They Fixed it! Wouxun KG-Q10H QUAD-BAND Amateur Radio

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They Fixed it! Wouxun KG-Q10H QUAD-BAND Amateur Radio

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11 ай бұрын

Wouxun has fixed their quid-band amatuer radio so it now meets FCC rules for spurious emissions! Good job!
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@HamRadioCrashCourse 11 ай бұрын

How do you know if you’re getting the new radio?? Note from Danny: “All of our in-stock radios, in all colors, are the latest version. Anyone that has had their order ship within the past two weeks has a new one. Probably the easiest way to tell for sure that you have a latest version model is to check the STEP menu and make sure 20K is an option in the list. Adding 20K step was a firmware update that was also added for this second batch and first-batch radios won’t have it.”

@HAMRADIODUDE 10 ай бұрын

I am going to copy and paste this into a few comments in my video, thanks!

@Chris_KS5KY 10 ай бұрын

Nice shoutout to Randy and his "Farsometer 2000". Everyone should have one of these highly calibrated pieces of equipment.

@HamRadioDX 11 ай бұрын

Great testing Josh. I really like my KG-Q10H, it's awesome. Also - nice shirt! 😉 Glad that Wouxun and Danny at Buy Two Way Radios got on top of this so quick!

@CluelessRanchHand 11 ай бұрын

Definitely need to get my SWR meter calibrated to the Farsometer 2000 standard!!!

@HAMRADIODUDE 10 ай бұрын

Great to see multiple radios are now passing! Thanks for the shout-out

@MTimWeaver 10 ай бұрын

I had an old Icom W32a that did cross-band repeat. When I got it, I think it was one of the few HTs that did it. Worked great. Radio finally bricked itself back around 2011. May have to look at one of these. Thanks for the update!

@Chris-hy6jy 2 ай бұрын

Good to see you testing the receiver on this. Would be nice to see you use a SINAD meter on the AF output to get some numbers to compare against other radios. Make a leaderboard! 👍

@TheWhistlenpete 10 ай бұрын

Received mine on September 11th and it has the firmware update confirmed by the 20K STEP. Finally finished programming it (yeah, that's not the LAST time for that) and been testing it. So far, I'm pretty happy with how it is performing. I'll add the Diamond SRH940 antenna when it arrives next week to test out the reception difference. Yeah, I'm thrilled to have it....the wife is just shaking her head!

@Jimbo_Conn 8 ай бұрын

Question: does it receive and tx better than an uv 5x in your opinion? Mayne s dumb question but .. Also can you listen to CB channels or is that just their gmrs radio? Thanks

@bero2 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Josh for doing tests like these! Now my conscience knows I'm not an airwave polluter!

@gliderrider 11 ай бұрын

I long for the day when a handheld can do all these bands and be all mode. Maybe with a little Morse code button on it. I’m sure it would be a hit!

@Emcipio 11 ай бұрын

Trusdx kinda is! Just takes some assembly required 😂

@davidw3gzs55 10 ай бұрын

Here's an under-appreciated small radio that did it all. It's a somewhat larger than a handheld with a different form factor but can be held in one hand and slung over the shoulder so your hands are free. The FT-818 has all modes 160M thru 70cm. it is (was) a truly amazing radio discontinued last year after being in production for over 20 years by Yaesu..

@gliderrider 8 ай бұрын

@@davidw3gzs55 I have it! Just about wore out now.

@gliderrider 8 ай бұрын

@@Emcipio I have the ‘classic’ band one. It does a lot for what it is. But the filters are weak. Nearby strong signals can’t be filtered out and living near a broadcast radio station made it useless until about a week ago. Got an external filter that took care of that.

@scotterdog1036 11 ай бұрын

Josh, You da ham, man. Great work!

@bills7115 11 ай бұрын

Love the radio but it says 6w and the only reason I would want this radio is 6m and 220. But max 2w on 6m is tonally unacceptable. I have a vx8 whish was a bit more money how ever they are not made any more. I guess I'll have to wait till some one puts out a decent 5-7 watt 6m HT.

@joedidit3233 3 ай бұрын

I agree with you there. Although it's a nice radio, no real reason to buy it at $220 over a lot of other radios in that price range other than the ability to transmit on 220 and especially 6 meters. And 6-meter repeaters are often few and far between, so good transmit power is can be needed to hit the not so close repeaters. It's a pity they didn't give it reasonable power for 6 meters.

@someguy782 Ай бұрын

@@joedidit3233 It's a gimmick, nothing more.

@ghostmandka5498 11 ай бұрын

Trust but verify!

@NathanMazanec 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for quick tldr at the beginning. Much easier for my midnight brain! De K1MAZ

@radiohobbyist13 10 ай бұрын

But Wouxon outright refuses to fix the KG-S72C CB walkie-talkie that only puts out 2 watts on AM CB. I would've bought several of them if they had manufactured them correctly. 🤷

@kchaney56 4 ай бұрын

Love this radio, I have two.

@oncomics1128 11 ай бұрын

where do we get that hand for our workbench??

@alexhurd1038 6 ай бұрын

Josh are you working on some more content testing this radio out in the field? This is thing is super interesting. Thanks!

@TMS5100 9 ай бұрын

@0:07 @2:55 actually likely not pass! If you are using 40dBm attenuator, that puts the spur at around -10dBm which exceeds FCC limit of -16dBm. See 97.307(e): "For a transmitter having a mean power of 25 W or less, the mean power of any spurious emission supplied to the antenna transmission line must not exceed 25 µW and must be at least 40 dB below the mean power of the fundamental emission". 25 µW is -16dBm.

@CyborgAlienBariaur 11 ай бұрын

But, is it in hardware or something that can be software patched to fix it on older models, will there be a recall if not?!?

@HamRadioCrashCourse 11 ай бұрын

Hardware.

@spasmonaut10 11 ай бұрын

Had the same question. Would be helpful to know if they plan to help out existing customers with the noncompliant radios. Warranty replacement?

@HamRadioCrashCourse 10 ай бұрын

Call them!

@mikesmithg0rfd356 11 ай бұрын

thank you

@Guillermo11277 2 ай бұрын

Can you do a video on Wouxun's tri-mode KG-V98 PoC radio? Super interested in an analog radio that does LTE but there seems to be no traction on these aside from the LTE-only options like Rapid Radio and Hytera Halo.

@SuperAbel17 7 ай бұрын

Analizaste el talkpod?. Se ve muy bonito!. No sé si pedirlo, jeje!. Yendo bien en UHF y VHF, y escuchando bien la banda aérea... Me conformo! 😁👌

@patrick70335 3 ай бұрын

Question for anyome with one of these radios, i can't get this thing i to 1.25m or 6m bands. Its stuck in UHF/VHF. Long press on the area button only gets me between the two. Typing in the frequency in VFO mode won't get there either. Thoughts?

@ralphnunn3 11 ай бұрын

'Spurious Talk Bomb'. LOL

@zyphrumzypheny2631 8 ай бұрын

I tested my Q10H with the Tiny SA, the best I got was a harmonic at 36db

@tomKZ8TOM 11 ай бұрын

⁠ ⁠@HamRadioCrashCourse I have so many questions. If this can be fixed with a software patch, why can’t all Baofeng’s be fixed? How would the hardware not be at fault as well? Somehow reminds me of the Volkswagen emissions software debacle and recall of millions of vehicles. Why wouldn’t the manufacturer QA test before shipping? Especially radios sent to the FCC and reviewers. Just trying to understand the basics.

@HamRadioCrashCourse 11 ай бұрын

It can’t be fixed with sofktware.

@chasingdawn8635 10 ай бұрын

The wife is going to be so mad when this shows up😂

@dennisschultz1175 10 ай бұрын

They fixed it bit the power output dropped significantly on 3 of the 4 bands....

@HamRadioCrashCourse 10 ай бұрын

Nah similar power before. Also there is I guess an "ULTRA" power output now. I hit 5 watts on 2m and 6 on 70cm.

@jeffgallaway1557 4 ай бұрын

Someone needs to test out the smiley 2m 5/8 wave ht antenna on the 6m & 2m bands to see how it does

@sixshooter4570 6 ай бұрын

I hear you can unlock these too. Press and hold the one button turn it on and press 1445. Might be the wrong number but there's a video on it.

@RINNTY 5 ай бұрын

It's the no.2 button when you turn it on to unlock, then 1445. No. 1 to lock.

@radiohobbyist13 10 ай бұрын

I wish it did 902-928 (33cm) instead of 6m band.

@RINNTY 5 ай бұрын

Would love to see one of these in 902-928 band at 4 watts. No one makes one except Retevis at 1.2 watts. No lcd or k.pad.

@mtbeers1670 11 ай бұрын

I have a question are they doing a recall? Do I need to reach out to buy two-way radios or do they have a download to fix this issue?

@HamRadioCrashCourse 11 ай бұрын

I would.

@markallan4849 3 ай бұрын

This radio had problems in the GMRS model also. Kenwood plug on the side was not letting you program or use an external microphone. That was a month ago from this post. Just 4 the record. Wouxun rushed this radio, and their quality control sucked on this radio!

@topgun260 8 ай бұрын

I wonder if there are any plans to make this work on APRS?

@RINNTY 5 ай бұрын

Nice Radio, is it Chirp programmable.

@RogueElement959 5 ай бұрын

It's in the final beta stages of testing

@wpzq634 10 ай бұрын

So if I purchased a first batch is there a firmware fix or swap for a newer one?

@HamRadioCrashCourse 10 ай бұрын

Idk. Contact the seller.

@osculant 11 ай бұрын

Sorry if I missed this in the video, is there recourse for those of us who bought them right when they came out?

@HamRadioCrashCourse 11 ай бұрын

Unsure. Contact who you bought from.

@osculant 11 ай бұрын

@@HamRadioCrashCourse buytwowayradio. Wasn’t sure if they had indicated to you that faulty models would be replaced.

@HamRadioCrashCourse 10 ай бұрын

Didn’t tell me. Please contact them

@philliponfri7938 10 ай бұрын

I have a radio when they first came out. How do I upgrade it so that it's not leaking all over the place? Is it a firmware upgrade and where to get it?

@D4.4 10 ай бұрын

Trust manufacturers on power outputs? Hahahaha! I'll first trust a politician on anything that comes out the sound hole.

@n2rj 10 ай бұрын

Hmm. I'm skeptical though. Be careful. Video incoming.

@maddog57ful 9 ай бұрын

Talkpod is not bad especially compared to any Baofeng.

@HamRadioCrashCourse 9 ай бұрын

In what way? Talkpod is the worst specially dirty radio I have ever used.

@montef 11 ай бұрын

Hey Josh, recent new subscriber to your channel. Nice work. Glad I stumbled across it. In this video, you use a couple of different attenuators in attaching the radios to your spectrum analyzer. I’ve been looking for something small and easy to transport like that. I don’t see them listed in your Amazon store. Am I just missing them, or are they something that you’ve had for a while and they aren’t available any longer?

@HamRadioCrashCourse 11 ай бұрын

Go watch my recent TinySA video. It has all the links. 👍

@montef 10 ай бұрын

@@HamRadioCrashCourse Oh. Great! Thanks!! It’s gonna take me a while to work my way through your whole video catalog. 🤯

@jasonhoy5402 10 ай бұрын

Is this full duplex for birds. Can I transmit on vhf and recieve on uhf at the same time?

@kingfish4575 11 ай бұрын

Now to fix the talkpod

@n2rj 10 ай бұрын

slap a GMRS label on it and disable VHF

@TheHandyHam73 3 ай бұрын

I have seen problems with QC or quality control in the production of Chinese Radios. Wide variation in performance and specification of these radios means that one radio might be good and the next one off the assembly line might be bad so you can't assume all are good like the one tested here. The legal and responsible way to go in my opinion is for everybody who uses them must learn and purchase the equipment to test them yourselves and be sure your equipment complies with FCC regulations. Test & comply is my motto. Have a good day. 73

@hikingfish3 8 ай бұрын

I understand the need to verify spurious emissions (well, shouldn't the FCC be checking this actual? but what do I know), but I feel you (and others) spend a lot of time talking about that specific part without covering the features that this radio offers. I had completely discarded this radio as a possible upgrade from a UV-5R, because honestly, I do not really care about the extra bands. However, after having watched other reviews that showed the actual features of this radio (notably, NOAA alerts), it checks all my 'must haves' and most of my 'nice to have' features I'd want from a radio. I'm not saying to remove the part about spurious emissions from the original video, but maybe do a bit more editing to condense it to a minute or two max? Hopefully, this is taken as intended, constructive comments. I enjoy your videos a lot. Cheers!

@HamRadioCrashCourse 8 ай бұрын

Did you watch my first video on the radio? Where I demonstrated the features?

@keathrhymer5449 10 ай бұрын

what is the watts output can it do 10 watts like my tidradio tdH8

@jesuspompa1473 7 ай бұрын

I appreciate the effort but they can send you an updated version but still send everyone else out of spec radios.

@HamRadioCrashCourse 7 ай бұрын

Do you have evidence of that? I’d want to know. Thanks!

@jesuspompa1473 7 ай бұрын

@@HamRadioCrashCourse good point Sir.

@HamRadioCrashCourse 7 ай бұрын

I mean that seriously, if you or anyone you know ends up with a spurious transmitter I want to know ASAP. Thanks!

@Eric10179 11 ай бұрын

Is the spike with the “1” the first harmonic or the fundamental on the TinySA & Ultra?

@JonathanKayne 11 ай бұрын

It’s the fundamental frequency.

@HamRadioCrashCourse 11 ай бұрын

the 1 in this case is the fundamental, e.g. the frequency I am transmitting on.

@patrickhenry8425 10 ай бұрын

Where was that link to the review again?

@keathrhymer5449 9 ай бұрын

now if they change to usb c charging

@HamRadioCrashCourse 9 ай бұрын

It does charge off USB-C

@mattslivar5174 8 ай бұрын

They sell only in us for shiping to EU costs 180 and device over 200 not worth it for now

@billisnice 9 ай бұрын

Still not CHIRP compatible...

@kenroberts4767 11 ай бұрын

How is the AM aircraft band receive quality?

@HamRadioCrashCourse 11 ай бұрын

Go watch the initial review, I covered that.

@yinglyca1 11 ай бұрын

Mabey they only fixed the one they sent you.

@HamRadioCrashCourse 11 ай бұрын

Maybe. 🤷🏼‍♀️

@rogerp5816 11 ай бұрын

I'm not clear, was this a software / firmware update or a hardware mod?

@HamRadioCrashCourse 11 ай бұрын

Hardware. No software can fix poor filtering.

@philliponfri7938 9 ай бұрын

Now if it could only do GMRS :-) ( if it could only be allowed I mean ;-) ) lol

@Rusted_Link 8 ай бұрын

Insert a hand mic and report the results please. DO IT! DO IT NOW! please

@2heavyb517 Ай бұрын

Insufficient performance for that price point

@Pether55 10 ай бұрын

Don't you need to test this radio so it complies with FCC 97.307.e before you say it is ok? FCC 97.307.e, for radios transmitting on a frequency between 30-225 MHz: "...the mean power of any spurious emission supplied to the antenna transmission line must not exceed 25 µW and must be at least 40 dB below the mean power of the fundamental emission, but need not be reduced below the power of 10 µW...."

@HamRadioCrashCourse 10 ай бұрын

That’s what I did 🤨

@Pether55 10 ай бұрын

@@HamRadioCrashCourse Please look at KZfaq videos from TheSmokinApe and Ham Radio DX, they show how you do to see if the radio complies with FCC 97.207.e Can we really trust the test results from a TinySA Ultra? The radio you test in this video fails the 0.25uW or -16.02 dBm requirements in FCC 97.207.e, if we can trust the test equipment you have. Example from your video: 6m Calling Fundamental freq. -3.3 dBm Second harmonic -51.7 dBc below the fundamental freq. Attenuator 40 dB Second harmonic -3.3 - 51.7 + 40 = -15dBm

@HamRadioCrashCourse 10 ай бұрын

Hmm, let me take a look! Thanks!

@TMS5100 9 ай бұрын

@@HamRadioCrashCourse you need to redo this test. 25uW is -16dBm and assuming you're using a 40dBm attenuator, the first 146mhz spur is -10dBm which exceeds limits. this radio still fails FCC specs.

@MrFreddarama 6 ай бұрын

What rule applies for equipment below 30 MHz? I am curious. Thanks.

@nandrews8412 11 ай бұрын

I need to see at least 4 watts across all bands for it to be considered a quad band radio. Im calling it a FAIL.

@grigorirasputin5020 8 ай бұрын

Dual or triple conversion receive, too!

@joeyduese6638 4 ай бұрын

It’s not a fail. The wattage is to be expected for a handheld. Appreciate that it has more features than most

@josephjames259 3 ай бұрын

A lot of transceivers have less output on some bands. A lot of dual band transceivers have less output on uhf. It’s not failure, just design compromises.

@45auto 11 ай бұрын

Just trust the manufacturer? Does that guy think you should just trust the government also?

@JonathanKayne 11 ай бұрын

I thought the point of this video was to verify that. It has nothing to do with trusting anyone. He is saying that it meets the requirements that the government wants. If the 50 dB of suppression isn’t enough for you then don’t buy it.

@45auto 11 ай бұрын

@@JonathanKayne Josh said someone left him a message saying we should just trust the manufacturer. He and I agree that is not the way.

@sixshooter4570 6 ай бұрын

Randy does decent videos but he's an ass. He pinned me because I was trying to be helpful with the pronunciation of Baofeng by listing links on how it was pronounced vocally. He argued on the first link so I edited and added one from how it's vocally pronounced by the Chinese and that's when he got butt hurt. I got into GMRS because of his videos so I do appreciate his work, however, any person doing KZfaq videos that attack their subscribers isn't a smart thing to do in my opinion.