we. In WW1 if if had not been for the Brits, the Scots, the Welch, the Irish, Australian s, Candians , Belgian troops, New Zealander, French Colonial Forces , British Colonial Forces, etc, Paris would have fell in 1914. Just like it fell in 1940. The sad part of this whole affair is this could all have been avoided in 1919, had France and the British acted like America who signed it's own peace deal with Germany. Nazism would never have risen. Thus they only got themselves to blame.

@mroggie8334 Жыл бұрын

It is easy to be a bully when you are part of a big mob...

@benewgillian6823 Жыл бұрын

And the biggest mob was the Nazis, in occupied France.. Tulle massacre Oradour-sur-Glane massacre......

@cr1m203 8 ай бұрын

And those women were part of the biggest mob and bullies of them all the NAZIs until they lost. Doesn’t feel good when it’s done back to you now does it?