Players deserve to complain about this but pls to THOSE genshin players.. do not send death threats or even dox the devs

Seeing Tuonto talking about this drama feels SOO GOOD, FINALLY the Genshin CCs actually start to acknowledge the disrespect the devs give it their players

Even worse, they dont even address this, instead they try cover it up with bilibili bots to put their follow count back to normal. This is so irritating. in my opinion, trying to cover it up in a way like that honestly feels even worse for me. Disappointed.

This is entirely.......no.......MORE THEN deserved......genshin has treated its players badly forever, and starrail shows that genshin can BE BETTER and i think thisnis 1000% a good thing

the fact that they'd have faced less backlash if they decided to not even mention those 3 intertwined fates lmao

A Shit Here We Go again - Veteran Genshin Players

They might as well gave us nothing instead of only 3 wishes. It's like sprinkling crumbs to pigeons. Tone deaf and out of touch 😭

In the 10th anniversary we will finally get 10 intertwined fates 🤑

Lack of communication, lack of content, lack of rewards, lack of respect from a customer perspective for me, the main reasons why this is happening.

I just hope there's better communication from player to devs as they promised

There's a good reason why people compare Star Rail to Genshin, it's because of the many mechanics and UI similarities far more than Honkai 3rd and so here's a list of things/mechanics that Star Rail has that Genshin still doesn't have (and vice versa) Here's Star Rail (the ones I can remember) -240 Resin with a reserve resin system that stores upto 2400 resin after the normal one is filled with each resin being refilled every 18 mins for the reserve -weekly bosses can be done a total of 3 times instead of being able to claim it's rewards only once -every boss in the game (including weekly bosses) cost 30 resin -resin refills in 6 mins (Genshin takes 8 mins) -daily commissions get completed if you just burn your resin -bp is 70 levels (after 50 lvl you get 10k mora per level) -auto battle -with a recent change, you can now do floor 11 equivalent and floor 9 and 10 get completed automatically -floor 13 equivalent added in Star Rail -New type of endgame added other than abyss -10 free pulls every patch -you can do the big events of the patch completely (like Lantern Rite or the current Film shooting event involving Cheveruse equivalent) starting from day one rather than them being time gated -Self modeling resin, an item that allows you to craft any artifact with your desired main stat -strongbox has every artifact in the game as soon as they are added, you don't have to wait until major world updates for new sets to be added -shop has 5 star standard weapons to buy -you are given different dialogue options rather than same dialogue option in different voice (active/passive) when choosing a dialogue -every event has more primos, 2.5k primos from the main event (Genshin gives 980-1040) and 640 from side events (Genshin gives 420) -A history system during story that allows you to see all the dialogues of the current talking (imagine you are talking with an npc and you accidentally skipped their sentence, there's a button in the corner that shows you the history of all the dialogues that just occured) -Star Rail gives you a beginner banner that gives you a guaranteed five star after 50 pulls (discounted, every 10 pull costs only 8 fates so technically you are spending only 40 fates) -5 star selector on standard banner once you reach 300 pulls -You can play past events and gain some of the rewards as well (about 640-800 primos worth) -your choices matter, you can quite literally skip a characters story quest if you distrust them (specifically speaking, it was KAFKA'S) and still gain the rewards -Simulated Universe which resets every week that gives 225 primos and a STANDARD BANNER TICKET, 300k mora and a special ticket that if collected over time, you can buy some f2p 5 star weapon which are pretty goddarn useful -story quests give 110-120 primos instead of 65-70 For Genshin -you can afford to put an off piece artifact and still complete the 4p set you want on the character -bigger world to explore (negative or positive depending on how you see it) -live combat rather than turn based (depends on taste of the person playing) ...I can't think of anything else Edit - making some changes cuz Star Rail has...even more stuff💀 The new changed/stuff added is as followed -the reserve resin being 2400 not 1800 -character ascension is FAR easier as to ascend a character you need to only do bosses and have some enemy mats which you can gain from expeditions unlike Genshin where you also need local materials, gemstones -talent domains are available at all days rather than being available at only some days -you can interact with characters out of story at specific locations at any time -in 2.0, they are adding a timeline system that shows you shen each trailblaze quest took place -there is only one featured weapon in the weapon banner meaning if you lose 50/50 once then next time you get a five star, it's guaranteed to be the one you want rather than having two weapons and epitomised path like Genshin

google classrooms is looking over nervously once more

I feel like this is the way communication between the game and the community should be. Respectfully and calmly giving critics instead of lashing out aggressively or pretending to be unaware (Genshin till now)

It's crazy that these rewards for dedication over the years to Genshin are THIS pitiful especially since the HSR 2.0 livestream JUST ended and it ended with an announcement of Not just the 10 wishes HSR players have now come to expect every patch but 20 free pulls instead. 10 additional pull vs 3 additional pulls. SAME COMPANY. Come on man... Edit 30 seconds later: Of course Genshin players deserve a lot more than just additional pulls (Like a 5* character) as it has been shown that the company can definitely be this generous with their other titles.

And Star Rail got a kick ass fucking music video

these 3 entertwinded fates are worth the same as like 12 days of daily's , mihoya thank you for letting me know that 1 years support is worth 12 days of dailys

It’s probably going to plummet even more with the rewards they announced just today for HSR - 20 free pulls in honor of Chinese New Year It’s really…really tone deaf

in my opinion i think that genshin is a great game, i have played for almost as long as genshin has been released for and i sincerely love it. but i do think that genshin should be WAY more generous to their fans because it is getting ridiculous at this point. i mean, 3 PULLS BRO?

Hsr giving 20 free pulls just gonna add more fuel to the fire.

The review bombing on who collabed with genshin makes sense, cause ppl would know that kind of stuff happen with genshin, and therefore genshin would lose potential collabs

Tbh if they didn't mention it and randomly sent these 3 fates under the name of random more bonus from mail, it would solve the problem

"To THANK everyone for their support" - 3 pulls is not thank you, it's f**k you. Can we please stop logging in?

I’m totally agree with the disatisfaction of Genshin's rewards. I just hope Wuthering Waves could pull off a Palworld and Genshin players stop spending or uninstall the game. Both of those factors could finally force Hoyo to change their mind and improve Genshin. I'll definitely try WW because the game has playable old man lol

3 wishes for 3 years was a slap in the face, but im sure theyll bump it up to 10 pulls to placate the players...which is SO not the point! F the rewards, PLEASE just listen to the community and implement the changes we've all been asking for. But, like always, players will eat up that extra 10 pull, and we'll forget about this until next year 🤷‍♀️

tuonto is finally agreeing after disagreeing with us in the livestream watch party, lesgo

So glad to see content creators talk about this

chúc mừng năm mới to all my fellow viets out there. i totally get the frustration. i personally don’t care that much, but considering we’ve supported the game for so long, we seriously deserve more. the treatment genshin fans get from hyv and genshin’s team is atrocious. we’re never listened to. ever. it’s not like we’re making crazy stupid points; it’s genuine, valid criticism. and yet we’re ignored, as always.

Tf is wrong with this Hoyoverse. Out of all the gacha games , this one feels like the devs are paying for our rewards. It already has so many issues, why is the company turning a blind eye to all these problems. To start, people wanted more resin or more stuff that let's us farm. There's no endgame content. The artifact rng is insane + the resin cap is a BIG issue. The daily rewards are so low, it takes 3 whole days to get 1 pull and one character takes an avg of 105 pulls (including 50 50 losing chances) Entire patches give 5000-7000 primos and have 4 character banners. For an f2p even getting a single character so hard enough, its unreal. With this vast gacha system I don't understand how Hoyo chooses to give rewards like '420 primos' or '600 primos' in events and maintenance, both combined don't even give 10 pulls and now there's this. This is well deserved, infact , they're probably havin it ez.

hoyo is the genshin killer themselves

I for one, have uninstalled the game because I felt like I as a player wasn't being respected. I'm not saying everyone should uninstall the game, if you are enjoying it then all the more power to you. Just don't let sunk cost fallacy force you to keep playing and spending on the game

After That HSR Special program today, Genshin will lost a lot more.

It really isn't about the rewards anymore (it still is but not the whole point), just the treatment we've been getting so far and the QoL we've been asking for since the start but they don't listen to their players. The treatment their playerbase (myself included) is getting is beyond disrespectful, we are giving valid criticism because we love the game not because we hate it. More CCs should join this, especially the bigger ones, in all honesty. I pity the people that think they're getting what they deserve. And if you don't want to complain then alright, but don't dismiss and shut up the people that are doing it.

Such a crazy drama that we've gotten, I feel like it's for the best for Hoyoverse so those who deserve better rewards matter, like come on... 3 pulls after 3 years of this game's support? Are you kidding me? Now I can definitely see why the Chinese player base is upset, this is a joke, by never expect to see millions unfollow, same goes with fast food channels 😂

and star rail is getting 20 free wishes just from a region patch. to put this into perspective genshin only gives out 20 fates on its anniversary each year. it's kind of ridiculous how different both the games are treated when it comes to rewards

Tbh now I’m just worried that Hoyo will try to satisfy only the CN community and completely ignore the western community once again because we all know that they don’t care ab us lol

i am glad that big genshin creators like you talk about this thing. I will just see how the devs respond although i expect nothing from them anymore.

I must admit I’m getting rather annoyed about how players are being treated. Last year I had a fraudulent charge on my account from Genshin, contacted my bank and they gave me a refund and a new card. Turns out those fraudulent charges were used on my Genshin account, and last week Thursday I received a message saying they were deducting the primos and if they remained after a certain time, I’d loose my account. I contacted customer support, asking if there was something else they could do and they said there wasn’t, and that I’d have to buy more primos (£100 worth btw) to save my account. I gave up on that account now, which I had for over a year and spent money myself on it. I understand not having a refund policy, but they weren’t even willing to rid of it any other way.

Been playing almost since the launch- so this is just a absolute fucking slap in the face- especially seeing hsr players getting a free limited 5* character with is absolutely cracked. This just.. hurts to see..

to make this even worse, we found out today that not only have we just received a free limited 5 star banner character in H.S.R but we will also be getting 20, yes 20 free pulls in 2.0 for the release of penacony. genshin is my first gaming love but I'm finding it harder and harder to keep up the love. I'm enjoying hsr but it isn't genshin. I'm definitely looking forward to release of Wuthering Waves and if genshin doesn't step things up i think a lot of people will head over there

3 fates for 3 years its been made *thanks mihoyo*

Absolutely deserved. I was expecting this since the first anniversary. I knew someday hoyo would bend to their knees.

Losing that many followers is crazy I haven’t seen nothing like that before. Like. EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE INTERNET.

the only reason i compared hsr and genshin is because it feels like mihoyo took everything from the surveys they got from genshin and applied it to hsr while shrugging in the background as genshin basically remains and plays the same all while getting less and less rewards. i think with playing the game, they are very different and i enjoy them both, but when it comes to things we've asked for, for genshin IN genshin surveys, being implemented in hsr is definitely something we can compare.

you can see that tuonto is holding back and choosing those neutral nice word, he don't want to be honest with his thoughts cuz he might lose his relationship with hoyoverse, damn

HSR getting carnivals all over the world and here we are, getting Keqing phone and PS5 bundle…

I really don’t care about the awards but I feel bad about the players who have been loving and supporting the game for three years and all they get is just some trash I have told my dad about this lmao he said that’s messed up and other things I really think that every servers should get treated right and mihoyo should really fix the awards I like the game and all but the awards are just trash u can even get a purple star in 3 pulls but depends on what ur pity is- but still I really feel bad for the other servers everyone deserves so much better😭

A billion dollar game with 60fps cap 💀

I'm hoping that this will be the fuel needed for hoyoverse to actually listen to our voices, and actually ackowledge our feedback. Because I'm hoping that theyre not just going to dump an extra 10 pulls and call it a day - if they dont make change, I honestly dont think i can handle playing the game anymore. Dont get me wrong, I love the game and have been playing for a while. But when hoyo acts like this, it reminds me that they dont care about their players at all.

... and the whole Liben event in genshin this week was not to give us Natlan crumbs, but to tease that this event is coming to HSR world too (more generous than in genshin of course). Oh and CNY update in HSR gives more rewards than in GI, what a surprise. So mihoyo can be nice, genshin team just don't want to. They're just trying us and how much of this bs we can take fr

It is so deserved. Their idea of rewards are always so out of touch. Wow 3 single wishes for years of support. Insulting

bro is trying to avoid being hated by mihoyo so badly

im one of those players that doesn't really care abt the rewards that genshin gives us on occasions like these but now that im seeing this situation i really do wish they would be more thoughtful

nah i feel bad for genshin players. never played genshin but back in early days of honkai we were treated quite the same but honkai became very generous later. turns out it was because of cai houyu later he left hi3 and came to genshin. he was replaced with David Jiang who handles both games. he handles them so well that players were very happy. i think genshin players also deserve this treatment.

tuonto tea time was not on my 2024 bingo card

honestly, I am mad the skin selector is only available in china on ps5 I understand yeah they have to make money but they do via creators, and non f2p players etc, they must have some way to reward us. 30 fates would be enough instead of 3? or even like 20. just for the whole year. they’re just making all their players mad atp tbf because you can see how many rewards hsr players are getting, and a FREE GUARENTEED 5 star at the start? all we get is Noelle 😟

2:20 This is so funny to me. "Thanks for all of your support for the past year(s) so in return, here's absolutely nothing!"

The guy who works on Genshin is Cai Haoyu, the same guy who used to work for HI3rd before it got better rewards. As soon as that guy got replaced and moved to Genshin, HI3rd started to actually give good stuff. Btw, the same dude who now works on HSR is also working on HI3rd, and we're getting a lot of rewards in these two games.

Finally every content creator should address their mistreatment of such a dedicated playerbase who literally made them a billion dollar company.

Reasonable reaction 100% after seeing the HSR 2.0 live stream and welp yes genshin legit said go fk yourselves with these 3 fates

This reminds me of another game i used to play, love nikki which had a very impactful cn community as well as the game is from a cn company. When things felt unfair, that community was very good at organizing themselves to go on strike and things like that to increase rewards and the like and i expect that it would work with genshin too

(my opinion) Genshin Impact is realy good tbh. the gameplay, the graphics, the story, all of these are great... I'm not angry at Genshin but the thing is they should be more generous :0 they should support us just like how we support the game.

this already backfired when honkai star rail just announced that 20 wishes are given to its players for chinese new year. genshin devs really just stingy. its like they mocked us in the video and theyd want us players to boycott the game altogether

Spill the tea sis skskssksks 🍵 Imo if the community is supporting genshin that much than maybe increase the rewards just a bit? But im not hardcore so i dont really care. BUT it is really really painful to see the genshin community’s requests being put into a dif game which was made by the same company😢 like we asked for a standard 5* but instead hsr (thats alot younger than genshin) got a LIMITED free 5*?! Ik ik maybe their like “oh we cant do that thats to much” which is fine but seeing it put into hsr? Anyways just my opinion and sorry if the comment is long😅

I mean, if we compared of what happened with the first anniversary, where I think they lost like 10 million subs on the oficial YT channel, is not like the first time that something like this happened.

I know zy0x said there's no point in comparing the games but honestly, what if the teams switched for a couple patches? Like I seriously can't help but wonder does the hoyoverse company as a whole just favor honkai? Even if they did, surely they can do something for the game that generated so much popularity and profit for their company? The only thing I haven't seen people complain about in Genshin is the music which makes me happy as a musician but everything else, even as a Chinese person who doesn't live in China, it's just so disappointing. 3 years of playing, the rewards haven't even changed. No improvement, barely listening to the community, do they even value the game? During the live stream, it sounded like the devs genuinely loved the game and worked hard on 4.4 but like, who's deciding how to deal with the rewards system? Who's deciding the quality of life changes should happen? My favorite one was the recent one where you automatically teleport to the red key in domains but their artifact loadout system is kind of pointless. If Genshin's community got even a bit more attention and sympathy from devs, the game would be so much better. Like ain't no way HSR just gave out a free 5 star that's actually decent and during Genshin's 3rd anniversary (which is usually worse than Lantern Rite), they just sent like a 10-pull in the mail and another free 10 pull. Like huh?

It's because of cai huo. He was the author of hi3 but he got sued. And then hi3 got better rewards and all that now he is giving genshin thee same treatment as hi3.

Players deserve to complain cuz it’s like what 4 years since the game 4 years of supporting just to get 3 fudging wishes!???

its the fact that you get more fates if you dont login for a certain time period than an event based around an actual holiday that baffles me

THANK YOU for speaking out about this

I played for goddamn 3 years and this what i get 3 wishes???

Thank you for covering this issue and not deciding to wait it out. It's good to finally see big Genshin CCs acknowledging the game's problems. If we want it to get better, we have to be loud for once.

I don’t understand why giving a decent amount of pulls isn’t possible🤔 like people will use them quickly and there’s no losing money

This is good that more players are now talking about this.

BRO 3 YEARS , THEY SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST GAVE US 30 FATES

I am getting flashbacks to the First genshin anniversary, here we go again

I can actually see them releasing the custom loadouts. It might just have to be tweaked to keep it from generating a dupe issue if I had to guess? I've seen something very similar happen in other games that released something similar

The problem is not the reward but the way they present it, "3 fates for your loyalty", they treat their loyal fans who help them grow their fame like today as if they were beggars, they turn gift into an insult, that's what triggered cn community

The Skin selector isn't technically free cause u still have to pay 500$ for it (for the ps5)

meanwhile in places like the subreddit, the community is ostracizing anyone with a complaint and trying to white knight genshin's reward system

It's about so much more then the rewards, we've been asking for better endgame and quality of life updates for years, yet all those featured went to HSR and not genshin, them getting better rewards and the 5* is just an extra layer on top of that to me tbh

Thanks for making this Tuonto! Here's to hoping we see change

ngl they should lose a couple mil more on every platform

I just wanted to really emphasise thank you for speaking up about this but also to the fans, hsr and genshin peeps shouldn’t be arguing against each other. As a whole we should be demanding better treatment from the company, together we’re a stronger consumer voice.

I haven't watched the 4.4 livestream so when I heard that 3 intertwined fate, my jaw dropped. I'm so disappointed and tbh I kinda expected this as well (considering all the previous rewards from anniversaries). It just begs the question of how worse will it get the next time 🤷‍♀️ I still love and want to play genshin even with the rewards not being the best but at this point, the rewards from these major events just makes me feel like it's just a passing small event and not even special.

Genshin lacks so many important things such as the community's communication with the devs.(did that made sense, yeah it did whatever) If anything they deserve the unfollow and this whole backlash thing. Imagine being rewarded three fates for supporting the game for THREE WHOLE YEARS. I'm not trying to be rude, I know it's not the WHOLE genshin team's fault but seriously they need to stop treating their player base like we're some pathetic sugar daddies/mommies to buy everything in the game. What can you even achieve with that 3 free pulls, a c6 Xinyan?? Yeah right this is ridiculous.

We are not gonna ignore that Genshin devs continue to mistreat their GI players for 3 years while HSR gets more rewards instantly after 10 months bcs their devs are too generous.

3 PULLS,YIKES,while HSR gave a free 5 star event character for thanking our support in the game,also 20 pulls in new upcoming update

Three Fates for three Dull Blades, enjoy.

I’m definitely more in the camp of just wanting to play genshin, I’ve honestly never really cared about rewards. If we get cool stuff that’s awesome, but if we don’t then it doesn’t really matter.

OMG! im so excited to get my c6 r5 nahida with my 3 fates🥰🥰🥰😊😊😊

more tuontalks in the future please!! :) i’m not on twitter or genshin, i just stumbled upon a horror video a year ago and genshin content came with it :D

from what i heard the head manager of genshin used to be HI3 head and they had shitty rewards back there too and when they got a new one they started getting good shit, the same head that works on HI3 now works on HSR and we get good rewards there too, and so the head manager that works on genshin is known to be quite strict about the free rewards

they honestly added (a lot) more fuel to the fire by ADDRESSING their fans’ support, specifically thanking them for the past year with 3 fates. Chinese new year or lunar new year, whatever you call it, is extremely important to chinese people, i’d even say it would be considered much more important than the anniversary. In real life, many idols and stars will prepare months before the chinese new year for the events, etc. The fact that hoyoverse hasn’t shown the same appreciation of not just their fans but also of this event is really disappointing, especially when you realise they’ve been doing the same thing every year for lantern rite, a free liyue 4 star, login every day for 10 pulls, etc. However, no one said anything until now, i guess the string snapped after so long or maybe it was because of their announcement of 3 intertwined fates for the past year, whatever it is, im pretty glad that a lot of people are complaining because the lantern rite has been very lacklustre in everything BUT story quests and cutscenes. I might be biased because Im chinese, but i just think that lantern rite should be a much more bountiful event, even if i was biased because im chinese, it seems hoyoverse is not as biased as i am.

I swear i dont remember how many times i have deleted and installed genshin on repeat 😅 I just get bored and take a break but im too addicted to it i cant miss any sort of free primos , especially seeing genshin content makes me want to play again 😢 i wish they would atleast give us better rewards ...

I'm done with this drama, even how much i complain, nothing will change. There is a saying that history repeats itself

I recently played genshin for almost 3/4 months and i enjoyed it so far bcuz genshin give me the open world & rpg exp. I never expect mihoyo to give us good reward, the reason is i played different type of game before genshin and the company of the game is very greedy? They charge the player with expensive price for low quality skin of character and the way to get the "skin" is through gacha so is 2x more expensive. Not only that the system to level up character and other stuff based how many your spend money on the game. Yeah they still give us a reward but it's not that special or thoughtfull, just basic free gift. This game and genshin both from CN and i just thought that's how CN game works so i never complain about it. But seeing many old players and others who care about this game didn't feel 'love' by how the mihoyo say thank you for playing and support their games for 3 YEARS. Make me support this movement.

last year, i supported the dev for this, even though i didnt feel like it’s enough. but this time, i feel like its too much for them to do this, especially when the thing abt we can choose any of the characters’ skins is specifically for ps5, CN players. thats so unfair 💀

CN Community must take their voices to Caí Haoyu. He is the source of the cancer of Genshin’s tumor. Shame Global Community still lives in a rock and not know the actual reason for Genshin stingy rewards.

"Fuck around, find out." Tale as old as time. Edit: 1st time viewer here, liked and subbed, thanks to Tectone for showing me your vid.

you should try growing out a mullet… like a wolf cut mullet, genuinely think u would so cool wit that