Placebos and Behaviour Change - Rory Sutherland

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Why should aspirin be expensive?
Why are branded analgesics more effective?
The psychologist Nicholas Humphrey argues that placebos work by prompting the body to invest more of its limited resources in recovery. He believes that human immune systems evolved for an environment much harsher than the one we are currently living in, so we have evolved capabilities to ‘trick’ our unconscious into believing the conditions for recovery are much more favourable for our immune system to work at full tilt.
The ministrations of doctors (witch or NHS), exotic potions (homeopathic or antibiotic), or the caring presence of relatives and friends can all create this benign illusion. Yet policymakers hate the idea of any solution which involves unconscious processes. If you suggested that the NHS invest more in elaborate drugs packaging, they’d have conniptions.
Too little is spent researching the placebo effect in proportion to its importance. Why is this?
In this talk, Ogilvy Vice Chairman Rory Sutherland will explore how we can hack the amazing power of placebos for changing behaviour; both on a personal, and societal level.
Rory is the Vice Chairman of Ogilvy in the UK, and the co-founder of a behavioral science practice within the agency. He works with a consulting practice of psychology graduates who look for ‘unseen opportunities’ in consumer behaviour - these are the very small contextual changes which can have enormous effects on the decisions people make - for instance tripling the sales rate of a call centre by adding just a few sentences to the script.
Before founding Ogilvy’s behavioral science practice, Rory was a copywriter and creative director at Ogilvy for over 20 years, having joined as a graduate trainee in 1988. He has variously been President of the IPA, Chair of the Judges for the Direct Jury at Cannes, and has spoken at TED Global. He writes regular columns for the Spectator, Market Leader and Impact, and also occasional pieces for Wired. He is the author of two books: The Wiki Man, available on Amazon at prices between £1.96 and £2,345.54, depending on whether the algorithm is having a bad day, and Alchemy, The surprising Power of Ideas which don’t make Sense, which was published in the UK and US in March 2019.
Rory is married to a vicar and has twin daughters of 17. He lives in the former home of Napoleon III - unfortunately in the attic. He is a trustee of the Benjamin Franklin House in London and of Rochester Cathedral.
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@jaredbrosn1780
@jaredbrosn1780 2 жыл бұрын
This dude is fascinating to listen to.
@MrSaemichlaus
@MrSaemichlaus 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a child, spaghetti with bolognese tomato sauce seemed to have a profound placebo effect on me in case of headaches and such. I really liked the meal, it made me feel better psychologically and, as it seems, medically.
@neuroblossom
@neuroblossom 2 жыл бұрын
love rory sutherland, what an absolute legend
@miloseveggies8064
@miloseveggies8064 9 ай бұрын
1:02:19 Really creepy that the dude's instinct was to pull out his phone. Didn't even take one second to smile and appreciate the moment.
@LearnThaiRapidMethod
@LearnThaiRapidMethod Ай бұрын
I came across a study in the placebo effect that showed that EVEN IF THE PATIENT IS AWARE of taking a placebo, it was still effective in a third of the patients! I apply this principle in my own life. I bought a really expensive crystal glass and it makes my tap water taste bloody marvellous! 😂 Another fascinating study, which doesn't seem to have taken hold globally is that hospitals designed more like a home than a technical lab, with pastel walls, curtains, indoor plants, sofas, and all the medical equipment hidden from view resulted in patients getting better much sooner (half the time or less) and only a small percentage of them relapsing and returning to hospital!
@namtran2235
@namtran2235 3 жыл бұрын
Great talk!
@acxezknightnite1377
@acxezknightnite1377 3 ай бұрын
Fascinating to hear these insights into our weird psyche.
@LearnThaiRapidMethod
@LearnThaiRapidMethod Ай бұрын
BTW, Rory is a genius. All his talks are very subtle rationalisations for Spending More Money On Advertising. It's a brilliant marketing endeavour for the ad industry as a whole, but for Ogilvy in particular. 😂
@ironheart191
@ironheart191 3 жыл бұрын
About Live Chat: It's not necessary that your Vodafone live chat support person is only talking to three Vodafone customers. The industry has changed over the years but it's likely that one chat support rep. has two Vodafone customers, two Uber Drivers, and one Western Union customer...
@DJSTOEK
@DJSTOEK Жыл бұрын
More please
@bossygames
@bossygames 2 жыл бұрын
I like Rory. My new nerd crush
@youarewhatyourelookingfor4496
@youarewhatyourelookingfor4496 2 жыл бұрын
Everything is created by the mind. Gold isn’t valuable unless we say it is. Diamonds are pretty, but without all the hype, they’re just pretty rocks. It’s all psychological agreement
@lizafield9002
@lizafield9002 Жыл бұрын
Totally! Thomas More illustrated your point in "Utopia." Gold was a cheap despised metal used for chamber pots. I always felt that stars, tree leaves & clouds were way prettier than gemstones, but it's hard to compete for them or own them, so these jewels go unvalued completely.
@User-wt9jk
@User-wt9jk 2 жыл бұрын
The story told from 7:50 onwards…how is that a typical Don Draper trick? Don’t recall him using such approach specifically
@DavidHoodEdinburgh
@DavidHoodEdinburgh 2 жыл бұрын
Compete with Coke? In Scotland Coke is #2 to Irn Bru - seemingly the only country where coke is knocked off its '#1 spot by another fizzy pop!
@david203
@david203 2 жыл бұрын
About magenta, the color: it is not an invented color. It actually exists as much as any other color in the spectrum of any black body radiation such as that of the Sun, and you can get it in substance form by combining red and blue (reflecting) pigments. The brain does have to create its perception artificially, though, that is correct, because of its limited receptor types. Brown, however, is an invented color.
@gayedavies2797
@gayedavies2797 2 жыл бұрын
I always say that to students….don’t plop all the colours together unless you want mushy brown …..mud
@lhoga785
@lhoga785 3 ай бұрын
House prices part was flawed - said the gaps get bigger but forgot to note, your house appreciates more too unless you’re a FTB.
@Kobe29261
@Kobe29261 2 жыл бұрын
Rory should be the poster-boy for altered perception - just noticed listening to him that advertisement works via negativa. If your product sucks, you should do everything to keep it out of the public eye because people will find out from adoption that you suck - the paradox is the opposite is false if your product is top-notch, failure to signal its quality through expensive advertisement can doom it to neglect
@gayedavies2797
@gayedavies2797 2 жыл бұрын
Rory got 2:2 at Cambridge ….Boris is similar maybe as he was a journalist …in that they can waffle or wangle their out of a crisis ….and get people to buy stuff that they have no idea what they are buying but it says I am rich and can choose to do this……capitalism in cities ….probably millennials onwards are very different as they choose each other’s feelings, belonging to a cool social media group and caring for the planet…..
@tufsknmedia
@tufsknmedia 4 ай бұрын
I'm cracking up...If anyone saw the movie Catch Me If You Can (which was based on a true story) would know that he's spot on 😂😂😂
@kennethfoster3913
@kennethfoster3913 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder how this guy feels about video conferencing now that it's all we're allowed to do
@papergaery5257
@papergaery5257 3 жыл бұрын
He actually loves it and is a big advocate for it ... :) clearly emphasizing on the time and cost saved... he also thinks once we get out of the pandemic, a lot of companies would opt to keep a certain percentage of their staff just working from home, through VOIP, and just call in for important stuff..
@Mrkevi123
@Mrkevi123 3 жыл бұрын
Working from home saves company from providing you retail space to work from.
@GnomeGninja
@GnomeGninja 2 жыл бұрын
Remote working has virtually zero down sides for most people and businesses.
@TopSpinWilly
@TopSpinWilly 3 жыл бұрын
Rory did you ever think that placebo might just be in the head and not really solve physical problems of course if the problem is just mental then it's perfect. I saw a study where asthmatics were giving placebo and it appeared they did great they said they were breathing better they look like they felt better but when they're put on a machine they wer'nt getting any more air.
@lediableblanc9399
@lediableblanc9399 3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever think that physical problems are all in the head, or are you one of those that believe conscious is not a product of the brain?
@lediableblanc9399
@lediableblanc9399 3 жыл бұрын
I guess my point is, so? It seems like that is irrelevant. Or,, what do you mean by physical problems? It seems like you are just creating a context that serves to discredit the findings/idea but with out actually providing any good reason other than creating a context that seems like it should make sense. Have you ever thought that your happiness is all in your head instead of you actually being physically happy? Yeah, you should stop doing the things that are making your life *seem happy and going through the arduous task of making yourself actually physically happy; even if it ruins your life. Get to work
@david203
@david203 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is an extremely important point. Most of the time, the placebo effect is accepted according to reported effects, which is not scientific as compared with measured "real" effects. In these questions, "placebos" means oral pills that contain effectless substances such as starch: Can placebos delay death in late-stage cancer? Can placebos improve pain in the small number of situations where pain can be measured electrically in the nerves? Can placebos improve student test scores consistently and over time? Can placebos have ANY effects on problems that have no significant psychological component, if there are any such?
@GnomeGninja
@GnomeGninja 2 жыл бұрын
@@lediableblanc9399 if it works (and the placebo effect is real its been proven many times with the scientific method) why would you say "So What?" IT WORKS! Thats what... That should be the point here. What was your again?
@GnomeGninja
@GnomeGninja 2 жыл бұрын
@@david203 yes its been proven Do 5 min of "research" and you will find the only reason we don't use placebos is they can't make as much money selling starch pills then they can selling opioids....
@maxkarpushko6837
@maxkarpushko6837 7 ай бұрын
I heard about a magician (I think could be misremembering the profession) who trained himself to dilate his pupils by thinking about things trigger strong emotions.
@bobadams7654
@bobadams7654 3 жыл бұрын
Rory on form as usual NB pupils dilate if we look at something we desire/love Might be a person or an I-phone etc.
@sleepsmartsmashstress8705
@sleepsmartsmashstress8705 2 жыл бұрын
A nocebo is NEVER a placebo
@thisisbemabu
@thisisbemabu 3 жыл бұрын
Rory's always thinks he'smobile phone is switched off when it rings.
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