Trade Silver: Its Significance in European-Indigenous Alliances | Historical Artifacts | Frontier

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The Woodland Escape

The Woodland Escape

28 күн бұрын

Join Peter and his guest Gerry Neilands, long time friend and reenactor, as they delve into the pivotal role of trade silver in forming alliances between Europeans and Indigenous peoples. This week on the Woodland Escape, Gerry, a knowledgeable historian on 17th and 18th-century artifacts, unravels the historical significance and cultural impact of trade silver. Discover the intricate details of Jesuit rings, armbands, and more as we explore how these items were used as tools of diplomacy and symbols of status among Native tribes.
Witness an extensive display of trade silver and learn about the craftsmanship and strategic use of these precious items in trade and negotiations. From the early Jesuit influences to the competitive fur trade era, this episode enlightens viewers on how material culture shaped interactions on the North American frontier. Don't miss out on the rich discussions and expert insights that bring the vibrant history of trade silver to life.
Whether you're a history enthusiast, a craftsmanship admirer, or curious about historical reenactments, this video is a must-watch!
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@ragnar8390
@ragnar8390 10 күн бұрын
When you can put yourself back in history, you learn about the world today.
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 9 күн бұрын
That’s profound!
@jeffersonspace
@jeffersonspace 26 күн бұрын
Thank you Woodland Escape, and Gerry.
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
Thank you too for your interest.
@thatsthewayitgoes9
@thatsthewayitgoes9 26 күн бұрын
Another good one. It’s the history and the stories and the historical significance of items , that is most enjoyable to me as I join you & your journeymen.
@robdixon7732
@robdixon7732 26 күн бұрын
You have some amazing friends, sir. Again, it was so nice chatting with you and Cathy the other day.
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
Thanks Rob. It was nice to finally meet.
@ryanmay1298
@ryanmay1298 25 күн бұрын
Jerry's knowledge on trade silver is incredible, especially enjoyed his words about smudging and the spiritual significance of silver to Natives. Thanks for the Video Peter!
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 25 күн бұрын
I too love the indigenous ceremonies and traditions.
@milliebanks7209
@milliebanks7209 26 күн бұрын
What a magnificent sky! Have never seen such beauty?
@mikesherman4565
@mikesherman4565 26 күн бұрын
Good afternoon Peter please bring him back so much history
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
That’s the plan.
@heru-deshet359
@heru-deshet359 12 күн бұрын
Another trip in the way back machine. Great episode!
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 11 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@jackcook8613
@jackcook8613 26 күн бұрын
Excellent video, Peter. They just keep getting better. Thanks again
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
Many thanks
@sheilam4964
@sheilam4964 26 күн бұрын
Wow. I'm ready for the next vid with Gerry. Thx guys for doing this, filming it and sharing it with us.
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
More to come!
@sheilam4964
@sheilam4964 24 күн бұрын
@@TheWoodlandEscape - yay
@michaeldouglas1243
@michaeldouglas1243 25 күн бұрын
Learned a ton of this and the last foraging video. Top notch content Peter and the guests. Thanks
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 25 күн бұрын
Glad it as helpful.
@ashleyanderson2859
@ashleyanderson2859 26 күн бұрын
Appreciate your efforts and dedication. Your guest have always been a wealth of knowledge and inspiration. The quality of the interviews never disappoints. Thanks again and keep your powder dry!
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
Much appreciated! Watch yer top knot.
@eugenejung4808
@eugenejung4808 25 күн бұрын
Extremely interesting my friend!!! Jerry is a wealth of knowledge! Keep the wonderful content coming and hope we see each other again soon!
@user-by4xk5kp1z
@user-by4xk5kp1z 26 күн бұрын
Hi Peter , ist so amasing to see your Videos wich so much Content of the past , i cant wait for the Text one , very nice 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
Happy to hear that!
@smoothvern165
@smoothvern165 22 күн бұрын
So much interesting information! I always learn something new! I learned many new things in this video, including the explanation of “pieces of eight”. Another great video!!
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 22 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@beverlymichael5830
@beverlymichael5830 26 күн бұрын
Fantastic video. The silver history so interesting. Did not learn this in school. Great selection of trade items there. I have two Hudson Bay blankets and love them. Had them for many years. Nothing like them. I learned where “two bits” came from. Your videos are always educational.
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it and also for your continued support.
@8626John
@8626John 23 күн бұрын
Very interesting discussion. Thanks for sharing. I'm also glad you put to rest the old rumor that a trade gun cost a pile of beaver skins as tall as the gun. I believe the natives were very well aware of what their pelts were worth. Unless alcohol was involved before trading began, then all bets were off.
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 23 күн бұрын
And sadly it often was.
@tracyking6657
@tracyking6657 24 күн бұрын
Once again, another educational video with excellent content. I have learned a great deal from all of your videos over the last several years. I believe I have seen them all. Please stay true to your passion, and continue to educate.
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
Great to hear and thanks for your continued interest.
@lae52
@lae52 26 күн бұрын
Great video. I could listen to you two all day and never get tired of learning. The Croix de Lorraine is named for a particular region in NE France. Historically it was a dukedom that was quasi independent from France. Much later in time it was the symbol of the Free French in WW2.
@guyinacoffeeshop2239
@guyinacoffeeshop2239 25 күн бұрын
Yes sir thank you Lorraine has much importance in the invasion of Normandy
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
I’d no idea, thanks for sharing that.
@rocklickranch2804
@rocklickranch2804 26 күн бұрын
Simply awesome video! Thank you Peter.
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@aggieduke1
@aggieduke1 26 күн бұрын
Great content Peter. That fellow is a wealth of knowledge.
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
He is indeed.
@melissam9064
@melissam9064 26 күн бұрын
I'm only halfway through and already fascinated with the information Jerry shares, your videos never disappoint! This information needs to be passed on and never forgotten. High school NEVER explained anything in detail, (1984 graduate!) So thank you for the care and interest you and your Mrs take! God Bless!
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
Wow, thanks! Glad you enjoy them.
@BearCreekWoodworking
@BearCreekWoodworking 25 күн бұрын
Fascinating! I learned so much from this video! 😃👏
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 25 күн бұрын
I'm so glad!
@skepsaul1089
@skepsaul1089 25 күн бұрын
Enjoyed the video thank you Peter and Jerry.
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 25 күн бұрын
Our pleasure!
@rogerclyde2720
@rogerclyde2720 24 күн бұрын
Excellent Episode, Jerry is very informative and has obviously spent a lot of time perfecting his knowledge of the Era. Excellent Guest.
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
He’s a very avid historical researcher.
@dhession64
@dhession64 26 күн бұрын
Fantastic interview! You mentioned continental dollars in this video, and it brought to mind a gent of that era who had the foresight to buy up those dollars when no one else wanted them, usually paying next to nothing for 'em. He made out when the gov't bought them back. Anyway, I had heard the term "trade silver" in the past, but was unaware of how it was used in the ways described here. I thought it was currency only. The tribes had a genuine appreciation for adornment.
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
Indeed, to the point that over hundreds of years of trade it was often considered spiritual.
@rustedwrenchrestorationwor9779
@rustedwrenchrestorationwor9779 26 күн бұрын
Another wonderful video. I watched as much as I could on my lunch hour, and can't wait to finish it when I get home. These videos help keep me going while I wait for the first Camp this spring. Thanks for doing these wonderful interviews with some of the experts and craftsmen that are bringing history to life. Doo Dah!
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 26 күн бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@kellydietz6720
@kellydietz6720 24 күн бұрын
Fantastic ❤❤❤
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 23 күн бұрын
Thanks 🤗, Kelly.
@jeremiahmccutcheon3234
@jeremiahmccutcheon3234 26 күн бұрын
Awesome. I’ve been wanting some trade silver
@jeffgrier8488
@jeffgrier8488 24 күн бұрын
That was a wonderful video, i learned alot that i didn't know. Thanks as always!
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ThePalmerFamilyBackyardGarden
@ThePalmerFamilyBackyardGarden 26 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing this video!
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
Our pleasure!
@ianandresen2326
@ianandresen2326 26 күн бұрын
That bottle didn't look like the apple whiskey we got! Again amazing stories! Cheers
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
That we be the good stuff, lol.
@daveyjoweaver6282
@daveyjoweaver6282 25 күн бұрын
An Amazing look into a once thriving relationship between Indigenous and the New Visitors! Excellent! What beautiful trade goods! When we compare this system to our modern system of money (that is no more than paper and cheap metal today) one can see the great value these items had and were held precious. I remember when they phased out silver coins the last in 1964, to the modern sandwich valueless coins of today. Hey, let’s go back to blankets and good knives! It was President James Buchanan 15th President who outlawed the Spanish reale. People were hard pressed to place any value on the new copper and away from silver. If they only knew what’s used today? Oweeee! I often think of the Indian Nations, the honor and respect for Earth Mother and the balance in which they lived. We clearly see today how living opposite thus is when the balance no longer exists. It is all the more reason to keep history near and the great value of the Indigenous Peoples who lived here many thousands of years. A land the Europeans found to be a natural paradise. Aho! Kind Thanks and Many Blessings! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
@guyinacoffeeshop2239
@guyinacoffeeshop2239 25 күн бұрын
Thank you Davie well said - Nathan from the four rivers area of western kentucky. "Where the Ohio meets the Tennessee"
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 25 күн бұрын
Some very wise and profound thoughts, Davey. Thanks for sharing.
@guyinacoffeeshop2239
@guyinacoffeeshop2239 25 күн бұрын
Hello friend, long time since I've visited your channel. I enjoy your history sharing. I also enjoy viewing your videos in the morning with my coffee. Your kentucky friend, nathan
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 25 күн бұрын
Glad you made a visit, Nathan and pleased that you enjoyed.
@lancehenderson7249
@lancehenderson7249 25 күн бұрын
Great video. You weren't kidding when you said he was a walking encyclopedia about this. Thanks for the video, Peter and Kathy, as well as Jerry. Keep your powder dry
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 25 күн бұрын
And a really good friend to boot. Watch yer top knot.
@isabelledelon3810
@isabelledelon3810 25 күн бұрын
A dive into history
@Bayan1905
@Bayan1905 25 күн бұрын
I've always been fascinated with trade silver and last Christmas my wife got me a jeweler's saw and files and I've started making some trade silver items as well as copper. As someone with Mohawk heritage I've been studying what they would have worn as well as what other Natives of the time period wore. It's amazing how big and how important the trade was in that time between Europeans and Native Americans and Indigenous people.
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 25 күн бұрын
That is awesome, love to see your work someday.
@the18thcenturygardener57
@the18thcenturygardener57 25 күн бұрын
Outstanding as always.
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 25 күн бұрын
Thanks Donald for your continued interest.
@randolphchappel6098
@randolphchappel6098 26 күн бұрын
Here in Western Canada, most historic sites don’t even mention Trade Silver. It wasn’t until I was at Ft. William at a “Summer Gathering” that I saw and learned about Trade Silver. Lots of reenactors were wearing it too! From what your guest said; it was a significant part of the fur trade. I enjoyed this video very much! Thank you!
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
The use of trade silver was all but gone by the time of the mountain man era.
@randolphchappel6098
@randolphchappel6098 24 күн бұрын
@@TheWoodlandEscape No “mountain men” up here! The rivalry between the Hudson Bay Company and the Northwest Company was epic! There was even a few trading posts by the XY Company from what is now the USA. With the Hudson Bay Company supposed charter from the King of England about all the land with rivers that flowed into the Hudson Bay didn’t stop the Northwest Company. They ran trading posts all across central and western Canada right up into the Arctic and into what’s now British Columbia. Sometimes both trading companies even shared a common wall between trading posts. In some of the fur trade journals (eg. David Thompson) mention that the NWCo. had lot nicer “stuff” to trade or even better eating wares such as porcelain plates, silverware and wine glasses! Peter Pond had a full fledged library up on Lake Athabasca. No “mountain men” up here!
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 23 күн бұрын
@@randolphchappel6098 David Thomson, probably the best map maker/explorer ever!
@earlshaner4441
@earlshaner4441 26 күн бұрын
Good afternoon from Syracuse NY USA brother and everyone else thank you for sharing your live history videos
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 26 күн бұрын
Our pleasure!
@earlshaner4441
@earlshaner4441 26 күн бұрын
I have been enjoying your live videos and I feel that my friends will also enjoy your videos ( which they do).
@anthonyfrey2697
@anthonyfrey2697 26 күн бұрын
I enjoy the historial aspects of your videos, You do great presentations.
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 26 күн бұрын
Thank you very much!
@robertwiggins4921
@robertwiggins4921 26 күн бұрын
Peter, an awesome episode. Over 40 minutes and still so much more to cover. As previously said, "bring him back"!! I also noticed Gerry's well tailored capote in what, if I am not mistaken, is of the French style. I am working on doing the same. Do you know if it was self made? Best Regards to you and Cathy!
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! The capote is most definitely French influenced. Hand made, but I believe Gerry said by someone else.
@user-nf3jj3ie3v
@user-nf3jj3ie3v 25 күн бұрын
Wow Peter ,another great video. It gave me some ideas for my own teaching presentations
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 25 күн бұрын
That's great! I look forward to doing an episode on Native culture when you guys come up.
@channelbill2933
@channelbill2933 24 күн бұрын
Great content. Several alt news sites discuss the end of the USD and a return to currencies backed by precious metals, so they are advising to buy silver for the period of transition. This content is an excellent starting point to study the real use of precious metals as the trading medium to buy essential items and operate a business. You may not be too enthused by the alt media, but more content on how trading was set up using silver may prove interesting to those who are trying to work our how to use silver for more than decoration and collecting unique coins. For example, how did thay cut a Spanish Dollar into pieces of 8 that are suitable for trading?
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
Interesting take on our future monetary system. Just a guess, but I assume they simply used a cold chisel to dissect them.
@troylyninger2741
@troylyninger2741 26 күн бұрын
You touched on the blankets of Robert Stone, I think you said his name was. I would love to have a link to such fine work! I believe in that time the blankets were probably 3 times as thick, or puffy like a sheep. When you read a book like Nicholas Crestwell, with one blanket, or the frontiers men only having one blanket in the dead of winter, you’d say to yourself I’d freeze to death! But, it is important to remember the blankets of the time were twice as heavy compared to ours today. Our products then and now are definitely different
@guyinacoffeeshop2239
@guyinacoffeeshop2239 25 күн бұрын
Yes sir so true. Back then the Europeans hand made high quality trade value items for survival. Nowadays its been watered down to barely meet the needs and auto crafted for Mass production
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
Totally agree. You can find him on Facebook, but you’d better hurry, rumor has it he is retiring from blanket making next year.
@jamesomalley4556
@jamesomalley4556 25 күн бұрын
I Wish kids learned things like this in school.
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 25 күн бұрын
Heck, I wish I had, lol. We need to rethink how we present history.
@robertcurns3845
@robertcurns3845 26 күн бұрын
the native NEEDING what the fort had for the gun, lead ,powder, etc,,_ KEEP THE CUSTOMER COMING BACK. Sound familar ? our autos, appliances, etc. , the more things change, the more they stay the same, Another great vid !! Thanks Peter.
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 26 күн бұрын
Indeed they do!
@57WillysCJ
@57WillysCJ 26 күн бұрын
Great display. The English did not allow silver outside of England if they could help it. I believe it was against the law in the colonies. If you see some history of silver smiths they could only do business with used goods. So a wealthy person would bring in a piece of table silver so it could be melted down to make the new. To my understanding that is why the Spanish dollar was used and why in the US the dollar was used. The Spanish would allow silver to go out because they had it coming in in large amounts. If I remember correctly Elizabeth I started the idea of money coming in to the country but not going out. I believe she encouraged people to produce the most imported items posiible so that merchants didn't spend money in other countries. This can be seen in the Opium Wars as the East India Company did not want to use silver for tea, silk and porcelain. Silver is still prized by natives especially in Navajo country. They sell more to tourist than each other.
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
We could take a lesson from the old Queen and rethink free trade, lol. I’m afraid that genie is out of the bottle.
@richardbonner2354
@richardbonner2354 25 күн бұрын
My Father told me of some other, mos' marvelous metal work that the Europeans possessed, and that the Native Peoples valued highly...; hardened an' tempered files that could shape other metals -- even a good steel tommyhawk -- and, the fine steel needles that permitted the most intricate sewing and embroidery stitches. 🙂 Rick Bonner Pennsyltucky
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
There is no doubt that European wares made their lives easier.
@brandonfigueroa7399
@brandonfigueroa7399 26 күн бұрын
Great episode. Gotta do something about that mic, cover it with trade silver maybe...
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for the feedback … a constant problem if we want good sound.
@scottmcfarland2149
@scottmcfarland2149 26 күн бұрын
Excellent!!👌🏻👍🏻. 🐾🙏🏻✌🏻
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 26 күн бұрын
Many thanks!
@scottmcfarland2149
@scottmcfarland2149 26 күн бұрын
@@TheWoodlandEscape thank you all for the information.
@jamesellsworth9673
@jamesellsworth9673 26 күн бұрын
I LIKE the hatband!
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 26 күн бұрын
It’s a dandy.
@dragoua5544
@dragoua5544 25 күн бұрын
Thank you for all this delicious information. I have no idea about indigenous people washing clothes routine, but as far as i know, european settlers used to soak shirts and bedlinen in water with leach and other stuff and then smash and strike linens by the stones or boards. So, did they have to take off all that shiny trade goods from shirts while washing?
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 25 күн бұрын
I believe the normal method for natives was to simply hang up garments and let the rain and sun freshen them up.
@calebchristian404
@calebchristian404 26 күн бұрын
The Plains Indians out west used dragon fly symbols a lot because they are always flying around and don’t sit still for very long. They would be very hard to hit with a gun or arrow. Thats how a warrior wanted to be. A butterfly symbol could be used also.
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 24 күн бұрын
Interesting!
@lusolad
@lusolad 23 күн бұрын
Do you have documentation for long hunters wearing trade silver?
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 23 күн бұрын
From the Canadian side of the border yes, as to the middle ground Longhunter no.
@lusolad
@lusolad 23 күн бұрын
@TheWoodlandEscape sorry I thought your friend said longhunters wore trade silver.
@kellydiver
@kellydiver 26 күн бұрын
Ah, so my Scottish grandmother wasn’t saying “luck-in-boots,” she was saying Lockenbooth. 👍🏼
@eddybear771
@eddybear771 25 күн бұрын
I believe Dad used to have several pieces of 8 from the time when it was still used.
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 25 күн бұрын
So cool!
@paulfrizzell31
@paulfrizzell31 26 күн бұрын
👍
@allcapitols1554
@allcapitols1554 26 күн бұрын
Al Gonquin won't even talk to you, if you are aren't ready to trade in silver.
@TheWoodlandEscape
@TheWoodlandEscape 26 күн бұрын
Pretty much!
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