When Carragher and Keane are in agreement like that, it says something.

all us United fans have no explanation anymore, we just sigh and accept it. The club is rotten to the core and full of overpaid flops who do not care about the club and only care about the money. The old days of United are long gone! Only good thing to see last night was the Liverpool fans pay respect to Ronaldo, huge respect for that.

When your greatest rivals don't celebrate with emotion when scoring against you, that's when you know it's really down bad.

"We lost 5 nil to Liverpool at Old Trafford. We lost 4 nil to Liverpool the next time we faced them, AT ANFIELD. Thats a 20% improvement on our defensive game and that shows we're on the right track to getting back to the top again" - Harry Maguire (Probably)

"de Gea is helpless, watching the hopeless..." Gary Neville during commentary, being brutally honest.

Jose Mourinho was right when he said getting 2nd place in 2017-18 with that United team is one of his finest achievements.

jose mourinho once said that getting second place with this group of players was the biggest achievement of his life now you know how right he was

I genuinely believe if Liverpool really wanted to, these recent head to head games could've been 8-0 wins or something like that. It's got to the point where Klopp has shown pity for the biggest rivals, that's not even fun anymore beating them it's just sad

I’m not sure that Ten Hag is going to be enough, they’re going to need 11, maybe even 12 Hags to catch up with Liverpool

I love how everytime they face man united Liverpool celebrates their goals like Pre season friendlies. They barely run and celebrate they just smile. High 5 and slowly walk back to the other half . It's almost like " We're not that low to actually celebrate that"

Us Liverpool fans hated him & Keane as players, but as pundits, I'm always in awe of how they don't mince their words because they love their former club and are proud to have worn the jersey. Both deserves a lot of respect especially for holding people accountable.

4:34 Gary’s reaction is the best thing he’s ever done

Guys, I don’t think it’s the managers fault anymore….

As a Liverpool fan I’m realising that even some of our crappest banter teams down the years were never this easy to beat. Man Utd home and away this season have been our 2 easiest games this season. Even Norwich came to Anfield and made it harder than Man Utd did.

Jose was the best manager they could have had but people like Gary drove him away saying he made the place toxic. He only said things that now after 4 years all of us are seeing was true

Neville’s point is redundant. Have they spent enough money or not? Clearly the answer to that question is yes. So the issue is recruitment. Souness is spot on

Having followed Liverpool since 91' I waited and waited while United won everything while we were miles away. I thought I'd love hammering United but it's sort of....sad, they aren't just bad, they are rotten.

Gary is absolutely spot on here. All these grand introductions of signings is the club saying the player is bigger than the manager already. We need to get back to the manager being the HEAD of the club and players want to play for the manager. Too much player power at United.

Neville can't talk with much authority. He over hypes Ole's achievements, under rates Mourhino's achievements and acts like Ole didn't leave club that was annihilated by Liverpool, City, Watford and was shipping goals charitably.

Can managers turn things around ? Sure they can. Take Klopp at Liverpool, Jose and Carlo at Madrid. But like Keane said in an interview, " coaching is a delight when you have the right players. But if you have rotten players it's the worst place you can be " and these players are rotten as hell. Maguires statement proves it " well if I'm not a good player why am I starting every game " cos the rest are worst than you dummy. They should have backed Jose, given these players a kick on their back side.

People keep saying that Manchester United are going through the same phase Liverpool were when they were finishing mid table. That's just wrong, Liverpool at that time never had as much talent as Manchester United does now nor the spending power. Liverpool lacked depth in every position and struggled with high profile departures. Yet each Liverpool player played with heart and passion even though their performances were below par and that's the major difference.

Gary didn’t have this much to say when his pal was in charge

“Graeme, Graeme, Graeme.. seriously” We all felt that Gary, thank you.

I really like Mane as a number 9, and he seems to have found his confidence lately, his passing and link up play when he drops deep is actually really good and he looks comfortable there

Gary is spot on ..they are undermining managers and it's not just United .

@3:11 I like it how Gary immediately stops speaking when Keane starts his talk. Captain speaks

I thought they were worse in the 2019/20 season. However, they've spent quite a lot of money since. The Amad Diallo deal is mind-boggling. 17m up front, which could double if he actually makes it, and he can't get in the Rangers side.

We failed to see Mourinho’s warnings back then and now we’re reaping the rewards. We always shielded the players blaming the managers but now it’s clearly evident who’s at fault. If the new manager comes in and tries to manage these guys, he’ll be seeing the exit door faster than he thinks. It’s truly shambolic and depressing what’s happening to this team. I don’t even expect anything anymore from this team and yet they still disappoint me.

Just imagine the scenes for whoever loses in the Arsenal Vs United game. They will be crowned Banter FC.

It's always been about recruitment, Grahame is right and I have been saying this for years. Utd's recruitment has been poor compared to their closest competitors. That has always been the main problem and it began while Fergie was in charge.

I have nothing against Harry Maguire! but I’ve never been more grateful to have Henderson as our captain, he deserves more appreciation right now!! Could not have a captain that calls hand ball on their team mate tho 🤣🤣 bless him

Remember when the pundits parroted the nonsense that Thiago slows Liverpool down or that Klopp's methods bring injuries? Liverpool have never looked fitter and Thiago has never looked better.

Coming second last year was a total fluke. Liverpool have two more points now, with six games to go, than United had at the end of last season. Qualifying for the Champions League might have been the worst thing that could happen, because it allowed the Glazers to do nothing and encouraged waste of space "superstars" to stay.

Liverpool went through the same thing. Just like Liverpool finishing 2nd in 2008-09 and in 2013-14 they were still far from Prem-league-champion material. Utd finishing 2nd meant little in the end; the improvement wasn't lasting. When Liverpool finished 2nd in 2008-09 the ensuing final positions were 7, 6, 8, 7, then 2nd, followed by 6, 8, then 4, 4 and 2 and then 1st. There is too much competition for quick fixes. Liverpool thought the title was waiting for them, every season since 1989-90, but it wasn't. You have to earn it and that often means scraping into the top 4 for a few seasons. We the fans expect too much. The old Utd is long gone so blasting your own team will make things worse. Accept your team as they are and give them time. Don't expect big-money buys all the time because that will not solve the problem, it will make it last longer and expectation will put undue pressure on your team. We Liverpool fans took some 20 years to realise that _this season will be our season_ was laughable to all non-Liverpool fans. And to Ronaldo, YNWA.

Been a Utd fan for over 50 yrs & have never ever seen my team play so badly. Hope we get it right with the new gaffer🙏

United have now conceded more goals than Burnley this season. Let that sink in.

He was hurt you could hear during the match calling Man United a "waste of space".

What gary said was on point.. they focus on great introduction players.. but in the end the managers cant even use them.. it’s pointless and waste of money.. its like buying 1000 dollars boots but you cant even play football.. it doesnt make you any better… they changed couple of managers over the course of few seasons.. it were all going back to square one.. they keep this up.. its gonna rot the club.. its just getting worse and worse.. what they can do is (if the owner have guts to do it) pick one world class manager.. and let him build his squad.. like liverpool.. players aside.. klopp been building his team for pass few season.. and look at them now.. one of the best team in the world.. from top four club.. to champions club.. all the trophies.. they could bag them all the way the team is playing now.. and they spend less than man city and still plays a great football everytime.. it sucks how i love man u deep in the bottom of my heart.. its painful to watch every game and yet i watch it anyway.. just to see a slight magic or miracles that can happen.. it feels good watching winning games.. but apparently man U is just too broken.. and broke our heart and faith in the club.. its so sad.. so damn sad..

Liverpool have made improvements through the years from disasters to Winners, Klopp has improved Liverpool and improvements gained👏

Gary’s reaction to Souness 😭😭😭

Ten Hag is gonna absolutely tank his reputation by going to United. Theres no glory to be won there, only disappointment. Hell, United may be the bigger franchise, but Ajax is currently the bigger team. If it were up to me i'd have Ten Hag stay at Ajax, be almost guarenteed to win trophies and play CL, and eventually a better club than United will come knocking on the door.

Honestly i feel like i should feel at least a bit sorry seeing UTD down this bad, but i’m absolutely loving every second of it. Long may it continue, hopefully my kids will one day be able to enjoy it alongside me

I'm a lifelong Chelsea fan but the state of Man United is quite upsetting at the moment. We had some great matches against them over the years and its sad to know those times seem to have gone. I don't know how this will be fixed, a complete overhaul?!

Souness sticking up the glazers…shock! If I was a Liverpool fan I’d be saying they’re the best owners ever as well 😂😭

Real talk. So refreshing.

when Gary said about managers being the central figure at the club it is one of the principles of management in football which utd under saf showed to the whole world what difference a manager can make if you give him the appropriate authority. It is one of the things which were learned by other clubs taking utd as an example and ironically enough utd have abandoned their own principle.

interesting what Gary said about Old Trafford and the training ground, I went to both in the early-mid 90s my dad was a man united fan, both were by far the best in England, Old Trafford was better than Wembley which okay was falling down, but nowhere else was even close in terms of facilities, they set the standard for everyone else. By the sounds of it the Glazers just stopped when they took up the reigns and all the other clubs have caught up and passed them by, seems like a metaphor for the football too. Before Klopp Liverpool's recruitment was similar, people forget they spent loads but didn't get anywhere. It's the culture at man united if you are there you will be paid more and that's about it, there is no hunger to do the hard stuff for success. They should introduce a cap-like man city did with their recruitment of players and get ones that actually want to play and win as opposed to those that are just there for the inflated salary.

Why is no one talking about man Uniteds improvement, at home they lost 5-0 away at Anfield they lost only 4-0. That is progress

I have much respect for Neville as a Liverpool fan, you can definitely tell how much it pains him.

Gary is full of wisdom and managerial acumen - it’s a good job he put it to good use at Valencia

I can relate where these legends are coming from......it's different when to play with determination and lose(acceptable).....no determination,no passion, they need hungry players not players who feel they've achieved all

Gary is FINALLY admitting that the players are to blame, i.e. they have been abandoning manager after manager when the going gets tough. As a Liverpool fan, this pattern of behaviour is a disgrace.

Here in the Dutch Papers we are also saying that ten Hag is making a mistake. He should stay at Ajax until Pep leaves to take over Man City. We all know he is doomed to fail at Man united.

The problem is simple, the care for the club is missing, the passion to play for an United jersey and give it your all is missing. Thats it. No matter how big or great you are, if you have no passion for the place you work for, you can't bring your best.

Gary Neville spot on and more passion in his big toe for Man Utd than any player there right now. I am not a Man United supporter, but like his passion for his former club.

Liverpool fan since the 70s and I can safely say I've never seen a United team like that. Even when we were winning leagues and European Cups back then, they always gave us a game, famously spoiling our treble hopes in '77 when they beat us in the FA Cup final. In the 80s, when we we were really on top we always knew the United fixtures would be tough, the biggest margin of victory was 2 goals and that happened ONCE in the entire decade. I mean, I love beating this lot but to see a team collapse like this is sad. No self respect.

Rashford's eyes and body language during the match says all you need to know about Man U's mentality going into these games and the team feeling on the pitch.

I think the most important factor for the terrible performance is the injury to the HARDWORKING PLAYERS like fred, mcctominay, cavani. These players usual game is to delegate their defensive duty to these players, and then participate only when it is not too much of trouble. Their absence has exposed the real work rate of all of them. I don’t think the defence is the problem either. It seems that way because the 6 upfront never does their job, and it is much more difficult to play a 4 vs 10 in a big pitch. Usually it is 6 v 10 when mc-fred plays. Logically, manager tried to add one more defensive player to station back, but that didn’t work. The way forward is to play those players who show some spirit. - telles mcguire lindelof dalot Matic - 2 academy players who can throw themselves to the ground ( for mcfred) Elanga bruno/mata sancho

Gary wanted to cry when he said Bruno is a good player

Lingard at west ham was pure class then he went back to utd and dosent get in the first team says it all...

It's absolutely true, frlorget the structure on top in even managers, you need to have character, mentality!

Fernandes, Maguire & co: Play for 90 minutes and show no hunger, desire and fighting spirit. Hannibal: Plays for 5 minutes and earns the respect of a lot of United fans by showing what the senior boys couldn’t.

I said about 4-5 years ago that if Liverpool sort their defense out and continue to play they way they are, then there is no reason they cant become one of the best clubs in the world and win both Prem/UCL, also said that I'd much rather Milner in Utd than Pogba at the same time and got ridiculed. Who's laughing now ey

Gary Neville… honestly he talks more facts than a non fiction book

From 0-5 at Old Trafford to 0-4 at Anfield, a definite improvement.

Am an arsenal fan ,but garry nevile is absolutely right, the ayers have been elevated so much when they haven't done anything so far to achieve that..there was no desire ,no fighting spirit in their game yesterday.

When De Gea was bigging up the "massive win" at the weekend when they beat bottom club Norwich, a game in which he conceded 2 goals did he really think they were going to get something at Anfield ?

This is as a Liverpool fan is incredible to experience

I am a newcastle fan and what gary says about the glazers hits me hard because Mike Ashley destroyed my club he made so many bad decisions and it shows now how bad Ashley was because the new owners have come in and not done that much yet all they have done is bought one manager in and a few players but my team looks like a brand new team. Glazers need to sell up and you need to put in proper footballing people in there and you'll see a big diffrence straight away.. but saying all that united tonight were an embarsement the thing I could not belive is none of the United players kicked anyone. I remember during the game when Liverpool players were getting on the ball I was expecting a bad challenge but nothing Liverpool were allowed to do what they wanted

Just look at the 2 new recruits from MU and Liverpool, then you know what's wrong with the club's recruitment team. Liverpool bought Diogo Jota and Luis Diaz, both slot into the team with ease. MU bought Donny Van De Beek and Jardon Sancho, and both did not play much as their manager yet to figure out how to utilize them. Some more MU both combine cost 30mils more than Jota and Diaz combine cost.

As a Liverpool fan watching Graeme Souness talking about poor recruitment, there is certainly an irony there Edit: just remembered Ali Dia too, lol I was just thinking about his liverpool track record but he got worse!

on behalf of all liverpool fc fans, we would like to thank manchester united for the easiest game of the season. After those tough man city-benfica-man city games, boy did we needed this game.

9-0 over two games, and we went easy on them in both games. What a time to be alive!

This is just a moment in time. Liverpool were way off United for years. This is just how it goes.

I was over the moon seeing Manchester United get treated like U16’s last night. Absolutely loved it

So bored listening to the problems at united but I hope it continues

Is there a copy of the full discussion? I can’t find one.

City, Barca, Madrid, Liverpool, Chelesa etc they have all have a percentage of home grown talent .. there is a core of players that are truly representing their club. At Utd, there isn't that group with a vested interest. Not broken but disconnected from the club. These home grown players would get round an underperforming star and make him understand that more is expected.

He broke them even more by keeping his mate "Oleh" in a job for so long. Mr "Mourinho was a world class manager, that didnt work, Van Gaal was a world class manager, that didn't work". There's a reason why he failed so badly at Valencia

Souness wants to check the United stock price. It isn't "through the roof". It's the same as what it was when they were first issued years ago. Which in real terms mean that the value of the club from a stock perspective has fallen! Shocking asset management.

Gary's point about the club elevating the player above the manager is very interesting and is worth noting. He is right, the manager should be the boss and the club should absolutely be behind the manager. Players who underperform should be sold.

As a Liverpool supporter I never thought I'd find my self agreeing with Gary but he is correct they boosted the player above the manager at Liverpool nobody is above Jurgan Klopp.

There seems to be no plan behind the players United recruit whereas Liverpool and City look at the whole package such as their character and how they'd fit in etc. Man Utd's defence is also shambolic and can't play out from the back.

Gary was a thread away from shedding tears 😢

Neville said "no, Graham let me finish" and then just repeated the same thing again. Definitely had been practising that line

I've got to agree with Graham over Gary about the Glazer's. They've thrown plenty of money at the squad. Their mistake is trusting the wrong people to run the club. For me if we'd stuck with Moyes we'd be a good as we've ever been now.

Not a United fan but I would’ve thought that it’s not the fact they lost, but the way they lost. Never seen a team lack any ounce of pride and determination like this

I feel like Gary is a superstar at these sort of interviews haha, I swear every time I hear him talk its exactly the same ahaha

Want the full thing out here!!!! Wanna watch the whole interview

So true jamie omg it doesn't matter the structure or manager the players cant play

Gary has obviously forgotten 1989-90 where United finished 13th. The year before they finished 11th and the year after they finished 6th (Crystal Palace finished 3rd). All of these were under Sir Alex Ferguson.

When Ferguson retired, the once-mighty man utd team also retired with him. Managers then-after, have tried to revive it, resuscitate it to life, jolt it into action but to no avail. The glory of the past has definitely deserted it, only a messiah like new club owners and then a saint in the mould of Klopp can return this club to salvation. For the time being, pray.

I completely gave up years ago back when fellaini was being played as a CF. And this team still somehow disappoints me

Nail on the head Garry! totally undermines the manager and giving the players such godlike status can only ever be bad

As Man united fan from India, staying up till half past two even though it was hurtful watching the entire processing . From thousand of KMS away would like to see some kind of passion from players. GN at 6.43 sums up everything.

As a Liverpool fan, just bury me in this era forever ❤️

If Liverpool could come back this strongly in just a few seasons from a side that were consistently finishing 7th/8th and not even playing in Europe, then Manchester United can do the same under Ten Hag/Rangnick (and even quicker, because they’re vastly wealthier). Rangnick has stated, with sincerity, that as many as 10 players could come in over the summer. Being a new look United in all areas behind the scenes, this could well actually happen. A sort of Chelsea 03/04 scenario - absolutely no where near the other biggest & best teams in the league, to being one of them.

Still makes me chuckle how so many of the ex United pundits thought United was on the rise again when they finished second and United fans was saying Liverpool was just a flash in the pan and they are just making excuses when we had half of our core squad injured that season. This season very few injuries and we are challenging for the quadruple. Oh I do wonder how humble pie tastes.

United are currently 22 points behind Liverpool and are on course to finish over 30 odd points behind Liverpool at season end. The Mane pass to Salah was sensational .

i love how jamie is reminiscing how garry and roy would react to this game let alone hunting top four they will play this game to their death just to stop their rival Liverpool win the league. this man utd players don't have that mentality and motivation