Just boil the kettle, while the water is boiling hold the microfiber cloth over the kettle, damp the microfiber cloth by holding it over the steam, then wipe the record with the damp cloth, you will have almost zero static, thanks for the video.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I'm too impatient to wait for boiling water ;-)
@hifitommy Жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack moisture is the enemy of vinyl. moisture plus dust = mud. in very arid climates (think Alaska), a whole house or even a room humidifier is a logical solution. we all have an uncalibrated, but very effective static meter with us. the hair on the back of your forearm will be drawn away from the skin when that anatomy is held over the grooves of the LP. you WILL feel it. test before and after; after you won't feel any static attraction of hair. the Zerostat is HIGHLY effective used just after play and prior to replacing it in the jacket. no need to use a Zstat before playing the record, the static field will collapse into the ground plane of the turntable..
@thevinylattack Жыл бұрын
@@hifitommy Moisture if left unattended, yes. Cleaning a record with water is not only the best way to eliminate static but to clean an album as well, however. If people want (or need) to treat an album for static with a Zerostat with every play, it certainly doesn't harm anything, so to each their own.
@daniel_dumile5 ай бұрын
@@thevinylattackis this because zero stat takes a long time?
@woodstock4803 жыл бұрын
Dude, I love these "experiment" videos! Thanks!
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you like it.
@pauljanosik3712 жыл бұрын
Fantastic content. Thank you for taking the time to methodically perform the tests most of us wish we could do but wouldn’t know where to start. Your videos on the Milty and Destat have helped form a clear picture of what’s happening with static and methods to neutralize. Thank you!
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you watching.
@johnmbell46423 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris thanks for doing this myself I use the zero stat followed with the gold brush I think the gold brush does an excellent job removing dust never really thought of it as removing static even though it claims it can. I use the brush more or less as directed I remove the brush by running it off the edge while touching the rotating platter lightly with a finger from my other hand hoping to draw off any static that I thought I may have been introducing by dragon in the brush on the record or so I thought🙂 have a great memorial day probably couldn’t ask for a nicer weekend here in Michigan🇺🇸🇺🇸👍
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
That's pretty much the same habit I have when I'm playing a record.
@S.A.S.H. Жыл бұрын
I would love to see the same test done with different platter mat materials. Especially the wool felt some turntable manufacturers like to include with their tables. Versus rubber like most Japanese tables use, and even things like the Herbie's Way Excellent and various acrylic, both solid and foamed acryli. Oh, and Delrin and acrylic platters without a mat.
@C100114 ай бұрын
This is actually very practical, and thank you. I do want to point out a few confounding variables which should be considered... We need to understand: 1) The triboelectric properties of all materials involved, 2) The sequence and process of static charge build up... 1). Vinyl records easily capture electrons and hold on to them, forming negative charge. If you rub vinyl against a material that easily donates electrons, like wool or glass, you will create an increase in charge differential, aka more static. Common rubber mats of turntables are also electron grabbers, but not as much as vinyl plastic. So as a weaker electron grabber, rubber mats will actually tame the negative charge on the vinyl records a bit. This was demonstrated by your experiment all across. Carbon fibers are supposedly with a small conductive property but very stable and will not donate or grab electrons, hence why the manufacturers advertise anti-static properties, which is actually not factual. Carbon fiber will not worsen static charges. It can potentially conduct the charge away if it is attached to a material of electron grabbers., such as your body.. Now let us look at 2). The sequence of process. When a vinyl record is taken out of the paper sleeves, it will certainly pick up a lot of charge simply from the friction with the paper sleeve... This is why all the vinyl records will register with high charge when first removed from the sleeves, and this is tamed a bit when placed on the rubber platter of the turntable. Rubber is not conductive, so it is not that great at totally taking the electrons away from the vinyl. Then, during playback, the stylus will create static charges on the vinyl simply by way of friction, and then removal from the rubber mat after completion of playback, negative static charge will immediately build up again on the vinyl record... So, when you brush the vinyl record on your hand, you are actually altering the validity of the experiment because you were allowing more time for the vinyl record to dissipate the charge with the brush while in the air... While you cleaned the records on the turntable, the record was in contact with an inert material, rubber. This methodology also increases the surface area contact (friction) and pressure. You certainly cannot put as much pressure, with the same surface area contact, when trying to brush the record by hand held method... You really cannot change the above, because that was the manufacturer instruction. However, time is the one variable neglected that needs to be controlled in this experiment... How much time did you take from first withdrawing the record from the paper sleeve, whether cleaned by a brush or not, or a brush of any inert material, until you placed the record on the rubber mat with similar triboelectric properties...? It would be interesting to see what the outcome measures will be if the entire sequence is timed... When you wet clean a record, you are basically neutralizing all the charges... In practical term, what matters is how to combat negative static charge build up as the stylus is creating friction on the record while the record is playing on a turntable mat... I have seen "audiophiles" buying expensive glass, leather, and even wool turntable mats! These materials will just easily donate more electrons to the vinyl records, already getting a heap of friction from the stylus! The cheapest and most common turntable mats provided by manufacturers are made of rubber for a good reason. More exotic ones come with hefty copper mats (unfortunately, then you are looking at resonance issues if the patter is not heavy enough, but then that adds to shipping fees to the vendors, adding more cost). It would be interesting to see all the above taken into consideration for more experiments...
@CT-ps8zl3 жыл бұрын
Your content is always interesting and enjoyable. Thanks for that. I have given up brushes altogether in favor of the sticky roller. Like you I always wet clean a new/new old record and place in a anti-static sleeve. Before dropping the needle I roll the record to remove any residual dust/debris and hit with the anti-stat gun . Works very well for me. Keeps my stylus clean and my vinyl quiet.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you've found your system and it works. I'm glad to hear it.
@VideoArchiveGuy2 жыл бұрын
Every sticky roller I've tried clearly left a residue on the album surface, even those sold by audio retailers.
@CT-ps8zl2 жыл бұрын
@@VideoArchiveGuy I haven’t noticed any residue or I’ll effects from using the sticky roller. That doesn’t mean it’s not there - just I haven’t found it to be problematic. That said, of late I have been using the carbon fiber brush more for lighter dust/debris, reserving the sticky roller for heavier accumulations. I appreciate your comment and will look more carefully after rolling.
@fusionfan68833 ай бұрын
A sticky roller specifically produced for record cleaning ruined loads of my records by leaving small patches of sticky residue. This residue also contaminated the stylus. No way would I use them again not least because they do not work! They only lift dust from the surface of the record, not the dust in the grooves that actually cause the crackling. Also never wet a record with tap water as it can leave mineral deposits.
@CosmicKnight13 жыл бұрын
“Scratch the dogs nut” had me laughing out loud. Awesome! Love your videos!
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@johnparks61724 ай бұрын
Interesting review. Thanks for the demonstrating. I've used all of these brushes including the ZeroStat. I stopped using the ZeroStat years ago. It just wore out and I never replaced it. This was way back when CDs were coming to market and record care products became scarce. Since then I've been wet/dry cleaning my records and noticed that static would dissipate after washing. Using the Thunderon brush after cleaning dissipates static indefinitely. And though the instructions don't indicate this, I've used it on the platter mat with noticeable results. No static remains. My recommendation is to use the Thunderon brush on your record mat and after your cleaning method before you place your record on the turntable. The next time you play your records use the AudioQuest brush (I actually have the MoFi equipment). The only tool I don't have is what you used to measure static.
@thevinylattack4 ай бұрын
That brush did nothing for me, unfortunately.
@christopherklinck3 жыл бұрын
You and Frank remain my consistent favorite subscriptions (it has become something I look forward to every week). I appreciate the work, time, and presentation, every time. Best to you and yours today and every.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I very much appreciate that. I watch every vid Frank puts out as well. I still think he's the gold standard in youtube for this hobby.
@DevonRegan2 жыл бұрын
What channel is Frank?
@christopherklinck2 жыл бұрын
@@DevonRegan Channel 33rpm.
@DevonRegan2 жыл бұрын
@@christopherklinck thanks
@VMX1.3 жыл бұрын
Great Vid Chris....all the best.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Thanks much.
@quikspecv4d3 жыл бұрын
Just started the video. In my experience the brush doesn’t remove static. It just doesn’t add when brushing. Let’s see! Also, i moved from a cb brush to a sticky roller to remove dust. I only use the cb brush to remove dust from my acrylic platter.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Those rollers intrigue me, it doesn't seem like they'd be able to reach where the dust resides.
@flyingkillerrobots8773 жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack They actually work pretty well.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
@@flyingkillerrobots877 I may take a look at one eventually.
@gunnarkarlsson195 Жыл бұрын
I have a carbon fibre brush from Decca that I've had for about 30 years. It has a certain spot on it where you are supposed to put one finger giving contact from the record to your body. The electrons have to have somewhere to go. My experience is it takes down the static a lot. Less pops. I also found out that by lightly holding a finger from my other hand to the edge of the record I get even better result. I guess it makes a kind of short circuit and my body is an accumulator.
@joonapengerkoski3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video again & Greetings from Finland!
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for dropping by!
@skellexis4048 ай бұрын
Thank you for the so-called “redundancy” for us noobs out there. I’m sure you must have many extreme audiophile viewers, but as a beginner it’s nice to have experienced people to learn from that explain thoroughly.
@thevinylattack8 ай бұрын
I try to cover all the bases when I can.
@hashman31713 жыл бұрын
Of all the things I didn't know has turned to all the things I need to know,great video again and I'm buying a shirt and sticker !! I am just amazed at your knowledge on this ...amazing!!!
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked the video and I really appreciate the support.
@joemayes10203 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the static class, as always you make it seem interesting I was wondering about the Radio Shack tape head demagnetizer. As mentioned in one of the comments.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I'll take a look and see what I can find. Thanks for the suggestion.
@jeremyr7223 жыл бұрын
This is great! I have one of those Disc Washer brushes from the 70’s. You know, with the little bottle of cleaner that slides inside the grip? It was my dad’s. Also I got that ronx lighter for anti-stat purposes that you reviewed awhile back.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I'd say those would work very well in combination and it didn't cost you very much either.
@TheGooch71283 жыл бұрын
Great testing. I use an old credit card to clean my brush. The brush i use is the 57 POWERS Record Cleaner Brush Dust and Static Elimination COREBRID-B. I ruined 1 record with those small ones you have,they are so small ,lost control and it fell on the record scratching it.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I personally wouldn't ever try the whisking motion again with one of those small bristled brushes. At least it was just a test LP.
@davidrandall19533 жыл бұрын
Here is my question. When a physical object like an anti-stat brush makes contact with with record surface, at some point doesn’t that brushing actually generate more static electricity? Can you add extra static through vigorous brushing? If so…then doesn’t that mean the effectiveness is on a curve, with a little bit possibly being helpful but too much being counterproductive? Just wondering.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
@@davidrandall1953 It could very well be possible yes, but I'm afraid I don't have the patience to test that. I achieved results with light brushing for maybe 10 - 15 seconds or so, but I still think using the plasma lighter is easier and more effective.
@andromedaneoprog3 жыл бұрын
I used to use the silver audioquest and yes, it does make fine scratches to the record. It was kind of an urban legend on some sites but i can confirm it. I've read the instructions prior use, didnt press the brush into the record at all so yes, i do agree with you and wouldnt recomend that brush at all. Great work as usual!! Greetings!
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
It's certainly not a brush I'll use again.
@michaelriner11813 жыл бұрын
My experience was the same. Use spin clean for intense cleaning, and rely on old Disc Washer for routine dust removal. Static still a concern, especially during winter months.
@andromedaneoprog3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelriner1181 im actually using the Vinyl Vac along with mofi record brushes and havent look back since. I've been getting quite good results using this system.
@event42163 жыл бұрын
I wish I had read this a month before when I unpacked new record, saw dust on it and after wiping with CF brush was horrified to see traces of using brush all over surface on what minute ago was mint record. Lesson learned!
@andromedaneoprog3 жыл бұрын
@@event4216 it was the same thing that happened to me. Brand new record destroyed by a product that was made to "take care of" your record. Since then, i go spreading the word about the issue to help people avoid those brushes. One that i would highly recommend is the Mofi brush. Great product and no scratching at all.
@JtBrown-el4xt3 жыл бұрын
I always heard that you're supposed to move the brush towards the spindle and to touch it to discharge the static. It's probably bologna, but who knows. Great video man. Love the content.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Because I was grounded the whole time, I can attest that touching the spindle wouldn't have made any difference. But, I've heard that for years as well.
@NiiOnLood Жыл бұрын
I don't think most turntables have their spindles grounded somewhere...
@zacharyjames18483 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this one. Excited to see what happens! Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦
@nanchanger3 жыл бұрын
so what happened?
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy!
@myquealer3 жыл бұрын
I love all the static testing you've been doing. It's a welcome change to see someone using scientific methods in their testing. I wonder if you can test different mat materials to see if they make a difference in the huge drops you see when putting it on a turntable. Felt, cork, acrylic, leather, rubber etc.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Mats are something I'm looking at, but it'll take a bit as I need to purchase all the supplies.
@myquealer3 жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack Thanks! It would also be interesting to measure the static on the B side after using a proven tool on the A side. And test how much static sliding in and out of various inner sleeves creates. Who knew there could be so many tests to do related to static on records?....
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
@@myquealer That's something I'm looking at and just figuring how to add to a video. Just testing two sides of a records wouldn't be very exciting without some additional content ;-)
@myquealer3 жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack Right, I meant testing if removing the static from one side affects the static level on the other side. Without knowing a lot about static charge, I could imagine the static on both sides is removed, the static on the other side is unchanged, or the charge from the treated is somehow pushed to the untreated side and so the static is increased. Probably not worth an entire video, but could be included on a future static testing video.
@possiblystevo91413 жыл бұрын
another useful video, plenty of food for thought here. the plasma lighter was a revelation too, ive had great success with it ! a little off the static topic but where dust is concerned I find it helps to to lower my stylus onto a magic eraser sponge before each side. the diamond lifts dirt out of the groove, the nano fibres grab everything of the diamond- prolonging the life of both it and the records it plays. each sponge costs pennies. could be something to investigate on your channel one day :)
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I've heard of that, but I haven't tested it yet as I'd need a microscope that's both powerful and flexible enough to see the results.
@Rigs2753 жыл бұрын
Chris another great video and good information
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it.
@tonyharrison25423 жыл бұрын
Nice work Chris. Over the years, I have tried and used numerous brushes to help deal with record dust and static. It's been my experience that while some are effective with the elimination of dust, not so much with static reduction. Several years ago, I invested in an Ultrasonic cleaning device to replace a VPI unit that I had been using. For me, the Ultrasonic cleaner has been a godsend in terms of record cleaning, and minimizing dust and static. I don't seem to experience the same degree of problems with dust or static as I once did.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
A quality wet clean is a sure fire way to get rid of that static.
@arthurwiens27624 ай бұрын
Thanks for your work. Not as sexy as reviewing brand new equipment but enlightening on a day to day basis. Also, you have a good way of coming across as unbiased and humble. Won't buy a brush to eliminate static though thank to you. Still debating on the expensive remedies... My Sony PS155 finally died (don't laugh). It sounded good or so I thought. Bought a Pro-Ject X2 to replace it (I have more money now than 38 years ago and now I realize my whole stereo experience needs a rethink...) Thanks again.
@thevinylattack4 ай бұрын
I'm glad to hear you find the videos helpful.
@johnholmes9123 жыл бұрын
i used carbon fibre brush for years, and have given up on it the classical method of cleaning using a felt pad drawn from the inner groove to the outside edge is superior solution for me deeper clean is a chieved by using cyberclean putty machine cleaning only on new 2ndhand aquisitions
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Any pad in particular you're fond of?
@hoobsgroove2 жыл бұрын
I think natural goat hair is better than carbon well it is for cleaning but I think it reduces static better as well. you should be able to buy a 6-inch by 2-inch painters brush made from goat's hair they have a metal band around. when cleaning you should clean the platter Mat first with the damp goat hair brush, rinse the brush and then do the record
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
I might look into that.
@skipnick3 жыл бұрын
I've been having great results killing static on clean or new vinyl with: Putting the record on the player, putting cleaning solution down in a line center to outside, spin the record using the felt brush until it's gone, using the dry edge to dry, and then anti static brush to finish. Definitely drops the static amount.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I'd fathom a guess that what's actually happening is the static is just bleeding off into the table and coming back when you pick the record up. Might be worth checking out.
@skipnick3 жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack oh good point. I noticed a new vinyl, freshly loaded with static from its sleeve, absolutely had a draw to the platter when I went to flip it to the other side immediately after putting it down. I should mention im using a *acrylic* platter *mat* on a debut Carbon Evo. And I also picked up the grounded static brushing arm, although not convinced it works much. Have you any thoughts on the *acrylic* mat? Maybe that is absorbing the static. Regardless, Whatever I'm doing works very decently !
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
@@skipnick New records are usually the worst culprits for static so I'm not surprised you had issues there. The static brush arm is something I'd like to take a look at myself, but I have my reservations about its effectiveness. Can you tell me which mat specifically you're using? I'd love to read up on it more.
@skipnick3 жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack I apologize i meant to say *acrylic* mat. Here is exactly what I bought: www.amazon.com/dp/B08H52BXY1/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_imm_awdb_VFFHYNABZX2WXWYDBKJT As far as sound, I do have excellent recording gear and microphones, I can record a comparison and let you know what actual differences there are.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I'll take a look at it. Thanks.
@Sarge_723 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have found these carbon fiber brushes are great at collecting all the dirt into a nice line with record off the TT and makes it easier to remove before I use wet cleaner. Great call out on the Bob Ross technique 👍🏻
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
It would seem that dusting LP's is pretty much what they do best.
@baddestgrampa85433 жыл бұрын
Great video. You should try demagnetizing also with a video/audio tape eraser. I picked an old RadioShack model a few weeks ago and noticed a very nice result when trying it on vinyl and even CD’s.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I will check it out.
@AndyP1263 жыл бұрын
Don't demagnetize records using a tape eraser on a direct drie turntable. Those things use electromagnets to turn the platter.
@baddestgrampa85433 жыл бұрын
@@AndyP126 Agreed. Definitely do it away from any electronics. Never on a turntable
@AndyP1263 жыл бұрын
@ LOL!
@playbackamusicloversjourne86203 жыл бұрын
Good video. If you haven't already tried it add a small amt of quat such as Behentrimonium to your ultrasonic bath. I've cleaned my collection of 1k lps in my Kirmuss US cleaner using Distilled water, 2% IPA, Triton X100 & a small amt of Behentrimonium and have not had any issues 6 months after finishing.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I'm a little hesitant to add anything waxy to the mix.
@playbackamusicloversjourne86203 жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack As you are into comparative test why not give it a test try on a couple of albums that you know have a static issue and play alot. I'm only adding 1/3 tsp in a 6 litre US bath so the amount is almost negligible but very effective and a lifetime supply costs about $15 on Amazon. It's fairly safe to use as it's a component added to alot of hair conditioner products. It has to be disolved with a small amt of hot water at about 180 degrees before adding to the tank.
@LessTalkMoreDelicious Жыл бұрын
I've used my current CF brush to dust about 150 of my old recs so far (before putting into new, upgraded poly inners). But, I ordered a Thunderon this week, to hopefully help speed up the process and/or better dust removal. I still have about 300-350 recs to do. Your vid seems to show similar static-reduction and inconsistency for both CF and Thunderon; but, they do seem to work, even if just a little. The biggest Cons of the CF brush I find is: 1.) The bristles are waay too short, resulting in the hard-plastic-handle's edges and corners dangerously close to the face of the record, esp while doing fast swiping motions. I've already accidentally nicked or scratched 5+ recs because of this (out of 150+ recs, so not a bad ratio). I am super careful too. The Thunderon will be a nice upgrade, as its' bristles are super long; so the plastic handle is further away and much safer. 2.) After wiping off dust, paper fibers, etc. ...now you are left with tiny microscopic CF fibers on your record. I guess this is a highly known and common problem with CF brushes. The Thunderon doesn't constantly shed its' bristles like the CF brushes. Even if the CF and Thunderon are similar in terms of static-reduction and/or inconsistent results, I think it'll still be worth it to buy for the aforesaid reasons. I also ordered a Plasma Electric Lighter, thanks to your videos! I'm excited to get it. After a lot of research, it's very similar to a Zerostat on the cheap! :) I have a feeling the Thunderon + Electric Lighter will be a killer combo for reducing static and dust removal.
@cuppadan2 жыл бұрын
Dude, you rock. The vinyl science guy!
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it.
@chrisharding62053 жыл бұрын
Another informative video thanks. Now I know my brush only gets rid of some dust and debris. Doesn't do anything for static. Which I kinda figured. I noticed my acrylic platter mat helps on the table for that as well as all my records go through my spin clean before going near my system. Thanks and can't wait till next week.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
That wet clean is probably doing the most work for you with static reduction. Good stuff.
@jikenj3 жыл бұрын
I can't say enough about the zero stat gun but also use a squeeze ball puffer to blow off the dust before I brush it with my gold type brush that you used.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I've always had good results with the Milty myself.
@willywonka30503 жыл бұрын
My (unscientific) process for cleaning and de-static: spin clean + microfiber/cotton combo dry, then air out for a while. Brush each side for 3-5 revs before playing with either an Ortofon (roll and lift, good for large debris) or Hudson HIfi Audioquest clone (roll and lift on first sweep, drag off horizontally to left edge thereafter). 2 rounds for recently cleaned/new records, 3-5 for uncleaned. Then, I manually spin the platter to inspect for dust before lifting the record off to check for static (which I remove with a plasma lighter while holding the record). After each LP I dip the stylus in cleaning gel. This works well enough for me, though I'm well aware there are better options. It's not that I like carbon fiber, I just hate Discwashers and velour pads in general. I can see how the Ortofon brush scratches records, but the Hudson Hifi brush is so soft that it's probably impossible to scratch a record unless large debris is snagged. As for the "antistatic"/non-static properties of carbon fiber, it's utter BS for people in dry-ish climates. These things build static like a Van de Graaff generator no matter which method or brush I use. Thus the only 3 temporary solutions to static are a plasma lighter/Zerostat, humidifying my room, and wet cleaning. Static is much more prevalent on certain records, generally on older thinner ones but I've had massive static on new 180-200g records too. I've never had issues with static discharge causing pops, instead the issue is just dust attraction and getting glued to the platter mat.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Environment is certainly key in the amount of static produced. I find that it's an uphill battle here when it's winter.
@robertbartolomie8573 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very informative! I appreciate it! Thank you!
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@rickmilam4132 жыл бұрын
I've been an Audioquest dealer for almost 30 years. I have to confess that I never even considered the possibility of them actually removing static. Their purpose, in my view, is to remove dust without creating static. I find they are at best, marginal in that regard, mainly redistributing it. New out of the box they seem to work reasonably well but not for long. However there is a slightly tacky sensation when they're brand new. Tacky is one of my strengths so I devised an idea which seems to work. I use the Destat for the static issue but keep one of those travel size lint rollers at hand. You know the ones with the sticky tape on them that you tear off when it ages. With a brand new sheet I roll in on a very clean countertop a bit to remove the most extreme adhesiveness. Then I take the carbon brush and very lightly "flick" the fibers against the sticky material. This removes almost all of the visible dust, even under my 4K scanner (I'm visually impaired but this is handy). On a high resolution system I've heard no negative (no pun intended) effects. It seems to both remove existing particles from the brush and actually pick up dust from the record without leaving a residue. My two cents worth. Change available...
@mycosys Жыл бұрын
FWIW the static isnt 'bleeding into' the turntable, its being attracted to the turntable side of the record by the grounded platter but it cant reach it. Thats why it comes right back.
@thevinylattack Жыл бұрын
It's going from the record to the turntable. I'd say that 'bleeding off' is an accurate phrase.
@puddle5ofmud599 Жыл бұрын
I love the T-Shirt absolutely wicked man!
@thevinylattack Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm partial to it as well.
@oxiixo67626 ай бұрын
I use an air ioniser genral household use ,however it keeps the air particulates in my studio on surfaces , dusting and stoor sooker removes dust , and keeps things semi dust free . To be honest i wash my vinyl as i use them and always use brush. Now this is controversial, i experimented with aluminum foil and a rubber sheet and it actually worked , heavy static with a brand new album (fat boy slim) purched for a friend who thoughtthe record was defective? . I heve no idea of the mechanics of aluminum sheets and a rubber sheet ( intuition) ,however it worked
@thevinylattack6 ай бұрын
I've been looking into air purifiers to reduce dust myself.
@leon90213 жыл бұрын
Another great piece to add to the collection of static treatment videos. This shows again quite clearly that the methods to go by are usually holding the record in hand while treating it. Great job!
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm pretty content with the results and methods myself.
@NotEnoughRecords3 жыл бұрын
I only recently picked up the Thunderon and have been using the silver brush for years. Not at all surprised that the silver brush doesn nothing while the record is on the turntable, but definitely surprised to see that the Thunderon's biggest advantage is that the instructions dictate cleaning 'in hand'. Anecdotally I've been impressed with the Thunderon's ability to neutralize static on records that are noticeably bad (clinging to the sleeve or turntable mat)
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
It did indeed reduce static, but it didn't work nearly as well as I'd hoped.
@davidroot2983 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris. Once again I really dig your content. I have a buddy that uses an ionized blow dryer with no heat. He said it was $20 and claims to get great results. Makes me wonder if it works like the destat at a much more friendly price. Would be cool to know. Keep it coming brother.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I've looked at them and I'm mulling it over. I'm trying to steer clear of items that need to be plugged in to work, but that may change.
@lobstame6 ай бұрын
I am new to the channel, I will subscribe. I like this methodology, it is telling with no bullshit.
@thevinylattack6 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@tdub773 жыл бұрын
Yup another great static video. After watching some of these I purchased the destat 3. Great product. Might be interesting to see how well the anti-static sleeves do to keep static down once destaticed?
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
The Destat is simply fantastic, if not a little pricey. Unfortunately, I don't know of a good way to test the static relation to an inner sleeve as time in storage, humidity, location and even album could all be varying factors. I appreciate the suggestion though.
@danender555510 ай бұрын
I always considered a record brush to be a tool that is useful in removing dust and mechanical dirt from the record surface and its grooves. In my experience, carbon fiber brush is unable to deal with a static charge on the record. Milty ZeroStat and air ionizer for static charge, because they were made for the purpose.
@thevinylattack10 ай бұрын
You're spot on.
@Theoobovril25 күн бұрын
I wonder if you would have got improved results, all round, had you used an anti-static wrist strap affixed to your wrist and earthed.
@stevenannett17392 жыл бұрын
Good to know , Thanks sir
@thisguy27553 жыл бұрын
The Tonar Dustaway brush (and there are many similarly shaped brushes) is my fav. It has no frills, works great and is quite cheap. Together with my Onzow Zerodust they are the only two gadgets I use when playing records... lovin' it ;-) Ps. great vids, keep em comin'!
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you found it useful.
@jeremyr7223 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I love my Zero Dust too. Just an excellent little product. The clever little magnifying lens cover is neat, tho I don’t much use it.
@stellarpod3 жыл бұрын
Some of the inconsistency in readings would cause me to be skeptical of the measuring device. Is it calibratable? If so, when was the last time it was calibrated? As always, thanks for sharing. Steve
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
The inconsistencies are so small that I can assure you the reader is accurate. These are millivots we're measuring with, and getting slight variances is completely normal.
@jamesphillips71003 жыл бұрын
I use carbon fibre arm brush that rotates with record and play with the lid down, I’ve tried so many different methods over the years, I only use my RCM on old or new records that have a ton of paper dust. For me this is the best solution.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
If it works for you, you're doing it right ;-)
@jamesphillips71003 жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack indeed, I found myself as I’m sure many other do being all consumed with static and cleaning I wasn’t doing what I was supposed to be doing and the was enjoying the music! 😂
@ChordataWax3 жыл бұрын
100% This is the type of person you want to buy a record from.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@tanyet3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the videos. Love this channel. On another note, I’m not aware of any brush that is fine enough to get inside record grooves. They all say this but it simply can’t be true.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen one either, but I'll still check the claim if I'm able.
@mostirreverent8 ай бұрын
If you touch the silver brush to the record spindle you can hear a slight zap of static
@thevinylattack7 ай бұрын
I haven't encountered that.
@hifitommy3 жыл бұрын
i never found the brushes to be effective on static. for dust removal, yes. i allow the disc to spin past the brush, held so that the bristles are certainly in contact with the grooves, for about 2-3 spins. then without varying the pressure, sweep of to the outside. static isn't a problem on the tt, but after the disc is removed, it is sometimes ALIVE with static. that's when i use the Zerostat just prior to placing the LP back in the jacket. that prevents the dust from being attracted into the grooves while being stored in the sleeve. when zerostat first came out, they recommended a sensitive magnetometer to measure the static. almost nobody bought them and i haven't seen them since. i still have my original Zstats, an original white and the later red.. i use them both to this day about 35 years later. the brush i am about to buy is the Ortofon carbon fiber that has a more ergonomic handle to hold while sweeping the record. they are about $35. your video is great for the beginner and the measurements you took and recorded all seem sound scientifically. it's too bad you didn't put links up for each of the products you used including your measuring tool. this kind of instruction wasn;t available when Zstat and the Decca brush (the original carbon fiber brush) came out so it is much appreciated. ...hifitommy
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I don't really think people have any trouble finding carbon fiber brushes for sale. The anti stat meter is pretty expensive and I found mine used, but in exceptional state. It's not something you'd really buy just to have laying around at their price point.
@hifitommy3 жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack ...the carbon fiber brushes aren't all created equal. i bought mine from radio shack back in the day because it had the finer more numerous bristles like the original Decca Brush unlike some of the others. i haven't actually compared the aq or the new aq to this but i love my RS brush. it will be interesting to see the ortofon brush, the handle is ever so much more ergonomic than the others. ...hifitommy
@johntrott95133 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. I didnt really pay much attention to the static claims of brushes. In my head I figured the friction was more likely to induce static. I was mostly looking for something to remove dust off the surface. I ordered a Zerostat shortly after buying our first turntable so never thought to try anything else. After seeing microscratches left behind by one of the brushes (forgot which) I never use them. Luckily the record was the blue Autobahn that was already a terrible press so didn't care too much about. I now use either the Mofi felt or Nagoaka roller, just depends on the situation. I do also wet clean using a label saver at the sink and store in Mofi sleeves. Hopefully that will change if the Humming Guru arrives and works well.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I'd say you've got a solid system going. I'm looking forward to checking out the humminguru, but unfortunately I just received word that they're not looking to ship the kickstarter backers until early September instead of June as they'd anticipated.
@johntrott95133 жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack yeah I checked some of their social media not too long ago and saw the September ETA. Delays of new products are nothing new, I guess the current climate can't be helping matters either.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
@@johntrott9513 That's my guess. I suppose I should be happy that the kickstarter people are still getting theirs before the rest.
@Channel33RPM3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, as always!
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Frank. Not a terribly exciting vid, but hopefully it cleared up some confusion for people.
@S.A.S.H. Жыл бұрын
Since labels, and even pressing plants use slightly different vinyl formuli, I question how "scientific" tests such as these can be. There are so many variations that have to be taken into account. But having said that. your approach is about as "scientificx" as possible without weeks of detailed lab testing. I appreciate your time and efflorts in all these static videos. Thanks for the work!
@thevinylattack Жыл бұрын
Considering how many records I tested from various eras, pressing plants, and genres, I don't worry about any of the results I posted.
@S.A.S.H. Жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack fair enough. When the point is reduction of static then the delta is more important anyway. Did you notice differences in older versus newer pressings? Or similarities in pretreatment static readings for pressings from the same label during the same time frames, or similar patterns?
@thevinylattack Жыл бұрын
@@S.A.S.H. None. For the purposes of static, it would seem that vinyl is vinyl. Unless you're talking about colors (blue, red, even clear) then they can necessitate a second treatment sometimes. Those seem to hold static more.
@S.A.S.H. Жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack very interesting. Good to know. Thanks for the clarification s and extra data.
@thevinylattack Жыл бұрын
@@S.A.S.H. No worries.
@shawnsummers2580 Жыл бұрын
Great background music sir ❤
@thevinylattack Жыл бұрын
I don't even remember what I chose, lol.
@richardanderson14842 жыл бұрын
As usual Chris your videos are very informative and I enjoy them very much. I just bought and received the gold brush as we call it and my concern is like in the video the silver brush the gold brush sounds rough on my record. I am lightly applying the brush not putting any pressure on it. Is there a break-in period on this brush? I look forward to every Sunday for a new video. May you and all your family have a merry Christmas and a happy New Year.
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
I have noticed that over time my gold handle brush has softened, but I can really say how long that took. It was always softer than the silver handle (which I don't use at all).
@Vince_Tasciotti3 жыл бұрын
Primarily, I use an anti-static brush to remove loose dust and debris from the LP. As a side thought, I wonder if using an ultaviolet sanitizer wand would reduce static.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it would have an effect, but I've been wrong before.
@dcrook2323232 жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack Sorry, I just suggested this (June '22) in comments before I saw this similar suggestion. Great minds....
@D3athW1ng3 ай бұрын
Wow math doesn't lie.
@jdrecords2 жыл бұрын
It looks to me it is just a brush and the static changes depending on what surface it is on.
@Kenroadrunner5 ай бұрын
I dumped carbon fibre brushes years ago. My experience was that they CAUSE MORE STATIC!!
@alanjbennett3733 Жыл бұрын
Never wet cleaned a record in my life always dry cleaned and had good results. So I'd never wet clean. So far. I use a soft velvet brush and good microfiber cloths. And a small stylus brush for extra cleansing
@thevinylattack Жыл бұрын
You should try a wet clean. You'll find the improvement well worth the effort.
@alanjbennett3733 Жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack thanks for the reply. I will try it one day. But I've not had to so far. Suppose it will come in handy when buying older used records. Thank you.
@Stormhawk777 Жыл бұрын
2:35 You've done it?? You've found where the Grunk resides??!
@Jako19872 жыл бұрын
So I have accidentally used these brushes right. No mistakes, just happy accidents. 22:37 You don't believe me but I wrote this comment before this part 🤣
@COLDMKULTRA2 жыл бұрын
Great review and analysis! ... BUT If you want to really clean your records without spending an insane amount of money on an ultrasonic (such as the very good De-gritter) Then ... invest in the "Pro-Ject VC-S2 Record Cleaning Machine LP Vinyl Cleaner VC-S Aluminium" It really does deep clean your records ... AND ... also VERY importantly ... totally removes static! (for many, many plays of the record)
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
I had one before I went to the Degritter. It worked quite well.
@danielcombs32075 ай бұрын
Nice work on this video. I just bought the gold brush . And I will use the method you suggested. Do you think wearing nitrile gloves would improve handling the record? I don’t know how nitrile material effects vinyl.
@thevinylattack5 ай бұрын
I'm sure the gloves would keep oils and dirt from your hands off the record, but I also don't think it's necessary in the least.
@blakemeding7917 Жыл бұрын
Try a grounded brush. I my experience if I don't touch a ground when using a brush it dose nothing. I know there are several types of grounded brushes on the market. (I've never tried them)
@thevinylattack Жыл бұрын
It's on my list to test.
@axelfeiss11303 жыл бұрын
Great test and very well structured. What tests may companies like Audioquest do prior to developing the catch phrases on the box? I also wonder whether the amount of static going into the turntable when putting the record on it depends on the design of the turntable and or is influenced by the type of platter mat you use? A light weight player based on foam material and ceramic platter vs mass player with a 12kg aluminium platter and heavy metal housing?
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine the type of turntable would indeed have an impact on how much static is bled off. This just helps to solidify that treating the record before play is the best idea. I may test how much bleed off on other tables as I have the opportunity.
@richardcline1337 Жыл бұрын
What this test did show me is that my Technics is probably a much better source of static elimination than any of the brushes being sold for that purpose. Have you heard of the one about using Downy or similar branded dryer sheets to wipe the records to remove static?
@thevinylattack Жыл бұрын
I've heard about it, I haven't gotten around to trying it yet. Soon I hope.
@MD-wk3gj2 жыл бұрын
It is said that the Buddha shared his insights to those with “little dust in their eyes”. I am now curious what brush or fancy gadget he used. Could it be bodhi leaves from the trees? 🤔 how to get bodhi leaves to Chris. Should we sit in lotus position with our legs crossed and chant over vinyl? Thanks for your continued dusting Chris. It’s entertaining and helpful.
@S.A.S.H. Жыл бұрын
How often was the third measurement while holding the disk, the highest? Measuring over the thumb contacting the other side of the record. Also sort by both record label, as well as pressing era might reveal patterns worth looking into.
@ryan.m.weisgerber2 жыл бұрын
This was really interesting, and I think your videos are great. I'm wondering how much the material of the platter factors into what you were seeing with the static electricity dissipating into the table when the record was put down. I have an acrylic platter, which definitely is an improvement over the metal platter I had before, but I'm curious how acrylic / metal compare to each other specifically. 🙂
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
Something I'll try to take a look at down the line. Thank you.
@dcrook2323232 жыл бұрын
To VISUALLY test dust / brush cleaning brush itself, try a black light bar. 👍
@bhtoque3 жыл бұрын
Not to add to your work load, but I'd be interested to see the difference in results for the wired brushes (Acoustech Big Record Brush and Mapleshade Static Draining Brush) They're about twice the price of the Thunderon brush, but have ground wire built in. In my experience using a zerostat for the static and a carbon brush to actually remove the now less clingy dust, gives solid results.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I may take a look at those in the future.
@Veganteamster3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to second this request. I use the Mapleshade on the vinyl and on my acrylic platter. Seems to make a big difference. Thanks for videos.
@majkon93 Жыл бұрын
Salesman in a local shop convinced me to buy a goat brush (Tonar woodgoat) because it should (allegedly) be better and more gentle than the carbon one even for dry cleaning as it less likely make scratches. Since I can’t find any mentions about it online (only that it's good for wet cleaning), I got bit nervous if it's really safe to use it dry. What do you think?
@thevinylattack Жыл бұрын
In my experience goat hair is indeed more gentle than carbon fiber. However, the length of the hair has much to do with it. A short bristled brush won't have much give. I haven't felt (or used) the particular brush to which you're referring though, so I'd say use your best judgment. Vinyl is tougher than people think most of the time and you're just looking to give it a light brushing for dust control.
@kennethjoyce14573 жыл бұрын
I bought the Sleeve City brush a year or two ago. I mainly use it for a quick clean before playing until this past December when I started purchasing audiophile vinyl. These "quiet" records always come loaded with static when I receive them in the mail and my brush has not impressed me very much getting rid of the obnoxious gremlin... until after watching your video. So I went back and tried the brush again for the purpose of ridding my music from this hideous entity. This morning before playing my One-Step Yes "Fragile" I got to wondering, if the album is all charged up, why are we just treating one side? So this time I brushed BOTH sides before I placed the record on the platter and (maybe it's all in my head or just our weather here today), but I believe it really helped...... today.... but who knows about tomorrow....
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear that worked out for you.
@infinityvideoprod2 ай бұрын
So my take-away from this experiment is, to reduce static, place the record on the turntable! 😂😂😂
@thevinylattack2 ай бұрын
If the static that bled off into the table didn't cause problems of its own, and then come right back into the record, yes.
@infinityvideoprod2 ай бұрын
@@thevinylattack if it comes back, place it on the turntable again! 🤣🤣🤣 Either way, really enjoyed the video, and all the others I have watched so far.
@ToolTalkCanada Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Have you seen the Mapleshade Static Draining Brush? Their sites says "our brush uses highly conductive bristles connected to a grounding wire that conducts static away from the brushed object right into a plug you connect to the ground of any three-prong AC wall outlet". Would this be effective? I think you said you were wearing a grounding strap on your ankle for your tests. Since no one does this when they're actually playing records, how much affect does this have on your test results?
@thevinylattack Жыл бұрын
It won't do any good if you use a brush like that on a record that's on the table. Records need to be treated in hand (or off the table) to properly eliminate static. Don't tell anyone (as the serious scientist types get angry) but in testing static both with and without a grounding strap, there really wasn't any discernable difference. I keep the strap on for consistency in testing. That's it. If you eliminate static from a record in hand and then play it, you're good to go.
@AnthonyCandaele Жыл бұрын
I have a Tonar nostatic brush but it leaves a lot of static after cleaning. So I ordered the Brush maple from Ursa Major. I heard good things about this brush.
@thevinylattack Жыл бұрын
I imagine it'll be good for wiping dust, but not so much for static. Let us know how it works for you.
@marcgoecke94012 жыл бұрын
Carbon fiber brushes remove dust, but they don't work well when it comes to remove static. All my records once get a wipe with a cleaning solution of mine that contains also one or two drops (on one liter) of Tetenal Mirasol 2000. That eliminates static forever. From then on the carbon fiber brush just removes regular dust that landed on the record because of gravity - not static.
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
I'll have to take a look at that solution and see what's there.
@marcgoecke94012 жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack Cool, I curious what your feedback will be. My cleaning solutions ist made of 90(+)% double destilled water, 10(-)% isopropanol +plus a few drops of the mentioned Mirasol2000. It breaks water tension and does a great job to make the records anitistatic. Mirasol 2000 is originally used in the chemical process of foto development.
@irashapiro91893 жыл бұрын
Great video, Chris. I've watched all of your static videos. Your static measurements of the record on the turntable are always consistently low. If you use a carbon fiber to remove the dust, ( I use the Audioquest Gold) is static electricity really an issue for playback?
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
It is, yes. Having the static bleed off into the table isn't good for electronics, especially when they're as sensitive in nature as something like a turntable cartridge. Treating your records before play is definitely a good idea.
@titanxsand21536 ай бұрын
Plasma Arc Lighter does the trick for me $10 much cheaper than the zerostat does the same thing.
@thevinylattack6 ай бұрын
While the lighter does a great job for such a low cost, it doesn't do the same amount of static reduction.
@taylorevans35932 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, great video again. Have you found carbon fibre brushes shed "hairs" on the record? With the one I no longer use (generic common brush found on Amazon), I noticed on a white record that hairs were lodged in the grooves. And then I looked closely at the brush as I flipped the cover back and forth to clean the brushes that it was shedding fibre hairs like crazy. Is this common to all carbon fibre brushes? I haven't used a carbon brush since finding the problem, and having to clean ALL my records afterwards. Have been considering trying the Audioquest but am hesitant due to the shedding of fibre hairs. Thanks!
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
I haven't had any shedding with the brush I use. I can't speak for the less expensive models they make.
@randyhollandsworth6263 жыл бұрын
Great video. Can you recommend a good Electrostatic Field Meter? I think you are using the FMX-003 however, I just want to be sure. Thanks for any help and keep up the great work! P.S. Thoughts on NEWTRY Handheld Digital Electrostatic Field Meter? They have them in stock on Amazon.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Newtry is just the seller, the product shown appears to be the Simco FMX 003. I have the 002 from Simco and it's been a workhorse.
@randyhollandsworth6263 жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack Thanks!
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
@@randyhollandsworth626 I hope it helped.
@JoeLaFon33 жыл бұрын
Yea I don't keep the bristles straight either I let them drag about. I have always been curious as to what kind of damage a carbon brush could do to the record If done incorrectly
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
With some serious force applied, more than I'd like to see I'd wager.
@flyingkillerrobots8773 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid ! I noticed that you're using paper sleeves consistently here (and they definitely leave debris on the record) and was wondering why and just how much anti-static sleeves actually help in reducing static buildup in the first place. I seem to have few issues with static build up once I do two wet cleans and then store in an anti-static sleeve - but then I'm not measuring the static with a device. Might make for an interesting video in the future?
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I keep those old second hand records in their paper sleeves because they keep the static up. I need it for testing. My personal records get a wet clean and a mofi or poly lined paper sleeve.
@flyingkillerrobots8773 жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack Thanks - right - of course that makes perfect sense. Have you tried the "Invest In Vinyl" brand MoFi clones? I was surprised to find I liked them better than the MoFI. (they offer a little more padding).
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
@@flyingkillerrobots877 I haven't but I may do that down the line.
@anthonyschumacher99252 жыл бұрын
Thorough.
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@mplsmark2222 жыл бұрын
I dabbled in photography. The cmos imager in the digital SLR camera can get dust specks from dust being introduced during lens changes. So, as a way to collect the dust down inside the camera I would use a wide artist’s brush with fine,soft bristles, but first I blasted the brush with canned air, or Co2. The idea being we charge the bristles so the dust bits will stick to them. I do this with my record carbon brush. It is much more effective at cleaning the hair and dust out of the brush. I don’t know if it makes the brush more or less effective at removing static, but I think it makes dust removal from the record more effective. I was hoping this test experiment would cover this approach. Any thoughts?
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
A very interesting idea. Could you send me an email so I can hear about the specifics? (No, this is not the spam bot).
@mplsmark2222 жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack Here a couple videos. About 5min. In kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mJNnlsyD3c6ao2w.html About 4.5 min. In kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p8h6lLVh3auViY0.html Mostly done to help remove dust, but I am curious if it effects static as well. The only thing I copy is blowing across the bristles. Thanks for your reply.
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
@@mplsmark222 Thanks for the reference videos. I'll check them out.
@audiorick8413 жыл бұрын
I would love to get your take on the anti-static properties of felt vs cork vs rubber vs acrylic platter mats.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
It's on my list for sure.
@DevonRegan3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking this same thing. The other thing I can't help but wonder is, does any of this matter? We've seen that the bulk of the static is transferred to the other side of the record. The question then is is the table absorbing it, or is it just on the reverse side of the record. If it's just on the reverse side and nothing is influencing the electronics then do any of these make a difference in audio quality?
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
@@DevonRegan If treated with something like a Milty or a Destat, the static isn't transferred it's dissipated from the album which is what you want. If there is static on a record and it's placed on a turntable, the static bleeds off into the machine which isn't a great idea with its sensitive electronics.
@DevonRegan3 жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack I'm curious how much that bleed actually impacts the electronics though. I just found you and love the content. I've been using the same "gold brush" as you. Have a VPI Cyclone I use to wet wash my records, store all of them in MoFi sleeves etc but also wonder when I'm chasing one step too far. The Destat based on your videos works, the question I wonder though, is does it improve the sound in a measurable way?
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
@@DevonRegan I can tell you with certainty that you hear a difference in records treated with a Destat. The amount of static reduction directly leads to less pops and clicks and less dust and dirt being attracted to your record. A Zerostat will have a similar impact and costs less.
@everettdawn78112 жыл бұрын
Seeing people on forums saying carbon fiber brushes can scratch vinyl. Is this true?
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. If you apply too much force, or the bristles are stiff enough.
@COLDMKULTRA2 жыл бұрын
Slightly damped (with distilled water spray) Goats hair brush wins for the price (still not cheap though) Much better than any carbon fibre brushes ... I have discovered this after many years of practical experience!
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
I've heard that works well.
@anthonyfrancis23743 жыл бұрын
Im not sure we have static in the UK like you do in the US, its a bit damp here. I have used a milty twin track brush with the red velveteen bottom for over 25 years if I need a clean with my Technics 1210's and just put the record on the deck and play at 45rpm and lower gently onto the record and get on with a variety of activities? I have never thought about static? I make my own record cleaner with around 80% DI water,19% Isopropanol and a droplet of washing up liquid as a wetting agent or If i can get hold of 35mm/120mm B&W Film rinsing agent if I need to clean. Just looked at my Milty and it looks threadbare and bit punky so will be replacing soon or will be keeping for those MC5 Stooges moments. Obviously you love cleaning maybe you'd like to chat about cleaning your cartridge.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
With the US being so much bigger than the UK, we have many more climates to consider and static is certainly prevalent especially in the arid parts. I'm glad someone doesn't have to deal with it, lol. I'm looking at a stylus cleaning video, but I need to pick up a good microscope first to show the details. Hopefully soon.
@anthonyfrancis23743 жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack Do you think that because the electricity in the U.K. runs at 240v and the decks are externally earthed this helps to eliminate static when the record is on the deck? Does that sound plausible? Or is purely atmospheric?
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyfrancis2374 I don't think voltage has anything to do with it.
@anthonyfrancis23743 жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack A portable ioniser might do the trick apparently. I grew up in Wales where it was so damp even the damp has its own damp. You might worry about negative ions we were worried about the rotting sleeves.
@delightfuldigs2 жыл бұрын
Hey found it 👍🏻
@TBNTX3 жыл бұрын
Chris, if I might ask, what is the device you are using to measure the static on the LP? I think that I'd like to get one like yours.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
It's a Simco static electricity meter. They're not cheap, but they work great.
@TBNTX3 жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack Thank you. That's what I wanted to know.