NEGATIVE NANCY MOMENT OUTRAGE OUTRAGE OUTRAGE in all seriousness tho everybody will probably still run rage and achilles strike lol still, no nerfs sadge
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@KuthGoblin6 ай бұрын
"This isn't balance patch, wait until next week my king" - they said when I questioned about barbarian nerf
@beh2566 ай бұрын
OH GOD i just learned if 2 barbs pop savage roar you be doing 1 damdge or 2 LMAO
@claywimer20846 ай бұрын
We won’t even talk about trying to be a wizard main right now….
@GoobieFloobert6 ай бұрын
devs are speedrunning killing their game
@UhOHNotAgain.6 ай бұрын
Or youre just bad?
@UhOHNotAgain.6 ай бұрын
Cope harder smaller brother.
@UhOHNotAgain.6 ай бұрын
5'3" opinion
@hagamori26036 ай бұрын
Liked your own comment so opinion invalid@@UhOHNotAgain.
@RuckFussia6 ай бұрын
Devs are clueless, with no idea what direction they want to go.
@SookieSpy6 ай бұрын
Ironmace were not happy, some people were still not playing Barb. I saw a clip of a rogue rapier hitting a barb for 2% of his max health 😆
@IndicatedGoodLife6 ай бұрын
Im just sad they can't run Longsword now that the Zwei is nerfed 😂
@beh2566 ай бұрын
@@IndicatedGoodLifethat zwine nerf is absolutely nothing they will still 2 shot every single other class
@Seeyeay6 ай бұрын
yea i really wanna try the other changes but im not going back until they nerf barb, sick of playign against speedy tanks that two shot you. super fun gameplay
@beh2566 ай бұрын
Wdum thier not tanky at all? It's not like they can face tank 30 arrows from a survivor bow used by bard
@Seeyeay6 ай бұрын
@@beh256 learn grammar, they start with a base 150 hp. They are literally the most tanky class in the game. Claiming to be killed by a bard is a huge skill diff
@Murasame136 ай бұрын
@@Seeyeay He says that as if barb can't just win the ranged fight with throwing axes anyways 😂
@t0xicrunner6 ай бұрын
Gonna repaste this everywhere so people know; The way the skill works is just subtracting 25% from whatever damage stat you have, which is the WHOLE stat, not just the bonus. So 110% would go down to 85% before and will now be down to 60%. Some people are saying it would reduce 110% to 105% but that is NOT the way the skill works.
@krelekari6 ай бұрын
-5 weapon damage nerfs hit different between a zwihander vs a dagger
@-Medley-6 ай бұрын
and then they proceed to nerf rogue on ruins the only map where rogue can do stuff
@egirlpunisher6666 ай бұрын
True. They might as well remove double jump at this point, perk is gutted and useless now
@CodyJohnson-ip1oe6 ай бұрын
There was too many in each ruins match
@emprerking16846 ай бұрын
I can hear the tilt and i Love IT 😂
@firesupotree6 ай бұрын
what, the tankiest classes in the game having the highest melee damage AND fastest overall move speed in the game is bad? If only several thousands of people had talked about this for over a year now, in all public avenues for discussing the game!
@egirlpunisher6666 ай бұрын
Fighter too
@beh2566 ай бұрын
@@egirlpunisher666fighter is strong but not that op because he still needs to build up a kit and wizard do more damdge against pdr and such but barb? Barb all he has to do is buy a zwine and 4 agi pants and he's ready
@firesupotree6 ай бұрын
@@egirlpunisher666 Oh for sure, fighter is arguably worse because Barb WILL get nerfed eventually, but fighter will be right back on top and people will be in full denial about it.
@egirlpunisher6666 ай бұрын
@@firesupotree exactly, we need more ppl like this who can see. fighter can already counter shit barbs with longsword.
@Murasame136 ай бұрын
@@beh256 Cloth fighter is an issue. 158 hp, 100% ms (350 ms with sprint) and doing 80 damage per hit with an arming sword lmao
@beh2566 ай бұрын
The fact they didnt even nerf blood exchange is insane that skill is literally a free win you hit someone with akils and pop blood exchange now they cant kill you nor run away perfectly balanced that 5 zwine nerf will 100 fix the game
@patrickking71156 ай бұрын
Blood exchange is a low tier ability In everything but solos. Game is balanced around trios. But god dang they shouldn’t have buffed anything on barb.
@notaname1236 ай бұрын
HOLY SHIT this is crazy, you know that barb that killed you in ruins, with barb and barber at the top, I sold that guy my kit(one of my buddies) and I remember having shits and giggles at you doing backflips away from as I saw it on the sharescreen(this was all pre barb buff btw) his name is Thekidneypounder real chill guy tbh
@Skadidd6 ай бұрын
dont worry tho guy clubs arent even that good its just like a falchion for a barb oh wait
@ardyh87896 ай бұрын
Barb nerf missed the problem, and at least the buffs will mean barbs wont run achilles anymore, maybe. Barbs are too fast, do too much damage, and are too tanky. I think they should have adjusted agi and vigor scaling and nerfed achilles strike by either reducing the move speed penalty, removing damage per step, giving achilles a time limit (like BoC), or by making the hit that applies achilles always deal limb damage (the description says it strikes the heels of the target)
@Murasame136 ай бұрын
It's the holy trinity of balance. Mobility, Damage, Durability. If you give all 3 to any class, it will overperform. Period. Rogues have mobility and damage but are very squishy. Wizards sacrifice some mobility for even more damage. Barbarian starts with high durability AND damage, so the only stat they need is mobility. Agility primarily and some dexterity and they broke the rule of trinity balance. Cloth fighter is also a big problem. I got two tapped by a slayer fighter with an arming sword and 158 hp. He presses sprint and hits 350 MS while having barbarian hp and rogue damage. These tanky classes should NOT be out-performing, or at least equally performing, to the dps classes in the game. Period.
@nugget11916 ай бұрын
Challenge, try not to get one tapped by a barb, difficulty: whatever tf is harder than impossible cuz DEAR GOD
@Murasame136 ай бұрын
I'm a wizard main. These past few patches have quite literally made the game miserable. It's so unplayable. I have to play at the top 1% of the playerbase, while using the best gear in the game, and I can't make a single little mistake or I just instantly die.
@ikitclaw77796 ай бұрын
No savage roar is actually that they now ignore 50% of the person's pdr not that they get 50% pdr lol.
@Murasame136 ай бұрын
Factually wrong. You can quite literally open the game up yourself to check. Savage roar: "Frightens all enemies within a 7.5m radius for 8 seconds, reducing their physical damage bonus by 50%."
@ikitclaw77796 ай бұрын
@@Murasame13 Yeah I know I read it wrong before I watched the video I realised it after like a day but didn't find the video so I left the comment
@ReavenM1911A16 ай бұрын
NO change to achilles is sus, why doesn't that buff run out they can just hold it and win the m1 trades if that class wasn't brain dead enough
@beh2566 ай бұрын
On wipe day I would main bard for the first 2 months I could almost hit pathfinder I switched to barb I w key everyone hit explar in 4 days
@Murasame136 ай бұрын
Honestly should be like blow of corruption. I don't really get why some abilities have a timer and some don't. Rogue is fine, but rupture, cutthroat, etc, not having a timer is weird when BoC does. Achilles should have a timer.
@gerardogirizarry21756 ай бұрын
Barb and Barber experience
@TheArcticBearboss6 ай бұрын
The rage Nerf was solid, and the other changes only really affect Him in trios. Rage probably should have been nerfed a little bit more though, and achilles should have caught a nerf too. Calling it an overall buff is a bit dishonest, since it's a solos nerf, and a trios buff. Hopefully next patch he'll catch more nerfs for solos, and maybe a few buffs for trios. I think he should definitely get a base agility nerf. 13 agility is too high IMO. He should have to fully spec move speed and have to play like more of a glass canon, if he wants to achieve the speed that he is currently hitting so easily.
@beh2566 ай бұрын
Oh sorry are you from wrong timeline? Because in ours they only nerfed rage by 10 hp how is it your timeline?
@TheArcticBearboss6 ай бұрын
@@butter1x704 He's not broken in trios lol
@beh2566 ай бұрын
@@butter1x704 he's just way to strong in solos in trios he's actually alright
@garbage6906 ай бұрын
they nerfed him for solos and buffed for trios which is what they need to be doing not a horrible change they needed to nerf movespeed from rage instead of health though
@beh2566 ай бұрын
I don't think a single person is like oh hey he popped rage time to get in and deal more damdge because he lost pdr!
@Drathrin6 ай бұрын
3 tanks with self-sustain and a movespeed ability. Gotta love the logic
@beh2566 ай бұрын
It's literally more better in duos to have 2 barbs then one barb and support
@mmoogl35476 ай бұрын
0:10 if the barb is vigor stacking that 8 hp nerf is reduced to a 4 hp nerf.
@Titanicunillingus6 ай бұрын
Good. It's karma for being a Rogue main. There were 0 complaints when Rogues were everywhere with the landmines and insand burst damage out of nowhere.
@showtime43976 ай бұрын
whole discord and reddit are still full of people crying about rogue
@Murasame136 ай бұрын
No complaints? Complaints were everywhere lmao. Also Lieutenant-sama doesn't really main anything. I've seen him play a lot of longsword warlock I've seen some ranger gameplay, some rogue.
@Titanicunillingus6 ай бұрын
@@Murasame13 I meant complaints from lt sama.
@Murasame136 ай бұрын
@@Titanicunillingus To be fair rogue is fairly weak. It's like a worse barbarian. I'd rather face a rogue any day of the week than a barb. Barbs are as fast as rogues but twice as tanky and hit harder. lmao The only issue with rogue that I have is invis mechanics. Landmine rogue is unfun and just silly from a skill and competitive stand point. But they keep nerfing double jump and mobility instead of nerfing perks/skills/etc related to hiding and ambushing. I wish my character could just open their eyes when a rogue is fully invisible but in a clear as daylight room. Stealth in general needs reworked from the ground up. It needs some kind of system like Baldur's Gate has with the different lighting levels affecting your ability to hide. (NOT an RNG/dice roll system for hiding, just the different light levels changing how hide works.)
@woundedhealer54166 ай бұрын
This is God's punishment for being a pissy rogue who runs away and spams ranged weapons. Keep the buffs coming, Ironmace.
@Murasame136 ай бұрын
Lietutant-sama quite literally not maining rogue: Just look at his channel, he plays everything. lmao.
@christopherowls-jd3us6 ай бұрын
The physical damage bonus is a very small number, you don't do "half" damage
@ret75026 ай бұрын
Wrong, you go from like 10% physical damage bonus to -40% physical damage bonus. I've personally tested it myself, that's how it's always worked.
@sirboomtv6 ай бұрын
Wouldn't the physical damage bonus percentage affect only the physical damage bonus one has rather than the total damage one does? So it shouldnt affect the base damage from a weapon from what I understand only the bonus multiplier that you would get, which is still pretty strong unless I am misunderstanding something with the calculations of this game.
@jamescarriere49306 ай бұрын
Yes, you are correct. You won't be doing half damage, just half your bonus damage from your physical damage bonus. It's like a decrease of 5 damage from what it was. Not that bad
@Bamblagram6 ай бұрын
physical damage bonus is just the multiplier applied to your weapon damage. For example if you have a 20 damage rapier you get roared and now it does 10 damage. of course, characters have their own physical damage bonus and you also have to account for damage reduction.
@Bamblagram6 ай бұрын
@@jamescarriere4930 that is not how physical damage bonus works. if you are in the negative physical damage bonus, you are multiplying your base damage by a negative modifier.
@t0xicrunner6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately not. Gonna repaste this everywhere so people know; The way the skill works is just subtracting 25% from whatever damage stat you have, which is the WHOLE stat, not just the bonus. So 110% would go down to 85% before and will now be down to 60%.
@ardyh87896 ай бұрын
Kinda, it's subtracts 50% (not divides) from your current physical power bonus. If you're at 60%, it'll go down to 10%. If you're at 5%, it'll go down to -45%.
@Kochablusta6 ай бұрын
All i can say to yall scroll sniffers is womp womp
@beh2566 ай бұрын
Can you guys help me find a barbarian main who think he's better then he truly is? Could he be above me? Or could he perhaps bollow me too?
@sebastiang86346 ай бұрын
Perhaps I'm not playing high-teir enough to see it, but in Norm Solo and low-rank HR Solo, I don't tend to run into any issues killing Barbs as a Fighter, Warlock, or Cleric, all of which I see as overall stronger classes. Is it a skill thing, or a gear thing?
@terrellsdoomed6 ай бұрын
honestly mainly gear, but barb utilizes gear arguably the best since they start so good at base. so its kind of both, but mainly gear. normal lobbies have wayyyy better balancing in my experience.
@RuckFussia6 ай бұрын
You're playing some really bad barbs.
@joeydoe4216 ай бұрын
I just started playing barb from rogue and the difference is insane. I've been in normals getting 3-4 kills per round against basically all classes.@@terrellsdoomed
@TheShizzlemop6 ай бұрын
its the axes and the movement speed. they hit you with throwing axe with achilles and give you a -55% slow and then run up and instakill you with their 2-hander/swing viking sword which takes only 2-3 hits instead. its pretty much impossible to outrun barbarian because of how strong the slows are
@egirlpunisher6666 ай бұрын
No no, fighter and warlock are much stronger than barb. Unfortunately this community can’t use their brains or fingers which is why these fighter players complain about barb. Longsword is barbs hard counter - falchionheater crossbow is the staple for dispatching all other classes. Btw I don’t main barb because I’m not brain dead w key player, just look at the leaderboards they’re all either fighter or warlock with some other classes in between.
@colingreen3806 ай бұрын
the 50% damage debuff is for just bonus damage not total damage so it not as bad as it sounds but its still not good
@t0xicrunner6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately not. Gonna repaste this everywhere so people know; The way the skill works is just subtracting 25% from whatever damage stat you have, which is the WHOLE stat, not just the bonus. So 110% would go down to 85% before and will now be down to 60%.
@eirene85366 ай бұрын
Your physical damage % will be flat reduced by 50%. Bonus doesn't mean bonus in this game for some reason. So if you have 0% physical damage bonus, you'll get -50% physical damage bonus. It's worse than it sounds.
@ret75026 ай бұрын
It is for total damage. Your physical power bonus goes from +10% to -40%