Jump spamming, also known as "bunny hopping" in XDefiant, has been a big topic among the community. Should the developers nerf it?
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@NovaPulseEcho6 күн бұрын
normal jumping is ok when you need to get out of a certain situation but some players jump around like crazy…
@protoman22606 күн бұрын
As for the bunny hopping nerf. The nerf should kick in on the 2ND bunny hop.
@davidponder16546 күн бұрын
The 3rd yeah, 2nd is just gonna make people not use it at all really
@kingvelasquez15796 күн бұрын
Third if they do nerf if again
@TheHolsomback6 күн бұрын
they shouldnt nerf it at all i dont use it but i dont see a problem with it
@protoman22606 күн бұрын
@@davidponder1654 if they don’t use it cuz of a nerf on the 2nd jump then it shows what I’ve always said and suspected. It’s a crutch
@JuniorNel216 күн бұрын
Bunny hopping needs to be nerfed, seriously. I be in engagements where the enemy is jumping the entire gunfight. Like the whole time. It's annoying and stupid. They need to make the penalty for bunny hopping more than just ADS sway. It needs to be something so severe that it makes the player subconsciously aware of the excessive bunny hopping. I even jump. I jump around corners or when an enemy appears out of nowhere in front of me, i jump towards him and turn around to see his back and i start shooting. Those are skill ways of using bunny hop...but hopping around like a grasshopper during a frontal aasult the entire gunfight is stupid and not skillful.
@stryfetc14716 күн бұрын
Jumping hasn't saved my ass not ONCE!...I get sprayed out the air like skeet shooting!😂
@barryrothe41247 күн бұрын
I feel that the ability's are fine but I think they need to make it limited to 2 of each on a team
@sirgrizzlypfote63697 күн бұрын
No they need to be limited 1 per life
@kingvelasquez15796 күн бұрын
Maybe ranked this is a good idea
@evilmuska6 күн бұрын
I feel like if they just removed the ability to change direction mid-air, then bunny hopping would immediately be fine. Cry if you want to but especially with the netcode as bad as it is, it's a problem. When I play this game and some coked out dude with 500 ping comes zig-zagging around a corner and 1-shot body shoots me with a Tac-50, I don't know how anyone is expected to "get good". Anyone spouting that as if it's some sort of legitimate response to this kind of criticism is either a teenager, a content creator, or someone who doesn't have anything else to "get good" at in life but video games. Maybe all 3. Get some perspective outside your own.
@kaidog82045 күн бұрын
YES. This is exactly what I've been saying, and I'm glad someone else notices it. You can literally do like 180 degrees of a full circle changing your movement mid air after a jump, I tested it myself. And that's just not proper physics, I'm sorry, and because of that, it makes it near impossible to track players when they wanna jump around like crack heads. That coupled with what I personally think is an overly slow TTK, just makes it impossible to play some matches. Like most of the SMGs take 8-10 shots to kill even at a reasonable short-medium range. I'm sorry but if I'm running my MP5 and the other guy is jumping around like a crack head, I'm sorry but 90% of the time I'm not winning that gunfight.
@kingchiles43287 күн бұрын
They need to nerf the damn snipers again
@TheHollowBlade6 күн бұрын
They need to fix snipers. From what ive used them the flinch just seems bugged in multiple ways. Because there are times where you do get shot and the gun does indeed have flinch. But a majority of the time it just seems like it does not have flinch. When you get the flinch it makes it almost impossible to hit the shot but if its bugged and almost never there obviously it will seem op.
@chrisupton61906 күн бұрын
Bruh the m44 sniper sucks, and the flinch makes it worse it’s so inconsistent, sometimes it one shots some times not. It’s dog shot and needs a buff.
@chrisupton61906 күн бұрын
@@TheHollowBladeall I get are flinched
@chrisupton61906 күн бұрын
@@TheHollowBladeI get flinch All the time
@overpoweredcasual25996 күн бұрын
Snipers are getting nerfed with the new faction. You can't one shot head shot with that faction
@Omacksanjo4086 күн бұрын
I actually went against a team that got me with three spider at the same time. I shoot one off my face, then the second one sticks on and after I shoot it off the third one stuck and I almost just turned off the game lol it's just annoying 😅
@ko17gametime436 күн бұрын
the b hop is strongest at the first two jumps. so nerfing the third jump would not matter. also if you crouch spam u can crouch 5 or 6 times before the sway effect kicks in. the opitmal movement would be the following sprint with pistol,slide, switch to main gun immediately after,then jump, then jump in the opposite direction then strafe the opposite direction the crouch and switch direction again. this is the optimal movement you will shoot after the first jump. any question pls ask. also i am down for a debate. my grammer is bad so it might sound confusing it easier then it sounds
@renemortensen39525 күн бұрын
Alot of COD bunnies..I see several high ranking players that do nothing else than jumping and more jumping around corners..
@Dartlin7 күн бұрын
Ive noticed some type of increase in flinch recently on AR and Lmgs that was way less extreme about a week ago, at first I thought that I was seeing the aim sway after jumping and that it was stealth nerfed but I think what happened is desync is sometimes causing flinch to kick in before you engage in a gunfight where on the enemy screen, you are already getting hit As much as i want to play ranked i feel like desync will hurt it, dont even get me started on cheating... I think desync improvements over time will improve the feeling of shooting at jumping or moving players
@nickp90586 күн бұрын
1 pm eastern! The xdebrief on July 1st with season 1 details are 1pm eastern!
@ChamaUFC3007 күн бұрын
Why not use a light silencer with echclon so u get ghost and sound suppression without range penalty
@stateofhibernation6 күн бұрын
The bunny hopping does feel like it has been less in my experience, though it still becomes annoying to fight a looney tune bouncing around 😂
@EdgarLinna4 күн бұрын
llora pues (8
@stateofhibernation4 күн бұрын
@EdgarLinna nah I'm good. It's not impossible to deal with 😅 like drop shoting in cod, it's just a dumb annoyance people use 🤷♂️
@EdgarLinna4 күн бұрын
@@stateofhibernationaprende a jugar. y deja de pedir nerf
@stateofhibernation4 күн бұрын
@EdgarLinna it's perfectly reasonable to comment on things that you may not like. for example, you are here complaining about me 🤷♂️😅 like I said before, bunny hopping is annoying but not impossible to deal with. For the heath and longevity of the game I feel it would be better with a nerf than as in its current state, certainly how it was before. While playable, they are killable, it becomes a required play style to combat. Similarly the state of snipers, with very little flinch and time to kill most games turn into a lobby of snipers as it tends to be a one to two shot kill with minimal skill needed. I mean, why wouldn't someone do that if they're just going to not fix it 🤣 no game is perfect. Whether they fix it or not is fine. It does not appear they intended on this to be a factor in their game and are taking measures to fix it. I'm stating my preference on the matter. 🤷♂️
@EdgarLinna4 күн бұрын
@@stateofhibernationpues lo harán cod es aburrido por no tener bunny jump y bueno los sniper no me incomodan, acepto que maten de un tiro solo con condiciones. un shooter sin mecánicas rápidas se vuelve aburrido. apex a recibido mucho nerf durante sus años y aún así sigue tiene la mejor movilidad de cualquier shooter actual. por eso sigo en apex mw2 murió por no considerar la habilidad y su SBM ahora pasará lo mismo con XDefiant yo ya desinstale el juego. no me gustan los shooters si no tienen mecánicas buenas de salto… los saltos ayudan a forzar a los contrincantes tener mejor precisión y reacción
@rashodrucker53692 күн бұрын
If you want a shooter where gravity and physics don’t matter. There are games where you can jump and hop around until your heart’s delight. I would love one where corners and strategic movements rule. Just me tho. 🤷🏾♂️
@georgelea42976 күн бұрын
I agree I can't hit them when they start jumping and the snipers are a pain bit I'm sick of still dying round corners
@MichaelStanton6 күн бұрын
3:03 what is netcode?
@wtfallturbo71756 күн бұрын
The solution to spider bot is #1 take cover concealment gives u more time even if it’s seconds #2 spider bot pounces on u look down and shoot stand still behind cover let it pounces aim down and shoot #3 if u try running from the spider bot in some circumstances the bot lags out causing a glitch where u are unable to shoot it off.. so add it up u hear or see spider bot run to cover stop let it pounce aim down and shoot it off 😂😂😂😂😂 if u play with every class u learn how to counter that class
@renemortensen39525 күн бұрын
Also the player search time is atrocious..I spend more time waiting than actually playing and I put a timer on the waiting...longest wait sofar approx 6-7 min...mostly like 2 to 4 min seems the norm
@TheJakOfAllTradez5 күн бұрын
Turn cross play on. Shouldn't take longer than 30 seconds at longest.
@rashodrucker53692 күн бұрын
Yes please, please, I can’t imagine a bunch of “soldiers” hopping around a battlefield like Mario bros…😑
@_comrade91637 күн бұрын
They will probably just make another token change if the complains continue.
@renemortensen39525 күн бұрын
I have seen bunny hopping since COD 2 and it just gets worse by every release
@rulegorgon22677 күн бұрын
Bunny hoping it’s funny you say this. I was literally smacked a few hours ago gun literally went 10/10 in gunfight against me and literally spammed hopped every single time. Plus the netcode and overall wocky movement in the game. When I was in the 25 and under lobbies the game felt good then now I just get smacked it makes no sense
@Ceezy_yt7 күн бұрын
clear skill issue, get good
@Wuba-dn4jv6 күн бұрын
@@Ceezy_ytAnd your skill issue is that you don't go outside
@Ceezy_yt6 күн бұрын
@@Wuba-dn4jv what if I told you I was sun burnt?
@davidponder16546 күн бұрын
Because in the under 25 playlist youre playing with sbmm. Youre playing with other bad players. Every other playlist doesnt have sbmm so youre playing with the general population. Not tryna talk shit, you can and will get better if you dont blame the game or others and focus on your own errors.
@Wuba-dn4jv6 күн бұрын
@Ceezy_yt Your window where you play does not count
@FinalityFT6 күн бұрын
Nerf bunny hopping you and everyone says I say screw it just disable jumping as a whole and only just mantle is kept in
@pubplays3686 күн бұрын
Well that’s fucking dumb.
@MRLEGEND101_6 күн бұрын
The aim assist is too strong, and the snipers are still one shot kills. This means quick scoping need no skill. Just aim somewhere around them, ads, and pull trigger... Pathetic. They only need 2 bunny hops degrade the 2nd one. Stop the ability to change directions mid-air. Devs should be embarrassed they exploited your game so fast and bad 🤦♂️
@EdgarLinna4 күн бұрын
que lloron jajajaj mejor juega roblox o minecraft aún así ya nerferaron el bunny jump.. ahora falta los snippier
@aaronchisholm46 күн бұрын
I had an echelon wall hacks the other day, and four, FOUR people all slid and jumped around. It seriously looked so silly stupid. This is an arcade shooter, and movement should be important. But I just cannot get behind all the silly jumping and crouching in every gun fight. I am not a terrible player, but by no means a great player. I really want another game that feels like black ops 2, and this could be it if it wasn’t for all the silly bunny jumping.
@pubplays3686 күн бұрын
You clearly don’t remember the older cod days. Bunny hopping has been a thing since cod 4. Bo2 was the rise of scuffs.
@aaronchisholm46 күн бұрын
@@pubplays368 if I did see it, it was few and far between. Drop shotting, sure, that’s always been around. But I don’t remember any bunny hopping clowns running around.
@xFalconn14 күн бұрын
@@aaronchisholm4difference back then is it didn’t cater to one playstyle with XDefiant if you don’t play with paddles then I wouldn’t bother with the game
@Jamesdodson335 күн бұрын
B hops need to be nerfed into the ground. Super annoying
@mattwells10366 күн бұрын
I unfortunately cannot play it because I'm stuck on PS4, so I can't give a real opinion based on direct experience. But IMO, bunny hopping shouldn't be nerfed any further, I hate seeing movement nerfed into the ground because bad players can't react or aim fast enough to deal with it. As far as the abilities to see others through walls, it seems it's a bit op. Something can be tweaked with that, whether it just gives a snapshot of their location in place and not following, limiting how many people can use it, or at least give something that can completely counter it. Back in the day you could completely stealth yourself in cods, cold blooded kept you off radar and kept you out of kill streaks view, and ninja pro gave you silent feet and kept you off heartbeat sensors. New cods, don't let you become truly stealthy, you'd need more perks from the same slot then you are allowed and it's dumb as hell. It's the same deal here, you need to be able to counter that ability, both of them really. Whether they add a new character with that as a passive ability or come up with something else. I could see that being really annoying if spammed. Personally killcams would be a good addition as well, ok it doesn't need to be cod, but seeing how you were killed can be important for others figuring out angles and other things, both a counter to those abilities and killcams can also potentially expose any cheaters, but will also undoubtedly let plenty of baseless accusations fly as well. Lol the biggest thing they could change for me is releasing it on PS4, but I guess it'd be too low quality or something. I'd still take a 60fps low graphics version... I'll bet it's the xbox one that didn't perform well enough, based on my experience on several games, it's clearly not as capable as a PS4
@user-kq2du7pd5l6 күн бұрын
Brokie opinion, didn't read.
@pubplays3686 күн бұрын
@@user-kq2du7pd5lunless you’re a millionaire you’re broke too. Skill issue.
@mattwells10366 күн бұрын
@@user-kq2du7pd5l "didn't read" but felt the need to reply. Lol I'll bet watching my gameplay from anything would make you jealous lol.
@mattwells10366 күн бұрын
@@pubplays368 thanks lol
@user-kq2du7pd5l5 күн бұрын
@@pubplays368 ps5s aren't even expensive, get your bread up. Nobody's playing last gen anymore, let us move on...
@gothmilkers7 күн бұрын
Yh man slow the game down even more already feels like mw2 campy and boring
@frederickparsons75717 күн бұрын
Making it so you have to focus more on your actual gun skills and not spamming a mechanic isn’t slowing the game down. Use some strategy and get better
@ChamaUFC3007 күн бұрын
You sound like a bozo😭
@asdfghjkl22617 күн бұрын
@@frederickparsons7571 Maybe if you focused on your gun skill and used some strategy you wouldn't be complaining about jumping.
@gothmilkers6 күн бұрын
@@frederickparsons7571 couch gaming grandads like you killed fps and made it boring camp fest , dont act like your someone because you get 2 kills a game with no movement 👍
@Seth41926 күн бұрын
@@frederickparsons7571your the one with a skill issue 🤡
@DeadFishFactory6 күн бұрын
The biggest problem is the netcode when someone is bouncing around. You can be tracking them and your shots don't register for whatever reason, or you just get client-side hitmarkers but you're doing no damage.
@xFalconn14 күн бұрын
Realistically this is it, this is why bhopping is so OP but you gotta understand mate there NEVER going to need bhopping either get a controller w paddles or stop playing the game because the netcode is NEVER going to get better 😊
@EdgarLinna4 күн бұрын
que tristeza el los saltos si fueron negreado a este juego ya no es divertido ): aún shooter en primera persona sin buenos saltos para mi no es un buen shooter…. las personas lloran mucho por no saber jugar contra esa habilidad o por no saber cómo jugar bien.
@kingvelasquez15796 күн бұрын
They have improved the netcode since launch already with a couple patches. I feel if you still complaining about something at this point its a skill issue and just go back to cod. I really dont understand when the devs are listentand fixing in real time.
@TheHollowBlade6 күн бұрын
Dont defend the netcode.. its better than launch sure, but its still one of the worst netcodes from a big fps game on the market. Think what you will, it is THE complaint that everyone wants fixed. if they cant get it fixed before season 4 this game will be very likely dead in the water.
@Cookingclover4206 күн бұрын
I swear this game looks like it could be played on a ps3. They should've just put all hands on deck with the net code i dropped it mostly because of that but i also realized XDefiant is just another generic arcade champion shooter it brings nothing new i haven't seen before in other games.
@asdfghjkl22617 күн бұрын
These exact same complaints about jumping have been voiced in every Call of Duty subreddit for the past 5 years. These posts are always insanely popular and upvoted to the moon. Bear in mind, COD is slower than this game, and people *STILL* complain nonstop about it. Moving the sway penalty to third jump won't do anything. Against a good player, you're dead after the first or second jump. The people complaining the loudest just think they deserve to be better at the game than they are, and they can't accept that the other person is better than them. "He shouldn't have killed me. He's abusing cheap tactics. He's playing dishonorably. He takes this game too seriously! He has no life! It's not fun to play like that." Those are all just excuses for why you died. With all that said, I'm not opposed to something like stronger jump fatigue or greater mid-air inertia (though I very much hate the random sway penalty). I just need to get it off my chest that nothing they can do short of removing the ability to jump entirely will make these complaints cease.
@Sabanno2 күн бұрын
Keep on nerving untill its to boring to play, better to fix the Netcode and see how the hit detection change the way thw game feels and plays. People never learn from older games and issues. This is how COD has become shit by nerving eveything.
@sammee3377 күн бұрын
when i hear someone calling out skill issue , man i feel sorry for him , i imagine hes the guy who hasnt achieved anything in life and comes in here ( on the net) and use the skill issue phrase. to make him feel good 🤣🤣🤣🤣🦍🦍🐒🐒
@asdfghjkl22617 күн бұрын
what have you achieved in life?
@Ceezy_yt7 күн бұрын
you literally just suck, sounds like a skill issue to me
@sammee3377 күн бұрын
@@asdfghjkl2261 a comment from a clown seeking attention on you tube comment section. get a life bro.....
@ericfoote11316 күн бұрын
They can't hop away from my mp7 lol
@protoman22606 күн бұрын
From what I know of XD I like the game that it exists , but I can't stand the long TTK. Guns that take more than 3-5 shots to kill should be the standard and from what I know XD takes WAY longer so while no SBMM is amazing , it's a pass for me
@acidspaz42525 күн бұрын
No they don't. It's a skill gap.
@xFalconn14 күн бұрын
lol it’s really not a skill gap it’s just a difference between players who play with paddles and players who don’t
@acidspaz42524 күн бұрын
@@xFalconn1 I play without paddles... I'm the biggest advocate against aim assist...
@xFalconn14 күн бұрын
@@acidspaz4252 lol well most sweats who abuse bhopping basically all of them play w paddles lol
@acidspaz42524 күн бұрын
@@xFalconn1 without aim assist none of that would work...
@davidponder16546 күн бұрын
They already nerfed it😂 spam jumping doesnt really happen anymore, just git gud at this point fr. Now the spiderbot can get fucked, its a target seeking garunteed kill. Cant fuckin see nothing until you die. A least with a flash you can kinda see after the initial flash
@TheHollowBlade6 күн бұрын
Agree, i was on the boat to nerf the jump spaming, but i think the nerf oddly enough did it for the most part.99% of people i have fought only jump mostly once.
@Jon.E.A.6 күн бұрын
Noooo.. they need not!🤨
@David131257 күн бұрын
I hate the B hoping takes no skill to do either
@Ceezy_yt7 күн бұрын
haha, the movement tech ik takes skill and makes it super fun, stop trying to make eveery single game boring
@Ceezy_yt7 күн бұрын
cuz with what yall be wanting, yall might as well join the fucking military, you'd get everything you asked for, and the real realism you beg of
@ChamaUFC3007 күн бұрын
If it wasn’t skill you would do it back and not complain 😭
@syroupcast68256 күн бұрын
Its not skill, literally the people use controllers with aditional buttons. If you have a normal controller good luck changing your finguer between jump and aim jostyck
@ChamaUFC3006 күн бұрын
@@syroupcast6825 don’t even need that just remap the buttons poptart i can tell you just not good because you can just jump yourself instead of yapping to me jumping and maintaining aim and also timing the jumps
@tsyuko70986 күн бұрын
No SBMM, input based MM and movement are 3 things making this game great and tons of fun. Its good as it is.
@kingchiles43287 күн бұрын
For me, the M16 is the worst gun in the game. It's just a frustrating experience playing with that weapon.
@PSNmemoryismisery7 күн бұрын
bunny hopping is complete garbage. these games have catered to the "movement" crowd and it's no longer about gun skill, but "breaking cameras" and spastic movement. It's an annoying trend in modern FPS games.
@asdfghjkl22617 күн бұрын
The way I parse comments like yours is, "it's only because of your JUMPING CRUTCH that you're beating me!!!!11 if it weren't for your BROKEN JUMPS, my superior gun skill would have killed you!!!" Uh-huh. Sure thing, big guy.
@DelbertStinkfester6 күн бұрын
I'm done with this efing game
@black8thelement80086 күн бұрын
That fight is over before the 1st jump ... majority of my engagements i have the llife lead. I shot him more times then he jumps then im dead. Or they jump immediately granted i-frames and im one shot by a smg or pistol. One shot? sure whatever man gg It b.s... i got my ads faster and he panics and starts hopping around like Bucky O'hare. Its looks so smoothed brain its the most remedial thing to see or do in a gunfight. Even the goofy jump around the corners like ' ahhhhhh gotcha" ....because im this big red mike & ike and thier team has walls im mean intel suit. Stick to traditional boots on the ground, oblective based gameplay let the kids jump in COD. Im the type of player that will give the "thumbs up" if its a legit clean kill im not a hater i respect good gameplay.
@losdiablodelnacho6 күн бұрын
People need to stop whining over core game mechanics. Bunny hopping is part of the core gameplay. You guys need to play Enlisted or Isonzo if you want boots on the ground cheeks.
@thomasj10266 күн бұрын
The devs themselves said it's not an intended action so what are talking about😂
@losdiablodelnacho5 күн бұрын
@@thomasj1026 it is intended, just not to the insane degree people were crutching with
@thomasj10265 күн бұрын
@losdiablodelnacho it's not they said they are fine with jump shot but not bunny hoping. It was not an intended action but I'm only going by what the devs said themselves
@brokenkeyboard2k3266 күн бұрын
Snipers need a real nerf
@davidponder16546 күн бұрын
Idk about that. No flinch resistance is more of a nerf than people realize. Ive had no problem challenging snipers since the last nerf
@EddieHallslittlebrother6 күн бұрын
To the B hopping and spiderbot cry babies I say stop being a bitch about it. Both are very easy to counter. They're annoying sure but people are making way too big of a deal about it. Also almost every fps game has netcode issues. I just got done playing the original Black Ops and I was dying around corners in that game too. There's some minor hit register things they need to fix but it's definitely not in every lobby and most people complaining about it just suck at aiming
@Ceezy_yt7 күн бұрын
they should not nerf movement, if anything they need to add more movement options, if you want a slow game play rainbow 6, val, or mw2, you already have options. If movement in xdefiant is nerfed more i myself and many of my friends will be quitting the game all together, and we spend, so they will be losing money doing this.. And im sure many others will too.
@Dorketix6 күн бұрын
Just needs to be tweaked so people don’t have such a Big Crunch I use it sometimes and it practically makes me invincible but it’s dull and cheesy it’s like playing on easy with no skill needed
@-SlipperyWhenWet-7 күн бұрын
Everyone needs to stop bitching about bunny hopping. It’s part of the game. If you wanna nerf bunny hopping then they should nerf camping
@sirgrizzlypfote63697 күн бұрын
Found the bunny hopper nerd
@asdfghjkl22617 күн бұрын
@@sirgrizzlypfote6369 found the guy who can't shoot straight
@sirgrizzlypfote63697 күн бұрын
@@asdfghjkl2261 nah no offense bro but bhopping is really an issue in xdefiant. Maybe u r on the lucky side of desync but bhopping worses the desync. I guess u abuse it as well and feek like a pro abusing s broken psrt of the game (at this point its cheating) but hey if u feel better this way
@asdfghjkl22617 күн бұрын
@@sirgrizzlypfote6369 You should stop playing video games and watching KZfaq and instead focus on learning how to write English properly.
@user-kq2du7pd5l6 күн бұрын
He says in a run-on sentence 😂
@Seth41926 күн бұрын
Movement is a huge part of the game you can easily kill guys juming around if you can out strafe/ out aim him you guys just arent good tbh